Kingdom hearts: Sora has to be the master of masters

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  • @Final_RPG
    @Final_RPG Жыл бұрын

    PLEASE READ!!!Couple of thing’s to add to this is actually what I wanted to say in the video I didn’t know how to convey it though entirely but sora when he rewrote all the timelines in the realties stated by Nomura he wins in every outcome and I believe that the master of masters is the one time line that failed and had everything go wrong for him and he’s trying to stop his own paradox from occurring in the first place. ANOTHER NOTE xehanort also would be surprised when hearing this name don’t forget y’all sora is a piece on the chess board in dark road in both games they play so he also could have heard his name from this set piece as well just something that has been floored and hidden possibly. But all In all its just a good old fun theory nonetheless so I hope you all enjoyed and stick around for my crazy videos. EDIT THIS IS DEDICATED TO MY PERVIOUS VIDEO ON THE MASTER OF MASTERS IM GLAD IT DID SO WELL THANK YOU ALL I’M SO HAPPY YOU ALL LOVED IT! EDIT EDIT: someone has told me and kinda had known I have a few times of dead air where I’m not speaking and I should have added something to let you guys hear but I couldn’t just take ray chase’s voice from damos video cause that would be stealing so I apologize on my behalf for those parts on the video hopefully it can be forgiven

  • @TheMasterofMasters1

    @TheMasterofMasters1

    Жыл бұрын

    "May your hearts be your guiding key."

  • @8-bitskull

    @8-bitskull

    Жыл бұрын

    i would agree with the idea, but i believe Young Xehanorts V.A confirmed he knows the M.O.M's identity, and did confirm its not a name we've heard of

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    ⁠@@8-bitskull it was never confirmed by any va or if it was a name we heard of its been silent since 2013 unfortunately

  • @user-lm5ez7jx9h

    @user-lm5ez7jx9h

    Жыл бұрын

    I personally think Cloud strife is the master of masters, the voice is similar and the clothing was speaking volumes of cloud being abused. Second thing, he is trying to overcome the darkness in his heart in kingdom hearts 2 and sephiroth was the main chute for that deposit of anger. But what was cloud seeing in Sephiroth that the community doesn’t see?

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-lm5ez7jx9hlol i do think that we will see cloud again really on Saturday when I live stream I’ll show you guys something that was very interesting to me and maybe you all will flip out once I point it out it’s some cool stuff

  • @MrNobo15
    @MrNobo15 Жыл бұрын

    The master of masters is Sora's mom. She's had it up to here with his cold dinner.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    That dinner is dusted loll

  • @rainick

    @rainick

    Жыл бұрын

    Master of Masters = MOM As in SORA'S MOM!

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rainick the story old as time 😂

  • @k-lostmaster7821

    @k-lostmaster7821

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @rafaelrobles8803

    @rafaelrobles8803

    Жыл бұрын

    Ong

  • @purpleirken1529
    @purpleirken1529 Жыл бұрын

    I honestly don't care who the Master of Masters would turn out to be I just love the guy. Whether he is a being of Light, Sora, or someone completely different it doesn't matter. What matters to me is the execution and explanation, basically what it means for the story as a whole.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too I love this comment!

  • @freelands8355
    @freelands8355 Жыл бұрын

    I'd like the Master of Masters to be someone new. The last thing I personally want is another Sora. We've got like fifty already

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    To each there own I'm just excited for the games 😄

  • @the_armada5579
    @the_armada5579 Жыл бұрын

    I think the MoM is actually soras mom. Think about it, MoM is spelled the same as mom, and the whole plan is to get sora back for dinner!

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    FACTS FACTS!!! LOL

  • @Dragzilla66

    @Dragzilla66

    Жыл бұрын

    🍽 Hopefully she kept air frying his old dinner! 🤣

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Dragzilla66 she got sucked up by the universal black hole and got folded in kh1 lmao

  • @Dragzilla66

    @Dragzilla66

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Final_RPG True! That did happened. 😂💀

  • @ng6635

    @ng6635

    Ай бұрын

    Sora, Dinners ready!

