"Kliot" Tapestry Loom from Lacis

How to assemble and use the Kliot Tapestry Table Loom from Lacis.com

Пікірлер: 65

  • @tashahasfun
    @tashahasfun4 жыл бұрын

    Feeling encouraged by your video and all the other folks who have been looking at their loom, like me, for two years having never used it. Thanks!

  • @vandinse
    @vandinse9 жыл бұрын

    So glad to see this. I got my loom about 2 years ago and had nearly given up because the instructions were not very good. I think this will help me finally get started!

  • @keeperofowls
    @keeperofowls3 жыл бұрын

    I wanted a loom until I saw this video. Now I just want a Tylenol for this headache...

  • @josephcollins3734
    @josephcollins37343 жыл бұрын

    Bought this years ago & watched the video. I put the loom in storage. I decided to watch the video again to give it one more try. Could the manufacture have made what should be a simple table top loom any more difficult? The instructional video seems like a skit from Saturday Night Live. It goes back in storage and up for sale Post Pandemic.

  • @RubyNightingaleone
    @RubyNightingaleone5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this tutorial. This is my first time working with a tapestry loom. Your tutorial helped me set up my new kilot tapestry loom, smoothly .

  • @bakpakgrl
    @bakpakgrl8 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for making this video! I read the instructions and got anxious right away! Can't wait to follow the video to set up my loom.

  • @JeffLearman
    @JeffLearman4 жыл бұрын

    HUGE help, thanks! The written instructions are not only difficult to follow (it's a hard job to explain this in text with just a few drawings!) but they are misprinted, with one of the figures obscuring the text beneath it. This video clears things up.

  • @mariannamicci-fritz141
    @mariannamicci-fritz1413 жыл бұрын

    Received the loom and found it very well constructed. I used the video to assemble it. Unfortunately, I would not recommend this loom. This looms makes what should be a simiple process very complicated.

  • @EiainLennon
    @EiainLennon9 жыл бұрын

    Finally bought one of these looms, and really want to get into making tapestries. Great video too, helped no end in getting started.

  • @annie07825
    @annie0782510 жыл бұрын

    I'm still confused. I wished the video was taken from over the top of the loom so you could actually see the warping. Thanks for doing this it does help a bit.

  • @y.maserang3010
    @y.maserang30109 жыл бұрын

    Is there a way you can do another video with the wrapping of the thread from above and slower? I think I may have figured it out but not sure. I have has my loom for almost 2 years and am finally trying to work with it. The written instructions are very confusing.

  • @samwithoutlimits7766
    @samwithoutlimits77666 жыл бұрын

    this is very complicated to me. I'm waiting for my loom to arrive and I'm feeling a little bit afraid i won't be able to set up the loom let alone use it to make the pictures I've selected. But purchuse has been made so I must go forward. I know it will be worth it but I just have to NOT give up. ths is the best instructional video that I have found so far except for the quality of the video in a part where it got really complicated but I will review it several more times before the loom arrives and hopefully I will feel more confident about this process

  • @eirika2001
    @eirika20015 жыл бұрын

    Amazing instructions thank you! This is actually easier than warping my 4 harness, I didn't expect that.

  • @JohnCobbgaywitch
    @JohnCobbgaywitch4 жыл бұрын

    I assumed I was smarter than this. 3 tries at warping, and I'm already planning a savings account for a Rigid Heddle Loom from Ashley. Instructions that came with the loom suck just as much as the video!

  • @HJKelley47

    @HJKelley47

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is so unfortunate that Lacis has not given thought to producing a better instructional video. They want you to buy their product, but the support necessary appears to be an after thought. He is so busy reading his 'script' he is oblivious to the fact that she is not in sync with his reading speed. He reminds me of an amateur actor auditioning for a part, and because of his nervousness, he is speed reading through it all. She is trying to keep up with him, and therefore, is not able to provide us with a clear picture of what she is doing in warping the yarn on the warping board. Wish they has a speed reading cop nearby to slow him down.

  • @rhysom
    @rhysom5 жыл бұрын

    Watched the video several times. Not the best but pretty clear if you do what he says one step at a time. Loom is perfectly fine, don’t know what all the confusion and frustration is. Maybe some beginners don’t realize warping almost any loom is usually a tricky job. Rubber bands seem fine to me - works fine. Got my loom perfectly warped in two hours the first time. Less than an hour second time. This is a sweet little loom.

