L'investiture de Thomas Becket en 1162

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  • @CJKpi
    @CJKpi14 жыл бұрын

    Saint Thomas Becket, pray for us!

  • @joefranks4235
    @joefranks42352 жыл бұрын

    I was to the church many years ago where his shrine once stood until Henry VIII destroyed it. Now there is only a simple candle that marks the spot. Henry VIII destroyed so many ancient manuscripts regarding the Catholic Church in England. We will never know the complete history of the church in England because of this evil king.

  • @Blindjager

    @Blindjager

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean didn't the catholic church go a little too far

  • @michellep1210

    @michellep1210

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, Christ's Catholic Church didn't go too far. Henry had been so much a faithful Catholic, that the Pope himself labeled Henry "Defender of the Faith." Just a few short years later, Henry turned on the Church and his fellow Catholics just because the Pope said (and rightly so) that Henry's marriage to Catherine was indeed valid. Thousands upon thousands of Catholics were arrested, tortured, and slaughtered for 300 years.

  • @evanhignite1028

    @evanhignite1028

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very true and well said.

  • @oolooo

    @oolooo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Coming from a nation who is the enemy of Englnd , I pray that they may turn to Christ again and rid themselves of the stain of the evil , illegitimate kings .

  • @frazer3191

    @frazer3191

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks be to God for Henry VIII for bringing us closer to Jesus Christ and further away from the papal pagans in Rome. As close to an Antichrist church as can be. superstition and idolatrous worship. Held together by dogma. Christ is risen Alleluia

  • @PInk77W1
    @PInk77W13 жыл бұрын

    St. John Fisher • pray for us St. Thomas More • pray for us St. Thomas Becket • pray for us

  • @gerardjagroo

    @gerardjagroo

    2 жыл бұрын

    The current Catholic church: Pay for Us!

  • @brysonstevens1431

    @brysonstevens1431

    2 жыл бұрын

    All of the English Jesuit Martyrs, ora pro nobis.

  • @PInk77W1

    @PInk77W1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brysonstevens1431 amen

  • @junesilvermanb2979

    @junesilvermanb2979

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brysonstevens1431 May they intercede on our behalf...

  • @calasalos

    @calasalos

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brysonstevens1431 *plural is "orate pro nobis"

  • @tnecklover
    @tnecklover5 жыл бұрын

    All a set, the costumes and people real and no CGI. The way films were at one time!

  • @teresafredericks5734

    @teresafredericks5734

    2 жыл бұрын

    What is CGI? Thank you

  • @tnecklover

    @tnecklover

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@teresafredericks5734 Computer Generated Images!

  • @anacletwilliams8315

    @anacletwilliams8315

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tnecklover Thank you.

  • @tnecklover

    @tnecklover

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@anacletwilliams8315 No problem!

  • @redmi9834

    @redmi9834

    3 ай бұрын

    You should see some of the Chinese and Korean period costume series. They are fantastic. Plus beautiful women and drop dead gorgeous men.

  • @TomorrowWeLive
    @TomorrowWeLive4 жыл бұрын

    Richard Burton chants so beautifully.

  • @jimslancio

    @jimslancio

    3 жыл бұрын

    The commentary track by the composer, Laurence Rosenthal, describes how he taught Burton to chant. I think it's available on KZread.

  • @corfan99
    @corfan99 Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful sequence. The beauty and reverence of the Traditional Catholic rituals. Richard Burton's voice at the Episcopal benediction [ 3:21 ] is so fittingly majestic, beautiful, I love replaying this portion (actually this entire sequence), just to hear the vocal reverence of the ceremony. Thank you for uploading this.

  • @vmariusmanoj600
    @vmariusmanoj6004 жыл бұрын

    Bring our catholic traditions back again

  • @danielwmwolf

    @danielwmwolf

    2 жыл бұрын

    What for. This bullshite goes on for to long. Get rid of this clowns and bring to justice this child molesters. What a disgusting bunch.

  • @Yaqubsalama

    @Yaqubsalama

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@danielwmwolf your uncle molested you???

  • @redmi9834

    @redmi9834

    3 ай бұрын

    Only people power will do that but those in control have the advantage of demanding obedience 2:21 from their followers. Obstinate refusal gets you excommunicated and you end up like the Palmerian church.

  • @steelers6titles
    @steelers6titles3 жыл бұрын

    Becket had been a top administrator in Henry's government before taking holy orders and rising quickly in the Church. He had not led a cloistered, monastic life. Henry thought he could wield influence over his close friend, but Becket answered to an even higher authority.

  • @sammcpeak6854

    @sammcpeak6854

    2 жыл бұрын

    Upon his exile he did live a cloistered life for a number of years with the Cistercians

  • @steelers6titles

    @steelers6titles

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sammcpeak6854 Correct; Becket was appointed chancellor to Henry II in 1155. He was installed Archbishop of Canterbury in 1162, but two years later was exiled to France, where he lived a monastic life at Pontigny and Sens. He was still Archbishop, however. His contempt regarding Henry's rule had put a price on his head. He had ecclesiastical duties to fulfill. He was murdered in Canterbury Cathedral December 29, 1170.

