Klipsch Forte IV. The end.

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  • @DarkoAudio
    @DarkoAudio2 жыл бұрын

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  • @LASoundCrafter
    @LASoundCrafter2 жыл бұрын

    Polymides are used a lot to strengthen textiles - natural polymides can be found in silk and wool. Synthetic polymides are commonly used in the automotive industry, kitchen utensils. Here, probably for it’s lightweight strength.

  • @DarkoAudio

    @DarkoAudio

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for taking the time to explain this so nicely. 👍🏻

  • @danielkoster7762

    @danielkoster7762

    2 жыл бұрын

    And it's durability! The most common example of polyamides are nylon products

  • @davidlewis8124

    @davidlewis8124

    2 жыл бұрын

    Right on the money 👌✌️❤️

  • @naturalverities

    @naturalverities

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually it's easy to confuse polyamide and polyimide, especially when you don't write (edit) pronounce the third syllable. ;->. The Forte 4 mid diaphragm is polyimide (commonly called Kapton), a good thing as it is far more heat resistant than polyamide (commonly called nylon) and for that reason is in widespread use for speaker voice coil formers.

  • @2233sc

    @2233sc

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@naturalverities Thank you, they use polyimide (kapton) not polyamide (nylon). I would imagine nylon would be a terrible speaker cone material.

  • @billbones1000
    @billbones10002 жыл бұрын

    An ideal sound in your head is what us musicians live with our entire lives! We chase it with out ears, our fingers, our picks, our Bowes, our lips and limbs and gear. Sometimes I think never reaching that ideal sound is what keeps most of us going through lifetimes of ramen noodles and unappreciative audiences.

  • @dbaum3
    @dbaum32 жыл бұрын

    I just passed down my original Fortes to my son (14) who loves jamming on them with Pink Floyd and other classic rock tunes. Proud Dad!

  • @donquixoteupinhere

    @donquixoteupinhere

    2 жыл бұрын

    Rad dad!

  • @DucatiKozak
    @DucatiKozak2 жыл бұрын

    I especially enjoyed your attitude & take on how 'audio memory is too fragile for potentially small deltas'! Best reviews for any electronic genre online! Thanks John!

  • @christophernoto
    @christophernoto2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, John, for a very classy video review of a tremendous product. I've been a Klipsch fanboy since 1971, when a neighbor invited me in to listen to his new Klipshorns. My youngest brother has a pair of first generation Klipsch Fortes, and I've had some great evenings DJing at his house. I love my early '90s Klipsch KG3.2s, a CraigsList find, right before our first COVID lockdown. My current dream speaker is a Klipsch inspired, DIY, design called the Cornscala, a mashup of the best aspects of the Klipsch Cornwall and La Scala. Gosh, have I overshared? Well, thanks again, and happy holidays to you and yours, and "all y'all" out there in KZread Land!

  • @ajw1811

    @ajw1811

    2 жыл бұрын

    Chris, is there a particular version of the cornscala you have built? Looking to do similar

  • @bruceweatherby8896

    @bruceweatherby8896

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow! What a small world. Just ordered a pair of elliptical tractrix horns from David Harris for a CornScala build.

  • @hollowaysteve
    @hollowaysteve2 жыл бұрын

    Your whole opening is exactly how I see my ideal sound. And those spks also have the perfect aesthetic for me.

  • @jstoli996c4s
    @jstoli996c4s2 жыл бұрын

    Now just imagine the Cornwalls or Khorns... and prepare to be blown away 🔊🔊

  • @joshuaschneck
    @joshuaschneck2 жыл бұрын

    Just got a pair of Forte iv's and I concur with what Darko and other reviewers have said: they have a very engaging and exciting presentation that is more fun to listen to than most speakers - at least those I've heard.

  • @therevrockinrollin
    @therevrockinrollin2 жыл бұрын

    New deck? Those speakers have a special place in my heart. Great video…as always.

  • @anthonyhopkin
    @anthonyhopkin2 жыл бұрын

    My 'idealized vintage sound that lives in my head' comes from what I heard at the start of the 70's. It was the Grateful Dead 'Wall of Sound' that I heard on their European tour - something that I have never forgotten. Have been trying to reproduce some of that in my home for the past 50 years.... Close these days - but no cigar. Thanks John for your work. Greetings to you and yours.

  • @ecyfoto

    @ecyfoto

    2 жыл бұрын

    I caught their show in Munich. I was blown away by the number of amps and speakers behind an enormous scrim hanging in front of them. What a sound.

  • @stephencosta6814

    @stephencosta6814

    2 жыл бұрын

    John curl from Parasound designed that sound system that you’re speaking about try one of his amplifiers?

