LA punk history spews from X co-founder John Doe! INTERVIEW

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Today's Guest: John Doe, singer, X, author, Under the Big Black Sun: A Personal History of L.A. Punk
Order John Doe’s book: amzn.to/1OFTJk7
JOHN DOE podcast excerpt: “X - our music - was always accessible. We weren’t trying to piss people off; we just did it naturally. There was no ‘marketing’; the term barely existed. The way you were DIY in those days was you went out, met people, lived your life, did your thing. I have no regrets; that’s the way you get cancer."
Key interview moments:
• 4:14 After appearing on NPR’s “Fresh Air” with Terry Gross, who described X’s melodies as “being a little off” and that its notes “become flat in unusual places,” X co-founder John Doe shakes off the “backhanded compliment” and explains Exene Cervenka’s approach;
• 20:00 Doe compares the nascent 1970s punk scenes in New York, London, and Los Angeles;
• 37:30 It wasn’t that X didn’t want to be successful and commercial, Doe explains, it’s just the band didn’t fit well in its era the way Nirvana, Pearl Jame and Green Day would later fit in theirs.
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  • @voltaire2001
    @voltaire20014 жыл бұрын

    3:44 John Doe is allowed to talk,you're welcome

  • @ThePwebb

    @ThePwebb

    4 жыл бұрын

    FUUUUUCK. I was about to turn it off because of this faux NPR bullshit announcer

  • @dublinboyo
    @dublinboyo7 жыл бұрын

    First saw X for the first time in 1980 at the Whisky in Hollywood and many, many more times after that. Got to meet John at a book signing/meet and greet/Q&A at the Los Angeles Public Library when his book came out. He is, as I always knew he'd be, one of the nicest and most personable people you'd ever hope to meet. Really a top guy.

  • @robertcraane7910
    @robertcraane79104 жыл бұрын

    X and The Gun Club were my favorites...

  • @Gammarklar

    @Gammarklar

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not enough love for Gun Club out there. Fire of Love and Miami should be in every music lover’s collection

  • @kimisdaman
    @kimisdaman6 жыл бұрын

    "Everyone has their own truth". I've heard a few people say that, and they're all wrong. You can have your own reality, but there's only one truth.

  • @gilwood7530
    @gilwood75306 жыл бұрын

    Exene was particularly "on" that night ! Enough said !!! No one gave me chills like she (and this band) did in 79-80...THEY STILL DO ! How much of a fan was I ? I had an X shaved in the back of my head at 13 or 14 in about 1980. Ahhhh those were the days !

  • @WolfDaddy420

    @WolfDaddy420

    3 жыл бұрын

    Aw man, were you that X-Head kid from The Decline And Fall Of Western Civilization once upon a time?✌🏼

  • @andrewcassey8235
    @andrewcassey82357 жыл бұрын

    John Doe. John EFFING Doe. Wonderful bass player and vocalist. That's all I got.

  • @patriciagullickson9591

    @patriciagullickson9591

    7 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Cassey who is he ?

  • @andrewcassey8235

    @andrewcassey8235

    7 жыл бұрын

    I am he. And I'm not shy; I'll walk right up to you and look you in the eye and tell you who I am. Because I lead an honest life, one that God might approve of, even amidst all of my sins and faults. That said, who may I have the pleasure of having been addressed so adroitly?

  • @koho

    @koho

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's all we need.

  • @rossrreyes
    @rossrreyes6 жыл бұрын

    X is the only Punk band that hasn't become a parody of itself over time. But honestly, X was never solely a punk band. They were always so much more.

  • @joseguerreroneri18

    @joseguerreroneri18

    5 жыл бұрын

    You're absolutely right, it's difficult to categorize music or bands under a specific genre. Nor is there a clear unifying consenus, this varies when and where a person is giving a position on it. Music and sounds overlap all the time.

  • @Wearenotreallyhere
    @Wearenotreallyhere6 жыл бұрын

    X still sounds a punchy, harmonic and fresh today as they did in 1980 when I first heard them here in the UK.

