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@Briguy1027

Жыл бұрын

If you're doing fantasy stuff. I would like to ask you to do the Malazan series by Erikson. It's 10 books that start out reasonable and then get so super confusing that I think it may help people to understand it better if there is a series on it explaining some of the strategies, lore, etc.

The irony of "I fraked up so bad in the Phillipines" MacArthur calling anyone incompetent...

@MarkGoding

Жыл бұрын

Dugout Doug was extremely over rated.

@jlvfr

Жыл бұрын

@@beepboop204 Tolkien... but he was good at his job.

@davidkinsey8657

Жыл бұрын

McArthur's plans were always perfect. Every failure was due to incompetent allies or subordinates. Just read his autobiography it explains how he was the greatest military genius of World War Two.

@thefisherking78

Жыл бұрын

Douglas MacArthur does not accept the criticism of plebeians 😎

@todiathink8864

Жыл бұрын

MacArthur was where he was because the US had a strategy that didn't include him. He ccx was always whining about Nimitz and how the Navy was trying to replace Army Command. He was worse than useless when it came to battle. The Aussies had him because the Americans didn't WANT him.

There was an Australian film maker on the during the advance, his name was Damien Parer, he captured the bulk of the film footage of Kokoda. He won Australia’s first Academy Award for his news real picture “Kokoda Front Line”. When it was shown to the Australian public it showed the real conditions the soldiers was fighting in and their physical condition. It shocked the public that it lead to a huge backlash against MacArthur and John Curtain (Australian Prime Minister) at the time.

@blockmasterscott

Жыл бұрын

This reminds me of how happy I was to get old enough to retire from being a manager in a government job. Being in charge is not for sissies, even in the civilian world. I can only imagine being a general or a prime minister. Nooooooo thank you. To be fair, America wasn't in the war for not even a year, so American industry had not yet kicked in.

@roostersbays95

Жыл бұрын

he was heavily censured by the brass. It was feared he may do a 'Murdoch' and send the real reality narrative to the Australian public via non official channels.

@rogelioaranda7124

Жыл бұрын

The Japanese, fighting with the same elements and outnumbered, meanwhile never complained and just beat their asses.

@roostersbays95

Жыл бұрын

@@rogelioaranda7124 beat whose asses?

@tileux

Жыл бұрын

As a result of the controversy over that Parer went to film footage with the US marines. He was killed by japanese fire on peleliu.

It makes me happy to see a history channel actually covering Australia

@docbailey3265

Жыл бұрын

It reminds me of the Sound of Music and Edelweiss.

@sandygehrmann6309

Жыл бұрын

It'd just be nice if they pronounced words like "Kokoda" correctly

@gr8aussief--kup

Жыл бұрын

@@sandygehrmann6309 I am unsure if it's incorrect or we pronounce the Papuan word wronf

@sandygehrmann6309

Жыл бұрын

@@gr8aussief--kup I mean if it's going off any track record, K&G have always been terrible with their pronunciations. However, I looked it up and it's a fish dish that is pronounced "Koh-kon-da", like how we pronounce "Koh-koh-da" in Australia but with an "n" sound before the d.

The incompetency of McArthur and Blamey was well observed by the troops, and a number of wartime chants sing of how little regard the men had for these commanders.

@nowthenzen

Жыл бұрын

wherever MacArthur went the hatred and scorn of his troops followed

@generalbooger9146

Жыл бұрын

You gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet

@nowthenzen

Жыл бұрын

@@mabeSc not if you are a narcisistic sociopath who actually believes eggs and people are the same thing

@rogelioaranda7124

Жыл бұрын

You know, those Aussies were terrible at it. Mac rightly had to push their asses.

@jamier65551

Жыл бұрын

@@rogelioaranda7124 did you watch any of the videos on new guinea??

Can't believe we're getting close to the one year point already

@wmetz1869

Жыл бұрын

Hello mr early access.

@radec5437

Жыл бұрын

Hello mr early access

@kevintierney5711

Жыл бұрын

@@wmetz1869 Don't hate me because I'm beautiful

@kevintierney5711

Жыл бұрын

@@beepboop204 Don't hate me because I'm beautiful

@kevintierney5711

Жыл бұрын

@@radec5437 Don't hate me because I'm beautiful

Last comment I promise. I was trained as an Airborne Ranger. I am astonished at the audacity and skill of the AUS flanking actions throughout this fight, over God Awful terrain. With monsoon rain pissing on them. They were masters in the art of patrolling. Magnificent!