  • @terrywho22
    @terrywho222 жыл бұрын

    Polyimide is a (thermo)plastic polymer that has an imide linkage (CO-N-CO, where the CO groups are carbonyls.) Kapton is a brand name for a type of polyimide. This differs from softer, lower strength common polymers like polypropylene or polyethylene that use carbon only for the backbone (only C - no nitrogen.) It's also more similar to polymers like polyamide (which uses a CO-NH linkage.) Polyimide has enough structural rigidity to be used as a diaphragm material, but since it has better damping characteristics than titanium, it can make for a more natural, less hard-sounding driver. Hope this helps!

  • @mark-hollis
    @mark-hollis2 жыл бұрын

    Perfect timing. I just ordered my pair of Forte IVs the day before I saw this video. I'm very looking forward to these speakers!

  • @milesv5352

    @milesv5352

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Keith Kneeland how are u powering them? Thanks

  • @markd4292

    @markd4292

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Keith Kneeland That's cool Keith. I am considering the Forte IV's too, but just don't know. It's a battle between the Forte's and KLH Model 5 (which was a very nice sound), but of course the Forte's sounded bigger than life! My thing is room placement difficulties: the Model 5's will be a bit friendlier in that respect because they are a sealed cabinet, but the Forte's...I don't know. How far away from the wall do you have them? I have thick carpeting which will help. I see people with hardwood floors having to really pull the Forte's at least 3 ft. from the wall, that's just too much for me. How about you?

  • @waynebarto3540
    @waynebarto35402 жыл бұрын

    John...I recently purchased a pair of Cornwall IVs and paired them with a vintage Harman Kardon 930 receiver pushing 48 watts into 8 ohms. My source material is streamed from a Node 2i and fed to a Denafrips Ares II DAC. I am in audiophile heaven! This system produces that sound you call "the end"!

  • @bryanpaulgilbert7308

    @bryanpaulgilbert7308

    2 жыл бұрын

    congrats, that sounds like an amazing set up!

  • @myu4039

    @myu4039

    2 жыл бұрын

    The best of the new and old!

  • @dougg1075

    @dougg1075

    2 жыл бұрын

    I recently got the Heresy IVs that I have connected to a Willsenton R8 and sub. Same here. Audiophile endgame if not for plans to get the Cornwalls one day

  • @Mr_J_J
    @Mr_J_J2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks John! These would both be fantastic with tubes. Thanks for sharing your impressions of these current efficient, easy-to-drive, reasonably sized, and attainable speakers.

  • @gotham61
    @gotham612 жыл бұрын

    Polyimide (note that there are two “I”s) is a plastic commonly known by the trade name Kapton. It is known for its stiffness, light weight,, and thermal handling properties. You most commonly see it used to make voice coil formers, where it’s ability to handle high heat is beneficial.

  • @Cimone90

    @Cimone90

    Жыл бұрын

    I didn't know they used kapton for anything other than tape haha. I use it when doing soldering jobs all the time. The more you know

  • @dancundiff3316
    @dancundiff33162 жыл бұрын

    Very well done, thank you. About to buy a pair! This helped.

  • @trevorcrowe7571
    @trevorcrowe75712 жыл бұрын

    My idealized vintage sound is startling real vocals from older recordings in a lively room. My idealized modern sound is ultra detailed and textured bass and highs from a highly damped room.

  • @tedjensen8841
    @tedjensen88412 жыл бұрын

    Another great video. Thank you

  • @tahirahmed3747
    @tahirahmed37472 жыл бұрын

    Love the voice in the AD :)

  • @hassanidir9919
    @hassanidir99192 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @eddents
    @eddents2 жыл бұрын

    Fun to watch comparison - thank you! No static from me on your definition of "vintage". 30 years ago is a good chunk of time. I remember my "vintage back". Sure miss how it performed "back" in the day (as I type this laying on the floor dealing with my "modern back").

  • @joalindkvist947
    @joalindkvist9472 жыл бұрын

    Thx for putting words on my feeling and thoughts. 👍😄

  • @theklipschcave3389

    @theklipschcave3389

    2 жыл бұрын

    THX Arendal1723...

  • @boballard6040
    @boballard60402 жыл бұрын

    Interesting.. this does explain why I bought the Heresy IV seeing my era was 1968 through the 70's. Good analogy and yes it is all in our heads!

  • @chawonytube
    @chawonytube2 жыл бұрын

    Great content as always.

  • @paulpavlou9294
    @paulpavlou92942 жыл бұрын

    That sound in my head. In 1983 I heard a system that comprised of stacked Quad 57’s electrostatic speakers, Naim pre and power amps, linn Lp12 and a quad 405 power amp driving Kef b139 drivers in a transmission line boxes. This was an epiphany for me just starting out on my audio journey. The closest I’ve heard since, other than my own system was some ATC 150’s at a hifi show at the Airport Hilton in Sydney in 1990’s. Love your work John and your aesthetics. Merry Christmas from Australia.