  • @isorokudono

    @isorokudono

    3 жыл бұрын

    Billy Zoom is the White Chuck Berry.

  • @Stiglr
    @Stiglr5 жыл бұрын

    When I describe X's vocal harmonies to someone who has no idea of the band I describe them as the sound of "two cats mating on a hot tin roof"... and I mean that in the most reverent complimentary way I can!!!

  • @gregv8690

    @gregv8690

    4 жыл бұрын

    Stiglr Yes, yes.

  • @mickeylosordo4757
    @mickeylosordo47576 жыл бұрын

    I love this because it really illustrates that part of the fanspace-mind that where we think that we own our artists. I love all these guys so much. I tried for years to make a point of seeing X on every trip they made to Boston. I just wanted them to know how much we appreciated them. Here's something: I was listening to Double Nickels for a year before I even knew D. Boon was gone. Learning he was gone made me cry. I mean I had kinda-sorta heard of the Minutemen. Had heard the reference in I Must Not Think Bad Thoughts...knew the tunes If Reagan Played Disco and Party With Me Punker...had heard the strains of Corona once or twice but, they were gone before I had any solid appreciation for how Watt-Boon-Hurley would have changed EVERYTHING if he had been allowed to hang on the scene. Like PJ Harvey says in a very different context: "cruel cruel nature has won again". Reminds me of when my daughter was grooving to Joe Strummer and the Mescaleros' "Streetcore" six months after Joe had passed from this world to the big world beat stage in the sky. I'm from BOSTON! The Bean! The Hub! We had fucking Mission of Burma and the Proletariat. Like Neil Young says: "long may you run" all of you crazy punkers

  • @annnelson3414
    @annnelson34146 жыл бұрын

    I saw X twice as a young adult in the early 80's. I still go back to their songs 30 years later, a very under-appreciated group of musicians and poets. Exene and her collection of bible pamphlets. I wonder if she still has them...

  • @vb6704
    @vb67043 жыл бұрын

    Johns a cool cat, met him at the Casbah in SD as he was walking in to get ready for an X show and he took the time to stop and just say hello

  • @tuskedbeast
    @tuskedbeast7 жыл бұрын

    Having come up in that time and place, nothing makes me feel older than having an interviewer muck through contextual questions to "explain" that time and place.

  • @TheMisterMonkeyman

    @TheMisterMonkeyman

    7 жыл бұрын

    You and me both my friend. Peace.

  • @noelwhitman1788

    @noelwhitman1788

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes.

  • @VisualparanormalChannel
    @VisualparanormalChannel4 жыл бұрын

    John is great! I love the harmony of X it is very identifiable and distinct.

  • @stacyblue1980
    @stacyblue19804 жыл бұрын

    One of our greatest American artists. A treasure. Love always.

  • @BaxterVon
    @BaxterVon7 жыл бұрын

    X always X. Thank Fucking GOD! John and Exene are the real deal. Sooo glad that I got backstage a few times at SLIMS SF

  • @stevemccart9109
    @stevemccart91096 жыл бұрын

    if any band deserves the r&r hall of fame X does

  • @DrRussPhd
    @DrRussPhd6 жыл бұрын

    Was lucky enough to see X back in 1984 in NYC, they had Jason and the Scorchers open for them. Dave Alvin came out for the encore. Was a great show: raw, wild, fast and loud.

  • @kst357
    @kst3573 жыл бұрын

    I've always like John Doe & the band. The interviewer guy should have mentioned that Exene was born in Chicago & was primarily raised in Tallahassee, not St. Pete's. When she left FL she relocated in Santa Monica.

  • @chriscoogan8090
    @chriscoogan80907 жыл бұрын

    X FEAR and the Crowd DEc 1979 at the whiskey agogo 5 buck admission, what a gig!

  • @bestrealestate3831

    @bestrealestate3831

    7 жыл бұрын

    HELL YA!!! Lee Ving was bomb! LOL

  • @nevertrustpower2840

    @nevertrustpower2840

    7 жыл бұрын

    Best Real Estate Hey,all you swilling the cheap shit in back,come down front where I can see ya.