  • @SomeBody-rm6hf

    @SomeBody-rm6hf

    Жыл бұрын

    He also wasn't a Saxon as portrayed in the movie. He was Norman.

  • @cunjoz
    @cunjoz13 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful vestments. Beautifull church(nice historic arangement of the sanctuary). Excellent

  • @gunnarthorsen

    @gunnarthorsen

    6 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, but there is one error in the sanctuary arrangement. St. Thomas Becket lived in the 12th century. Tabernacles weren't put on the altar until the 16th century. Prior to this, the reserved Eucharist was kept in a special cabinet called an aumbry, recessed into the wall on either side of the altar, or was placed above it in a gold vessel (often shaped like a dove) suspended by chains.

  • @mosesking2923

    @mosesking2923

    6 жыл бұрын

    Also, a catholic pallium is only supposed to have 6 crosses. The archbishop's pallium has 10 it looks like.

  • @RezaChity-G

    @RezaChity-G

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gunnarthorsen Ahhh. I now understand what my friend meant when he told me the Tabernacle in his Cathedral where he goes for Mass wasn't on the Altar.

  • @CatholicTraditional

    @CatholicTraditional

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gunnarthorsen Actually, the throne should be on the Gospel side of the sanctuary (to a congregants left). The altar was still against the wall. The aumbry is where the Holy Oils are reserved, however reserving the Eucharist there was common practice in England pre-Reformation. (This is still observed in Anglo-Catholic/High Episcopalian churches.)

  • @Ruckweiler73
    @Ruckweiler732 жыл бұрын

    Later, sadly, Henry II's comment, sometimes attributed as "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?", led to Beckett's death/assassination by four of the King's Knights. I am aware that there is controversy about Henry's exact wording but nonetheless the deed was done.

  • @mosesking2923
    @mosesking29236 жыл бұрын

    Great scene but it would have been better if the entire liturgy was in Latin with subtitles, rather than speak it in English. Beautiful vestments though and great cinematography.

  • @jimslancio

    @jimslancio

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your comment made me think of the baptism sequence in The Godfather, which was Latin.

  • @renatodantiga9160

    @renatodantiga9160

    3 жыл бұрын

    sono d'accordo, ma c'è l'errore di mettergli il pallio che avrebbe dovuto riceve da Roma dopo la consacrazione

  • @tnecklover

    @tnecklover

    2 жыл бұрын

    If they really wanted to be accurate they would all be speaking Norman French!

  • @jamie7880

    @jamie7880

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tnecklover perhaps in normal day to day life, but not in an ordination

  • @tnecklover

    @tnecklover

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jamie7880 True...it should be a combination of both.

  • @carlosr.5980
    @carlosr.59802 жыл бұрын

    Es la mejor recreación de una ordenación Episcopal de cualquier película, francamente la mejor de cuántas hemos visto.🇪🇦

  • @TheConcertmaster

    @TheConcertmaster

    2 жыл бұрын

    De acuerdo. Solo le falto que fuera todo el rito en latin en lugar de Ingles.

  • @dannym.7563
    @dannym.75635 жыл бұрын

    The Catholics have changed so much. It's sad to see how they took all the ancient traditions away.

  • @JK-ip5zc

    @JK-ip5zc

    5 жыл бұрын

    Have no fear, the ancient rites live still. They just get zero media coverage and are disdained by the modernists. Yet they are thriving.

  • @seikibrian8641

    @seikibrian8641

    4 жыл бұрын

    Danny M. "It's sad to see how they took all the ancient traditions away." Have you experienced the consecration of a bishop? It is still much like what's shown here. Except longer. *Much* longer. :-)

  • @jeffkoerbor1370

    @jeffkoerbor1370

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was antipope paul vi who took the ancient traditions away, not the Catholic Church

  • @tradcat7777

    @tradcat7777

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffkoerbor1370 Antipope John XXIII finished it, Bergoglio just continues Satan's work

  • @thomasthomas2418

    @thomasthomas2418

    4 жыл бұрын

    My friend; there are many traditional Catholic churches where the true rites are still performed .

  • @Ascension.z
    @Ascension.z2 жыл бұрын

    It felt good to hear kyrie eleison being chanted.

  • @Sameoldfitup
    @Sameoldfitup3 жыл бұрын

    “A friend is someone who knows all about you and still loves you.”

  • @redmi9834

    @redmi9834

    5 ай бұрын

    That would be our Divine Lord Yeshua.