  • @producerevan88
    @producerevan88 Жыл бұрын

    I had an old pair of early 1970's klipsch tower speakers that were about 4 and some change feet tall. Loved them to bits, had to give them away when I moved. Miss those dudes

  • @DaYoda191
    @DaYoda1912 жыл бұрын

    The audio memory of an ideal sound for me is less of a sound and more of a feeling. That feeling I felt when I was young and walked into a record store and they had a gorgeous hifi setup playing, and I realized how exciting it can be to listen to music. I think that sound tends to have strong bass that is fast and punchy without being boomy, but still fills the room, sound you can feel. And the highs are nice and smooth, not harsh, not quiet, but smooth and engaging. And the mids are warm and at the front of the soundstage. They pop and give more detail to the music. It's such a hard feeling to describe, but for me I'm always looking for a product that gives me that excitement of listening to music. Trying to avoid more modern sounds that have lots of bass and highs, but lack detail. I have a pair of Klipsch RP 60 m speakers that get pretty close to that. I like the engaging feeling you get with Klipsch speakers. I would really love to listen to a pair of the forte IV's, I have a feeling they will have that record store experience I'm looking for. Just to expensive for me right now unfortunately.

  • @tommy2714
    @tommy27149 ай бұрын

    Love your passion for audio and people like us in audio sound that enjoy are favorite songs and artists can only understand what it means to hear something euphoric in our ears that some people will never understand. Anyways..Great review 😊

  • @geoffreymills9932

    @geoffreymills9932

    6 ай бұрын

    With this generation being raised on ipods and cell phone music I don't think they could hear the difference between a Panasonic and a carver 😂😂, and the rap,, they're probably tone deaf anyway

  • @NemanjaPantelic
    @NemanjaPantelic2 жыл бұрын

    When you asked the question at the beginning of the video, I imagined the same sound in my head as you described. Perhaps it was the kind of sound that I grew up with during the '80s and early '90s. I consider myself lucky to have been able to experience and enjoy firsthand new what we now define as vintage HiFi.

  • @WeeWeeJumbo
    @WeeWeeJumbo2 жыл бұрын

    not gonna lie, the fortes have all the look and vibe of *My Dad's Hi-fi™* and that alone draws me to them

  • @GhostOfNihlus

    @GhostOfNihlus

    2 жыл бұрын

    The context of contextual memory is fascinating.

  • @greggb681
    @greggb681 Жыл бұрын

    1:07 Omg same!! Warm, but dynamic with a relaxed top end

  • @paulgib96
    @paulgib9611 ай бұрын

    I am definitely an audiophile. That being said, my Forte IV speakers blow my mind!!

  • @allenwilliams8962

    @allenwilliams8962

    10 ай бұрын

    mine too. all other speakers are boring

  • @wvjon75

    @wvjon75

    10 ай бұрын

    I keep waffling back and forth as to whether to buy a pair of Forte IVs to compare to my Cornwall IVs and sell the loser. I was not able to go listen anywhere nearby so I bought the Corns unheard. They’re great but man they are visually imposing in my house. Lol

  • @darrelldarrell1447

    @darrelldarrell1447

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@wvjon75the corns are better in every way.

  • @xXLegendXx70

    @xXLegendXx70

    3 ай бұрын

    Are the cornwalls better than the forte iv then?​@@wvjon75

  • @xXLegendXx70

    @xXLegendXx70

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@darrelldarrell1447have you listened to both speakers on the same amp in the same room?

  • @CosmicKnight1
    @CosmicKnight12 жыл бұрын

    Quite a contrast in production quality from 2019 to now. You produce some very polished material!

  • @thirdkey9
    @thirdkey92 жыл бұрын

    My most personal and idealized vintage sound often gets triggered while playing vinyl and it still hooks me. I’m invariably brought back to the 70’s and my fathers stereo system (marantz & fisher, glowing tubes, big box speakers) and my first full rack system. Super big and dynamic sound. Clearly this is why despite having been more of a future fi minimalist for quite some time, my return to collecting vinyl has made a connection for me to that sound you speak of here; something that creates a really subjective emotional and almost magical experience.

  • @AlexanderBrowne
    @AlexanderBrowne2 жыл бұрын

    Videos are looking great and nice to see them in 4K.

  • @mikerichards6312
    @mikerichards63122 жыл бұрын

    Great review. I have the Forte IIIs an love them. Perfect old school, big box sound, like my speaker in college in 1978! But way better quality of sound.