  • @hbombdesign
    @hbombdesign6 жыл бұрын

    Good lord I just adore this man..

  • @tresaprotzman6543
    @tresaprotzman65435 жыл бұрын

    OMG - LOVE!!! Best part is watching you listen to the prelude........ . Love.

  • @dmutant2635
    @dmutant2635 Жыл бұрын

    One of the best bands from SoCal ever!

  • @timloss87
    @timloss87 Жыл бұрын

    I once was up late one night.... I caught the movie Roadside prophet.... Thank you for that movie.

  • @GeorgeOforiAtta
    @GeorgeOforiAtta6 жыл бұрын

    X is great music.

  • @foxtrotthree569
    @foxtrotthree5692 жыл бұрын

    “Marshal Earp! Give me a gun! For God’s sake, let me protect myself”- Tommy behind the deuce AKA John Doe

  • @CORNPOP24
    @CORNPOP24 Жыл бұрын

    I really think White Girl and The Have Nots are the best songs I never heard. I am so grateful for the music and intelligence of X.

  • @ladocudad
    @ladocudad7 жыл бұрын

    Good interview. John Doe is the coolest cat ever. His book was great. I loved the anecdotal format of different people offering their stories and viewpoints.

  • @MsLizChatham
    @MsLizChatham6 жыл бұрын

    I met John too- what a nice guy. I admire him.

  • @endoalley680
    @endoalley680 Жыл бұрын

    Wow. John Doe has held up well over the years. He looks super healthy and he sounds as sharp and astute as ever. Not a feat often pulled off by ex punk rockers.

  • @richardirwin4595
    @richardirwin45957 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate hearing JD talk about his book and the early punk scene in L.A. Knowing, from hearing at least one other interview that Terry Gross did with JD, that she's obviously a fan both of JD's solo music and of X's music, I was skeptical that she'd in any way diss either Exene's singing or X's unique harmonies. You, Mr. Media, imply in this interview that she did. So I listened to the Fresh Air episode to which you refer, and all I heard was deep respect and gratitude on her part toward their music and their place in musical history. Exene, at one point, says that the way they sing together originated in her total lack of singing experience before X; actually, she says it's because she "can't sing." JD and Dave A object vocally to this contention. At no point does Terry Gross denigrate the singing. Obviously, she loves and respects their music.

  • @BobAndelman

    @BobAndelman

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hi Richard. Thanks for taking the time to watch this interview. I did hear Terry Gross a little differently as I recall. I didn't think she was disrespectful, just a little unfamiliar when she made a comment about the band's harmonies.

  • @MrInterestingthings

    @MrInterestingthings

    6 жыл бұрын

    Exenes off key singing was stylistically right. Anyone who knows music history knows that with Schonberg realization other harmonic tools were necessary to speak in now terms.NrwYorkDolls,Nico Siouxsie,Gang of 4 everyintelligent band of the 70s got this. the

  • @christianeflentie1228

    @christianeflentie1228

    3 жыл бұрын

    The book is spot on. And it's follow up. It was an amazing time in LA in the 80's. Early 80's...

  • @christianeflentie1228

    @christianeflentie1228

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good review. Thanks John.

  • @jasonlieberman4606
    @jasonlieberman46062 жыл бұрын

    To change the late 70s LA punk scene, is to define the direction of music to come, is to overturn stale culture, is to change the world. Punk, in spite of so many artists gaining accolades and awards and such, is still criminally underrated as some footnote of angsty losers who never grew up on time... When the reality is that punk is so profoundly influential that all the massive shifts it's made to society are actually just so big that you have to be very attentive to even see it ...much like if a coach bus made a rest stop at dawn in a park, most folks might notice the strange rock formation by the road, and only a minority would actually realize it's a mountain...

  • @stevemccart9109
    @stevemccart91096 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the reply...I always think if I knew what I know now when I was younger , but I wouldn't change a thing. some very fond memoties

  • @bondovwvw
    @bondovwvw7 жыл бұрын

    X Great show last night in santa cruz!

