To me those Vamplier pliers there and their smaller counterparts are pretty much specific to removing screws "head on". And, I must say, that they do very well. I have the particular set you demo in the video here and it saved my.bacon while dismantling the carbs on a GPZ 750. Previous owner had loctited the screws. I got all of them out without drilling or extractors, etc. I used that Vampliers screw extractor plier on several of them.

I bought those Twin Grip and love them. I probably didn’t “need” them, but I wanted them since I saw their reveal video. I’ll carry them with me and they come in handy for a variety of tasks (taking out screws, batter lugs, just grabbing things in general, etc). If you’re a pro, the Twin Grip or a hardcore DIYer, I have no problem recommending the Knipex. If you’re more of a “here and there” kind of tool user, they’re probably a bit pricey for you.

Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I keep my Twin Grips in my standard left pouch set-up as my only pliers and they come in handy often.

Awesome. I'll wait for the 6" TwinGrip. Thanks!

@gonzaga3c

5 ай бұрын

And we’re still waiting😂

@WilliamBrown-bg7vm

Ай бұрын

Still waiting😂

Knipex company sent you the pliers you recommended to advertise them. The bolted profile you tested was sent to other KZreadrs to advertise it. That's why it wasn't a fair promotional video. Knipex may be suitable for large screws and bolts, but engineer's pliers perform better for small embedded screws.

Very good video. I have the engineer pliers, identical to the vampliers, and the knipex twingrip. I totally agree with you, knipex twingrip has very sharp and durable teeths very similar to the knipex cobra. My favorite tool right now. I love how knipex improved every little detail, including teeth geometry, angles.

There's a youtuber that did a video on vampliers. Apparently the first people to do the teeth on the front was an American company back in the 1950's or something. The patent was eventually sold/bought by engineer in japan, and you know the rest of the story. There's another company that makes similar pliers as vampliers called 3 peaks, and their design seems more efficient. They also harden their pliers more than vamplier/engineer to about the same hardness as knipex's version.

Hey Tim great video as always! Also if you didn’t know the Vampliers are just re-branded, they are made by Engineer.

@timsworkshop85

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know, thanks!

That's very good comparison. I am already using the Knipex Twingrip. It is in my daily work bag. Recently, i also thought of buying the Vamplier. I think i stick with my Twingrip now.

I own the Knipex & the PROTO pliers on your video and I love the Knipex but I go for the PROTO 99% off the time. For me it’s the comfort of the handle & the ability to really put some force without any discomfort plus the thin profile really comes in handy. I love these pliers.

@stauker.1960

Жыл бұрын

You'll be happy to know they're just rebranded Wilde Tool pliers

I have both the Engineer and the Knipex. I favor the knipex. I also have a pair of Snap-on pistol grip with the straight on gripping. Great vid

Vise Grip needs to come out with something like this. Jaw design like the Knipex or Vampliers, but with the locking capability. That would be great.

@timsworkshop85

Жыл бұрын

I agree 👍

@Ranger-ly5qf

Жыл бұрын

Vampliers/ engineer already has screw extraction Vise grips in their line up. Go check them out

👍 thank you for making this video

agree Cobras first but for a pair of combination pliers that nail extractor is pretty cool. Id say combination pliers are my least use plier. In order of use. Cobra's, Linesman, slip joint, plier wrench. I use to use a 20 year old pair of channellock slip joints for years then lost them and replaced them with what I thought was the same plier but they where so far from the same. so stiff you needed two hands to open them up or slide them over, I went out and bought the twin grips and have been blown away. The arrived fully broke in.

The Vampliers front gripping ability is not new. Gas pliers have the ability to grip from the front and have been around for probably 100 years or so. Enjoyed the video. Thanks!

I have both the vampires and the twin grip Knipex. I find the Knipex is much easier to open and close the vampires are very stiff and hurt my hands to use them. So those go into the second-hand plier drawer

The vamplier isn’t made to take off a bolt from the side

I have both vamps and knipex let me say the vamps are for striped screws and they grab small screws better than the knipex and knipex grab bolts better those vamps are priceless when you need them they are only ment for loosening the screw then put them away till you need them again not for bolts use a socket or wrench for bolts

@bulshavix6

2 ай бұрын

I use the vampliers every day and the twin grips don’t compare. Those are not the best vampliers either. The groove lock vampliers are way better than those Neji saurus ones

I think using the slip joint Vampliers VT-001-7SJ might be a better comparison since the one you have looks like the Vampliers lineman's type. I don't know if it would make a difference in the results, however.

Good video

My only regret about my twin grip pliers is I did not get the comfort grip handles! As long as they make the handles for their pliers I want to comfort handles they make a huge difference.

Love the twin grips. I leep it on me always.

I don’t think you are doing a fair review . The vamp pliers are just not for big screws like that . They are for stripped out Phillips head screws . You put these tools against the twin grips and a display that Knipex sent with the pliers . Of course it is going to benefit the knipex . With that screw display I can use the cobras to get those bolts/ screws out . I do think the knipex pliers are good but you should do a fair review. The vamp pliers are a better tool at the job they are meant for , unscrewing stripped screws .