  • @GottaFistDemAll
    @GottaFistDemAll Жыл бұрын

    After watching the video: *"Ok, I believe you."*

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    LMAOO 😂

  • @shockwave2657
    @shockwave2657 Жыл бұрын

    I think sora is a wild goose chase because this is too convenient, if the community believes he’s the MOM then go right ahead.

  • @ChZenOnE
    @ChZenOnE Жыл бұрын

    MoM is Sora's Mom wanting revenge for him missing dinner

  • @matthew1st

    @matthew1st

    Жыл бұрын

    And the dinner itself is in the black box

  • @Liokid20
    @Liokid20 Жыл бұрын

    My personal idea is that master of masters is the sora who never got the chance to save everyone after they died so somehow he got sent towards the beginning of time and has just changed

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Read my pinned comment I said this as well!

  • @emoneyhardy1756
    @emoneyhardy1756 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe the MoM is just the version of Sora that was consumed by the darkness when the world was consumed by darkness

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Look at the pinned comment I talked about this similar to what u said

  • @shareefhaddad2377
    @shareefhaddad2377 Жыл бұрын

    As long as it’s not the mainline Sora, but an alternate future version who either never had long(enough)term friendships or lost all faith in friendship, I’m fine.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah this is exactly what I said in my pinned comment check it

  • @RonaldPoe
    @RonaldPoe Жыл бұрын

    I'm huge KH fan and like your explanations but I disagree with the theory itself. Sora and the Master of Masters aren't that similar. Sora's not a manipulator at all and rarely even plans ahead. He's also incredibly loyal to his friends and would never ever sacrifice them no matter how jaded he got. MOM plans on sacrificing the Foretellers to stop the Darkness (a plan Sora wouldn't ever go along with, let alone come up with). Their main similarities are both being goofballs at times but MOM is much more of a ham. Also Sora never officially became a Keyblade Master. Nomura probably wouldn't go with a popular fan theory anyway. My theory is the Master of Masters is supposed to be the KH version of Lucifer (the Devil, not the cat from Cinderella). He's a being constantly associated with Light (Lucifer is Latin for Lightbringer or Morning Star) but has connections to the embodiment of Darkness. He's also a charismatic manipulator and intellectual who's implied to be hundreds of years old. His apprentices are named after the Seven Deadly Sins and he presumably represents Pride. Also Master of Masters sounds a lot like King of Kings (Jesus' title in the Book of Revelation).

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    no worries thank you for watching regardless it means a ton even if it is just theory and that's kind enough of you to share your own opinions and look on thing's

  • @Mariofan10EX

    @Mariofan10EX

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a pretty good theory

  • @derschaff787

    @derschaff787

    Жыл бұрын

    His symbol implies exactly that. It's an heart with an angel and an Devil wing. It would fit pretty well

  • @OrganizationXIII

    @OrganizationXIII

    Жыл бұрын

    Nomura would never go this dark with kingdom hearts sadly! His dark game would of been final fantasy versus 13! Maybe Verum Rex can be the game versus 13 wasn’t!

  • @draklen2244
    @draklen224421 күн бұрын

    This theory is bunk for several reasons. The biggest being that the master is very clever and manipulative while Sora is about as dumb as a rock.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    21 күн бұрын

    I think you lack the education to make a statement for several reasons. This is a theory for 1 for 2 sora is not in hindsight it’s called adding charismatic moments to the character. And 3 people grow dawg ur talking about a 15 yr old and a grown up