  • @billybobgeo

    @billybobgeo

    7 жыл бұрын

    i was there too! -- really dug the new arrangements and the chill mini-set with dj bonebrake on vibes - cheers!

  • @centralscrutinizer66
    @centralscrutinizer667 жыл бұрын

    Jane Weiland was on a reality show on VH1 where she pretty much spilled the beans back then.

  • @smwrbd

    @smwrbd

    4 жыл бұрын

    ?

  • @daflotsam
    @daflotsam4 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed this immensely.

  • @koho
    @koho4 жыл бұрын

    Check out the YT of X live at the Rock Garden in 2019. Sounds like 1982. Unbelievable.

  • @MrDLOC11
    @MrDLOC117 жыл бұрын

    john is so intelligent and articulate in his point of view, diplomatic and humble as usual... punk rock's nobleman-extrordinaire !!

  • @raymondolsen2332

    @raymondolsen2332

    7 жыл бұрын

    Careful, kid. Don't hurt yerself ...

  • @tuanjim799

    @tuanjim799

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hey Raymond, shut up moron. lol

  • @lastnamefirst4035

    @lastnamefirst4035

    3 жыл бұрын

    Swear people think if a person can put a sentence together they're a genius these days

  • @jcw91371
    @jcw913714 жыл бұрын

    I like John's acting. He was great in Roadhouse and Great Balls of Fire.

  • @donaldreno7370

    @donaldreno7370

    4 жыл бұрын

    He was also great in Pure Country.

  • @gregorygarcia7807
    @gregorygarcia78076 жыл бұрын

    Why did the chicken cross the road? He was safety-pinned to a punk rocker. I like Jane; I spent one of her B-day nights with her, I thought she was nice. John describes our young life quite well.

  • @lastnamefirst4035

    @lastnamefirst4035

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha love the joke

  • @warrenmccune305
    @warrenmccune3054 жыл бұрын

    So many great songs

  • @koho
    @koho4 жыл бұрын

    I carried his base into the basement of a college residence hall for a show end 1979/early 1980, before Los Angeles the album came out. 100 people, maybe.

  • @Totanmix
    @Totanmix3 жыл бұрын

    I must not think bad thoughts is one of the best songs of all time.

  • @Raiderblack
    @Raiderblack6 жыл бұрын

    Seems like a cool guy... his book is really a really good read...

  • @Lance_A
    @Lance_A3 жыл бұрын

    If he would ever do a signing on IG live of his book I would buy that shit in a heart beat

  • @jackiebarrett4063
    @jackiebarrett4063 Жыл бұрын

    John is smart AND hot! 🔥❤️‍🔥🔥

  • @wf1g
    @wf1g Жыл бұрын

    Dear John. I'm giving up cuz the host just rattles on too for long. I love X and worked for them on the '83 US tour. John and I are probobly the only 2 people related to the band who are massive USWNT fans...Oh Wait..He's stopped and John is speaking.

  • @jamuscito6977
    @jamuscito69776 жыл бұрын

    ...H/C musically dumbed Punk DOWN..."Thrash" & "Cross-Over" were fine for Metal-Heds...but the 1st generation punk bands seemed to have a separate mission... Sum have said, and rightfully so, that punk was ACTUALLY a revival of POP music... the emphasis on SINGLES...a RETURN to small-labels...SHORT songs..etc...but the ORIGINAL sceneS were far more INTERESTING for MY moo-la...NYC had the Voidoids, Television, Suicide ...L.A. & HollyWEIRD had the Screamers, Geza X, Black-Randy, & X...between '77 and '79, a MERE TWO YEARS, all sorts of UNIQUE IDEAS had manifested from the initial movement...the UK SCENE had Dexy's Midnight Runners...Madness & the Specials...Essential Logic, Soft Boys and the Homosexuals... Personally Eye PREFER UNIQUEness to UNIFORMITY!

  • @GuitarlosCarlos
    @GuitarlosCarlos3 жыл бұрын

    HEY JOHN

  • @walt1999walt
    @walt1999walt Жыл бұрын

    John looks like Val Kilmer.