“I don’t like the Papuan jungle. It’s moist, swampy, and irritating.” - Everyone

I was well versed on the the Solomon Islands campaign. I had read about the courageous Australian battles in New Guinea. It is so interesting to see them play out simultaneously.

@troystaunton254

9 ай бұрын

Agreed. It’s weird hearing of things like guadal canal, Kokoda, Stalingrad and then realising it all happened at the same time. It wasn’t like 5 events over 5 years. It’s 5 events in 1 day every day. Personally I find it easy to forget the scope of what’s happening at this time.

Dougout Doug's grandiosity and unrealistic expectations cost many Allied soldiers their lives needlessly. I notice many British documentaries present MacArthur as being essential to wining the Pacific War; but IMHO I believe he was an impediment and very wasteful of lives and resources in an effort to self-promote. Your series has restored some reality to the myth of MacArthur, for which I thank you. Love, David

@twrampage

Жыл бұрын

It's not a simple one or the other, some things he did well, others not so much. I think a part of the problem is that he didn't spend long enough at certain levels of command during his career.

@Ukraineaissance2014

Жыл бұрын

which british documentaries present that, maybe world at war, I dont remember? its certainly not the modern view in british history though

@davidvonkettering204

Жыл бұрын

@@Ukraineaissance2014 I am glad to hear that, but videos made available by Timeline in the US are still very bullish on MacArthur. Cheers!

My Grandfather fought with the Mud and Blood [2/33rd] on Kokoda ( say it 'COhCOh DaH). Was injured, left for dead, rescured by a Marine element, treated for a deadly head injury, and survived to return to Battle on the trail and stay with the unit on the front lines all the way to Borneo.

@joevicmeneses8918

Жыл бұрын

there was a marine element on kokoda ?? Weren't the marines all based in Guadalcanal.

@MrCarlSykes

Жыл бұрын

Epone, my grandfather was in the Mud and Blood as well.Your grandfather's story is truly amazing, least of which is that after he came through being seriously wounded and somehow surviving, he headed straight back to the thick of it. I am thinking when a man is literally fighting to protect his family and friends then things change and he will do whatever it takes. Apart from being very humbled by our grandfathers actions, I have come to the conclusion that blokes like you and me have the blood of a hero in our veins. All the very best to you my friend, Carl

@troystaunton254

9 ай бұрын

@@joevicmeneses8918I to am surprised about the marines. I was under the impression that the United States contingent were national guard troops. Whom absolutely fought well above their station despite being lead like lambs to slaughter by incompetent McArthur.

@bradwaghorn8955

2 ай бұрын

No Marines at Kokoda.

The one complaint I would have about the excellent presentations from `Kings and Generals' is that the illustrations don't , and in no way could, show the extent of the savagery and depravity of the wars they cover. Brief descriptions of starving Japanese dragging dead Australian soldiers back to their mud holes to consume , make in passing , are like a wake up call to the horror it must have been for all.

Easy for MacArthur and Blamey to push bits around on a map. All kudos to the fighters and commanders at the front, in one of the worst environments ever fought through.

Another amazing installment in a treasure of a documentary series. I love that you detail all the battles that you can. I can not recall ever reading or seeing such in-depth looks at these battles and the commanders who were in charge. Best Pacific War series ever.

Incredible how close the Japanese got to Port Morseby

@alansalas1880

Жыл бұрын

They probably could see it from where thye are and then be order to retreat must have been hard to follow.

@graemesydney38

8 ай бұрын

@@alansalas1880 They could see the glow of lights of Moresby off the clouds at night.

It would have been great to see blamley and Macarthur on this from leading 😀 👍, it's easy to command from the rear and never travelled one inch of the terrain 😆 🤣 😂

Great Series. Excellent overview. Templetons Crossing is about 6000 feet or 2000 metres above sea level. General Blamey actually had the actual nerve to criticise the Australian Militia for their fighting withdrawal from Kokoda.

