There's one easy solution for this shows problems: Just cut one or two episodes early on in the script stage. So there's less time for filler scenes and the budget doesn't have to be spread too thin. If not, just make it a 2-hour Paramount+ movie instead of a show. Same effect.

@anonymousnobody326

Ай бұрын

Cut that shitty musical.

If Knuckles gets a second season, what if... Knuckles encounters Team Chaotix? Like in their online game debut? Rouge will probably appear in Sonic 3...

@mayracordero382

Ай бұрын

I want the chaotix team in season 2 of knuckles and rouge being on sonic 3 would be great!

@Muteyoshi260

Ай бұрын

And it should be about the wife and her sister trying to find their long lost mom!!!! And she’s a professional soccer player and they have to play against her to win her respect or something!!! And yeah i guess chaotix can be in it.

@mjr0947

Ай бұрын

Wade would work good with team chaotix

@sircasino614

Ай бұрын

Pretty sure they called this a limited series.

@whydowelivejusttosuffer7704

Ай бұрын

​@@sircasino614Thnak fucking god for that, never ever let them do another TV show ever again.

Bruh I died laughing when wades mom n knuckles where fighting in the kitchen and you can just tell it's the moms stunt double lmao

@terreholland29

Ай бұрын

Finally someone mentioned it lmao

@user-fr8gn6ix3z

Ай бұрын

Kitchen fight was hands down one of my favorite moments

@dmk_yt

Ай бұрын

@@user-fr8gn6ix3z Yeah, I thought that scene was really fun

@Marvelfanatic3658

Ай бұрын

​@@terreholland29cringe

@Floof8976

Ай бұрын

Knuckles the Unorthodox Jewish Rabbi Echidna.

Honestly i didn’t mind the Wade story to much as it was a way to connect Knuckles to Wade like how sonic is with Tom. It was an example of how Wade has something he loves about his life on Earth and that involves having personal connections as well. Helps Knuckles learn more about Earth and its values.

@mayracordero382

Ай бұрын

Knuckles sure learn about earth and good people!

@valtheemokid4005

Ай бұрын

Hell I think Wade was the perfect person to introduce Earth culture to Knuckles

@whitneywoods54

Ай бұрын

Same I had so much fun watching this show I hope there’s a season 2

@whitneywoods54

Ай бұрын

And an compliment to the Wade story is basically the show is about knuckles teaching him so it makes sense in ep4 why it would be mostly him because he kinda improves as a character in that episode

@Sone01TheFirst

Ай бұрын

@@whitneywoods54 Yeah no, show barely spends any time(If any at all) having Knuckles teach wade. I think he had a conversation about victory with Wade at the end of episode 2 and then the next time its relevant is episode 4 where his teaching method is "He must save himself(This time)" and then send him to Pachacamac to do the rest. _That's it,_ we're done with that plot at this point. The main premise of the series and its barely there after episode 2 let alone episode 1.

I get the idea that their original plan was scrapped when they decided to make sure the visual effects match the quality of the movies. I would have preferred lower quality CGI than lower quality story.

@Du-yw1pz

Ай бұрын

And the thing with Wade's story is that it could've been done better, it just feels like a boring and watered down version of Po's arc from the first Kung Fu Panda movie where it's about 'a loser and incompetent guy that's looked at as a joke by everyone but they want to become a hero within, so they earn the title and become respected by everyone in the end'.

It would've been better if the climatic bowling alley was videogame-themed Just like they did with Wade's musical, where he was dressed as Knuckles and was "playing" the games

This show really focused on a NPC in a sonic world

@abivalentin8331

Ай бұрын

And that's the problem.

@CosmosGem

Ай бұрын

Lol

@djdrizzy9139

Ай бұрын

Even worse, it's not even Sonic's world, it's the human earth.

@rrratproductions1857

Ай бұрын

sonic's free guy

@Du-yw1pz

Ай бұрын

And he's a comic relief character to and comic reliefs don't do well when the main focus is on them.

Gotta admit as soon as it said “Wade as Knuckles” I admittedly went “oh … that’s why the show is still called Knuckles”

If that mention of an alien in Reno is actually about Shadow, then I'm guessing Shadow's escape pod crash landed there after the Space Colony Ark raid.

