Knife Making: Making a Generational Knife from a File
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In todays video I make a #Knife from a file that belonged to my Grandfather. The knife is a hidden tang knife and the handle material is made form ironwood, micarta, and G10. I also talk about my new 2x72 belt grinding as well as my new forge. Please feel free to ask any comments Below.
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dude for such a small channel with less than 20k subs you made content worth millions of subs
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
I truly appreciate the kind words Moody!
Grinding of the guard was very satisfying, another great video brother!
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro. We need to finish up shooting that footage
@joshuawhite8256
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wengelsworkshop Absolutely, so many more shots I want to get
I dig it man, making an heirloom knife is always a special thing.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I cant wait to see the finished product of the 2 knives you are working on now!
@michaelsteinmann529
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, also taking the grinders guard off, is also very special.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it was given to me without a guard, but yeah go ahead and make assumptions.
@michaelsteinmann529
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wengelsworkshop so? why use it? just because it was a gift? you realize that young folk is watching your vids and learning from them, do you?
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
My videos are the story of my build not a how too. Using all of these tools comes with extreme danger and I label it as such under KZread guidelines. My video get uploaded as "not for kid" as well. Using a grinder without a guard is not the most unsafe thing in this. The buffing wheel can be far more dangerous but I don't see you bjtching about that. But you seem like the type that needs to bjtch, so bjtch away. I don't mind.
Good job, you gave your Grandad's file a new life. Thanks for sharing and giving some valuable tips and for being open about your mistakes, it makes the rest of us that are also not perfect feel better and more hopeful for our own projects 😉. Don't worry about the structural integrity of the handle, it will hold up perfectly. Thank you.
Well done. This was my first visit. You do a very nice job on your video and I appreciate your mistakes too. We all make them and learn from them. I learned from yours, hopefully 😊 Thanks
Thanks for the shout out! Great knife! ⚡️⚡️⚡️
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Of course man! I appreciate what you do for the community
Impressed 👍
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Really nice knife
@Wengelsworkshop
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Nice build its neat repurposing a family tool into an heirloom !
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steven!
Good job, brother! Glad to see you got 2x72 and new forge! That will change your game for sure!
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! they have definitely been awesome!
What a beautiful job, great looking knife, but more importantly to me is your narration, I.e , explaining the process!
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you John!
When you were useing that grinder with no gard gave me flashbacks to when I cut my knee open
Nice Good Job
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ralph!
BEAUTIFUL knife ! That is the exact blade shape I LOVE !!
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Maine woods!
Thank you for walking me through what you are doing. I got a couple of good tips.
@Wengelsworkshop
Жыл бұрын
No problem Charles. I'm glad it was helpful
Well dude you've got my vote. Finally there is a knife making a video that is near rated!
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you John!
Beautiful knife, just Beautiful .
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Wish I could find someone who makes belt grinders around my area. I'd love to have one like that. Beautiful knife too.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Great job, it's beautiful
Your mistake adds character to this lovely family creation. Well done
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Vidgeoable!
wonderful workshop
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks agian A1!
Bellissimo, complimenti e saluti dall'Italia!
Awesome job.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. Oz!
It's not flawless, but that's what makes it unique! Good job.
You, sir, are brilliant.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks you Boe!
Turned out to be a beautiful knife great work.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you James!
Nice video. It allows the viewer to understand your thinking while watching your progress. Also, a beautiful knife in the end.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
thanks mike! glad you enjoyed it
Beautiful knife!
@Wengelsworkshop
11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
👍👍 an excellent design. A quality leather sheath appeals to me more.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
For sure!
Beautiful.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Spencer!
Bello completi. Bravo.
Very well made! Chapeau!
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Great video and I totally dig the knife.
@Wengelsworkshop
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Love this Knife
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Reysub!
I have a huge file my dad wants made into a bowie knife, this video gave me a bit more confidence in doing it. Great video.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stephen! I am not an expert but if you have any question i would be more than happy to help.
What a Beautiful knive. I love the handle 😲. Keep going 👍🏻 You deserve more views!
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you two right hands!
Good looking knife i admire the skills you have developed and applied to making a like from your grandfather to yourself and future generations of youe family. Take care, God bless one and all.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you wolfman!
My absolute favoriteeeee
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks babe!
really nice work! thank you for inspiration, I was thinking about using a file as material so I was happy when I saw this video )))
Knife from file,.. amazing
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kreasi!