It's nice to see from the comments that quite a number of people see MacArthur as a minimally competent egotist whose reputation as a war hero is based on relentless self promotion.(and a good job at Inchon)

@Crazyfrog41

Жыл бұрын

Ironically, from what I read... the landings at Inchon where a complete clusterf#$k and only succeeded because the north Koreans where caught completely by surprise, and the Marine NCO's (many of whome where WWII vets themselves) improvising when the plan went to shit

Sadly, Doug was sent there bc he was a pain in the ass. I am surprised we maintained such a good alliance w AUS in spite of his conduct. The coral sea fight proved to AUS that we would risk our carriers to defend them. They haven’t forgotten to this day. Great people and Allies.

@sticksnstones5407

Жыл бұрын

Cheers mate, we Aussies also know many Americans Macarthur's incompetence.

@graemesydney38

8 ай бұрын

The three military days of remembrance in Australia are Anzac Day, 11th November (Armistice Day) and The Battle of the Coral Sea.

A nice reminder why Mcarthur is so disliked in our history (Aust.)

@sjins1poolboy698

Жыл бұрын

McArthur and Blamey that is!

@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-

Жыл бұрын

Dugout doug

I really appreciate the detail in these videos. My father was a vet from world war 2 in the pacific and I am really enjoying this series.

Strange. Lloyd is criticized for launching a frontal attack but at the same time they were too slow? Criticism of Lloyd can only come with the utmost criticism of the higher command structure. To me it sounds like there is way too less criticism of the pencil pushers. But they probably were reporting about the dangerous injuries they suffered...like paper cuts. 🙄

Brilliant video and commentary as usual from K&G. Grateful for the detailed depiction of desperate struggles between two armies under pressure from rears. The info of JPs madness seems like common cases that we have to accept.

How could Macarthur dare to replace anyone? He was the one who collected failures at the beginning of the pacific war.

@rogelioaranda7124

Жыл бұрын

Simple. His New Guinea commanders were so adept at not following orders

@kuleropa5437

Жыл бұрын

@@rogelioaranda7124 u havent seen the whole series then. and they didnt follwed my orders is a weak excusse for a commander...

@nedkelly9688

Жыл бұрын

@@kuleropa5437 Lol Australian commanders had way more battlefield experience then MacArthur.. a lot of battles along Kokoda and Pacific would of lost if followed MacArthur.. He was absolutley useless and never should of been the supreme leader of the Allies. After Gallipoli no Australian commander would blindly follow a foreign leader if would lead to unnecessary losses of Australian lives when it could be done a better way. Proof of that is in every battle where Australians suffer less losses then other countries would. Even Vietnam war Australian SAS lost barely any and out of all Special Forces there has the highest kill ratio.

@nedkelly9688

Жыл бұрын

@@rogelioaranda7124 Also Australian commanders won battles by ignoring his commands as he was never on the Battlefield to see or know what was going on. Tactics need to change on sper of the moment and not by a General relaxing in Brisbane Australia. One battle along Kokoda would of been lost by MacArthur if wasn't ignored.. he wanted a fixed heavy machine gun emplacement frontal assaulted.. Australians ignored him and took 2 days to come up from behind it and take it out.. Was won by far less losses this way. MacArthur wanted to beat Nimitz and his Marines in Guadal Canal and would of sent as many Australians to their deaths just by doing this This was proven in Buna Gona campaigns. No foreign commander should command foreign troops and especially one that lost like MacArthur did in Singapore.

@kuleropa5437

Жыл бұрын

@@nedkelly9688 excatly MacArthur was the worst!

From what I understand, Blamey was not on board for a lot of MacArthur's decisions, but MacArthur went over his head and got Curtin onside, leaving him with little he could do.

@Lwis

Жыл бұрын

Blamey and MacArthur really distrusted each other. Both weren't on the ground for much of the fighting and were giving orders from Australia, causing a massive disconnect between the soldiers on the ground and military command. Neither generals were liked by the fighting soldiers as a result of their shockingly bad generalship.

These Videos are amazing thank for putting so much work into them

This channel is still on top of my all subsscribed channel in terms of quality content and presentations.

@danielmansfeld7747

Жыл бұрын

Word.