  • @donallally4892
    @donallally48922 жыл бұрын

    How the times were so different, and the contrast with all those years later, is extraordinary

  • @ivoe1574
    @ivoe15744 жыл бұрын

    I loved Peter O Tool’s stories about he & Richard Burton would go out drinking at night. Burton, O Tool, Moffat, Gielgud, Olivier had worked with each other on the stage for years.

  • @wandaperi

    @wandaperi

    2 жыл бұрын

    That Sunday, they ended up drinking all of the Communion wine! 😁🤣😂🙃😁🍷🍷

  • @lucdeslauriers1021
    @lucdeslauriers102119 күн бұрын

    Quelle magnifique procession qui donne beaucoupmde solennité. Et l’orgue, le chœur sous les voûtes! C’est de toute beauté. Salutations cordiales depuis le nord du Québec.

  • @michaelsix9684
    @michaelsix96842 жыл бұрын

    very moving ceremony and so glad it was part of this film

  • @carlosr.5980
    @carlosr.59803 жыл бұрын

    Maravillosa película.❤️🇪🇦

  • @jimslancio
    @jimslancio3 жыл бұрын

    3:16 This twenty seconds or so of antiphon/response singing contains some authentic-sounding pitch dropping. Interesting, considering that most of the rest held pitch pretty well.

  • @2moonjuction
    @2moonjuction4 жыл бұрын

    Que pelicula!!!!! Un espectáculo.

  • @lucindabunda2106
    @lucindabunda21063 жыл бұрын

    I can only pray that they will show the real true Holy Mass of tradition. God took it away from us because we are NOT WORTHY ANYMORE OF HIS REAL PRESENCE. When I was searching for it long ago and crying to Him I was asking Him where can I find it? Then I was saying to Him Lord you took IT away because we didn't love it as we are supposed to do and we are not worthy anymore of THY REAL PRESENCE.

  • @Artaxian_Debacle
    @Artaxian_Debacle3 жыл бұрын

    Saint Thomas Becket pray for us!

  • @hazchemel
    @hazchemel Жыл бұрын

    The words of the ritual are so weighty - guardian of the Spouse of God, dedication, commitment and vigilance, faith. Nothing about welcoming this or that special person, NHS, current events, etc etc the nonsense that is spoken at the beginning, middle and end in many services. The core of it is completely other-worldly and worthwhile.

  • @jrpaol1671
    @jrpaol16712 жыл бұрын

    ¡Hermosa escena! ¡Buena fotografía! 🤠🤠🇵🇪

  • @claudiaquerciolli6979
    @claudiaquerciolli69793 жыл бұрын

    Bellissima l'investitura di Bechet. Alida.

  • @theofarrelllamos8530
    @theofarrelllamos85303 жыл бұрын

    Who else thought the ring pillow was a cake

  • @diansc7322

    @diansc7322

    2 жыл бұрын

    me

  • @nobunaga240

    @nobunaga240

    Жыл бұрын

    And me!

  • @sickandtired4926

    @sickandtired4926

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought it to be some sort of pie or thing like a plum pudding or fig tort. Fooled me completely until right before removal.

  • @bwilliamleo7872
    @bwilliamleo78725 жыл бұрын

    The tabernacle was not on the altar at that time in England, a small mistake here

  • @yardgoods

    @yardgoods

    5 жыл бұрын

    @BWilliam Leo I was wondering about that. But there's no tabernacle on the same altar (I think it's the same altar) in the excommunication of Lord Gilbert scene and in the last scene when Becket is murdered. Could it be that a tabernacle was placed on altars during episcopal consecrations at that time?

  • @giovanniserafino1731

    @giovanniserafino1731

    5 жыл бұрын

    Since the principal purpose of the tabernacle was the reservation of the Blessed Sacramentfor the sick and dying its placement on the altar ( which was a later development ) during the consecration of a bishop was very odd indeed. It was interesting to note, that the Chalice on the altar was covered by the back end of the Corporal which is historically correct for the time period. Today a separate cloth call a Pall is used.

  • @mosesking2923

    @mosesking2923

    5 жыл бұрын

    Traditionally, a Catholic altar always has an odd number of steps leading up to it. Yet there are four steps. A minor quable for a well recreated historical set. Odd how the bishop's cathedra is behind the altar when it is usually to the left of the altar in most Cathedrals.

  • @RezaChity-G

    @RezaChity-G

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mosesking2923 Well it is supposed to be Canterbury and in Canterbury the Anglican heretic has the Throne in Center place above the Altar, so thats probably where they got it.

  • @justiniand6a788

    @justiniand6a788

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RezaChity-G before the altar sat right next to the wall, the cathedra was always behind it. Study a bit more history.

  • @teresaniumata2742
    @teresaniumata27425 жыл бұрын

    Praise God forever.Thank you Jesus for your love for us.

  • @danielwmwolf

    @danielwmwolf

    2 жыл бұрын

    You must be joking. In this day and age you still think this religious BS is relevant. Science cleared the way to knowledge.