Beautiful work. And a great video all together. Talking us through it helps more than you realize. I’ve been wondering if those Amazon forge’s work and haven’t been able to find anyone that will talk about it… question answered! Thank you!👏🏻🤜🏻💥
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words JD!
@jameshoffman1842
Жыл бұрын
Mine also...
Beautiful knife bro 👍 thank you very much for sharing a great educational video.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
No problem! Thanks for watching
Excelente maestro
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Gracias Roberto!
Beautiful knife!!! 👌👌👌👍👍👍
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Again!
Nice one. 👍
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Msa!
This was really nice, it turned wayyyy super cooler in appearance than i thought great vid sir.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
Good job brother. Good luck with rest of your projects
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tony!
That knife is Beautiful
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
good job 👍
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Dude congrats on this video taking off! Awesome build man! Ken's custom iron sells tong blanks that are super fun to build.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you man! I will definitely check out Kens customs
love it lad
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Alfie!
Ficou excelente 👏👏👏👏
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Obrigado Joeudes!
Parabéns ficou linda 👏🏻❤
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Obrigada Augusto!
Extraordinario trabajo, felicitaciones! Gracias por compartirlo!!! Saludos desde Colombia!
@Wengelsworkshop
Жыл бұрын
¡Gracias!
Beautiful work . You definitely brought new life to your grandfather’s old file .
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gary!
Nice knife 👍 I like it. Actually had plans to build that exact 2x72 also, but have way too many irons in the fire right now. Maybe next year lol
Nice work :)
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Parabéns pela bela e linda faca vc e um gênio
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
obrigada
Super
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
EXCELENTE TRABAJO 👍😃SALUDOS DESDE COLOMBIA
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Herman!
Nice ... I made my first knife a couple of weeks back.. literally by hand, i had 1 file an 18v grinder and an oil stone.. I used a brass arm from an old ball valve and part of an old sledge hammer stale for the handle.. ended up in hospital with a really bad cut.. too eager to sharpen, but completed. Absolutely over the moon. New project starts this weekend, deer antler handle. My wife is already bored with me lol
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Man thats awesome! it really is a great feeling to make a knife, especially with very minimal tools. Obviously be careful and take your time in the shop.
nice video
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
magnifique j adore
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Merci!
Tremendous
Great Job! I wish you made a bigger tanto out of that file.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nizar! I had a hard time cutting off the end. however i wanted it to be a knife i would use all the time. and a large Tanto is not that. however i have another large file that is going to be a tanto so look out for that in the future!
@nizardargham
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wengelsworkshop I will Sir. I’m supporting your channel and great craftsmanship. Respect from Beirut! 🙂
I’ve made the same mistake of grinding into the tang channel so don’t feel alone. Another trick you might try, (before hardening and tempering) is to drill small holes into your handle, grind the end of your tang to an edge, and using a torch, heat the end of your tang up to red and burning your tang into your handle stock.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Lol thanks man. And yeah I have seen people do burn through tang, but it seems sooo sketchy. However I know Great knife makers that do it so maybe I will try it sometime.
@craigcook1571
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wengelsworkshop I’ve done on a couple of knives with no problems, but the majority of my knives are full tang as I try to make knives that are hunting, but strong enough to use as a survival knife should the need arise
Great job,beautiful knife. I make file knives also but I do not aneal them first. I do a temper cycle at 400f for 2 hours and then grind them being careful to keep the metal cool. Since the object of the heat treating process is to make the blade as hard as a file and then bring that hardness down by tempering and I'm starting with a file I see no need in annealing it. It is a little rougher on your belts. I have subd
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you George! and yeah that makes sense just tempering the blade.
Looks very similar to a Bark River Aurora. Just wondering why you didn’t make it a full tang knife since you had a big enough file to begin with. Lovely looking knife though and nicely made.
in the future your grandkids are gonna say : “ wonder why grandpa made the tang hole so big “ 🤣 kidding , great build 👍
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Lol I can assure you it is quite durable
Quick question... My kydex sheaths tend to scratch my knives when inserting and removing knife. Have you had this problem? How do you keep it from happening? Thanks for the video, beautiful knife!