Had a really terrible fkn day. Bless yall for giving me something to look forward to all day at least. This is seriously my fav show on youtube of all time. I love yall

I dare Kings and Generals to do a documentary covering the entirety of 40k

That battle was Intense!!!

McArthur and Blamey were never like by the soilders or command during the war and aren't really like thesse days, i think he wanted to be like Monarsh since he was on his staff duing WW1

Always great content, thank you!

this series is fantastic and top notch - great visuals, narration and quite in-depth tactical coverage. some of my friends are history buffs and they play WWII tabletop war games (I tried applying destroyer and cruiser tactics from the Battle of the Dutch East Indies recently) and I've recommended this series to them! I've also started replaying Hearts of Iron 4 because of this series.

Kokoda is such a fascinating and undercovered campaign in the Pacific War. Much thanks for covering something i knew very little about! The Australians really proved their metal along with their New Guinean allies

Another great installment. Can’t wait for the next one!!

Great video. You guys do it awesome.

My great grandfather, Reginald Lambert, fought on the Kokoda Track in WWII. He was a corporal and lead a team of artillerymen, luckily he survived. I am proud of him, and I am grateful for the valiant fighting him and his comrades enacted.

Didn't realize before how much Australia contributed in the Pacific theater. They have my respect. I cant think of any other Commonwealth nation, other than Britain proper, who fought as America's equal in the Pacific.

@thedavincikid

Жыл бұрын

Most of the Australians in the early part of the New Guinea conscripts, with little or no fighting experience, the experienced soldiers were fighting in the middle east, original rats of Tobruk, after they held back Rommel and the threat from japan increased, they were ordered home, they dyed their uniforms from desert yellow to jungle green on the transports and landed directly in New Guinea and went straight up to the line.

@MikeTysonOfficial

Жыл бұрын

Personally, I think Australia fought more!

@theawesomeman9821

Жыл бұрын

@@MikeTysonOfficial both pulled their weight

@rafaelkazazian1657

Жыл бұрын

@@theawesomeman9821 fair enough. The British also saw their share of death

great work as usual!

Just think, both the Axis and Allies had their supply lines stretched to the limit.

The more I learn about him, the more I dislike McArthur. He must have had a god tier PR team because damn does he make the wrong decision 90% of the time.

Thank you , K&G . 🐺

Am enjoying this series, keep up the good work.

What the hell was delta company doing, looks like they were off in the bush doing side quests for the first half, see them come back around 14:00 mark 😂

@jozzieokes3422

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@blockmasterscott

Жыл бұрын

As a gamer, you made me laugh out hard and loud in RL at "side quest". I'm laughing as I type this.....🤣🤣🤣

@RW77777777

Жыл бұрын

sometimes the elevation isn't clear in the maps, there's mountain and sheer cliffsides to the west of the Track they are trying to circumnavigate. the terrain/elevation is more clear in the videos covering the defense of the Philippines like Mt Mariveles it's the jungle overlay

Doug! Get your ass up there and lead from the front!!!

No mention of the fuzzies? They were an important part of the Australian offensive and defensive retreats that saved many lives.

Great video as always !

I love these videos!

Wow. I was unaware of the shocking sidebar at 11.00. impressive research and presentation.

@tileux

Жыл бұрын

Youre going to be a lot more shocked by what happened at buna, gona, and sanananda then.

"Are you guys the Second Third?" "Nah, we're the Third Third!" *Confused Japanese shouting from pallisades*

My great-grandma's little brother fought in this battle and then died in the Battle of Oivi-Gorari. Aged 21. Hopefully you guys cover Oivi next.

Another great video

Actual chaos in these battles.

Keep up the good videos

Looking at few pictures of the track, it leads through REALLY tough terrain. The men who fought a battle there and enduring heat, exhaustion, diseases, rain, etc., had to be truly magnificent masters of survival. Hope I will visit Papua one day.

The Septics entrance into the War , prolonged the World conflict by at least a further twelve months . They had nice ice-cream and silk stockings though .

I hope that you would do Carlson's legendary march across Guadalcanal. That man was a maverick!

Aussie here. Holey moley!!!! I had never heard about the starving Japanese soldiers eating parts of dead Diggers. No wonder, and for myriad other reasons, there was no quarter given to captured Japanese troops by the Aussies..

