In my experience, the shaft and shaft cover didn't seem to fit perfectly, causing noise whenever I moved the stick. I fixed this by carefully wrapping the shaft with a thin layer of paper and securing it with some tape. It worked perfectly! One great thing about the clear shaft covers is that they allow you to customize the look by adding artwork directly to the shaft. You should definitely try it out!

Thanks for the review! I've been thinking about picking this up! I still have the original IST Knee lever. :)

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

You should! Definitely much more consistent than the V1 in my experience

Looks extra clean, nice review man

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

ty

If I remember correctly, the V1 had some QC issues when it came to the rubber/actuator. I had to get a new actuator/rubber and I believe the switches were micron and not gersung a3s. I had the v1 since it came out and ive gotten used to it but the diagonals really screwed me when it came to certain inputs. As for the neo lever, it feels 100 times better than the v1, it has 3 regular gersung a3's and a slightly different a3 for the up direction which I think requires more force and ive noticed I dont get the occasional mis input jump when doing combos.

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

absolutely correct, same here 🫠 V1 is good but neo is better

Knee and the team that created the first lever got a lot of feedback that the users are getting a lot of random jumps on the first knee lever which is the Rox one. They fixed that with this lever.

Maybe one day I shall try and get good with a fight stick. The lever looks pretty nice tbh and it performs good from looks of it too so that might be on my list for the future 👀 nice review 🙌👊

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

Thanks bro!

Love the videos brother. Would you consider doing a review on the Sanjuks v7? I haven’t seen one

@imortalXsoul

3 ай бұрын

Yes, when it arrives :)

Oh nice, the lever I use. I actually switched from the v1 because my diagonals weren't clean enough as well. Plus the square gate felt nice

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

yeah the neo def has better diagonals or easier to find at least

Hi! You mentioned the lever has a different switch, which way you recommend installing it as the down or up input? Or which way you installed it?

@imortalXsoul

3 ай бұрын

it labelled on the back which way the lever is supposed to be installed

@Lars0619

3 ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoul thanks :)

Awesome review! Just bought this lever for my new qanba obsidian 2. Do you have any 30mm buttons you'd recommend?

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

Gamer Finger or Enth KRM

@squared8388

28 күн бұрын

Did you manage to fit the lever into your Obsidian 2?

So do you generally play on lever less controller? Thinking of getting this Neo when I see it in stock. Also been thinking of going lever less. It seems execution is easier on lever less. It seems. Not sure.

@imortalXsoul

3 ай бұрын

Yes I play on leverless, don't expect for an execution boost straight away. Still takes dedication and practice!

@chucklos391

3 ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoul Oh hey thanks! Kinda of figured. Being able to do certain combos on the right side still takes tons of time so I would imagine those buttons on the left will take time as well.

you convinced me! Tekken 8 Is my first fighting game, and I really wanna learn on stick from the get go, I settled on the alpha N, but after this video I'm going with the knee neo with different grommets, thank you!

@imortalXsoul

Ай бұрын

Alpha N is a great choice too!

@Setliin

Ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoul tbh, I'm probably gonna end with both. arcade stick and modding seems to be a deep rabbit hole I am jumping into haha

@imortalXsoul

Ай бұрын

@@Setliin i’m already far far into it 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

@Setliin

Ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoul thanks for the answer! you def gained my sub since I'm a FGC noob :D

I have a hard time to hit clean diagonals with this lever after coming from a JLF. Is this normal? I have to hit the db very hard for it to register and it messes up a lot of my KBD. I can't KBD anymore I guess, because of this. The inputs are good, but everytime I have to hit two inputs at the same time, it's very hard compared to the JLF... I don't understand.

@imortalXsoul

3 ай бұрын

Yes, JLF gate is very obvious, keep practicing and don’t rely on the “gate” as much. Feel the switches

@Cazarace

3 ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoul OK thanks. I'm trying. Maybe it's the rubber tension that is hard to get used to? I don't want it to be the stick, just me that have a hard time. It was so light with the JLF, and now I can't consistenly get my inputs, especially DB.

@imortalXsoul

3 ай бұрын

@@Cazarace Yeah the tension is definitely tougher than stock JLF. You can get super light tension as well but then you need to control the spring back to neutral a bit more yourself. So find the sweet spot. Personally I like the IST violet 32A (lighter than this knee lever) or ASI 45A. Light medium 😁

Brother before installing Which side do we need the lever up on stick ? There is one zippi small and other 3 are bigger

@imortalXsoul

Ай бұрын

it’s labelled

Very nice video. I had this lever few days ago and I would say it’s great but the feeling of the restrictor gate is annoying so i had to remove and play without it and it felt much better for me imo.

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

what do you mean you removed the gate? it's built into the housing unless you mean the switch plate?

@MrHzK20

4 ай бұрын

Yeah i meant the plastic switch plate . My Lever should be okay without it, right?

Very much enjoying your review video. Any chance of a review of Crown Shinsun?

@imortalXsoul

3 ай бұрын

Hmmm probably not! Sorry :(

First time here. Those eyes making me feel some type of way, but yes, good review. I switched to the 25 rubber grommet, and I prefer it.