  • @mauriciogutierrez8992
    @mauriciogutierrez89922 жыл бұрын

    I have these paired to a Yamaha AS3200 and am loving them. Piano recordings sound like you’re there in the music hall.

  • @kirlu50
    @kirlu502 жыл бұрын

    My ideal sound is, currently, that of some big Wilson speakers driven by a big Mark Levinson power amp. My local gear pusher played that setup for me last week. It sounded glorious. And the gloss finish on those speakers was so satisfying to touch.

  • @nabilhoque9745
    @nabilhoque9745 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly....this is what I'm looking for

  • @saml2879
    @saml28792 жыл бұрын

    I love my forte 4, it is THE End game for me....

  • @RoaroftheTiger
    @RoaroftheTiger2 жыл бұрын

    John, I'm Old ! So these are my Romantized Picks on Vintage Speaker Ideals; 'the Large Advents' (with the "right guttzy amp"- back then a Phase Linear -700) ... the complete Braun L series; including the "LS3/5a size" & comparable tone, at about 1/3 the price - 'L-200' (& It's updated variant CM-5. Bought a pair in Berlin a couple of years ago from the Braun repair shop near the Sofitel !) And lastly, the Dahlquist DQ-10 - again like the Advents, a Beast of an Amplifer is Best ... My Mispent Youth was in the Audio Industry. Though a bumpy ride. It sure was interesting. Met Henry Kloss, Paul Klipch, Saul Marantz (Marantz was with Jon Dalhquist, at the unveiling of the DQ-10 at a meeting of the NY Audio Society) Dave Wilson (at a Wine & Cheese Presentation of His then $35,000 WAMM system ! I know LOL) Lastly, Amar Bose - no comment ... and John Iverson. You may want to Google the later. As It's a very much a "Believe It or Not" Story; perhaps bizarre ? As you may come across a Poster from the F.B.I. ! "Merry Christmas"

  • @Jakeross123
    @Jakeross1232 жыл бұрын

    The green on the wall looks great!

  • @victorchiappetta3230
    @victorchiappetta3230 Жыл бұрын

    For some reason, people love to hate on Klipsch and McIntosh. Audio is so subjective. If people dig it, good for them. Their money, their rooms. I said yes to Cornwalls and ultimately no to the MA352, but it wasn't an easy choice. I could care less about measurements and specs. Do I like how it sounds? Nothing else matters.

  • @YouSoundButtHurt

    @YouSoundButtHurt

    Жыл бұрын

    What did you think about the MA352?

  • @ekimandersom4478

    @ekimandersom4478

    Жыл бұрын

    It is more the price of these. Simply overpriced for what you get . But that goes for 90% of the mainstream brands.

  • @DJcoachbombay

    @DJcoachbombay

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ekimandersom4478in your opinion, what performs as well for a significantly lower amount of money? Genuinely curious as the Klipsch Forte IV are on my very short list of next purchase. Thanks

  • @satchelm0uth

    @satchelm0uth

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@DJcoachbombay forte III owner here. I love them, but not for the money I paid. If I got a chance to do it all again, I'd save up more money for Neumann KH420's. I play mostly Disco, House, Boogie and Broken Beat and I find sometimes with very busy music they can be harsh. More spaced out music sounds amazing though. Bear in mind, I'm in a small 5m x 6m room so that really messes things up.

  • @AllboroLCD
    @AllboroLCD2 жыл бұрын

    Ive cringed so many times chipping tiny pieces of veneer sliding my heavy towers around, I had no choice but to put and end to the madness and build dolly's for them. Wheels are good for heavy speakers if you ask me!

  • @tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
    @tee-jaythestereo-bargainph21202 жыл бұрын

    John I ordered the 3x the steel door stoppers from your community post they arrived today from Amazon dam their built very well and heavy i am using them on top of my cd transport and dac thanks man !

  • @tywoodruff8578
    @tywoodruff85782 жыл бұрын

    John, thank you for a very enjoyable and informative video. Frankly, until watching this review I had never really thought about an “idealized sound living inside my head” (some might question whether there’s much of anything living inside my head). You got me thinking about it though, and I realized that yes…I do have a fairly specific sound in there. That sound I’m in search of would be best described as “live”, or as close as I could get to the musicians actually being in the room. The closest I’ve found to that is actually another Klipsch Heritage speaker, the La Scala. The first time I heard the LS it was as much emotional as auditory…literally stopped me in my tracks. This was about a year ago and not sure which iteration, but regardless well outside my budget. However, I did pick up a pair of 1980 LS earlier this year, and am now in search of an amp to pair with them. Also picked up a pair of 1978 Heresys just in case! Anyway, I would be very interested in your thoughts on speakers you have reviewed or heard that best recreated the “live” sound, as well as any thoughts on an amplifier that would pair well with the LS.