  • @junesilvermanb2979

    @junesilvermanb2979

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@danielwmwolf Science is no substitute for GOD...

  • @monicacall7532
    @monicacall75323 жыл бұрын

    I love this film!

  • @sgregg5257
    @sgregg52572 жыл бұрын

    Becket was a rather imperious guy. Even the Pope didn't really like him. Henry had made a very bad decision in picking his very worldly and rich friend. Becket liked to wield power. Unfortunately for Becket he thought he was more untouchable than he actually was. Henry most probably did not want Becket killed, but he did find the assassination helpful to his plans. This film gets the costumes of the clergy spot on to what a 12th century bishop would look like. Too often films showing clergy have sort of clergy-ish costumes.

  • @MH-ms1dg

    @MH-ms1dg

    2 жыл бұрын

    Still looks very clergy-ish to me (layman) :D What contrasts did you have in mind? And is this church a representation of the older Canterbury cathedral?

  • @Patrick3183
    @Patrick31832 жыл бұрын

    Wow feels like yesterday but it’s what 900 years now

  • @SP-SP-SP
    @SP-SP-SP2 жыл бұрын

    The good old days!

  • @markdarenvillanueva7740
    @markdarenvillanueva77403 жыл бұрын

    it should have been in latin

  • @giovanniserafino1731

    @giovanniserafino1731

    3 жыл бұрын

    The original Rite of Episcopal consecration and ordination in the 12th century would have been in Latin. However, since Latin is not understood by the vast majority of people today, it made perfect sense for the producers of the film to present the rite in the vernacular .

  • @larrygraysmith8411

    @larrygraysmith8411

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@giovanniserafino1731 and what about subtitles? Have ya heard about them?

  • @jhonrydc110
    @jhonrydc1102 жыл бұрын

    The chanting is on-point.

  • @fload46d
    @fload46d5 жыл бұрын

    Looks very accurate.

  • @chaosfive55
    @chaosfive557 жыл бұрын

    3:36 BENEDICAT VOS OMNIPOTENS DEUS!

  • @djmpvae27091978

    @djmpvae27091978

    2 жыл бұрын

    Amen.

  • @redmi9834
    @redmi98345 ай бұрын

    In those days the mitres were smaller and less ostentatious. I read somewhere that abbots were instructed to wear simple mitres of less costly making and decoration. The author said it didn't take that directive long before it was ignored.

  • @gerardolagonesrios2202
    @gerardolagonesrios22025 жыл бұрын

    Hermoso

  • @voltape
    @voltape6 жыл бұрын

    wait, wait, wait! I saw this film when it was new around 1960 - the ceremony was in LATIN! this is the middle ages - Vatican II was centuries ahead!

  • @arnoldconrad744

    @arnoldconrad744

    3 жыл бұрын

    I assume it was spoken in English translation for dramatic effect but the text accurately reflected the Latin original.

  • @voltape

    @voltape

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am 85 and I perfectly remember having watched this film when it opened - The ceremony was all in latin (and I pray in Latin every day since I was young) (as I am a Peruvian in Lima my language is Spanish, a daugther lnguage of Latin

  • @jimslancio

    @jimslancio

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@arnoldconrad744 The movie is based on an English translation of a play by the French playwright Jean Anouilh. I guess there's no telling how vernacular, or how idiomatic, it was going to turn out. "Ah, it's time for my snack," says King Henry earlier in the movie.

  • @georgenorris2657

    @georgenorris2657

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@voltape Do you think that God prefers Latin rather than the language we use among friends?

  • @janmonasterski8299

    @janmonasterski8299

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@georgenorris2657 Yes, absolutely. It is language of his Mystic Body, Holy Church.

  • @marlonf.
    @marlonf.4 ай бұрын

    La almohada del anillo parace un pay. 🥧

  • @piotr2806
    @piotr2806 Жыл бұрын

    Anybody knows what song is this on the beginning?

  • @erwannlegrand1197
    @erwannlegrand11972 жыл бұрын

    A l'an deux mille chez nous sécurité intérieure nationaux Occidentaux Gondor Royaume Francs France etc.............

  • @user-qh4wv3nf8b
    @user-qh4wv3nf8b7 ай бұрын

    May i know what movie is this?

  • @brysonstevens1431
    @brysonstevens14312 жыл бұрын

    What is the exit hymn?

  • @c-historia
    @c-historia Жыл бұрын

    magnificent!

  • @jimslancio
    @jimslancio3 жыл бұрын

    This scene couldn't've worked as well in any actor's voice but Donald Wolfit's.

  • @Alvarezsnwl
    @Alvarezsnwl2 жыл бұрын

    How the sound’s called?

  • @danielmottacabral1523
    @danielmottacabral152311 ай бұрын

    Qual filme ?

  • @philiphoel4290
    @philiphoel42908 ай бұрын

    No psrt of this would have been spoken in English. I wish they had done it in Latin, and used subtitles.