@boltthelunarian1405

Ай бұрын

I also thought about that too, perhaps Shadow must've landed on Earth years before Sonic and others' arrival.

@SonicLegends

Ай бұрын

Yeah, so this and both movies mention 50 years ago ref and in the 1st movie some people miss the line from Maddie mentioning how Tom's family has protected Green Hills for 50 years which could imply Tom's father may have been present in seeing Shadow let alone if they were to have it be that he was the one who shot Maria in having worked for the government in the past much like how Sonic X revealed the soldier that killed Maria and the guilt that came from it.

@bluedude7445

4 күн бұрын

Well, use a calculator and subtract 2024 by 50, you get 1974. They are no doubt, teasing THE GOAT

I kid you not my sister stabbed me with a fork on Thanksgiving so that joke was super relatable

@3CFilms

Ай бұрын

😂

25 minutes of 3C talking about his spoiler thoughts on Knuckles 🔥 this is gonna be good 🔥

@bartplays3392

Ай бұрын

The new editing is SO GOOD still

yeah, it definitely just felt like a sidequest more than anything

DO I LOOK LIKE I NEED YOUR POWER

@mayracordero382

Ай бұрын

Knuckles's best line

0:02 Game apologist cameo 🤣 I love old man Nick get mad over this show , bro is one of the biggest knuckles fans in the world I can’t believe the disappointment he felt with this show

I thought rouge or the chaotix would've been in this show back when it was announced lmao

@squirtle7G1

Ай бұрын

Same

My only gripe with the series was that Knuckles was supposed to train Wade in the way of the warrior and yet there was no training what so ever. He had Wade find the warrior within on his own. Overall I enjoyed the series.

@QuickThekidd

Ай бұрын

that was the training to be a warrior in his way, he’s got the strength he just needs to bring it out

OK, is it just me, or do the vocals for that awesome rock and roll music in the final battle sound like Crush 40? Because it would be so awesome if Crush 40, the masters of modern Sonic music, were brought back to do music for Sonic cinematic universe.

Is no one going to talk about how top notch chrises editing is in this vid

Damn bro, I never would have thought about the resemblance until YOU mentioned it, Chris! 😂😂 They're kinda right.

@3CFilms

Ай бұрын

Noooooo lol

The fact wade becomes more aware and he hides from the bounty hunter shows growth

I dont think its terrible but the focus on wade and not knuckles was definitely very disappointing

@Muteyoshi260

Ай бұрын

It was bad lol, there’s bits/conversations that are obviously stretched out because of time and money. It shouldn’t have been made. It’s better off as a tax write off

@Du-yw1pz

Ай бұрын

And another thing with that to, Wade is a comic relief character. He has nothing to work off of other than being the "dumb and incompetent guy that's clumsy" but i think they were trying to go for a plot with him that was similar to Po's arc from the first Kung Fu Panda guy of a "guy who's looked at as a joke by everyone but then becomes a respected warrior hero in the end" but it failed and was VERY boring compared to that.

18:20 Wasn’t it said robotnik was orphan tho, that would be a big coincidence if it is his grandfather

@NigelByrd

Ай бұрын

He probably found out about his grandfather's project since it's been stated that he had a file of project shadow.

It’s sonic fans they don’t like anything until 10 years later

LETS GO EDITOR!! You already found a good sweet spot for balancing visuals with Chris’ handsome mug. The inclusion of the live Chris reaction bubble is kinda funny but a very nice inclusion. We see you adapting to criticism good stuff 👏

I love these long videos! Thank u Chris!!

Thx for taking my feedback Chris with the editing suggestions for the new editor. It's much much better now. U should definitely keep them on, it's a really good balance now. And also, great video.

Love The Quality Of Your Vids

23:18 the fact that it was exactly 50 years ago is further evidence to suggest that is is Shadow, cuz canonically his story happened 50 years before the main timeline more or less, which today would be 2024. I always thought that line was weird, I genuinely am surprised it flew over my head like that 😂

@Sone01TheFirst

Ай бұрын

Everyone already knows that Shadow is in Sonic Movie 3 so its a very nothing teaser, only noteworthy to anyone who is not already familiar with the Sonic Series.