  • @purplecleo
    @purplecleo6 жыл бұрын

    The rubber band situation is the worst part of this loom. I was just gifted this loom and while I am really excited to get started, I can already see that there are a few different, better ways to handle the heddles than this loud rubber band and block arrangement. I know this enables the company to sell the loom for cheaper than others, and I guess I can appreciate that since I would otherwise not have been able to afford one. :)

  • @lindabevan3464
    @lindabevan34647 жыл бұрын

    My loom has been looking at me for a few months and I gave up on the instructions, thank fully the video was easier to understand and I will be having ago tomorrow after I have wrapped my wafts

  • @4odyssey645
    @4odyssey6454 жыл бұрын

    Well my goodness, this is the first tutorial that frustrated and made my eyes cross, due to the speed and poor quality of the video. No disrespect intended.

  • @hunnybunny1961
    @hunnybunny19617 жыл бұрын

    All this just for weaving I made my own for a couple of bucks and its nothing so hard to make. Doing yours looks like we need a doctors degree.

  • @Lucy_Honeychurch
    @Lucy_Honeychurch7 жыл бұрын

    wow. so complicated. I almost bought one for my daughter but I'm glad I saw this first.

  • @nolimitmugen8867

    @nolimitmugen8867

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lucy Honeychurch 0

  • @DebiSunset

    @DebiSunset

    6 жыл бұрын

    that was actually a pretty simple loom

  • @bearhugzfam649
    @bearhugzfam6494 жыл бұрын

    Dude these instructions are TERRIBLE. Not as bad as the paper that comes with the kit bit still, my goodness. General advice - it took me four attempts and about 10 hours to work this out, and I've done weaving before including making my own looms so I mean I know how this stuff works. And I'm still not 100% confident with the outcome. Try and think of working it out as part of the fun, if you just want to make coasters then stick with crochet or a lap loom and come back to this when you want to feel like you accomplished something just by picking it up. Also note, the warp threads will wrap around the front AND BACK of the loom, meaning you can make some pretty long projects (about 59" or 150cm) but it's a bit confusing at the beginning when he talks about how many strands you'll need for your warp thread. From what I understand, he's saying you need to half your warp threads as though you'll be doubling them up (so if you need 48, only initially wrap 24) but that's not the case - you get what you wrap. Wrap 48, get 48, wrap 24, get 24. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something fundamental but you can clearly see in the video that half of the threads are held behind the loom/sheet of cardboard, and he does reference that he's making a 58" piece, which is fitting with him using warps that long. You'll see what I mean when you string it all up for the first time, but basically his poor explanation over-complicates it. Wrap 48, get 48, no halving, no multiplying, just wrap what you need (and maybe a couple of extras for the edges, that bit's still unclear). Before you start. Get some more elastic bands. This was non-negotiable for me because the four bands that came with mine all snapped when I first tried to use them, but you'll want some extras regardless. Also use lighter weight ones, and lots of them - 4 light rubber bands are better than one heavy duty rubber band, and it makes readjusting the threads easier because you can simply work under less tension by removing one of the light bands. You'll see what I mean when you're working, just trust me and grab a pack of regular rubber bands before you get started. Also, get some masking tape or similar, you'll use it to mark out the width of your work. In his example it's 4" so I'll stick with that. Basically you'll want a 4" gap between your tape so you can easily spread it out. This will also come in handy when you put the elastic bands on to lace it up, but I'll get to that later. Finally, make sure you have enough room to work. A floor is great, a table is great, your lap and bed can work (I did mine like that) but dropping one of the sticks on the floor will be an automatic game over so wherever you work make sure you're not likely to drop it or knock it off. Assembly is indeed pretty easy so let's skip ahead to where the dude is wrapping the threads (at like 3 to 4 minutes) and he's making sure they all lay side by side instead of overlapping. Turns out that's important. He won't say it's important, but it definitely seems to be. If you overlap them then later when you try to spread them out for your warp threads, you'll just have a tangled mess as they all trip over each other. You probably CAN fix it somewhere between the wrapping and the tension part where you spread it all out, but darned if I know how, and I'm pretty sure it's still gonna be more work than just not crossing them over in the first place. Next tip is the aforementioned tape. Measure your 4" on the short sticks and the ends of your loom when he