  • @fredsaint-onge7456
    @fredsaint-onge74562 жыл бұрын

    Consecration of a Bishop: Consecration de l'eveque Thomas Becket: pas investiture

  • @snuggles03
    @snuggles032 жыл бұрын

    Pretty cool

  • @elizabethp.kanizin9009
    @elizabethp.kanizin9009 Жыл бұрын

    Is that really a church ceremony or merely something shown in the movies? FYI; checkout the "impressive" ruby item he has on! 🤐

  • @jmccallion2394
    @jmccallion2394 Жыл бұрын

    The ordination of Becket as a priest took place a week before the consecration, so it was wrong to bless and anoint the palms of beckets hands!

  • @frazer3191
    @frazer31912 жыл бұрын

    This would have been in Latin in its entirety. Would have added dramatic effect to have done it in the movie.

  • @briandelaney9710

    @briandelaney9710

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s good to hear the prayers of the episcopal consecration.

  • @harmoniabalanza
    @harmoniabalanza2 жыл бұрын

    I think a number of the commenters are quite confused about this scene/film.

  • @donallally4892
    @donallally48923 жыл бұрын

    Indeed so

  • @ttrestle
    @ttrestle2 жыл бұрын

    What movie?

  • @junesilvermanb2979

    @junesilvermanb2979

    2 жыл бұрын

    Becket is a 1964 British historical drama film about the historic, tumultuous relationship between Henry II of England and his friend-turned-bishop Thomas Becket. It is a dramatic film adaptation of the 1959 play Becket or the Honour of God by Jean Anouilh, made by Hal Wallis Productions and released by Paramount Pictures. It was directed by Peter Glenville and produced by Hal B. Wallis with Joseph H. Hazen as executive producer. The screenplay was written by Edward Anhalt, based on Anouilh's play. The music score was by Laurence Rosenthal, the cinematography by Geoffrey Unsworth and the editing by Anne V. Coates.

  • @huseyinmutlu9759
    @huseyinmutlu97592 жыл бұрын

    ✝️🙏

  • @michellep1210
    @michellep12102 жыл бұрын

    I need to watch this movie. What is it?

  • @TheZombieman87

    @TheZombieman87

    Жыл бұрын

    Thomas Becket I think. It was on YT last time I checked.

  • @umbertotoni3021
    @umbertotoni30213 жыл бұрын

    That was a true investiture of St Augustin and Anselm successor. The last two investitures were rudiculously pantomimic shamanic- politically - correct and multicultural mamboo.

  • @organicgardener1112
    @organicgardener11122 жыл бұрын

    So what happened to this religion? Anything of it left anywhere?

  • @redmi9834

    @redmi9834

    3 ай бұрын

    The abbies and monastery were mostly dissolved. The cathedrals were taken over by King Henry VIII and bishops appointed loyal to him and not the pope. They remained Catholic in worship until his son Edward VI became king who had been brought up Lutheran. The Catholic Mass was banned and replaced and replaced with the Lutheran service of Holy Communion. Those who refuse to attend the new services were called recusants. They were fined, imprisoned and had property confiscated. The Motr obstinate ones were charged with treason and executed.

  • @Miguel-gx1so
    @Miguel-gx1so3 жыл бұрын

    What is the name of the Beautiful chat ?

  • @timothyfreeman97

    @timothyfreeman97

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which one. There are several in this scene.

  • @bardalatos1710

    @bardalatos1710

    2 жыл бұрын

    1st chant

  • @AGMundy
    @AGMundy2 жыл бұрын

    Becket achieved far more in death than he ever did in life.

  • @user-cx8ro1pu4r
    @user-cx8ro1pu4r10 ай бұрын

    Life is called the catalogues upon that he lies across the catalogues of one I did

  • @Mrdepointer
    @Mrdepointer12 жыл бұрын

    Whats the actor who is playing thomas Becket named???????

  • @Dannys99887

    @Dannys99887

    7 жыл бұрын

    Richard Burton.

  • @BuckDanny2314

    @BuckDanny2314

    7 жыл бұрын

    Richard Burton

  • @lorenzo2011ist

    @lorenzo2011ist

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wooden Burton.

  • @UWalvern0810

    @UWalvern0810

    4 жыл бұрын

    Richard Jenkins, actually.

  • @seikibrian8641

    @seikibrian8641

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@UWalvern0810 No, Richard Jenkins was his father. *He* was Richard Jenkins, Jr. ;-)

  • @djmpvae27091978
    @djmpvae270919783 ай бұрын

    Medieval Latin chant.

  • @angelcachaza7158
    @angelcachaza71587 жыл бұрын

    Cómo se llama esta iglesia

  • @arnoldconrad744

    @arnoldconrad744

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cathedral of Canterbury. The original church that was replaced by the current Gothic masterpiece.