Prior to getting my Twin Grip Knipex, I hadn't grabbed a conventional pair of Slip Join pliers in years. Now I find myself grabbing the Twin Grip even over my Cobra's and small Vampliers when the job demands clamping force because with the Cobra's, the angled jaws are more adept to pipe type applications where the Twin Grip are just so much more versatile at getting cammed out screws or rounded bolts loose, and you're right Tim, how they leverage is just worlds above any "slip joint" type pliers I've had. Cheers! Zip~

If I could only have one of those I’d go with the Cobra ones😂…. Followed by them Channel Lock needle nose you showed us😂😂😂 Point is those hand tools are for the guys (like me) with 20 different other pairs

The Vampliers are intended for you to attack from the top down not the side!

The Vampliers are actually Engineer Pliers, rebranded Vampire tools. And they are for Screw extraction not for bolts.

@loganward2621

2 жыл бұрын

They look like Lineman pliers more than a wrench? Seems like an unfair comparison.

@KimballPrecisionRifles

2 жыл бұрын

@@loganward2621 the ones in the video are more of a lineman style plier. They do make slip joint pliers that are pretty nice, but don’t have the shear that’s common on slip joint pliers.

Knipex is the Holy Grail of hand tools. In the US Klein is top notch

Vampliers aka engineer make different versions of pliers with better teeth. To be honest, what pliers can compare to knipex?

Did you know that the screw removing abilities actually came from American gas and burner pliers from probably the 1920s in the 1950s I'm guessing. They're available on eBay

@bulshavix6

2 ай бұрын

I have about 3 pairs of gas burner/ dual contact point pliers from the 1920-1950’s

EXACTLY! Vampliers' teeth are questionable. Question: why are they cheaply made and dent so effortlessly?

@timsworkshop85

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I was kinda surprised at the condition of the teeth after the test.

Would have liked to see which one was better at extracting the smaller screws from the front; thats what Vampliars are designed for.

@timsworkshop85

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe I'll have to do a contest between just the Vamplier and the Knipex.

@arnoldramos39

2 жыл бұрын

@@timsworkshop85 yes that would be greatly appreciated as that would be my primary reason for purchasing either one of these tools 👍👍

@bulshavix6

2 ай бұрын

I have done that test lots of times and the groove lock vampliers always win for the most grip w the least access. The harbor freight pistol grip screw extraction pliers work better than the twin grips too for screws. I thought the twin grips would be the ones I would carry but I had to get the vampliers over and over again because the twin grips just didn’t work. Now the twin grips have been retired to the pliers drawer. You can see in the video the neji saurus ones don’t work like their slip joint ones because even though they are bigger they don’t have the right angle

The vampliers are great for getting hold of damaged screws or anything that is rounded. You are not using them for the correct purpose. As in your comments snap on make the same style only in pistol grip, great for for purpose they were made for too.

It was the Japanese company “Lobtex” that first came up with the screw removing plier style

The Knipex look good, and having the option to spread quite wide is useful. They don't cut. The Proto pliers look very good. They cut. I like that shape of handle. And look heavy enough to act as a bad hammer. USA made, too.

Vampire pliers where not made for that range of screws and bilts so of course they will not work

I have the wilde version of those pliers. They are my favorite slip joints.

Sería excelente que esas knipex 82 01 200 tengan el botón de posiciones, más cerca de las Mordazas, para lograr un mayor apriete en las puntas frontales, cómo las pinzas "alta palanca".

Seems like the Knipex pliers are just straight head Cobra’s…

utica gas burner pliers ve Vampire pliers

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The twingrip and vamplier are meant for tool enthusiasts. Slip joint pliers are meant to be something you reach for when you don't have something better nearby or don't feel like going out to the garage or workshop to get the correct tool for the job. There is usually a better tool for whatever you are doing when using slip joint pliers. Once in a blue moon this type of plier is the best tool, but does that justify the cost of getting the expensive twingrip or vamplier? Only if you are a tool enthusiast and having it makes you happy. Then it is worth it. There might be a few people who would benefit from owning the twingrip or vamplier every day, but not enough of them to justify the financial expenditure it took for the companies to design and release them. They're for enthusiasts who love tools. I have the 6-inch and 8-inch Wilde pliers (mfr of those Protos). They make me happy because they are nicely made in the usa and when I need them they work. If they don't work I make the trip to my toolbox for the right tool.

@timsworkshop85

2 жыл бұрын

I will say that the Knipex TwinGrip (and Vamplier) are for more of a professional work. And yes, the Proto slip joint pliers are more than enough for at home and even on the job. With that being said, the longer I work in the electromechanical maintenance field I can really appreciate the Knipex TwinGrip plier for its design and function. The Vamplier almost seems gimmicky compared to the Knipex TwinGrip plier.

@LilasTools

2 жыл бұрын

@@timsworkshop85 I think the Vampliers being a combination pliers/small linesman would be great for a carpenter- to cut wire, pull nails/screws and just grab things. Just my thoughts!

@paedahe4975

2 жыл бұрын

@Jnes01 I totally agree! 👍

@THETANKGINGER

2 жыл бұрын

Disagree. Service work in any trade would love these pliers

@paedahe4975

2 жыл бұрын

I think the screw-remover pliers were originally made for computer techs as the screws were very small and are made of soft metal that strips easily. Now everyone likes them even if they are professional and tend not to strip fasteners.

Okay I wasn't going to comment but this video kind of annoyed me not trying call you out or anything but I have to say it you're comparing lineman pliers to two pairs of slip joint pliers you're really comparing apples and oranges the vampires are not made for your trying to use them for

Absolute crap review - try knipex on screws. Purchase PZ56.

@nealjt13

2 жыл бұрын

Lol who went poopie in Cheerios