  • @chiefchunky-muffin4708
    @chiefchunky-muffin47082 жыл бұрын

    I have Heresy IV’s and love them. Backing them are a pair or Rythmik L12 subs. I rent so sometimes I have to go subs off. As far as the “sound in my head”, I recall the local Chain store had just began carrying electrostatic speakers. I forget the brand by they were mounted to a sub woofer. Anyway, I walked into the sound room and heard Billy Idol’s Sweet Sixteen on them and I still recall the clarity, but also the weight of the sound. I feel like I’m close. 👍🏼 P.S. John, you’re the best!

  • @CleartoneAudio
    @CleartoneAudio2 жыл бұрын

    If those speakers bring you to tears while reproducing some of your favorite tunes then that’s a winner. Do they? Like legitimately in an end game way? I love speakers that can do that.

  • @curt5802

    @curt5802

    9 ай бұрын

    The Heresy IV did that for me... but the Forte IV will have a more expansive soundstage.

  • @Bladerunner220
    @Bladerunner2202 жыл бұрын

    Great video. My ideal sound started with the Jbl L36. I kept on replacing with other JBLs from L65 to finally L220s, which I still have. Currently using Maggie’s 3.7i speakers. Love comparison of the 2 speakers and great music selection,my compliments. Keep up the great service you provide…

  • @gregmatula9749
    @gregmatula97492 жыл бұрын

    The sound that lives in my head. That would have to be when I went to a friend's house at twelve years old. He put on the new Billy Joel album "The Stanger", the first track stuck in my head playing through Klipsch La Scalas. I was shocked at the dynamics that came out, I had never heard anything like it.

  • @RCJP1008
    @RCJP10082 жыл бұрын

    It’s funny when you say “…you have this sound in your head…” I found mine with the Forte’s little brother-Heresy. They have “that sound” I remember as a teenager sitting in front of my dads kit in the living room. But they also give you that crazy detail at low level listening where you hear that cymbal crash and decay- lovely. Happy Christmas Darko. Keep up the good work.

  • @AudioTnT

    @AudioTnT

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ditto! I was gobsmacked by the sound of the Forte IV but settled for a pair of Heresy IV. Couldn't be happier. Now I can play classical orchestral music with a realism I could not attain before with my small LS3/5A diy speakers.

  • @sixergixer
    @sixergixer2 жыл бұрын

    A peak audio experience that set some sort of 'ideal' in my head was listening to big B&W speakers powered by big McIntosh amplifiers at my local shop back in the early oughties. So my ideal sound is big, full, and rich, and exceedingly smooth top to bottom--no gaps, no hollowed out, or even too-fleshed-out areas in the frequency range. That's my aim in my head.

  • @BeelzebubLXXV
    @BeelzebubLXXV2 жыл бұрын

    See u have a Rega planar 8 there. That's a good step up from what you usually use. Have it myself with the apheta 3 cartridge and it sounds amazing. Love to see your thoughts on that player.Great video👍

  • @cestusfr
    @cestusfr2 жыл бұрын

    Merry Christmas to you, your team and families.

  • @kkoller8952
    @kkoller89522 жыл бұрын

    I'm with you as far as the sound I'm looking for in speaker..thats why I keep my Vintage Large Advents (large and small), AR 2ax's, and ADS L730s around in my secondary system for music only listening. The Fortes have always been one of my favorite Klipsch speakers but I never went for them for one reason or another. I would love to replace my the Revels in my main system which I use mainly for home theater....now if Klipsch would come out with a center channel and surround speaker to match their Heritage Line I would have these Fortes in my living room tomorrow! Really like your review format...showing the equipment in more detail along some music is much more enjoyable than looking at some guys face rattling on about one piece of equipment or another! Look forward to more of your reviews.

  • @arsenikkkk
    @arsenikkkk2 жыл бұрын

    The ideal sound that lives in my head is that of a 90s underground rave sound systems. High dynamics, high base, punch and very minimal heigh frequencies :)

  • @bockNL
    @bockNL2 жыл бұрын

    I still love my fully restored kef 104ab's reference as the ideal (vintage) sound

  • @markphaneuf1368
    @markphaneuf13682 жыл бұрын

    This is my favourite channel on KZread bar none. Another speaker that has been updated that I would love to see you check out is the Buchardt Audio S400 MK II.

  • @griff8169
    @griff81692 жыл бұрын

    As a long time subscriber to that most prestigious monthly hi fi publication, I’ve become somewhat accustomed to jaded journalists. After awhile the high browed, been there, heard that take these chaps have on home audio tends to get long in the tooth. Not so with John. Darko’s enthusiasm always shines through. John has quickly became my favorite reviewer. With good reason. Keep up the good work JD. Happy Holidays to all!