  • @richardgadberry8398
    @richardgadberry83982 жыл бұрын

    Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?

  • @lidiasoares5675
    @lidiasoares56752 жыл бұрын

    For some reason, Actors cannot accurately and faithfully portray the real thing!!

  • @user-cx8ro1pu4r
    @user-cx8ro1pu4r10 ай бұрын

    Intactive in my room we go attractive

  • @billymiguelsequeirabonilla7835
    @billymiguelsequeirabonilla78357 жыл бұрын

    WTF!!!!! why is this in English?

  • @randaechmarter6091

    @randaechmarter6091

    7 жыл бұрын

    Well this is just a depiction of what really happened during the Consecration. It was obviously Latin before, and we can clearly see, the Old rite is being said "It is a Bishop's duty to preach etc"

  • @johnjones6601

    @johnjones6601

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because English is the best.of course.

  • @teresaniumata2742
    @teresaniumata27425 жыл бұрын

    God willing tradition will restore soon and get rid of the evil novos order mass by unfaithful uncatholic priests

  • @redmi9834

    @redmi9834

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't see it as evil, but as an unnecessary change that as Cardinal Ottaviani said represents a striking departure from the theology of the Tridentine Mass. This change was thought to facilitate the union of the Anglican and Lutheran churches with Rome if those things that they found in the Tridentine Mass at odds with their theology of the service of Holy Communion. That has not happened, and did immeasurable damage to the church and faithful causing many to go into schism and apostasy and a death of vocations with many religious houses and seminaries being closed or much reduced in occupancy with only a few elderly members of once thriving community.

  • @aemiliadelroba4022
    @aemiliadelroba40222 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @gunnarthorsen
    @gunnarthorsen5 жыл бұрын

    Look at the vestments that Becket and the bishops are wearing. They're beautiful, fitting, traditional, but also masculine. I will never understand why traditionalists priests today are so in love with effeminate looking albs dripping with lace, and skimpy chasubles that look like two flaps of cloth hanging down front and back, known as the Roman or fiddleback chasuble. This came into being as an innovation, a departure FROM tradition. In stead of simplifying overly ornamented Gothic chasubles that made it hard for priests to move in the late 1400's, the solution was to cut more and more away from the sides! Two popes and St. Charles Borromeo spoke out against the so called Roman chasuble. Want to be traditional? Want to exemplify Christ as a priest and a MAN? Go back to what we see in this film!

  • @mosesking2923

    @mosesking2923

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, of all the problems with Catholic liturgy, I don't think that the laced albs is highest on the priority list. Bringing back the Tridentine Mass (pre-1955) is all that will suffice. The aesthetics, like ugly vestments and ugly churches, can easily be fixed later.

  • @TomorrowWeLive

    @TomorrowWeLive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Literally all of Catholicism is innovation. Centuries upon centuries of it.

  • @rafaelwilks

    @rafaelwilks

    3 жыл бұрын

    Whatever chasubles and albs were used by Saint Pius X are the best style. "The holiness of the sacred is despised; the majesty of divine worship is not only disapproved by evil men, but defiled and held up to ridicule." ~ His Holiness Pope Gregory XVI, Mirari Vos (5) www.papalencyclicals.net/greg16/g16mirar.htm

  • @rafaelwilks

    @rafaelwilks

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is a difference between restoring Tradition and falling victim to and surrendering to the blandishments of antiquarianism: www.vatican.va/content/pius-xii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xii_enc_20111947_mediator-dei.html

  • @rafaelwilks

    @rafaelwilks

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mosesking2923 laced albs are the best, considering that they are the most beautiful and majestic for God. I mean, they were standard for Saint Pius X. "The holiness of the sacred is despised; the majesty of divine worship is not only disapproved by evil men, but defiled and held up to ridicule." ~ His Holiness Pope Gregory XVI, Mirari Vos (5) www.papalencyclicals.net/greg16/g16mirar.htm

  • @ttrestle
    @ttrestle2 жыл бұрын

    Indoctrination for all!!

  • @lorenzo2011ist
    @lorenzo2011ist5 жыл бұрын

    Wooden Burton.

  • @TrueRomancer04
    @TrueRomancer043 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful movie scene. Though I can't help but wonder how many of those happy peasants cheering outside starved while the church hegemony swept about the cathedrals swathed in silks and speckled with gold and jewels. Strange, then, to see so many of the comments on these clips shouting for a return to this setup.

  • @arnoldconrad744

    @arnoldconrad744

    3 жыл бұрын

    I doubt that most of those "starving peasants" would have begrudged the beauty of God's house or shared your secularist views. I didn't see a church building swathed in silk but assume you meant the vestments worn by the bishops.