  • @draklen2244

    @draklen2244

    21 күн бұрын

    @@Final_RPG Sora is 15. If he were going to become a Machiavellian mastermind, we would have seen the signs by now. The master has no trouble sacrificing his so called friends in order to further his own goals. This alone puts Sora out of the equation as it runs counter to his entire character and would be roundly rejected by the fanbase. Nomura knows this and he's not stupid enough to try. And once again, Soras intelligence comes into play. Sora is a typical bumbling anime protagonist. He doesn't have the intelligence to come up with contingency after contingency. He's a pure hearted idiot who's going to win by the power of friendship. He's not as deep a character as you're trying to make him. Lets go over the gazing eye. One of your main arguments is that he had to have prior knowledge due to the fact that he hadn't given Luxu the eye yet but still had the information from the future to write down in the book of prophecy. Except that's not how the eye would work at all. It relays him the information at any given point from the future that it can see meaning he wouldn't have to have given Luxu the eye for it to already be working. Also Xehanort claimed he never found out who the master was. If it was Sora I'm pretty sure that line wouldn't exist unless of course he somehow forgot the name of one of his largest benefactors. More likely they blanked the name because its a major character we haven't been introduced to yet otherwise Xehanort would know the masters identity. You mentioned that Soras keyblade imagery is everywhere but that doesn't mean much considering his keyblade is literally a part of the x-blades design. This goes completely unmentioned in the game. Nomura just throws that thing around like candy so it being on Yozora's design means nothing whatsoever. This is just the argument off the top of my head. If I cared enough to actually do deep dive into the lore I'm sure I could bury your theory even deeper. Piece of advice, don't question someone's intelligence or education just because they disagree with you. Its a good way to lose a fanbase.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    20 күн бұрын

    @@draklen2244 I don’t really care brotha

  • @felipemorgado

    @felipemorgado

    17 күн бұрын

    "I think you lack the education to make a statement 🤓☝️" thats you bro, wtf....

  • @bigbang8739

    @bigbang8739

    5 күн бұрын

    @@Final_RPG🤓

  • @Pannopap
    @Pannopap Жыл бұрын

    I don't think the MoM is literally Sora. I think he's supposed to be a parallel to Sora. So the similarities are probably there to make him a foil to Sora.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel that to each there own man!

  • @az_iz_to7458
    @az_iz_to7458 Жыл бұрын

    The Master of Masters might be Sora's Ancestor

  • @AxeloftheKey
    @AxeloftheKey Жыл бұрын

    Basically, here's my thoughts about MoM. We have a cutscene where he tells his name to Xehanort. *We* are not allowed to hear it. The simple question is: Why aren't we allowed to hear it? If MoM's name is not one we've heard already, or not obviously connected to/similar to a character we know, then eventually learning his name will make it seem really stupid why it was kept from us in the first place. The reason to tease his name, unless Nomura has just completely lost his mind (very possible), is that it will mean something when we hear it. It really could be anything, he could be tied to a lot of characters. But it being Sora just makes sense with how Nomura ties Sora into everything.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly that is what I’m saying I’m glad you enjoyed it and stuck around thank you so much for sticking around and commenting I really appreciate the feed back!

  • @phoenixraven5692

    @phoenixraven5692

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Final_RPGWe appreciate you!

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@phoenixraven5692 thank you man 🙏

  • @patlabsgaming5329
    @patlabsgaming53292 ай бұрын

    It’s Kairi. This is where all her character development went.

  • @RoxasRamirez
    @RoxasRamirez Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, this is one that would just blow me away but if it did ever happen, but its gotta have a badass reveal. you know what i mean? As a theory, this one truly is fun to believe in. But for the sake of original content, i don't 'want' it to be ya know? Like I'd rather see a new original character that adds more lore and depth to the series. I would like to explore his past. Seeing these friends and ones he loved die and not to be seen for years and just his youth really. How he engaged with other hearts. How he even managed to cope and greive alone and just dedicate so much to fighting a war with darkness and not falling in it (that we know of) in the first place. He's a strong character, with clearly a strong heart. Anways, in short I hope not but would love to see it if fleshed out well. Also, what do you think of Sora ever being a villain? Pretty badass to me but i don't think mommy Disney would ever want him to be and would deny papa nomura. (Why the f**k did i type that? Cringe as hell)

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol I see what you’re trying to say but Riku became evil and he’s in the same boat as sora and sora does have massive darkness the one pulled out from Xehanort during there battle when he was in rage form it literally shook kingdom hearts so I think it would definitely be badass and I think it would need to be a grand reveal if it does ever happen to be this way!

  • @jeremysteinmark2845
    @jeremysteinmark2845 Жыл бұрын

    Sora is absolutely the MoM

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Right it seems so but if he is or isn’t it’s okay as long as my boy be whooping ass that’s my guy

  • @TaigaGalette
    @TaigaGalette Жыл бұрын

    sora cant even figure out his shoe size 1 thing ata time ok

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Loll

  • @Valentien23

    @Valentien23

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmaoo

  • @OtterloopB
    @OtterloopB Жыл бұрын

    It's obviously Max Goof. The entire saga of Kingdom Hearts was a convoluted plan on Max's part to keep himself out of prison after inadvertently killing that security guard at the end of A Goofy Movie...

