This is the best first-person-shooter game walk-through on KZread. The graphics are so real, and the suspense had me on the edge of my seat! Can’t wait for the boss-battle in part 2! (But seriously, thanks for this great real-world demo of that impressive Klein tool)

@mikestoolfun

Жыл бұрын

Its gold! We service a lot of home depots and non of their panels are labelled.. we’ve found ccts across the store!

Thanks

Great video. Looks very interesting. How does it do if you want to find the breaker that it’s on? Can it isolate the breaker in a panel? Thank you.

I see it jumps from 240 right to 480. Will this also work with 208 and 277 circuits?

@mikestoolfun

2 жыл бұрын

It will work with any voltage under 480V. We deal with 600V/347V, 120V/208V, and 110V/240V here in in Canada. I can connect the tracer to one phase of the 600V knife disconnect, (which would be a 347V phase) and trace it back to the 600V panel, and/or fused disconnect. There is a bit of a learning curve with this tool. For example, its good to ground off of a different circuit from the one you are tracing. This prevents the magnetic field from being cancelled on the line, which allows for a stronger signal to reach the tracer.

I need to locate an underground pump tank that I'm guessing is 3' down - just dirt, no concrete or cover. Based on your experience do you think this could pick up a signal that deep?

@mikestoolfun

Жыл бұрын

Im not sure if it will. Ive picked up the faint signal of wire that was buried, but to find a pump tank might be a bit more difficult. This tool is only a $250.00 canadian tracer. What you want is a more powerful locator. To buy one they can go as high as $10,000.00. You might be able to rent one for the one time use.

Doesn't the transmitter have to be perpendicular to the dirt to get the correct signal?

@mikestoolfun

Жыл бұрын

It does. I was experimenting with different methods to see which works best. The tool has a big learning curve which I am still a student of.

Thankyou for sharing this video. Just a couple question here- 1. Can this tool also work for tracing the other end of Telephone line/ Internet cable and Signal cable ? 2. if it can trace Telephone line/ Internet cable and Signal cable , can the cable be on energized or or has to be de-energized? Thankyou

@mikestoolfun

11 ай бұрын

The tool sends a signal down an energized or de-energized cable. Whether its cat5, cat6, etc. its good from 0V-480V. You just clip the leads onto the bare conductor and the receiver will pickup the signal at the other end. You may have to play with the sensitivity settings, but it should pick it up. The tool has a big learning curve. Many people use it and get upset cause it doesn’t function like the $7000.00 circuit tracer. So keep that in mind as well. You will just have to practice with it, listen for the various beeps, some are weaker than others. The tool works great for me, I know a few people that swear by it. I have roughly a 90% success rate when using it. Cheers

@edra1837

11 ай бұрын

@@mikestoolfun Thankyou for your information, Just another question: say if Point A = outlet box, and Point B is the breaker switch that is connected to it at the electric panel. This tool is very useful to track down which breaker(Point B) the circuit is connected to from an outlet box(Point A) by plugging the transmitter at Point A, and use the Reciever to find the correct breaker (Point B) at the electric panel. But can I do it the otherway around? For example, I connect the receiver to the breaker switch screw with the alligator clip at Point B, and use the reciever to track down the other end(Point A) which is either an open circuit or close circuit. will this work ? thankyou

@mikestoolfun

11 ай бұрын

@@edra1837 you can take the wire off the breaker and attached the alligator clips to is and wonder around with the receiver until you find the out. This could take awhile. Especially in a large facility. (I mostly use this in commercial facilities)

@edra1837

11 ай бұрын

@@mikestoolfun roger .. thanks for the info

Do these work on an un-energized circuit? I have a wire in a wall that was hooked up and energized in an outlet, it went from my upstairs to my down stairs and it is no longer energized but I have no idea where it goes, it has no power itself when all breakers are on and all outlets and lights work down stairs. I will be closing up this wall soon and don't know what to do with this wire, my basement is finished and so not obvious where it goes, I'm not sure if it fed something that no longer exist? I'm not sure if I should just wire nut it and bury it? Any thoughts I'd appreciate it! Thanks

@mikestoolfun

8 ай бұрын

It does trace de-energized circuits. A couple of things could have caused the wire to de-energize. 1. The wire was removed from its feed during your reno. Did you delete any outlets when you opened up the wall? 2. A mouse chewed through the wire. It can be possible that a mouse chewed the wire somewhere. Ive run into this many times. 3. The wire is one a light switch somewhere. Go around your whole house and turn on all the light switches. Ive also run into this scenario. The owner installed a light-switch and put the line on the load side. So when you turned off the lights two receptacles would turn off. If you have a voltage mete with resistance/continuity testing, see if you have continuity between the white and ground. That could be an indicator whether the wire is tied to a circuit that goes back to the panel.

