I purchased the Knox Urbane Pro Mk3 in July 2023. I’m a weekend warrior and I’ve put less than 40 hours of use on my jacket when the cuffs began to fray. I wrote the company directly as well as sending photos, to which they responded , that the frayed cuffs were a result of repeated abrasion from gloves, or likely wear from the Velcro closure on gloves. They said that they would not replace the jacket or refund my money. I was disappointed to say the least, particularly when “abrasion resistance“ is the company’s advertisement lead. Clearly, the material used at the cuffs is flimsy at best, and inconsistent with the durability of the rest of the jacket. I pride myself on taking meticulous care of my equipment, and for the company to suggest that the use of gloves on a motorcycle jacket caused this premature wear and damage is ridiculous and outrageous. These companies have a captive audience as well as regulatory capture to inflate their prices, and to advertise an abrasion resistant armored shirt that is now literally falling apart at the seams after less than 40 hours of use is shameful.

I would ditch the rain shell. Front zippered rain shell would make easy in and out access. Also more vented when not raining. I would provide option ( price ) of Tor jacket without your rain shell. Most of use already have a rain top and bottom.

I've had an urbane pro for a few years now. It's good but it's more for urban riding. It's not great at anything, and isn't especially good in the heat or when laying up in the cold. It also lacks stretch (the mesh isn't stretchable). IMO the REVIT Protector Nucleus jacket is way better for adventure riding, in the heat, and laying in the cold.This new Tor looks like does improve a little on the Urbane Pro MK2 and Honister. Not sure it goes far enough though. As for having the armour closer to the body. It is better for protection for poorer for ventilation, or heating when using heated gear.

@bsueu72949

5 күн бұрын

Hey man, hows the Revit Nucleus better than the Urban Pro MK2? they both seem to be designed quite similarly and sit close to the body. thanks for your insights

I have been using the urban pro kit off road. It's great. Not sure about the price on this. I guess its good for a jacket. It does fell a bit like ADV tax though at £400.

@bryanparsons

3 ай бұрын

That is a big jump for some pockets and a cheap waterproof shell

Howdy! Thanks for doing a pretty solid video on this, I'm a pretty similar build to you (just shy of 42" chest, fairly athletic), but have always found the Urbane series to be heavy and ill fitting for my build. A large was always too small, and a XL big and the protector dragged the zipper into my neck. Does this fit lighter and move easier in comparison? Do you happen to have the actual weights for any of the sizes? I see on your site you say a L is a 40-42, is that what you found to be the best fit at your proportions? Thanks!

@AdventureRiderMoto

3 ай бұрын

Hi Thanks for asking as this does need some clarification. I was in a pre production sample so it didn't want to talk too much about sizing as it can vary from the final article. In this case, now that we have the product we are going to amend our size guide slightly. As you note we have found the Urbane Pro fits smaller than Knox say and so have done our own guide for that product. However, the Tor is lighter, more stretchy and a little more generous. I am just over a 40 chest and the Medium is a perfect fit. We are going to correct our size guide to mirror Knox's advice on this one. For you, the Large shoudl fit perfectly with a 42 chest. - Andrew

@cblais19

3 ай бұрын

@@AdventureRiderMoto Super helpful, still anticipating start of April for the grey?

Have I missed it in video? What is outer material: softshell, oxford, cordura....?

@AdventureRiderMoto

4 ай бұрын

Constructed with high tenacity breathable nylon and spandex for stretch. As with most things Knox do, it's their own fabric blend rather than an off the shelf blend. - Andrew

I think it's nice, but those front pockets plus the chest protector will make it bulky. I like my MK II because I just put one of my jerseys and chest protector and it's ready to go. Hopefully, Knox will come up with something more streamlined for off-road focus.

@AdventureRiderMoto

3 ай бұрын

It's hard to convey 'feel' in the video but I feel like this is less bulky than the Urbane Pro even with the pockets. The material is very different. - Andrew

Why would they put pockets that seem like they’re don’t allow air through on the chest?

@AdventureRiderMoto

2 ай бұрын

They restrict it slightly but the overall weight is very light anyway. I wear a backpack so there are usually straps over this area anyway so in that sense it doesn't really make a difference. I do think it would be great to have an option made of exactly this material but with no pockets(the Urbane Pro which doesn't have pockets is slightly different in material), so people can go for the plain option if they prefer. I'll feedback to Knox. They're pretty good at listening to riders - Andrew

Like my Urbane Pro, just wish it had pockets.

@AdventureRiderMoto

4 ай бұрын

Excellent; problem solved! - Andrew

Still no 4x size? I have an urbane pro mk3 4x size, and would like to order the TOR if it came w a 4X size

@AdventureRiderMoto

2 ай бұрын

They go up to 5XL but are temporarily sold out. More drops will be coming. If you contact us directly at adventure rider we'll be able to tell you exactly when they are coming and assist with placing an order. - Andrew

Isn't the Adventurespec Supershirt better as a base layer?

@AdventureRiderMoto

Ай бұрын

They do similar things at similar prices. For me the Knox has the advantage because it works just as well as a base layer but serves better as an outer layer by itself whereas you'd at least need an mx jersey over the Supershirt or it would look a bit odd. The Knox also includes the waterproof so is more of a complete solution. I've not extensively tried the Supershirt though.

What is wrong with ugly right sleeve logo? Heat gun? Hot iron? Acid? Horse bite?

This shell doesn't really work for motorcycle use. Why would I want to take my helmet off to equip this? Get my head wet, so that my torso stays dry? :) Also, hoods are mandatory. We eventually reach our destination. And then what? Take out the other shell that actually has a hood? This flaw also disqualifies some otherwise excellent shells like the Scott Ergo. Foldable, zippable, velcroable hoods have been a thing for decades. Some moto gear vendors need to catch up.

@AdventureRiderMoto

2 ай бұрын

Ideally I would have the jacket sold on its own with a slight price saving, then people can choose what sort of waterproof layer they want. There are benefits from this approach but also downsides as you mention. If you prefer a zipped option with a hood, Knox have the Welbeck which is what I have been using with the Tor and I think works better, personally. - Andrew

@ezsteel78

2 ай бұрын

@@AdventureRiderMoto The Welbeck actually looks good, although it would probably benefit from a brighter higher viz color option like red/orange/yellow. Not sure why Knox keep avoiding bright colors in their lineup. Might be cause they are leaning towards the fashion side rather than functionality? Most enduro/offroad equipment is bright for a reason, as is most wilderness and mountaineering gear, and many of us doing dual sport/adv think that improved visibility is important.

Wow nice but too expensive. Stick w my MK

I know it’s subjective but I think it’s too expensive. Good idea though 👍

What about porky guys?

@AdventureRiderMoto

4 ай бұрын

One of our, dare I say, 'porkier' colleagues tried it the other day in a 2XL (generally a big guy) and it looked great (his words). The stretch is massive so it should be less of an issue than with most jackets - Andrew

Nice jacket, and would have bought it, if not for these awful unnecessary clash on pockets, that destroys a good design. There is no need for putting things in front pockets, that destroys movability!

@AdventureRiderMoto

3 ай бұрын

Fair enough, perhaps they'll do a stripped down version at some point. These are very slick so you don't really notice them under a pack / vest but obviously, style-wise there always on show. - Andrew

Price is spot on. Cheap skates comments clearly dont buy quality products.

Urbane is pronounced just like urban. Forget the e is there. Not even sure why they added it. lol