mentions spreading out the warp threads. I did it this way and it was simple enough, but I get the feeling doing it beforehand would be even easier. Also if this paragraph is in red, I have no idea why, sorry 'bout that. Around 7:30 he'll have you secure rubber bands to the short rods, which are holding either end of your warp threads, and then lace them together, which is what will keep the tension in those warp threads while you work. What he won't mention is that if at any point your threads aren't properly spread out and your elastics aren't evenly spread, your work will ping off across the room and you'll have to start all over again . (Okay that's a slight exaggeration, but only a slight one. Suffice to say though balancing it properly is important.) This is where, once again, your tape lines are useful - you can simply put your elastic bands on the tape, re-spread your warp threads easily, and everything is nice and balanced. Something else around this point that he'll fail to mention is that even if you magically find a way to balance it all without properly spreading out your warp threads, spread out your warp threads anyway before you lace it, 'cause some of that lacing is gonna have to go between the warp threads and you won't be able to move said warp threads after it's laced, so if it's not properly spread out when it's laced, it'll never be properly spread out. When lacing, start from the middle and work your way out. If you're familiar with lacing a corset, it's kinda like that - double your cord, start in the middle of your work, and wrap out towards the ends. This will keep it well balanced. At around 8:30 you'll have your short bars on either side of the loom, i.e. one in the front and one in the back, both at the bottom (near the single peg). This is where they're gonna stay, so I stick a couple of rubber bands on the ends to hold them together, just helping out the lacing cord and keeping the ends secure so it wasn't wobbling around at all, and just in case the lacing cord snapped ('cause I'm an idiot who thought cheap acrylic yarn would do. It won't. Again if you're familiar with corsets and happen to have some corset cord lying around, I recommend that, that's what I'll be using next time). At around 8:30 you'll have your short bars on either side of the loom, i.e. one in the front and one in the back, both at the bottom (near the single peg). This is where they're gonna stay, so I stick a couple of rubber bands on the ends to hold them together, just helping out the lacing cord and keeping the ends secure so it wasn't wobbling around at all, and just in case the lacing cord snapped ('cause I'm an idiot who thought cheap acrylic yarn would do. It won't. Again if you're familiar with corsets and happen to have some corset cord lying around, I recommend that, that's what I'll be using next time). His explanation for chaining the warp threads (around 10 minutes) is horrible but at least it comes with some slightly better video and he slows down a tiny bit. Basically he's finger-knitting, which, if you don't know what that is, you can look up on KZread. If you're a crocheter, it's just a basic chain (you can also look up crochet chain if you think that'll be easier for you than looking up finger-knitting). If you're struggling with this bit, learn to finger-knit first (it's very easy with decent instructions) and practice that first away from the loom, then come back and re-watch him. Mute him maybe, his instructions are more confusing than helpful at least for me. With the heddle loops, when he says you need half of the number of warp threads or what have you, he's actually saying you need half of the number of TOP warp threads. So let's say you're doing a piece with 24 threads, that means you'll have 24 thread on the top and 24 on the back, and thus you'll need 12 11" loops and 12 10" loops, making a total of 24 for the top warp threads. If you don't get it that's cool just make a crap tonne of loops, better to have too many than not enough, but this isn't a part that will punish you if you have to put it down and make more so relax it's cool. From there it's pretty straightforward - loop and hook everything, assemble the heddle (that's fairly easy, you might just have to watch him a few times rather than trying to actually listen to him) and have fun with your weaving.

  • @JeffLearman

    @JeffLearman

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lots of great advice, but you're mistaken about the thread / loop count. If I have 10 loops, then 10 loops go around the short bar where we tie the chain hitch. When we tie the chain hitch (see video at 10:25), we're tying 20 strands. (If there was one loop, there would be two strands.) All these strands are on top of the frame. There is another set that goes below (at the other ends of the loops), so if we removed the cardboard and counted ALL strands we'd see four times as many as there are loops. Ditto about the heddle count. The correct amount is double the number of loops. You had me convinced, but now I find my 4 TPI plan is going to be 8 TPI!