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jason. This is just general wear of fixed blade knife. When i press the sheath i use 3 layers of tape on the blade to give some extra room. And i clean the sheath out the best i possibly can before removing the tape from the blade. However any debris, dust, sand, dirt will eventually get in the sheath and scratch your blade. wiping off the blade before putting it back in the sheath can also help. It is my understanding that this is a problem with all sheaths including leather.
The end look of the blade is really well made! however considering you were trying to honor that file, I would have liked to see some file texture on the blade. Overall I found this video super cool !
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Will! I made another file knife a few knives back and left some texture on it, but i really just wanted to make a clean knife.
Time to invest in some tongs, brother. Solid build! I haven’t looked at your other content yet, but a video on that belt clip would be useful. I’m sick of paying $12 a pop for ulticlips
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Lol My tongs came in the mail like 2 days after I heat treated it. I will try and remember to include the clip in the next video or 2. Or maybe make a short of it?.. Thanks for checking out the channel though Andrew
@fives645
2 жыл бұрын
You can also make tongs out of rebar btw 🤙
Beautiful blade...it is hard but how easy is it to resharpen ...?
Great video. Do you have a link for the 2x72?
Beautiful knife! Will it rust easy?
I love your belt grinder setup. Did you build that or is that something I can order?
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Its the Revolution by Brian House or house/work youtube. it is a kit that you have to build but it is a great and affordable grinder.
Looks amazing. But how you keep it safe from rust? I did one and it's rusting like crazy
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! you have to keep the blade oiled or waxed and you always have to dry the knife after wet use.
Nice build. Did you every think about doing a leather sheath?
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark! and yes but i taken the time to learn how to make one yet.
Great video ! I would love to have a knife made with a file that belonged to My Grandfather ! ( but He died before I was born ) He was several things in His lifetime , one of which was a Blacksmith .
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching John!
@johnhoward7298
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wengelsworkshop I wouldn't work one bit about any mistakes in that knife ! It's a knife I'd be proud of !
Good job!! Sorry,is it possibile to have a magnet link??
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
amzn.to/3FwI8pc thank you
Nice Job! A question about your grinder, I see that it says AC motor control in the video, will that controller work on a 220v motor?
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and yes it will!
I was showing my rasp file dagger to a machinist. Before grinding, I thought I did a good annealing. He did a file test and said I should anneal it and not quench it. The file is already so hard, quenching it will only make it brittle…Thanks for any input
@Wengelsworkshop
Жыл бұрын
A file comes very hard. Too hard to be a knife. So there are 2 ways to go about this. You could simply temper the file which would give it the proper quality for a knife. However you still could not drill holes in it and when you grind your bevels you have to be careful not to overheat it bc the file already has a good heat treat at this point. Or you could fully anneal the knife or fully soften the metal so that you can drill holes and grind away without worrying about heat. And then quench and temper then knife. (Fully reheat treat). Either way is fine based on your goals. If you aren't confident in heat treating the first one makes it simple bc you can just temper it in the oven and the heat treatment is done
@nobackhands
Жыл бұрын
@@Wengelsworkshop Thanks for the reply. I must have annealed it satisfactorily because I was able to drill the handle holes with no problem. Just to be sure - What do you think if it is anneal, let set and then quench?
@Wengelsworkshop
Жыл бұрын
Yes. If it is fully annealed then heat it to non magnetic and quench. Then temper for 2 cycles for 2 hours at 400°f. You could also do some normalization cycles before you quench.
@nobackhands
Жыл бұрын
@@Wengelsworkshop Thanks
This is excellent. I have an old file from my grandfather as well. Do you take orders. I’d love to send you mind and have this done.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nakwai! I hadn't really thought of this, but I would definitely consider it. Message me on Instagram and we could discuss it
Very sweet knife and yes it helps immensely owning a belt grinder . I own a 60 " but should have bought a 72" as the belts are more easily obtainable compared to the 60" lol.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again! And yeah I could see it being hard to find 60" belts for sure
Beautiful knife, what material is your sheath
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! my current sheath set up is to make kydex sheaths. i plan on starting to make leather and hybrid sheaths soon though.
Nice job. How can y get one like that.?
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
That you! this one is staying in the family.