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude you know what me and my friends joked about this but it is literally canon that goofy accidentally killed his wife cause he took a picture of her and she fell off the grand canyon cause he told her to step back more for the photo. Max is the master of masters because he wants to kill his father and friends to make him feel pain 🤣🤣🤣🤣☠️

  • @smoothsoulbrotha
    @smoothsoulbrotha Жыл бұрын

    The MoM is Nomura. His only purpose is to provide entertainment for the real world. This is why he chose a world that resembles our own, knowing that Sora would be oblivious to this fact.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Nomura is giving sora’s dinner that his mom never gave him

  • @josh-uqb
    @josh-uqb Жыл бұрын

    Banger! This one might as well blow up like the previous one, you went over it smoothly and added additional context in the comment made it all worth while I agree on your statements this was to fire 🔥

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    I tried my best man!

  • @baruchbelmont5821
    @baruchbelmont5821 Жыл бұрын

    I know a lot of people don't agree with this theory but I think you explained it very well. 6 years ago I commented on a Master of Masters discussion video about knowing who the Master of Masters was, and it was Sora, for many of the reasons you pointed out here. But one major factor you missed was actually hidden in the Union x Medal tutorial. It states "They are the physical manifestation of power from the future, drawn by the Book of Prophecies." And we already know who wrote the book of prophecies. We borrow power from the future through the tome of Prophecies, which include all of Sora's connections, all of his friends, and his friends are his power, and through the tome he gave that power to us, the player. Just put two and two together. So yes, Master of Masters is absolutely Sora from a future where darkness did prevail. And Tetsuya himself did say during an interview that he is surprised people haven't figured out who it was yet, I did day one.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I do remember this too actually I just wouldn’t think it’s solid evidence for todays people but in again it is a theory and not everyone will buy it

  • @baruchbelmont5821

    @baruchbelmont5821

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Final_RPG Especially since it's Kingdom Hearts. If he literally said he was Sora people would still have a hard time believing it probably haha. But, asides from them sitting the same we can't forget that Master of Masters is literally the reason Ventus is a thing, and why Sora has the ability to wield a keyblade. If he didn't start a war early or tell Ava to create the dandelions Ventus would have never been sent through time, and Sora wouldn't have had power connected to the past through Ventus to defeat the darkness.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@baruchbelmont5821 yeah I literally showed proof for this video of Nomura literally saying sora canonically won this fight and it was never ambiguous and people still think otherwise but I’m not gonna sit here for days trying to fight it I know the truth lol that’s what matters

  • @baruchbelmont5821

    @baruchbelmont5821

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Final_RPG Indeed, speak your truth and just wait to say you were right when KH4 releases, it's what I'm doing lol.

  • @oughein
    @oughein Жыл бұрын

    My biggest issue that nobody seems to talk about is Soras level of intelligence, I have a hard time, believing that he’s smart enough to orchestrate a complex plan we’ve never really seen examples of him being strategic or much of a critical thinker the master of masters also has a strong sense of wit and humor that I just don’t get from sora so if he is some how mom he’s going to have to change drastically as a character

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Which is completely fine and I mean kh 3 he rewrote all realities and he even made out events that happen exactly the same with out messing anything up which is very good on his end better smart for the way he went about it to pose out and stop Xehanorts plan

  • @andrewerath5585

    @andrewerath5585

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, but at the same time I thought the same for Xigbar/Luxu. But now look at him

  • @YoungProfessorUtonium

    @YoungProfessorUtonium

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andrewerath5585 Xigbar 1000% always had an aura of "I know more than I'm letting on". Curious to see how this theory plays out for sure.