  • @luissantiago8446

    @luissantiago8446

    3 жыл бұрын

    You sound like the Pharisees condemning the woman who poured expensive ointment on our Lords feet. Our Lord blessed this woman's homage and deference. In the Old Testament, God Himself commanded the Hebrews in the Sinai Desert how He was to be worshipped. And they were exacting directions, where much gold and skillful craftsmanship was expected. The Levite priests were also expected to arrayed in fine vestments. Not coarse woven garments. If this was demanded of them, we should offer our Lord, God, no less. All glory and honor be His!!!

  • @pmccoy5511

    @pmccoy5511

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's all moot now with the scandals anyway.

  • @JoseRX95
    @JoseRX955 жыл бұрын

    Hahha a Novus Ordo table

  • @altudy

    @altudy

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, seeing that this film was made in 1963, when Vatican ii had only just opened, I think that's unlikely.

  • @JoseRX95

    @JoseRX95

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@altudy by that time many changes were introduced in the mass call "Normative" .

  • @justint5002

    @justint5002

    5 жыл бұрын

    Altars were not always pushed against the wall. That was largely only done in smaller parishes in the Middle Ages where space in the Sanctuary was limited, and was adopted more widely after Trent. The Liturgy was still done ad orientem of course, but the altar was often freestanding, especially in Cathedrals as the Bishop's cathedra would be placed directly behind it, as it still is in the Byzantine Rite. Nothing Novus Ordo about it, just Medieval.

  • @michaelpodrebarac8519

    @michaelpodrebarac8519

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well-said, Justin T. Ignorance of history results in a certain ignorance in ecclesiastics, regardless of the point of view.

  • @joecct77

    @joecct77

    3 жыл бұрын

    This was pre Council of Trent. Sarum Rite?

  • @cleartruth-
    @cleartruth-2 жыл бұрын

    They multiply Priests and saints with a sullen face, perform miracles, cast out demons. Jesus said the tree is known by its fruit. THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO MATTHEW 7: 21-23: 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and did many miracles in your name?' 23 Then will I tell them plainly that I did not know you at all. Get away from me, you workers of iniquity. Matthew 7: 15-20 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do they gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles? 17 So every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; and an evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Ye shall know them by their fruits. B. LETTER TO CORINTHIANS (Apostle Paul) 11: 13-15: 13 For such are the apostles, liars, deceitful workers, impersonating the apostles of Christ. 14 And it is not surprising. because Satan also takes the form of a bright angel.15 Wherefore, it is not a great thing that his ministers should be likened unto the ministers of righteousness. Their end will be in proportion to their deeds. 4: 4. In whom is the god of this world? (Satan) blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the light of the glory of the gospel of Christ might not shine upon them, which is the image of God.

  • @maryzheng5182
    @maryzheng51822 жыл бұрын

    The bizarre cook distinctively question because may successively phone per a faint fair animal. trashy, damp daffodil

  • @classiclife7204
    @classiclife72042 жыл бұрын

    I'll assume the depiction of investiture was fairly accurate so as not to offend sensibilities. Assuming that, it also demonstrates that the Church was pretty out-of-control by this time. Crowning and enthroning a priest is a little over-the-top. Pretty worldly.

  • @oh_say_it_ditto

    @oh_say_it_ditto

    2 жыл бұрын

    wdym?

  • @classiclife7204

    @classiclife7204

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@oh_say_it_ditto I don't know what was unclear about my comment.

  • @LUIS-ox1bv

    @LUIS-ox1bv

    Жыл бұрын

    It was the King who was out of control, not the Church. Learn your history.

  • @classiclife7204

    @classiclife7204

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LUIS-ox1bv Nah, it was the Church.

  • @justiniand6a788

    @justiniand6a788

    10 ай бұрын

    The Mitre and the Throne are symbols of the Episcopacy derived from Biblical Imagery. The Mitre hearkens back to the Mitre or Turban worn by the High Priest Aaron. The Throne or Cathedra hearkens back to the concept of the Chair of Moses mentioned by Christ and to the thrones Christ promised to the Apostles during the Last Supper. Far from being worldly, they illustrate properly the spiritual authority of the Bishop within the Church.

  • @lorenzo2011ist
    @lorenzo2011ist5 жыл бұрын

    Wooden.

  • @garundip.mcgrundy8311
    @garundip.mcgrundy83115 жыл бұрын

    Yeah! Why did they keep those young boys around all the time?

  • @destinychaser8050

    @destinychaser8050

    5 жыл бұрын

    Have you seen public school teachers lately? Bite your tongue

  • @seikibrian8641

    @seikibrian8641

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alter boys (called "alter servers" in the modern age, where girls are also allowed to serve) play important roles in the mass. Starting them when they are young serves to instill in them a love of the liturgy, and is a step on the path to a religious vocation.

  • @RezaChity-G

    @RezaChity-G

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@seikibrian8641 Yes!

  • @TomorrowWeLive

    @TomorrowWeLive

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@seikibrian8641 let's be real tho, there was also a phenomenal amount of buggering. That's well attested even by writers at the time. Same in monasteries.