  • @sayhellotovin
    @sayhellotovin2 жыл бұрын

    Ah finally got yerself a decent turntable Darko, hut ab!

  • @brianwalsh1844
    @brianwalsh18442 жыл бұрын

    My speaker memory is always a three way speaker - I had a pair of Mordant Short 3 ways and they were great - in my memory.

  • @annnonymous952
    @annnonymous9522 жыл бұрын

    Good review. A very different take on reviewing that I greatly appreciated. These things are not like reporting the news which should be just the facts (and rarely is these days). These reviews should be about personal impressions, shading, nuance and the feelings that a product invokes. You got all of that in spades. Thank you. I intend to get three Forte IVs to make up my LCR and use the pair of original Forte's I inherited last summer as the side surrounds in my 5.1 set up. Overkill for an apartment dweller? Maybe. Will I regret it? Doubtful. :)

  • @griffith4830
    @griffith48302 жыл бұрын

    A NAD 3020 into some lovely three way Polk Monitor 5 s - a vintage sound that was so musical and enough to tame The Smiths jangly sound. Happy days

  • @bruceweatherby8896
    @bruceweatherby88962 жыл бұрын

    My “brain audio reference” takes me back to a pair of Klipsch KG4’s driven by a Nikko setup. I have always considered this the Gold Standard of sound. I have come full circle (40 years). While I love gear, I have really gotten back to LISTENING to music.

  • @L0rdGwyn801
    @L0rdGwyn8012 жыл бұрын

    This video came out at a good time - just yesterday I began seriously considering this pair of speakers after my vintage Snell J/II were turned into a scratching post by my cat after two years of ambivalence toward them. Things change quickly. The 99dB/W sensitivity pairs well with my amplifiers (low-wattage SET designs), the grills appear to be metal, which lowers the risk of serious damage by cats, and magnetic, which sets up a nice cat booby trap if pulled on too hard. Also, Klipsch suggests placement near the rear wall to augment low end produced by the 15" passive radiator, which is a good fit for listening space. It's a match made in heaven!

  • @TheJohnnyNormal

    @TheJohnnyNormal

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you can afford/ fit take the next step and go Cornwall

  • @L0rdGwyn801

    @L0rdGwyn801

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheJohnnyNormal as much as I would love to, I'm afraid my partner would not agree to it. The Cornwall is also likely too much speaker for my room I think. I will be demoing the Forte IV at a dealer tomorrow, will see if they have the Cornwall IV in a system as well.

  • @Pilski
    @Pilski Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely great video; we need more of this type of 'comparison' content. My 'vintage' sound is very much the same as yours, indeed. I would love to know the recording heard at 5:06...sweet, and I'd love to hear the entire cut/album on my 4's! Would appreciate the info on this!

  • @dougmcdougall778
    @dougmcdougall7782 жыл бұрын

    Pair of IMF TLS-80s will give you that sound in your head and so much more!

  • @theklipschcave3389
    @theklipschcave33892 жыл бұрын

    They are very good old school speakers. I had the Forte 3s. Became a bit shouty which is not a surprise. But if you want a live speaker this is the one if you like horns. I heard the Forte 4s with a valve-amp. Very nice. Thats what the people at Klipsch recommend. So it's a good idea to aim at f.ex. a Prima Luna amp. The efficiency is more than enough. Do try to put in on transport dollies like Darko did with the Forte 3s. Easy to move in and out of position. Decouple them from the floor if needed with Auralex damping mats or similar, if the bass takes too much room. Alternative speakers which are also great live speakers and very forward without shouty horns, are the Arendal 1723 THX Towers.

  • @frederikjacob1985
    @frederikjacob19852 жыл бұрын

    The sound I had in my head for about 4 years: the b&w 804d2. Then I heard them back to back with the 804 Nautilus on the same amp as I heard the 804d2's. Not much difference on that amp. So I have bought the CDM 7 NT speakers. More neutral sounding but with that same airyness that I was searching since I had heard the 804d2's. So happy right now!

  • @carlosflup
    @carlosflup2 жыл бұрын

    ohhh yeah. i just saw a rega brio in there, just like mine. cant wait to watch its review video...