This show feels like a KZread sketch, and I love that

@spiritandtimeakalilroachie7014

Ай бұрын

It's what you call a live action cartoon

Bro this new editing style is dope

@shumberrr

Ай бұрын

fr

It’s seems you didn’t pay attention to the backstory for the buyer enough, because he said that me met “a little blue alien” so it’s very clear that he’s talking about Ivo.

I bet there was some studio interference with this show demanding more humans. Or this was a case of false advertising

@peterrealar2.067

Ай бұрын

There needs to be a mandate where the director can veto corporate's interference. Because they've had some *BAD* ideas.

Great editing cris I can tell it’s getting good

11:59 Missed opportunity to call this the Daredevil scene of Knuckles

In my opinion the show is not bad but its not amazing as a sonic fan i had alot of fun with the show but its not the worst show ever it is enjoyable.

@joeldean2706

Ай бұрын

I'm the same. It was enjoyable and I had fun. It's not the worst, I wanted it to amazing too. But for something to watch in the meantime for Sonic movie 3. It was enjoyable.

@Du-yw1pz

Ай бұрын

I liked it to. And matter of a fact this also felt like Knuckles' version of the first movie to since Both had an animal who was a fish out of water with earth and trying to learn how it was go on a road trip with their human companion. Both had the animal and the human companion bond over time to. Both the animal and the human are on the run from the bad guy(s) who want the animal's power Both had the animal meet the human guy's family(Sonic meeting Tom's sister in law and his niece, and Knuckles meeting Wade's sister and mom) Both had the animal during the final battle learn that he has to now fight for his family and the home he lives in. (It even felt similar to the final battle from the first movie to).

Honestly this should’ve been animated cause yeah the series was held back its budgets.

The problem with episode four is that its a show about a CGI character that trains another character his ways of the echidna,but they knew thes were limited. And i get CGI is expensive,but if u cant afford the character to appear through the whole show and be overshadowed by side characters in the universe. Also its the fact that if u remove episode four, nothing changes. Its still the same show because Wade didn't really have anything else to show other than the final fight scene where he just throws bowls at the main villain.If your reading this and didn't watch the knuckles show i recommend skipping episode 4 but if u want to go through the whole series then good luck surviving through the whole episode

Love that your back Cris! Where'd you go?

It was great when the focus was on Knuckles, but when they shifted the focus to Wade it was like I just don’t care about his story and family.

@spiritandtimeakalilroachie7014

Ай бұрын

You're just a cold individual

*KNUCKLES NEVER FREAKING TRAINED WADE!* What the actual f*** is wrong with these writers?!!

20:50 those back to back split diopter shots made me totally geek out, doing the Leo Dicaprio finger point thing

Awesome video 3c films 😊

Dude your editing skills only continue to improve! Def my favorite KZread channel, Daddy Chris for life

'worst piece of Sonic Media' I guess everyone forgot 'Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric' existed

@cinegoth4144

Ай бұрын

Or Sonic ‘06 with that weird princess and horrifying graphics.

I like how I immediately knew that was nick's tweet at the beginning

8:33 that frame!🤣

Amazing Vid Chris. Keep it up 👍🏼

Love the new edits

I honestly did not realize how much people hated this show. Everyone I've talked to irl or outside of Twitter loved it 😕

@3CFilms

Ай бұрын

And that all that matters! Some people just exaggerate lol

They wanted so hard to be Alan Wake 2

So about the knuckles show and what I think, I personally think it's really fun and I like it alot. However, all the negatives to the show could have been solved with two solutions: one, make at least 8 or even 10 episodes. or two make the 6 episodes an hour long each. The first option would be the balance between the Knuckles and Wade stuff, because like four of the episodes is mostly on Wade while episodes 1 and 4(kind of) focus more on Knuckles so there would be a bigger equal number amount of episodes each about the two characters. For option two, every episode each being an hour long will give an equal amount of screen time to the two main characters. ( I was expecting this option and it should've happened ) Are the options expensive? Yes, but if possible in using the money they already had to make the show any negative would just be a nip pick. Maybe when the Knuckles show gets a possible season 2 more they make another spin-off show about a specific Sonic character this kind of stuff can be improved especially if it features a lot of human characters. That's all I have to say on the matter.