  • @OrganizationXIII

    @OrganizationXIII

    Жыл бұрын

    @@YoungProfessorUtoniumwe only have to wait 10 plus years to get Kingdom Hearts 4 and than another 10 plus years to get Verum Rex

  • @ViroVeteruscy
    @ViroVeteruscy Жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't be surprised if Sora's body (or a replica) is in the box waiting to get to a certain point in time for MoM to return to it, thus finally returning home. Luxu: What's in the box? MoM: I'm in the box. Luxu: But why? MoM: You'll see~

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be so dark lol

  • @Gunsmoke2220

    @Gunsmoke2220

    Жыл бұрын

    The box contains Data Daybreak town

  • @thenobody7509
    @thenobody7509 Жыл бұрын

    I have my own little opinion on this topic. Could it be possible that sora is actually the Fake Light. Which MoM mentioned briefly? If so then here is an interesting idea What if Sora is MoM because Sora is a literal piece of his heart which somehow got a form and grew into its own. Mean, MoM's name could be Lux which means Light and if sora is a "Fake" version of him then sora would be a Fake Light

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be really interesting

  • @thenobody7509

    @thenobody7509

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Final_RPGHope you see this. This is apart of another idea I had. If MoM saw the future then he would see what happens to Ventus and if MoM's plan still involves ven then of course he would need to save him somehow. Sora saved Ven. How did that happen? Well what if that's why sora is a "Fake Light." MoM needed someone to save ventus when xehanort broke his heart. So he made one

  • @glitchyfox8706
    @glitchyfox8706 Жыл бұрын

    my crazy theory is that the MOM purposly ended himself with a keyblade so that he could exist as just a heart then grabbed his nobody and messed with it into becoming sora. Why would he do this? who knows but since KH seems making things confusing then maby this will be the part where we see what happens when the heart of a being tryes to recomplte themselves when their nobody has already grown a new heart.

  • @mannyegarica12
    @mannyegarica12 Жыл бұрын

    It will make sense why Vanitas looks like Sora in the first place

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m glad you liked the video man!

  • @spiritfox123
    @spiritfox123 Жыл бұрын

    A couple of other things I noticed while the MoM was flipping through that book that tie Sora to it were the heartless bodyguard that Ansem controls and a shadow. Obviously, Sora fought against Ansem and his bodyguard. But the shadow is significant because in KH1 when he released Kairi's heart from his own, he turned into a shadow.

  • @iTzTraffy
    @iTzTraffy Жыл бұрын

    The Theory is interesting but i don‘t think it‘s true. Simply from Nomura saying that Sora isn‘t anyone special. He wasn’t chosen by the Keyblade or anything and i would like Nomura to keep it that way. The best part about Sora for me is that he‘s just a Kid who got lucky and since then used the Courage and the power to believe in himself but even more so in his friends to change the outcome to his favor. His Go-Lucky attitude is what makes him Special and what makes Sora, Sora. Tho it could very well be true, guess we‘ll find out in Kingdom Hearts 16 lmao.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmfao 🤣

  • @JesseLeeArtworks
    @JesseLeeArtworks Жыл бұрын

    Your theory is eye opening! Really cool. The MoM can be a alternate Sora. The Sora that lost it all while OUR Sora is the Sora that rewrote the fate of all his friends in KH3 when he saved them all.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes exactly 💯 thank you for watching and sticking around

  • @OrganizationXIII

    @OrganizationXIII

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s the only theory that makes sense! I hope MOM is the alternate Sora that failed to save everyone and thus drove him insane! Cause you know Sora breaks down without his friends! So he turned into the MOM

  • @danteshollowedgrounds
    @danteshollowedgrounds Жыл бұрын

    I mean of course he is him after all :P

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m me he says lmao Riku and Riku

  • @elijahpayne1344
    @elijahpayne1344 Жыл бұрын

    the MoM is xehanort because everyone is xehanort

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol nooo😭

  • @jonahmartin1474
    @jonahmartin147410 ай бұрын

    The book of prophecies is jiminies journal

  • @FrostDJakki3529
    @FrostDJakki3529 Жыл бұрын

    Soras dad is the MoM. 😂

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yknow that would be honestly ridiculous

  • @FrostDJakki3529

    @FrostDJakki3529

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Final_RPG lmao

  • @jacoryarnett7347

    @jacoryarnett7347

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah, it can't be. In BBS Riku mention Sora's Dad to Terra who brought them to the island from the boat.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jacoryarnett7347you’re right but it would just be funny