  • @eddents
    @eddents2 жыл бұрын

    Nothing strange at all about those audio memories living in our heads. I think we all have them. "Voices" living in one's head, on the other hand, is something to seek professional help about. In the mid 1970's I went to a friend of a friend's house (someone older than the teenagers we were at the time and who had a real job). He had a nice stereo setup with Klipsch Heresys. It was the first time I was "impacted" by music that was forceful and loud, but without distortion. I got some more of that "feel" when a friend's dad help me build some floor standers with Altec Lansing 15" woofers and a horn tweeter that I sat on top of the cabinet with exposed crossover wires. They played awesome outside, when winging the Frisbee, drinking beer & eating oysters. Got me through college and sold them to a band. Only had bookshelf speakers since. If I end up with a house with a big enough room, perhaps I'll flash back. Thanks for the memories John and have a happy holiday!

  • @richardcomerford1828
    @richardcomerford18282 жыл бұрын

    I have a set of Forte III’s and completed that sound with a McIntosh MAC7200 receiver. Big, fat and definitely vintage. The sound is right where I want it.

  • @josh_wink
    @josh_wink2 жыл бұрын

    Polyimide is a type of polymer/plastic that has good flexural strength and very light compared to metals. This would benefit in a loudspeaker given the amount of vibration/movent of the driver.

  • @fernandoporres4810
    @fernandoporres48102 жыл бұрын

    Hello, John. Great Video. Thanks a lot for the content. Quite interested in your opinion about the Rega Planar 8. What phono stage are you using? Best regards.

  • @naturalverities
    @naturalverities2 жыл бұрын

    My ideal sound is uncannily natural in tonality, dynamics, and dimensionality, like someone who walks up behind you unnoticed and speaks and startles you with their presence.

  • @MikeYoungeasytravel
    @MikeYoungeasytravel2 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I noticed that you have a Lyngdorf TDAI 3400. I would be highly interested in a review in combination with the Lyngdorf FR-1 (mounted on the wall). Thanks in advance.

  • @dennismurray00
    @dennismurray002 жыл бұрын

    My ex BIL had a pair of JBL L100s and a Kenwood KA-3500 stereo integrated amplifier that is burned into my mind as ideal sound. I've been unsuccessfully chasing that sound since. I've often thought about buying those speakers and amplifier and instead have tried with modern equipment. This was in the 90s and we listened to vinyl, cassettes and CDs.

  • @liamo4
    @liamo42 жыл бұрын

    Hi John. Any possibility you could review the latest KLH Model 5 speaker. A modern iteration of a speaker in the vintage style.

  • @WeeWeeJumbo
    @WeeWeeJumbo2 жыл бұрын

    I superwant my own pair of these but I'd have to save up for, like, a year

  • @towertone
    @towertone2 жыл бұрын

    The Sound in MY Mind (apologies to Willie) is that of the Sansui Quad system inherited at 14 and kept alive for another 25 years, at which point my HiFi world was gone for over a decade. After getting some Wharfs EVOs, then KEF LS50s, and finally SVS Ultra towers for different rooms, I got two sets of vintage speakers. The smaller set had an 8" woofer and the larger, a 2 way horn w/ 10" woofer is a low end L-110/Heresy size that made me realize the difference between old and new styles. The only I can describe it is like having either convective central heat that warms the air around you, much like newer speakers put out accurate but sometimes clinical music while the older style are fuller, more radiant, which goes past the skin and warms your bones. I'm Hope(ing) one day to get the Forte IV and relive that FEEL of having the music go to the core of my senses.

  • @joaquinrubio3230
    @joaquinrubio32302 жыл бұрын

    Great review 👏I love my cerwin-vega sl-15 they give me everything I want but I love klipsch speakers

  • @keithwalker8090

    @keithwalker8090

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a friend that has his rig set up in his garage with Vegas XLS-215, powered by an integrated Yamaha amp, and as unrefined as they are, I always have a great listing session. So I understand your love for those Cerwin-Vegas.

  • @jeffdold4864
    @jeffdold48642 жыл бұрын

    The vintage sound to me is smooth and dynamic. Almost as if you're listening to a concert instead of a recording. The closest I have found are my Ohm Walsh 2 speakers.

  • @jimmyBside

    @jimmyBside

    Жыл бұрын

    Been see a bunch of vids on the Ohm, the last few weeks….never seen them B4 then. Fascinating….

  • @bill3931
    @bill39312 жыл бұрын

    Liked your video very much John. One of the first since refurbished the acoustics. Will you be doing a vid about the new sounding room, after a few more equipment vids? Has it made listening more involving? Re the Forte's, will you be running them with a low power valve amp, something like the Decware Zen?

  • @mostirreverent
    @mostirreverent2 жыл бұрын

    So many new speakers out, but so few places to hear them. through all these reviews I’m always wondering how the speakers compare to my late 80s ADS LL880s

  • @5angels332
    @5angels3322 жыл бұрын

    Good review John. Yes I am one of those with that ideal sound in my head and after 40 odd years am still searching for it. Few people commenting how ugly the Klipsch are, back in the 80's that was all we had to choose from. Fake wood or black ash, take it or leave it. Thanks for sharing, keep them coming.