@skylark4901

8 ай бұрын

@@mikestoolfun Awesome thanks for the reply! My description was probably bad, it's deenergized now because I unhooked from the outlet which I am moving, I just don't know where it goes to because nothing seems to be effect by me detaching it, another person mentioned doing a continuity test which I never thought of so thanks for that! Have a great Thanksgiving!🍻

@skylark4901

8 ай бұрын

@@mikestoolfun BTW, I get zero continuity when checking between white and ground, or any other configuration for that matter, thanks again

@mikestoolfun

8 ай бұрын

@@skylark4901 if you are getting no continuity from neutral to ground, its cut somewhere. You could have an open neutral, or the wire does not run back to the panel. Theres a few more options to check but that involves going into your electrical panel. You would have to shut the power off to the electrical panel. (Shut main breaker off). Connect the black wire to the ground in that wire. (The wire that is hanging in your wall) MAKE SURE YOUR PANEL MAIN BREAKER IS TURNED OFF Go to your panel and check continuity from hot to ground on each breaker. (The black wire connected to the breaker) and see if you pick up continuity there. If you pick up continuity, go back to the wire in the wall, separate the ground from black, and check in the panel again to see if you still pick up continuity on the same breaker wire. Side note. If you have any ballast fixtures in your house, you could pick up a low resistance on the line wires. This is what I would do if I was tracing the wire and didnt have a circuit tracer, I do highly recommend you get an electrician for this. Cheers

@skylark4901

8 ай бұрын

@@mikestoolfun Thank you for all of this valuable information and your concerns, I did completely gut my upstairs and downstairs with the exception of that one wall upstairs and had most of the electrical redone by a licensed electrician, so who knows what happened there, I may try this but I decided at least I'll put it in a box with a plate so I can finish thins up for now. 👍 Thanks again.

I have a 120v circuit that is shorting somewhere, but having a hard time finding where. Will the et450 help find the location of the short?

@mikestoolfun

Жыл бұрын

It’s sort of possible . Finding dead shorts in general are tough. Its main purpose is to tracer/find breakers. You can find broken wires as well, but finding the cause of a short is more tricky… Once you have located where the wire it is and which devices it attaches to, you then need to start disconnecting devices and doing a continuity check to see which direction the short is. The ET450 is great at locating breakers, wires, etc by sending a signal down the wire. It will help with locating the devices the wire is attached to. You would then have to switch to your voltage meter and go from there. Kleins customer service might be able to have a better answer for you on this question. I ve used the tracer to find wire, and sometimes it will locate where the wire is broken, but I haven’t used it to find a dead short. I already know which devices are not working, and which breaker is tripped.. I just start the process of disconnecting the dead devices and doing a continuity test with my meter to narrow down my search. (Most times its a bad device causing the short.)

How good is this at finding lost neutrals or hots. Like you half the circuit is on and the other half has no power. Have you tried using this tool for that

@mikestoolfun

13 күн бұрын

@@ObmanaCare (open neutral) I clamped one lead onto the neutral in a receptacle and clamped the other lead on a ground from a different cct. I was able to trace in a wall up to a light in the ceiling. The signal did not continue on. So i removed the light fixture and discovered the neutrals were not twisted and one was loose in the marratte which was causing the open neutral to occur. Basically the line came from the panel to the octagon in the ceiling and branched out from there. The homeowner waited until i figured out the problem that he recently changed the light fixture.

What if you have an old house and no ground wire to any outlets?

@mikestoolfun

Жыл бұрын

You can connect line to neutral.

Can the transmitter be connected to the line side of a 3 phase sub panel to locate where it is connected to the main panel?

@mikestoolfun

2 жыл бұрын

It can be connected to the line side, as long as its under 480V We use 347V/600V in Canada, which means I can only connect to one phase to trace it.