  • @BetaWolFGamer
    @BetaWolFGamer5 ай бұрын

    Nomura is probably like: these theories are too predictable. Let’s throw them a few curveballs

  • @osriocesar

    @osriocesar

    5 ай бұрын

    I bet he thinks about putting the Smash appearance somewhere

  • @BetaWolFGamer

    @BetaWolFGamer

    5 ай бұрын

    @@osriocesar im sure he will tie it into the lore somehow lol

  • @monokomomo4977
    @monokomomo4977Ай бұрын

    too bad this theory doesn't work given how MoM was before the keyblade war and is the reverse of sora with sora given up his existance for everyone while MoM gives up everyone else for his plan, its gotta be a new character thats not fully created yet or random bullshit of a alternate timeline sora thats been displaced into the very far past

  • @henrique7137

    @henrique7137

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, bit of a shame but who knows it could be someone like Demyx still

  • @MrSlaughterrific

    @MrSlaughterrific

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@@henrique7137dance water dance

  • @notkeracen3484
    @notkeracen3484 Жыл бұрын

    I think sora is the MoM because MoM is a silly goofy guy and who else is a silly goofy guy? Sora.

  • @procrastinationstation3343
    @procrastinationstation3343 Жыл бұрын

    I personally lean towards Demyx being the MoM just because I think it’s funny and makes sense. But I def think this theory is viable as well. It would make for an amazing reveal. And even with this theory being pretty well known in the kh community it would still be an absolute shock

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    ☝️ I agree

  • @thekingdomspulse
    @thekingdomspulse Жыл бұрын

    There is a fourth option for Yozora's quote: "I accidently wandered into this place, and went through some trials. Then, I was told to save Sora". I know you said you didn't want to go back to Dream Drop Distance, but once you realized add the additional context of the power of waking it becomes clear. In KH3, Young Xehanort describes the power of waking as the ability to traverse hearts to reach worlds. This is consistent with the way we first see it used in DDD when Riku uses it to wake Sora at the end of the game. if you remember, he dives down on to Sora's station of awakening (his heart), and is then transported to Sora's dream of Destiny Islands (a world). It's important to recognize what the power of waking looks like because we will realize that Yozora uses it on Sora. If you remember, Yozora points his crossbow at Sora, then Sora's station of awakening (his heart) appears from underneath them, then Quadratum (a world) appears around them. This is the power of waking. Now that we have identified Yozora's use of the power of waking, we know that from this point onwards, they are inside Sora's dream because that's what the power of waking does. With this added context, there is now another way to interpret what Yozora says next: "I accidently wandered into this place, and went through some trials. Then, I was told to save Sora". "this place" can now be interpreted as meaning Sora's dream. If you then add on the rest of the quote, this is Riku's exact plot from DDD. In DDD, Riku accidently ends up in Sora's dream; then he goes through the mark of master, which Yen Sid directly compares to being a trail ("more trial than test", Yen Sid says); then at the end of the game, Riku is told to wake Sora, which is really close to "save Sora". So what does this mean? Yozora is speaking in the first person. He believes this happened to him. If my theory holds true, we know this didn't actually happen to him. It happened to RIku. In other words, Yozora has at least some of RIku's memories. Sorry for bringing in DDD, lol. DDD is actually even more important in my larger theory as to who Yozora actually is. But to get back to the topic of the video, all I'm trying to say, is that I've so far not found really any evidence that would connect Yozora to the Master of Masters. Not saying that they aren't connected, just I haven't found any evidence of this myself and am unconvinced, so far, by others' attempt to connect them. As for why Yozora is in the Final World, I do actually think that Yozora died (or nearly died) pratly because I think that the Car ride cutscene is a flashback and doesn't happen after Sora and Yozora's fight. But that's part of an even larger theory that involves Yozora's purpose and, as many people have theorized, Versus 13 recontextualized into Kingdom Hearts.

  • @mattwo7

    @mattwo7

    Жыл бұрын

    Does he believe his true form is Riku?