  • @joenperkins2138
    @joenperkins21387 жыл бұрын

    So glad to see this video thanks so much

  • @LoriPowers2006
    @LoriPowers20067 жыл бұрын

    This video needs to be redone, it's degraded and pixelates (sp?) in area's that makes it hard to view. Plus you need to go slower and make sure to have the camera ABOVE the table so we can see what is being done. Plus there needs to be alot more information available for this loom online, either from another website or on YOUR website. If your going to have this as a product you sell the least you can do is HELP your customers. I'm beginning to think that this was a bad purchase, no wonder it was cheaper than all the others I looked at.

  • @HJKelley47

    @HJKelley47

    7 жыл бұрын

    Lori, have you had any success with this loom recently? I continually see many negative comments about this loom, and about the company's poor customer service. I've only seen two reviews on Amazon that were not negative, showing pictures of work in progress

  • @LoriPowers2006

    @LoriPowers2006

    7 жыл бұрын

    I've been having a hard time getting the warp strings on it. I'm not really happy with it right now. I'm still working on it though. I'm hoping once i get the warp strung i will change my mind

  • @JeffLearman

    @JeffLearman

    4 жыл бұрын

    I also had trouble with occasional pixellation, dropouts, and video freezing while audio continues. But I hit left-arrow on my keyboard which backs up and replays what I just missed and I manage to get the idea.

  • @tamiraelhiba2576
    @tamiraelhiba25765 жыл бұрын

    wow ; so nice and easy .thank you sir

  • @Lee-sx9oc
    @Lee-sx9oc Жыл бұрын

    Ahhhh.... can you list what we need to purchase with it? I don't know what to get in order to begin. 🙄😵‍💫🤯🥴😵

  • @izzyman556
    @izzyman5563 жыл бұрын

    President Snow from the hunger games gives confusing loom directions.

  • @Mystichandworks
    @Mystichandworks9 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Is there a way to warp this loom so the tension may be adjusted as needed for "take up"? I find tapestry weaving needs frequent minor tension adjustments to prevent the warp from getting too tight and breaking.

  • @Mystichandworks

    @Mystichandworks

    9 жыл бұрын

    Mystic Handworks I assume the lashing cord could be loosened a tad and retied to allow for take-up. I guess I answered my own question.

  • @JeffLearman

    @JeffLearman

    4 жыл бұрын

    Turn the frame end bars. See the video at 14:50, where they loosen it to advance.

  • @sarahdicus850
    @sarahdicus8506 жыл бұрын

    I'm looking for any personal tips or tutorials anyone commenting here may have gathered in their experience with this loom. It is my twentieth birthday gift and I am bound and determined to learn to use it. I may never receive such an expensive investment in my art career again. I will make this work with all available resources.

  • @TheRobinBull
    @TheRobinBull6 жыл бұрын

    Could you slow down and do a video closer to the hands? I've watched this probably 40 times in 3 days and I have only managed to successfully wrap the thread once and it's still not laying right.

  • @eugeniasuryapranata3551
    @eugeniasuryapranata35514 жыл бұрын

    I want to buy this but is it easy tools, plz help me need an answer. Thank you.

  • @PreppyYankee
    @PreppyYankee9 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking of getting this as a starter loom but my attention deficit disorder has proved that this would not be a wise decision. Is there a simpler loom for a true beginner to get?

  • @rigidheddleweaving

    @rigidheddleweaving

    9 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Make your own. Anything that holds warp under tension is a loom. I started weaving by watching this video and progressed from there by searching the internet and my local libarary for more information. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pn6gw9qao8iWdpM.html

  • @PinkAndTheKeytarCat
    @PinkAndTheKeytarCat4 жыл бұрын

    Well, I don't have this loom, but I did use the instructions to DIY my own out of a picture frame, so I dont' know what that says about the product or the instructions but I know that I"ve had way too much coffee.

  • @vikidavis7215
    @vikidavis72154 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Sue. I am not giving up yet, but I can't slow down a video, I don't have the capability.

  • @chrysoulaskorda2845
    @chrysoulaskorda28457 жыл бұрын

  • @reaseAable
    @reaseAable7 жыл бұрын

    please redo and speak slower even slowing down speed

  • @sarahdicus850

    @sarahdicus850

    6 жыл бұрын

    It is possible to change the video speed. I tried that, but it didn't help me much, honestly. I'll definitely be taking a day off from handling this challenge.