@minoru-kk

Жыл бұрын

Japanese were also reluctant to surrender, not because of honor nor their sins, but they knew of the unofficial Allied policy of not taking any POW for retaliation and efficiency. But well this is small detail.

It's crazy that the Australian army at the time of the Papuan campaign numbered 730000 personnel out of a population of 7.2 million. That is an entirely unsustainable level when you consider how much equipment a modern fighting force requires. Consequently an immediate downsizing took place once the pressing threat of a Japanese invasion on the Australian continent was dispelled.

Coffee and K&G is how I wake.

I don't know why those Australian guys didn't pitch MacArthur out of a widow. They lost a lot of very brave boys because of his nitpicking, and leading from the rear. As I've always said, I never met a single veteran enlisted man who had a single good thing to say about him.

@elwin38

Жыл бұрын

Even some of the allied officers, generals, and admirals loathed him. Dont get me wrong, i loved some of the decisions of MacArthur and he was an American hero, but he pissed off and alienated a lot of people, even the politicians in Washington didnt like him.

This series reveals a total nightmare. Shocking stuff.

Why do people think MacArthur is some kind of genius? Because he (often) said so? Aggressively stupid commander spending lives like pennies to satisfy his ego. Always taking credit for success and shifting blame for failure... The more I study the war, the more I dislike him.

@blockmasterscott

Жыл бұрын

Actually, the more I learn from these videos, like here and in the world War 2 channel with Nidel, I see my idols in a different light, such as Patton, MacArthur, Rommel, Yamamato, and Montgomery. Not only Dug Out Doug, but all the top generals from both Axis and Allies.

@troystaunton254

9 ай бұрын

@@blockmasterscottI think in many cases success was their undoing. For example at El Alemain Bernard Montgomery was very much a “we did this and we did that” guy. By the time market garden happens he’s been feted as a hero general, and suddenly it’s “I did this and I did that.” Then when it fails his freshly minted massive ego can’t handle that his plan was rushed so it must be American troops not doing their bit. Guys like McArthur were just who maniacs from before the war, and I guess a certain amount of ego is required by generals because if you’re not convinced of your greatness than I’d imagine it’d be hard to send men into action.

Video yg kerenn kawan...👍👍👍😃😃 Sukses selalu.

@yuyukosaigyouji7592

Жыл бұрын

Indonesia viewers rise up

We come from the land down under!! Yeah.

Cue gratuitous but heartfelt flattery: I'm eating this series up! Incredible amount of detail plus, for once, being able to see and appreciate how all the events I *did* know about played out against each other *in time*. There is, however, one nit I'd like to pick. Those fascinating Infoboxes sometimes appear behind your corner logo. I'm not suggesting you remove the logo/watermark, I understand why it's there. Maybe just nudge the positioning of the Infoboxes a bit.

My Uncle was called to a parade to be addressed by Blamey, men in the parade where so incensed by the accusations they needed to fight harder, some members where ready to shoot Blamey and their mates stopped them.

Your label for the US 32nd ID at 4:26 reads "38th Division" (the fly-out label is correct, it's the static box label).

I didn't realise the Japanese took their sushi to the next level during that campaign by eating the aussies.

Hope you do a vid on The Hump airlift and Ledo Road supplying supplies to China from India. Huge feat of logistics

My father was one of the diggers on the kokoda trail.

MacArthur was responsible for many Australian casualties. His ego and Blamey being useless didn't help with the campaign.

Another great video but have you forgotten the CBI theatre

GET EM!!

Aussie represent.

@hings and generals :would you consider to cover the time when indo-bactrian kingdoms existed? or to try to present the wars betwen the eglish colonist and the maori population of new zeeland? or maybe the time line history of spanish and portugal empire from the time of conquerors to the time of simon bolivar and all freedom wars between the spanish/portuguese empire and the revolutionaries? i didnt see to many documentaries about these topics on internet...thank you.with respect, laurentiu

Excellent coverage. However , as an Australian, I find some pronunciations off the mark. Three come to mind, Kokoda, Ko ko dah, Maroubra, a beach side suburb of Sydney, Mar u bra, and Wairopi, named after the bridge suspended on wire ropes, Wire Ropei. Thanks for the series.