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

It's a little off-topic, but what kind of buttons did you use on your fightstick?

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

Gamerfinger

@djhondo3103

4 ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoul Sorry.I expressed myself badly, I was talking about the brand

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

@@djhondo3103 the brand is called gamerfinger

The plate for the switches is called a gate. The Knee Lever has a square gate that helps you to have more accurate diagonals. Most Korean lever have no gates or some call it circle gate and it's much harder to input diagonals if you're new to using a fightstick.

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

the body has a circle gate, and the switch gate has a squircle… strange

Hi 👋, is this lever rocking a CircleSquare Gate just like the ShinSun Korean lever? And if it does that means that the only difference between the two is the groomet and the actuator size? 🤔 Also why there's a smaller hinge? And what position should we place this lever having a smaller hinge.

@imortalXsoul

Ай бұрын

None of the hinges are smaller. The switch spacing and switch plate directions compensate for P1 and P2 motions as well as jump/up. You'll notice in a lot of levers the switches aren't all symmetrically mounted. Also the knee lever has a squircle collar, the shinsun lever and neo are nothing alike

@Pichoniix

Ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoul Thanks 👍

That frost surface on the Cross up looks crazy. I'm jealous.

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

👀👀👀

@3li_alzadjali

4 ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoulfrom where/what website you built that cross up ?!

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

@@3li_alzadjali i ordered the parts from various and built it myself

bruh which lighter grommet do you recommend purple or white ?

@imortalXsoul

Ай бұрын

definitely purple

Ay finally

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

👀👀

Is the stock battop removable? Nice review. 🔥🔥🔥

@imortalXsoul

5 күн бұрын

@@geeenriquez1124 yup

Would it fit on gamesir c2 arcade stick?

@imortalXsoul

2 ай бұрын

No idea, you'd need to look up compatibility

I think the reason it feels slightly more tense than the violet grommet is because of the white acetyl ring on the Knee (and all DX) levers, whereas the normal MJ levers etc have molded plastic inner rings, which aren't as wide and so they exert less tension on the grommet from inside. Other than that I'm pretty sure it's just a rebranded violet 30 tension grommet.

@imortalXsoul

2 ай бұрын

I read that the tension is actually 32ST and not 30ST, so that could be the reason why

@audiosmurf

2 ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoul Ah ok, thanks for the info. The only problem I've had with 309Mjs is occasionally uneven switch spacing. The Knee lever I'm guessing takes care of that problem?

@imortalXsoul

Ай бұрын

@@audiosmurf switches felt consistent for me yeah

Can u Tell me how long did it take for you to get it, from the Day of order? I am also from EU and would like to know aprox.when to expect it. Sorry for the wierd comment But I did not find other way to contact u. Cheers mate 😊

@imortalXsoul

3 ай бұрын

about 6 days from IST MALL, but they’ve been experiencing a surge of orders since tekken 8, i made another order for the Sanjuks V6 and V7 with other parts and have been waiting for dispatch since 26th March. They are usually very fast though

@TrubaR17

3 ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoul Now since items Have been dispatched, I wanted to mention...let us know how do you feel about Sanjuks v6 and v7, since they are much more expensive compared to Knee lever. Stay good brother 👊

If you’ve tried the crown NEW HELPME, would you recommend the knee lever over the new helpme?

@arisgemino

4 ай бұрын

Im using the new help me right now and my knee neo is coming in tommorow or the next day ill get back to you from a mishima user standpoint 😊

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

I don’t have it unfortunately!

@R3apkaz3shini

4 ай бұрын

@@arisgemino awesome 👍🏼 thanks 😝

@Beekeeperx3

4 ай бұрын

Yeah im curious too

@venomblade891

3 ай бұрын

@@arisgemino Now that you've had some time with both, curious about your verdict from a Mishima POV.

“Im not stick playah” lol bro youve been grafted in then because that was great play, would you recommend this or the v6? i play sf6 and t8

@imortalXsoul

2 ай бұрын

this is the neo! yes, i recommend the neo. One of the easier levers for beginners to K lever

@jcramirez77

2 ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoul im sorry bud i meant would you recommend the neo or sanjuks v6 for a t8 or sf6 player, thanks for the reply

@imortalXsoul

2 ай бұрын

@@jcramirez77 V6 is better, Neo is easier to use

May i ask what brand that case is?

@imortalXsoul

Ай бұрын

eternal rival made it!

Where did you buy that frost edge? Its looks soo sexy

@imortalXsoul

Ай бұрын

eternal rival

only thing to critisize is that the lever is REALLY "deep" in most sticks it probably wont fit, is there a like formfactor to know in which sticks it fits? also nice stick what is it ur using?