  • @speedyhoward7577
    @speedyhoward75778 жыл бұрын

    You will never get any help from this company. They don't respond to your comments.I have their bead loom and the tutorial is horrible. They will sell you the loom. Then, unfortunately, you're totally on your own. Sorry.

  • @josephcollins3734

    @josephcollins3734

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree totally. I spoke with owner/designer and he just said, "Watch the KZread video"

  • @ilovehorses5714
    @ilovehorses57147 жыл бұрын

    Oh, my gosh! I hate this loom! Talk about an exercise in frustration! It needs to be a rigid heddle, too. Anyway, I'm glad for the video, the paper instructions were terrible. Even if the video, you it's a bit hard to see you warp it. Ugh.

  • @ilovehorses5714

    @ilovehorses5714

    7 жыл бұрын

    There also needs to be some kind of indentation in the wood so you can place each strand of you warp, etc. to serve as a guide .

  • @larrycockerham105

    @larrycockerham105

    6 жыл бұрын

    Prabtirce and you whuel det good

  • @rhysom

    @rhysom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Melody Loves Horses lol! “Needs to be rigid heddle”. Huh!? If you want a rigid heddle you should buy a rigid heddle. This uses string heddle like Navajo looms and many others. And works just fine!

  • @rhysom

    @rhysom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Melody Loves Horses I added my own little knicks with a small file every 1/2 inch.

  • @amr4211

    @amr4211

    4 жыл бұрын

    Melody Loves Horses, then you wouldn’t be able to choose how finely you wanted to weave, though. I specifically chose this loom because it does NOT have indentations.

  • @vikidavis7215
    @vikidavis72154 жыл бұрын

    Forget this video. He goes so fast you can't keep up. I had to pause and pause and finally figured it out using the written directions. He knows how to do it and he goes terribly fast.

  • @suelocke3494

    @suelocke3494

    4 жыл бұрын

    Viki Davis Try slowing down the speed of playback to 50% if you are able to do that. Then you can follow what is happening and hear what he is saying. It will still require careful watching to follow the warping path. The written instructions are rubbish and not even grammatically correct. I imagine if you were a seasoned Weaver this would make sense. I nearly lost my mind trying to set this up, I certainly lost my patience. Eight arms would be helpful keeping those elastic bands in place. I am determined to make this work.

  • @amyeverett2450
    @amyeverett24502 жыл бұрын

    This is so confusing. I'm a very crafty person and have been crocheting for over 30 years. It's going to take watching the video a couple of tries to get this working.

  • @Witchlinblue
    @Witchlinblue3 жыл бұрын

    I'll stick to spinning. I think you lost me at DMC. Please don't take offense, this is the last of many videos that easily had my brain hurting. My spinning and I get along great.

  • @bonnieg5580
    @bonnieg55802 жыл бұрын

    ???

  • @reaseAable
    @reaseAable7 жыл бұрын

    if nothing else built in warping lol

  • @pjlightning1995
    @pjlightning19959 жыл бұрын

    Easily assembled? No it's not. 3 attempts so far to decipher the instructions and still no success. Hopefully this film will help. ...watches it...... or not! And I don't actually have a table.

  • @pjlightning1995

    @pjlightning1995

    9 жыл бұрын

    Well I have, FINALLY got it warped. Sliding the sticks doesn't automatically align the threads, (more like automatically knot them) but after a lot of fiddling I got them sorted. Err wrapping thread around a 4 inch cardboard does not give you 10 inch threads. For anyone watching, try a paperback instead of cardboard. One of my stainless steel rat books gave me 10 inch threads, and an Anne McCaffrey novel was the right thickness for 11 inch. Several things seem to be missing from this kit: there was no lashing thread, and there is no shuttle, so having got it warped, I now have to order a shuttle. Yee gods! Was it worth it?

  • @sarahdicus850

    @sarahdicus850

    6 жыл бұрын

    If you have any tips for working with this, I'd appreciate hearing it from someone who knows and has already endured the struggle. I'm currently on the hunt for personal experiences with this that I can translate into a better experience for myself. This little nightmare is my twentieth birthday gift, and I'll be damned if I let it get the best of me.

  • @bearhugzfam649

    @bearhugzfam649

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sarahdicus850 if you still need help check the comments again, I'm putting my notes up.