  • @joecct77

    @joecct77

    3 жыл бұрын

    The First Lord of the Admiralty concurs

  • @zhouwu
    @zhouwu2 жыл бұрын

    It's a terrible mixture of words from the Bible taken out of context and the ornate things of Rome to impress the eyes of the laity. I doubt I'll have many friends in this comment section, but that shouldn't cow me into keeping silent. My Lord Jesus did not die on the Cross for all men who are willing to pay the price of faith to be saved through Him for the Vatican to build up a hierarchy to replace the hierarchy of Judaism! Our Lord Jesus Christ has enshrined the concept that only He is Lord (and what a Lord He is that He washes the feet of Simon Peter and the others and prepares a table for them) and that the rest of us are all brothers. Shall we desert Him and set men over us as rulers, just as the children of Israel did in rebelling against their own God by asking God for a king of their own to replace Samuel's two sons? God forbid!

  • @junesilvermanb2979

    @junesilvermanb2979

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Pope is the Vicar of Christ on earth...

  • @LUIS-ox1bv

    @LUIS-ox1bv

    Жыл бұрын

    God created the order of things on a vertical line, not horizontal. You are not on the same level as your father or mother. Protestantism was a revolt against authority, just as much as Lucifer 's was against the authority of God. Liberalism began with Lucifer, and continues to have the same effect today. " I will not serve," is Lucifer's motto.

  • @slimebeingslimey8266
    @slimebeingslimey82662 жыл бұрын

    Idolatry in this video

  • @rayjordan7278
    @rayjordan72783 жыл бұрын

    Traditional Ritualism ... is not Salvation through the Lord Jesus Christ ... but it does put on a great show !!! Still , I suppose not great enough to spend all eternity in hell for dying unsaved. After all ... directed at one of the utmost in education and training and historical traditional ritualistic servants in Judaism ... Nicodemus , a member of the Jewish Ruling Council ... Jesus said , “ I tell you the truth , no one can see the Kingdom of God unless he is born again.” Straight from the mouth of God himself. Traditional Ritualism ... or ... Christianity CHOOSE ... and choose wisely. Semper Fi

  • @hectordanielsanchezcobo7713

    @hectordanielsanchezcobo7713

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why not both?

  • @rayjordan7278

    @rayjordan7278

    3 жыл бұрын

    Héctor Daniel Sánchez Cobo Only one works to get you to Heaven. The other ... is an actual , dead 💀 end. Semper Fi

  • @paxmaster2002

    @paxmaster2002

    3 жыл бұрын

    All of the ritual centres around the worship of Christ. All of it designed to impart theological knowledge of God to every sense. Were you baptised? Why? It's ritual. Or is it because the Lord instituted it. Investigate our "empty ritual" and see that it is biblical, instituated by the Lord and the disciples.

  • @rayjordan7278

    @rayjordan7278

    3 жыл бұрын

    paxmaster2002 Baptism does NOT save a person. Baptism is the outward expression of a persons FAITH in the Lord Jesus Christ as Savior. It symbolizes the condition of our lives ... dead in a state of sin as ordinary folks ... WITHOUT the saving knowledge and acceptance of the free gift of eternal life in Heaven ... instead of the certainty of eternity in hell as an unsaved person. The person is immersed ... that’s the death of self and acceptance of Salvation ... and lifted back up out the water symbolizing the resurrection of our new life in FAITH in God ... washed and made clean ... forgiven of all a persons sins in life. Giving yourself to Jesus means HE is given charge over your life. Jesus is in control of your every aspect of day to day life. Baptism says ... I AM GLORIOUSLY SAVED BY THE CLEANSING BLOOD OF JESUS THAT HE SHED FOR ME ON THAT CROSS. That’s all there is to it. FIRST a person has to be willing ... and make a personal choice to climb out from behind the “wheel” ... representing your life ... and get in the back seat , giving Jesus the drivers seat to do the driving of your life ... WITHOUT a person telling HIM where to turn ... what road to take ... and how fast or slow to drive. Jesus is given CONTROL. Along the way ... a person sitting in the back seat gets to see allot of people that wrapped their lives around telephone poles. Cleaned out a ditch or two ... or worse ... crashed their lives ... head on. Jesus comes to live inside of you when you invite HIM into your life. Get it ? It’s not ritualistic. Religion is ... that’s man made. Christianity is the greatest experience on earth and Jesus said that if it were not so ... he would have told us so. It’s a Supernatural road trip of a lifetime. Allot more exciting than special operations. The mission of a lifetime ... and I’ve never had one ritualistic moment serving our Father in Heaven. Thanks to Jesus ... I am spiritually locked and loaded !!! Semper Fi

  • @hectordanielsanchezcobo7713

    @hectordanielsanchezcobo7713

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rayjordan7278 Baptism is still a ritual you do tho