@imortalXsoul

16 күн бұрын

@@cloud4876 thank you, it’s custom! I built it myself. Also yea there are compatibility lists online

@kickass2733

8 күн бұрын

This stick actually fits most of the “premium” arcade sticks. IST Mall has a compatibility list. Its a good thing to check to see if your stick can fit it. This fit in my Rap4 as well as the V1 did

@cloud4876

8 күн бұрын

@@kickass2733 ah nice that you mention it. bought a victrix pro fs and didnt wanna waste my used rap 4 and the list said only rap 4 kai so i wasnt sure

@kickass2733

8 күн бұрын

@@cloud4876 the rap 4 and rap 4 Kai are the exact same casing. Only difference being the lever is a little more spaced out from the buttons on the Kai

@cloud4876

8 күн бұрын

@@kickass2733 didnt knew that also thanks. now i buy the knee lever neo and new buttons. for them do you have any recommendations on good buttons? thought of gamer fingers but they arent really there anymore. also probably break everything when trying to mod since i never done that

as far as i know knee uses this as opposed to the limited edition ones or even the premium. the only way i remember this is that PHIDX mentioned this one time during one of his videos and knee currently use the this regular knee lever neo. honestly this is an excellent stick but personally its a hit or miss for me since i'm more used with the helpme and dongpal 309 variants, oh and i also like the capsule top

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

yeah he does use this variant. I prefer this over any other 309 variant but the new help me is great too

@petekaiser

4 ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoul i'd probably consider this over the old knee lever as well just because of the capsule top and probably sand it down a bit for the feel in the hands also this is the only korean lever that i know that has a spin to it even a little which probably explains the ease of movement to qcf moves or even wavedashes

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

@zoran6850 They don't function the same because they use different materials. The premium edition compresses the grommets more iirc - docs.google.com/document/d/1XnYAH8RWx1az-Y3cP2ZfMJfbh5t1-Iy1JPSRQhZ7iAA/edit

is there a reason why you use a crossup i thought they was banned for TWT

@imortalXsoul

3 ай бұрын

i use leverless. This is just for fun

BRO WHO GOT YOU SMILING LIKE THAT

@imortalXsoul

Ай бұрын

😂😂

What stick are you using?

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

custom built

@sunchip276

4 ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoul Where can I get the same stick housing?

I'll love to have this but I been on pad forever. It could take a while to adjust. I also do mess with your music🔥🔥

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

thank you! i only play stick for fun, i main leverless now from pad!

Can you review your custom box, i want to make one like this.

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

I dont feel like taking everything apart but maybe in the future

“I’m not a Mishima player, I’m not a stick player” perfectly executes everything with minimal hand movement 😂. I had a 309 and it was really nice but due to thumb problems I had to permanently move to lever less, would’ve been cool af to have a knee pro lever, wavedashing was easier for me on lever also 😢

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 yeah i prefer leverless but not for mishimas, crossup is better

@heroicsquirrel3195

2 ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoul I would’ve bought a crossup had my thumbs not given out, seems really cool and versatile

so? after In-Depth Reviews, its difficult to consider, which one is the best. neo good diagonals - than its good for mishimas, but in v6 you sad, thats it for mishimas. So can someone just sum it up, what is better and why neo or v6/v7? is neo spinning? iv v6/v7 is better for mishimas, then neo is better for something else, am i wrong?

@imortalXsoul

Ай бұрын

They’re both good for mishima but neo is easier to pick up and use. Neo spins, V6 doesn’t

@mindLESS-il7ee

Ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoul thanks, man. i should buy neo then.

is this lever spins?

@imortalXsoul

3 ай бұрын

not massively

Do you also play Street Fighter with Korean Sticks?

@imortalXsoul

2 ай бұрын

No, DS5

@Crowlo17

2 ай бұрын

@@imortalXsoul thank you champ

i hope you'll review the sanjuks v6/v7

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

Indeed

@guidoc5772

4 ай бұрын

Rocking a knee neo right now and I have the V7 coming in from IST. Some kind of comparison video would be amazing. These are the 2 premier k levers rn and no one has compared them, you'd have a very unique video ​@imortalXsoul

Sanjuks v7 vs knee lever neo ?

@imortalXsoul

9 күн бұрын

@@halimodz5911 They’re completely different. Neo easier to pick up and use straight away

@halimodz5911

9 күн бұрын

Thank you bro

are those eyes natural?

@imortalXsoul

2 ай бұрын

yes

Nice video on the lever but installing it in the crossup is funny. The shortcut options available for movement & execution make the lever a moot point imo. I installed an ASI Golden Lever into the Alpha Crossup from their kickstarter. Once I learned all of the shortcuts the lever became a speed barrier and introduced overhead and caused random execution errors. Swapping it out for an Odin V2 drop in converted it into an all button leverless build I’ve been using to this day. Movement is effortless and execution errors are a thing of the past.

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

That’s subjective, you’re not forced to use the extra direction buttons and sounds like user error but I could be wrong. I also prefer this over the golden lever so again, very subjective 🫡

can you mod it to be a bat top?

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

yes

Debating to get this and the Sanjuks v6, but have you tried using the Kneeo lever without the gate it comes with? Is it viable and is it just less restrictive?

@imortalXsoul

3 ай бұрын

Nah i didnt try it, but I prefer sanjuks V7 over all of them. I have sanjuks v6 and v7 too

NO random jumps??!! LOL if that happens the problem is not the stick, its the player LOL!

@imortalXsoul

4 ай бұрын

No it's not. The V1 was known to have spring back when returning to neutral.