Cool video. Can I ask what you paid for the new grinder. I'm in the market and am doing comparisons
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Philip. $1350 1.5hp variable speed motor that can do reverse. and it came with a work rest for the vertical and horizontal position. Pheer and origin were the budget machines i was looking at and ameribrade was the one i was gonna get if i said F it. lol
@TheMotownPhilly
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wengelsworkshop lol that's funny cause you basically just described my thoughts. I'm stuck between an origin and building a revolution gen 4 right now. Too be honest if someone would sell me the same one you have at that price id buy it. Does your guy ship? Might be worth it if shipping doesn't push me too far over.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMotownPhilly Man lol... it sounds like we were literally in the exact same boat. I dont believe he ships. he mostly biulds them for a hobby. He was telling me he probably wasnt gonna build any more bc its not worth it. I found him on fb market place. If you want hit me up on instagram and i could reach out to him just to ask. he is in the tampa florida area
No normalizing cycles first, before the quench?
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
I usually do 2-3 but I forgot to mention it in this video.
@danunger3240
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wengelsworkshop good to hear. It does make a difference.
what the produc you take for the case of your nif
What do you call this blue type of belt grinder. I've been trying to get one for ages but always give up after searching for a while and forget about it until I need one. And the process repeats itself.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Lol. It is a 2x72 belt grinder. I have one linked in my description but it's a kit you have to build yourself. Thanks for watching!
@franscois7780
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wengelsworkshop build it myself? Even better. Thanks
what did you use to mark center of the edge does it need to be same size as steel?
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Just a drill bit. Really you want to have 2 center lines bc you don't want the edge ground to 0 thickness bc it will be too thin to heat treat. If after heat treat you are doing a scandi grind then you would grind to 0 thickness. But normally you would leave the edge maybe half or a third the thickness of a dime before applying the secondary bevel post heat treat when the knife is done. To achieve 2 line you would use a drill bit slightly thicker than the steel or slightly thinner. Pre heat treat the edge should probably be at least as thick as a penny.
@ivelinslavov
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wengelsworkshop so if i had 3mm steel what drill should be used or any other method to do 2 lines?
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
I just take my set of drill bits out and test mark until it marks roughly where I'm looking for. I would imagine a 2mm or 4mm would work to give 2 center lines leaving enough thickness for heat treat
@ivelinslavov
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wengelsworkshop thank you for answer!
Хорошая работа 👍🇷🇺
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Спасибо
To jest stal węglowa i się nadaje na robieniu z nich noża
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Tak, oczywiście, ale wymaga to obróbki cieplnej noża, a nie pilnika. Dzięki za oglądanie
👍👏👏
Isnt a knife from file fragile? It will break easily ?
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
I explained this in the video. The entire heat treat had to be redone with a temper to give the knife the toughness necessary to be a good knife.
With all due respect, the quality of materials, locksmith, processing and the end result are at the highest level! But! -A blade from a file? Ordinary file?
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
It's carbon steel like Many knives. The edge retention is very good
@thomaslindroos1667
2 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with using a file? What could possibly be better than a file? It is literally made out of many miniscule knives that shave metal, maybe a little brittle but that depends on the temper. I don't know what drugs this soviet is on but hey great video mate!! Love it!
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Thomas!
When are you gonna start a shop?
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Larry. It is tough to justify it bc I only make between 2-4 knives a month. So if someone asks me to make them a knife I can give them a price and make it, But i wouldnt have much inventory in a store. I probably should make one though to list the stuff that is available and display my work that is sold or that im not selling.
@GMaker0507
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wengelsworkshop Makes sense. The heirloom aspect is cool. Here's three separate ideas i think would be cool : 1) A knife with a carbon fiber handle. 2) a knife with maybe a secret slot in the handle that could fit like some money, or a USB drive, or something smallish. 3) Adding maybe a gold engraving on the handle.
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the ideas. A carbon fiber knife will probably be in the works soon. And the slot idea is cool but I'm not sure how I would pull that off while keeping the handle durable. Gold engraved would probably be way off in the future. If you look up Kyle Royer he is one of the best makers in the world and he does some amazing gold engraved stuff.
Good knife 🔪 What name am amatrial in 11:36 minutes
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. At 11:36 I use an electric griddle to heat the kydex to make the sheath.
What is the hrc of the knife ?
@Wengelsworkshop
Жыл бұрын
dude i wish i had hrc tester. all i can do is performance tests. chopping 2x4 a bunch of times and then seeing if the knife can still shave
Хотел бы я получить один из этих ножей в подарок на день рождения
@Wengelsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
спасибо за просмотр этого видео