At 4:39 there is a grammar issue with General Macarthur's "Info Box". It should say "succeed in retaking". Keep up the great work.. Oh also "fail" should be "failure".

Buna and gona should also be covered. Some of the fiercest fighting of the war occurred there.

@issacmaw3344

Жыл бұрын

It will be. It's just a few more weeks until those battles take place

The Kokoda Track - was just that - a path - not a road. You couldn't use vehicles so it was all either human or animal transport. The Japanese on the way south - never had enough supplies, even though they had pressed some natives into service as bearers. .

You gotta be kidding me a general named blamey blamed someone else.

There was a documentary that i've watched showcased that Eisenhower does indeed served in the Philippines with McArthur before he was chosen to held the position of Supreme Allied Commander in European campaign. I wonder what does Eisenhower thought about McArthur from the time he was in the Philippines until the years of Korean War.

Wishing king and heneral read this can you do more about south asia and South East asia about there history like the first powerful clan in japan or the establishment of colony in the Philippines

im a bit miffed that you didnt mention that the militia were under trained under equipped, they were called "chokos" short for chocolate soldiers and they would quickly melt in the heat of battle, which of course they didnt !

I really like videos about history I will also give you a lot of information about it

The more I study the ground battles in the Pacific, the less I believe McArthur was the right man for the job.

My Grandpa was in the 32nd infantry division "Red Arrow division."

Was in 2rar, we have no love for MacArthur

They dragged wounded men, sick and dying and injured, all that way risking their own lives and those of their casualties, instead of just, you know, surrendering and negotiating with the australian force some way to evacuate them so they could be taken prisoner or even returned to their forces somewhere they'd get medical attention. Never occurred to them to just ask for mercy from their enemy. That's fucking horrifying.

@sjins1poolboy698

Жыл бұрын

Not to say the Australians wouldn't have shown mercy they may have, but when the shoe was on the other foot the Japanese soldiers massacred the wounded Australians at Kokoda so quite possibly fear of retribution drove them on more than not considering the option.

@NELCARM

Жыл бұрын

@@sjins1poolboy698 They also massacred civilians including missionaries at Milne Bay.Beheaded ,bayoneted captured Aussies & raped local women. Not sure surrendering was an option.

@minoru-kk

Жыл бұрын

Already the Japanese realized that it wasn't just revenge, they were seen as beasts than humans. When considered how to deal with vermins, it was natural that never surrender to "hunters."

Yo what was D company doing right before 14:00?

This is easily one of my favourite YT channels. But please, please learn how to pronounce Kokoda properly.

Come on Aussies

Wow

5/5

👍👍

Please consider using the word withdrawl rather than retreat at times.

Kings and generals making star wars vids omw lol

😁👍

What was the Australian army attempting to achieve by advancing past Templeton crossing what strategic operational purpose?

@MarkGoding

Жыл бұрын

Retaking the airfield at Kokoda to retake the north coast of New Guinea.

@davidburland6576

Жыл бұрын

@@MarkGoding thanks it looked foolish but maybe it was the direct route.

@MarkGoding

Жыл бұрын

@@davidburland6576 It was an extraordinary stupid undertaking by the Japanese, who thought there was a road through the mountains they could use rather than a series of jungle tracks that alternated between sweltering valleys and freezing mountain tops. The Japanese had 2 weeks of rations each for a campaign that would ultimately take 2 months and their logistics was horrible... so much so that the Australians found evidence that they had cannibalised their dead when they pushed them back.. this didn't improve the Aussies mood much in a campaign in which mercy was neither given or expected.

@davidburland6576

Жыл бұрын

@@MarkGoding then going back up a jungle trail doesn't make much sense for the Australians either maybe half way but further seems to repeat the hoice the Japanese made.

@MarkGoding

Жыл бұрын

@@davidburland6576 They Japanese had gotten within sight of port Moresby.. They had to be pushed back. The Australians had better supply lines and aerial dominance.. The high-water mark of Japan's pacific advance died at the ridge line of loribaiwa. I'm not going to explain why it was necessary to you. I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

Hey Kings and Generals. Im Jordanian and it would be an honour if you could make a video about the battle of Karameh (1968)