  • @tonyperring
    @tonyperring2 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see a review of Martin Logan electrostatics.

  • @IrenESorius
    @IrenESorius2 жыл бұрын

    I think Iw got the speakers that fulfill my whishes,, a couple of Triangle Signature Theta with subwoofers. Their often described as "loudspeakers for tired audiophiles" and thats what I think of them. I bought them used and driving them with a NAD778, mostly for the DIRACS sake. Iw heard many speakers that are better, but also totaly out of my budget, so i try not to think about them. But those freaking Dynaudio Confidence 20,, pffffhhhhh,, they made me feel 101% relaxed,, and every peace of the puzzle just fell in to place and I fell asleep. I try extra hard not to think about them,, 🤪😂. Thank you John for being exactly who you are on this channel. An oasis in a desert. ❤️

  • @stucorbishley
    @stucorbishley2 жыл бұрын

    I have the exact same mental picture about my 'ideal sound' 😊

  • @GhostOfNihlus
    @GhostOfNihlus2 жыл бұрын

    Got some old Wharfedale Floorstanders, Denon receiver with Wolfson DAC, gives me joy. Would love to blast some Gunship on Klipsch Forte

  • @ptbfrch
    @ptbfrch2 жыл бұрын

    Two strong vintage memories: 1. Original pair of B&W 801s with top of the line Nakamichi separate amps was magical. 2. Early Paradigm around the time they purchased Spica, with Counterpoint amplification and a Kuzma turntable. I remember how effortless and certain it all sounded. Honorable mention: Infinity IRS V had such an impact on me, but I will never be able to even come close, so it remains a ver happy strong memory.

  • @19761999
    @1976199911 ай бұрын

    Those Zu Soul 6 speakers are gorgeous.

  • @brianbieniowski2777
    @brianbieniowski27772 жыл бұрын

    What a flex just casually dropping the needle on a new Planar 8. Quite an upgrade from your other decks, I would imagine. Would love to hear your [eventual?] thoughts on moving magnet vs. moving coil; I can't personally decide if I should open that particular pandora's box given my music tastes.

  • @kaplanyx
    @kaplanyx2 жыл бұрын

    What about tonal coloration in the mids? I am skeptical about the horns.

  • @SullivanValaer
    @SullivanValaer2 жыл бұрын

    I'd really love to be able to hear these speakers. My first memories of music are from my fathers Pioneer HPM-1500 powered by McIntosh MC-60 tube mono blocks he bought in the early 70's and I really haven't been able to find that sound ever again. My current setup with NAD C 368 and Focal Chorus 726 give me a huge amount of listening pleasure for the price but they certainly fall short of the nostalgic vintage sound that I remember from my dad's system. Sadly I can't afford new McIntosh tube amps but Im curious how current NAD C 368 integrated amp would pair with these speakers in your opinion John.

  • @juneenriquez1311
    @juneenriquez13112 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Saw your video abt forte 3 before buying my forte 4’s and just like your forte 3’s i put my(4’s) on wheels. My question is why not put your 4’s on wheels? Thanks in advance. Love your channel

  • @xb8slim
    @xb8slim2 жыл бұрын

    It warms my heart that you quest for that warm full sound too. I compete in car audio for sound quality and as I listen to other cars ( at the top of the game) I don't like how they sound. Dry... Lack of that bottom push. No fun to listen to. I on the other hand finally have this in my car. I'm sure most of these "bookshelf" speakers sound vocally amazing but if they don't fill the room below 60hz I just can't soak up the music like a good set of floor standers suck as these.

  • @suprgx472
    @suprgx4722 жыл бұрын

    The sound that lives in my head is the AR3a.

  • @carlitomelon4610
    @carlitomelon46102 жыл бұрын

    Magnepans with REL subs. Endgame. It's the sound I was seeking for 35 years! 🎶🤫🎶

  • @ld4974

    @ld4974

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which Magnepans with which REL? Any experience with the Martin Logan electrostatic speakers?

  • @marcopignone9386

    @marcopignone9386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried a Hypex based amp for 500 very good, but cheap watts? I have .7s with a Buckeye Amp and Schiit Freya plus, and Bifrost 2. Working well and nothing is crazy expensive. I have a REL in my other system, but too much bass in the Maggie room.

  • @BenX74
    @BenX742 жыл бұрын

    The sound that lives in my head is that of the JBL Everest DD67000 I heard some years ago at a show. Dynamics, precision, clarity, attack - all of these qualities came violently leaping at me from these beasts in the best of ways. They played Rammstein on those things - it was as if the God of the old testament was speaking to you.

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