@Marc-mp6lf

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikestoolfun your connection is red on any phase and black on ground? Is the ground from main panel will be used base on the manual?

@mikestoolfun

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marc-mp6lf lets say you have a 600V 3PH disconnect, no neutral, and you want to trace the cct back to a main panel somewhere else in the building. You can connect one lead to one of the phases and the other lead to ground in the disconnect. Go and locate a 600V panel/disconnect and scan the breakers/fuses. If you dont find it there, check for another panel/disconnect. You want to be on the ground that would run back to the panel. Same for machinery. Connect to one of the leads to one phases in the machinery, and the other to ground… Keep in mind that this is a $250.00CAD tool. If you need something more powerful, you can look at the Amprobe AT-6020 series tracers. Some scanners can go well over $5000.00CAD

@Marc-mp6lf

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikestoolfun thank you for your answer. Last question, what is the longest circuit that you already trace? I want to use it from 40th floor to basement of a building. Thus the length of the circuit affects the accuracy?

@mikestoolfun

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marc-mp6lf the longest I have done so far has been about 100’ away. It was a de-energized single phase cct, and it found it. If you end up trying it on that building, let us know how it works. 😎😎

How accurate is for energized circuits?. For example for receptacles that have PCs connected

@mikestoolfun

Жыл бұрын

So far the accuracy is close to 95% on energized and 80-90% on de-energized circuits. Energized: the signal is very strong and a bit more accurate to locate. If you attach the common to a circuit that shares a neutral (ex 3 phase), the receiver will sometimes pick up the other breakers. Its rare this happens, but I have experienced it. I have not tried this With a PC attached and running. I am not sure if there would be any additional interference with the signal from the frequency given off of the PC. I will have to plug in my kids computer and see what happens. I would attach the common lead to a ground of a different circuit if I was running into issues locating the breaker/wires. De-energized: the further away from the device the weaker the signal. Keep in mind that this is a $250.00CAD tracer as compared to $1000.00 plus for the others on the market. If you want a 100% accurate, you are looking at the $4000.00-$8000.00 range. Some of the other smaller ones by Green-lee and Amprobe range from $1000.00-$2500.00

@LuisAngel-qc2ro

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the answer. I didn't know there are even more expensive ones.

Which store did you buy it from?

@mikestoolfun

Жыл бұрын

I purchase all of my Klein Tools from Oscan Electrical Supplies. They are located in Canada. Any Klein Tool Supplier will carry it, or be able to order it.

@mfill5043

Жыл бұрын

@@mikestoolfun I'm in Canada, I've never heard of them. I'll look them up, thanks.

@mikestoolfun

Жыл бұрын

@@mfill5043 they are located in Peterborough Ontario and Oshawa Ontario. They are a small family owned business. I try to only purchase from small local businesses. All of my Klein tools and Ideal brand tools are from oscan.ca All of my Milwaukee brand tools are from markham-industrial.com They are located in Markham Ontario and Pickering Ontario

@williamhibbs8925

Жыл бұрын

A dedicated electric supply house either has them or can direct get them. I paid 277.00 for mine in savannah ga.

I’ve seen that the smaller ones say they need to be de energized before tracing. Is that not the case with this model ?

@mikestoolfun

4 ай бұрын

The ET-450 will trace energized and de-energized ccts

@Gelo760

4 ай бұрын

@@mikestoolfun thank you

Does it work through air better? My pipes are in the ceiling 20' or more up

@mikestoolfun

3 ай бұрын

I haven’t tried it. I have traced the conductor that was in the conduit by running the receiver along the pipe. The further away from the conductor, the weaker the signa

Would it work to find a single tracer wire that is buried with a water line?

@mikestoolfun

5 ай бұрын

It might. I have roughly a 90% success rate with the tracer. Its not a high end tracer that costs $7000. Its a $250.00 tracer that works really well.

How much for this tracer ?

@mikestoolfun

2 жыл бұрын

Its $250 Canadian.. not sure the USD.

@kkk-se8dl

Жыл бұрын

200 u.s

@jeremycasper5181

Жыл бұрын

230 plus tax just got one today

@Retro2502

Ай бұрын

309.99 here in Canada where I'm at.

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