I think the pros and cons of the show can be captured with two specific facts 1: The tone and vibe of this show most resembles The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog but if it had been a life-action hybrid animation instead of all animated. Scratch and Grounder now work for GUN instead of Robotnik. 2: For a show title "Knuckles" very little of the plot is about Knuckles. To be fair, I'm sure a lot of the issue is because they wanted to play off the Sonic 3 and Knuckles gag, they know Knuckles is the best selling point they had to offer, and the cost of the live-action hybrid is way higher than doing the equivalent written story in the form of Sonic X or something. Buuuut, that kinda leads to the question of "why not just have the whole thing be animated?" which like, clearly they want to do live action to catch a broader audience. But the logistics may be doing them more harm than help? Overall I enjoyed the show, but also I kinda enjoyed it because I opened it up on a side screen while I was working on other stuff and promptly forgot it was supposed to be "The Knuckles Show" and not "Sonic Movie 2.5".

I loved the show but wished for more knuckles, loved how they featured my hometown Reno.

8:01 That part. Had me in tears.I was laughing so hard because of the song.And then the slow motion of him getting blow back

I mean that guy did say it was the worst HE ever experienced... Maybe he just hadn't experienced that much Sonic media

It is definitely not the worst out of the sonic franchise, though if I had to say something about Bad about it. It needed a little more action. And it focused a little too much on Wade, not that I had a problem with that. Just knuckles wasn't always a part of it, which was a shame

I honestly didn’t think it was that bad.. it was very fun to me. Knuckles was so adorable especially at the end when he was going up the elevator with his hat 🥺 Edit: I can’t wait to see Rogue and Omega introduced Edit 2: Episode 4 was my least favorite too. I actually fell asleep on that episode

@joeldean2706

Ай бұрын

Same I fought it was enjoyable and I had fun. But yeah episode 4 was my least favourite of the show, so much so I skip some of it to the part where Wade gives Knuckles his hat. But I enjoyed my time and now I'm just waiting for Sonic 3 to be here ! Hopefully the trailer will be here soon.

Awesome review Chris 👍

I swear this happens every time when a Paramount Sonic project comes out. People somehow bloat their expectations into thinking the next thing will be a profound masterpiece but then freak out when it’s just ok.

🤔 Since Sonic basically has Tom & Maddie, now Knuckles has Wade, I wonder about Tails could he get a spinoff with him & Maddie’s sister and her daughter, also I liked the Robotnik/G.U.N. connection, because remember in the first movie Robotnik had a bunch of agents with him besides Stone, which Robotnik worked for a covert government agency they would call in for certain circumstances

I love tke new editing style chris.

This wasn't a show about Knuckles, this was a show about Wade featuring Knuckles Like Terry Crews would say: Oh the deception!! The betrayal 😭😭

Got done wacthing it, and had to hear your opinion on it. My main complaint was pretty much too much human screen time, but the cool thing about how they used Chief "Mac" is now we know how Tikal would appear, and interact with the rest of the cast in the later installments. Lastly I could see the tensity of whenever Rouge the Bat and Shadow the Hedgehog relationship could be with G.U.N. with how humans view them as threats and not living creatures with wills and rights to live (which could be explored in Sonic Movie 3). Last stretch, I thought that demon looked familiar it's so nice SEGA and Sonic Team can acknowledge Sonic 06. Here's to Blaze and Silver appearing one day in a movie or all out series! I wonder if that wall will ever be fixed, or will it become a running gag in the series! XD Overall, a 3.5/5 stars

Love your videos!

The ring portal gun was such a cheap shot to use on Knuckles after the fight in the bowling alley, I was so damn mad 😂

If you had never pointed out that comparison between you and wade, I never would have noticed. GG 3WFilms

Tails could have easily been called to help Wade as Tails has the same voice as he does in the games

"Worst piece of Sonic media" and it's just a fine Knuckles show that may go too far with the human plot Maybe bad Sonic media, but not bad media, it's quite well made, except the character of Wanda, that's unforgivable

@3CFilms

Ай бұрын

lol agreed

What kills me about this show is exactly how I feel about a lot of movies or tv shows that have an animated main character.... the humans take 80% of the screen time...

@rain1676

26 күн бұрын

Yep

So, what you’re telling me is the Knuckles series is actually more like The Big Lebowski or Kingpin? WHAT???!!!!!