  • @nicecutie
    @nicecutie3 жыл бұрын

    the guy from the movie roadhouse

  • @jeremypardon9553
    @jeremypardon95535 жыл бұрын

    X is the fucking shit

  • @ddave7026
    @ddave70263 жыл бұрын

    What happened in San Antonio?

  • @stevemccart9109
    @stevemccart91097 жыл бұрын

    I was 21 in 77 and the new music and look and feeling was so new and fun and I think im stuck in a time warp .it seems like yesterday. the mask, starwood, madam wongs .cuckoos nest

  • @omfug7148

    @omfug7148

    6 жыл бұрын

    same here--21 in '77 hung out at the Masque knew most of these people and still talk to some of them on facebook I feel lucky that I was there

  • @drmarshall19
    @drmarshall195 жыл бұрын

    So the take away is that Christine has no respect for the medical profession. Is that correct?

  • @stephendunn446
    @stephendunn4463 жыл бұрын

    Punk-a-billy.

  • @rcstafford1
    @rcstafford16 жыл бұрын

    wow, exene was from st. petersburg, FL, never knew, haha.....f

  • @omfug7148

    @omfug7148

    6 жыл бұрын

    I knew her, not a pleasant person and pure Florida I assure you, LOL

  • @rcstafford1

    @rcstafford1

    6 жыл бұрын

    met john and exene before a concert here in houston a few years back. they stopped and talked with me and my wife and were very sociable. btw, i'm from florida. don't judge all of us the same.....f

  • @omfug7148

    @omfug7148

    6 жыл бұрын

    yeah well I knew them when we were all 20-21 years old, saw their first gig (it was at a party in someone's living room) she was a bitch then, and a political crackpot now, but hey, I am a chick, she was always nice to guys, LOL I would hope that she has matured and mellowed in 40 years.

  • @ianfindly3257
    @ianfindly32577 жыл бұрын

    Well The Doors DO sound pretty DATED actually!

  • @gregv8690

    @gregv8690

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ian Findly how do you mean that?

  • @ianfindly3257

    @ianfindly3257

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gregv8690 I mean the old RECORDINGS sound very mid 60s. Nothing really WRONG with THAT anyway though.

  • @dirkbag22
    @dirkbag224 жыл бұрын

    Good lord the long winded host is just unlistenable. I give up.

  • @CountBrass
    @CountBrass7 жыл бұрын

    He seems rather bitter about hardocre, which somewhat surprises me. The first generation -- i.e. before the racists and the skinheads got into it -- was the ultimate DIY scene, and I would have thought he would have appreciated that more. It's a small quibble. X is one of my favorite bands of all time.

  • @JustAFocus
    @JustAFocus3 жыл бұрын

    Argh...You can just see the internal cringe going on in John's head as he listens to this interviewer. It's not really obvious, but it's there. Hard to sit through.

  • @MrYatesj1
    @MrYatesj13 жыл бұрын

    DUDE, get on with the interview. I would have turned you off unless I really wanted to hear the interview.... IF IT EVER Happens!!

  • @caraceleste6904
    @caraceleste69047 жыл бұрын

    worst and most tense interviewer ever holy hell I think he's going to pee his pants oh my God

  • @Wearenotreallyhere
    @Wearenotreallyhere6 жыл бұрын

    Sex Pistols, The Clash and........Madness??? Madness?!! Really?!

  • @urdad9853
    @urdad98533 жыл бұрын

    the interviewer talks too much.....

  • @cheapguitar1
    @cheapguitar17 жыл бұрын

    Worst. Interviewer. Ever. You make John Doe sit and stare into his computer while you read bullshit for 3 minutes. Ugh. Have more respect for your guests. Have more respect for your audience. This is why editing was invented.

  • @gjh400
    @gjh4007 жыл бұрын

    Worst interview ever.

  • @vajonno
    @vajonno6 жыл бұрын

    I can't listen to this guy Andelman...I'm out....much better interviewing / showcasing elsewhere...

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