Great Review!👍

My favorite part was when he said “it’s knuckling time” and knuckled all over the place

@ethanhunt5243

Ай бұрын

Shut up

@cameronpritchett8300

Ай бұрын

That joke is old and needs to be dropped

@Grim3600

Ай бұрын

Overused

I have never seen the series but the way you explain episode 4 made me say wtf is going on (420 vibes) 😂😂😂. @22:10 Bowling Tournament 🎳 😅😂

Robotnic did say a lesser man would die here, so yeah

The final robot battle looks like a discount rhino from amazing spider man 2

i like pachacamac’s inclusion. he doesn’t have much of a characterization in all of sonic media and i was pleased with the way they did it.

I honestly enjoyed it. I like Wade and Knuckles did have some progression learning how to call Earth home.

It wasn’t amazing but calling it the worst is so exaggerated. Btw how would you feel about a tails spin-off show?

@naitsabes6222

Ай бұрын

They would make it about Racheal 😂

@JesseKuhn-tg9qh

Ай бұрын

@@naitsabes6222nah, they’d make it about the random mailman from the first world of the Knuckles show💀

@joeldean2706

Ай бұрын

Definitely not the worst, but not amazing. I think it was enjoyable.

@CosmosGem

Ай бұрын

​@JesseKuhn-tg9qh well after knowing wade was a random character in the movies, I can see the mailman being the next person

@CosmosGem

Ай бұрын

​@@naitsabes6222or worse, her sister

I actually liked Wade. The only problem was that there was too much Wade and not enough Knuckles. While Wade is a likable character on his own, I came for Knuckles, not Wade.

I skipped the whole musical part i just couldnt do it

The. Fight from the 3rd episode. Looks. Like. TMNT mutant. Mayhem movie. Fight were they go. Andfind. Clues. For. Superfluous!

My question is, did Knuckles kill Iblis, or is Knuckles the vessel of Iblis like how Elise was in Sonic 06 if so it must be why Knuckles isn't as sentimental considering if he cries Iblis is released. Makes you wonder, since Iblis is here where the hell is Mephiles

Fun fact -wade’s mom is played by Stockard Channing Rizzo from the grease movie

11:58 That was so cool.I think this might be my first time seeing something like that

been waiting on your spoiler review literally had no time to watch it

In 2019 you were on a video where paramount showed all the fan reactions To Sonic’s new design

The animation quality was spectacular. The villains and action scenes; phenomenal. I honestly feel like they could have balanced out the Wade family thing, and the Wade training with Knuckles. Not to mention have Wade at least learn one new thing from Knuckles, in every episode. Then apply that to the finale. Also, the way Knuckles could've started to train Wade, could've been written better. All in all, the concept was excellent on paper. The writing is in the grey. The execution, was 60/40, at most.

Donut lord got sent to the void and is gonna team up with Deadpool n wolverine before returning to help defeat shadow

Great review

I 💯% agree with you Chris on your spoiler review of Knuckles. At least flashbacks from his days with his tribe would have been so much better.

I like the new editing

Cgi is expensive, especially cgi that stands the test of time. It's either we get worse cgi but better story or the opposite. That's why I love the focus on practical effects in movies. Look at lotr vs hobbit.

If they do a season 2, it needs to be Knuckles encounter with Rouge the bat and the two of them embarking on adventures with comical support from Wade

8:52 They did her character so well. She made me miss my mom and grandma

I think that the reason why knuckles was not in all of the scenes in the show because it was way too expensive to keeping him in the scenes

Missed oppurtunity to have the agent kicked into the mushroom zone come back or get a scene at the end finding out his name is Gunagent same as one wade and his sister made up lol

During episode 5 and the start of 6. I just remember thinking to myself, where is Knuckles? Which is concerning slightly but still somewhat enjoyable.

Maybe that alien appearing in the 90s could be Amy rose

@SonicLegends

Ай бұрын

Er no, because they say 1974 (another 50 years ago ref like in the movies) which implies if anything Shadow when his escape pod probably landed around that area.

11:21 actually there's two Keanu Reeves references. If you pause at the moment when knuckles enters Wade's childhood bedroom you can see on the shelf thats on the left side of the door you can see two of the Matrix movies.

This could have been better as a movie in a way