  • @thekingdomspulse

    @thekingdomspulse

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mattwo7 The first video on my channel explains my whole theory, so you can watch that if you want, but if you want to know the conclusion: Yozora is a heartless created from Sora and Riku. During DDD, Riku was inside Sora's heart when he fell to darkness and this is where I believe Yozora originates. To answer your question directly, since it's not in my theory video, It's possible he does think this, but I see no evidence. He probably doesn't think he looks like Sora because he's met Sora and made no indication that he knows what Sora looks/looked like. So, yeah, I think it's possible he thinks he is Riku or originaly looks like Riku. Or he knows that he's a heartless and therefore he thinks his true form would be a heartless.

  • @Amocoru
    @Amocoru Жыл бұрын

    This is usually second monitor kind of stuff. I'm playing a game or working while I listen to this stuff. You gotta read the text parts.

  • @kinghermes43
    @kinghermes43 Жыл бұрын

    Theres a video called foreshadowing sora a villain, which basically explains that past games pretty much foreshadowed sora fate to becoming the mom/villain which sora true keyblade might be no name and riku true weapon will be the kingdom key and riku ends up being more important in the story to help save sora. don't wanna get to deep into this or 100% this, but its so much evidences.

  • @OrganizationXIII

    @OrganizationXIII

    Жыл бұрын

    What about Yozora

  • @JERRY_BEING_JERRYEDITS
    @JERRY_BEING_JERRYEDITS Жыл бұрын

    Xion and sora have the same color eyes

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    So does roxas and Kairi and terra and ven and aqua….lol

  • @Ant10doeditz

    @Ant10doeditz

    Жыл бұрын

    Cypher Jerry is the goat

  • @Sanimatez7865
    @Sanimatez7865 Жыл бұрын

    That’s what I am saying! We have had so many Sora counterparts that pop up in the game there’s no way the Master is not Sora! Unless he’s secretly Soras dad who’s on a mission to beat his ass for not coming to dinner in KH 1.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Sora ain't getting his ass beat dude is gonna be handing that out

  • @Sanimatez7865

    @Sanimatez7865

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Final_RPGLmao fair fair😂

  • @Influence_Force_99
    @Influence_Force_993 ай бұрын

    Background music is too loud man.

  • @austincoole289

    @austincoole289

    2 ай бұрын

    It’s awful

  • @TrijayDCKA
    @TrijayDCKA Жыл бұрын

    The only way I can think that sora is the master of masters is if there's some type of 'time-loop'. Perhaps all the released titles might have been the actual chronological order after all and the only way to break that loop is what could be the role for the black box. I feel since nearly every character is sora in some sort of way, It would be no surprise if the master of masters was him too. On a side note, Nomura seems to change stuff up when the fans have an idea on cracking the code of the entire plot (just a personal theory of mine). However, we all expected Bragi to be braig and yet some of us second guessed ourselves and it was still revealed to be true. But as mentioned near the end of the video about vanitas, that's probably the main reason why I still hold on to the "sora being MoM" theory; all the foretellers' names correspond to the seven deadly sins, the only name that hasn't been used was pride. A lot of people expected the master's name to be Superbia since the name "XSuper" was on the black box. Vanity is another word for pride and if I'm not mistaken, Vanitas is translated for Vanity in Latin. To back this up, let's not forget that master xehanort extracted the darkness from Ven and named it Vanitas. Now remember from kh3 Re:mind, we see young Xehanort encounter the master of masters and revealed his name. Perhaps he decided to give Vanitas his name in honor of the one and only time meeting the master.

  • @emrickazor2610
    @emrickazor2610 Жыл бұрын

    I must be Sira too. I sit exactly like him except mirrored when I am on a ledge too! Nah for real though, I really don't want Sora to be the MoM, mostly because that is far too easy for them to just do. Instead, I'd rather MoM be someone we've seen a hundred times over, but would never even suspect to be the Master. Riku is MoM theory when? Think about it, the first time we see the gazing eye in the series is in Riku's hands.

  • @edwaffle
    @edwaffle Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been thinking about it for a long time now, since finishing Kingdom Hearts 3, and the more videos I see about Master of Masters, the more I think it is indeed Sora from sometime in the future. I think that after doing everything he can to save the world, his friends, and his loved one, he still loses no matter what. He breaks and decides to create a new universe somehow where he never loses anyone. And you point to some interesting things too, him losing his friends to darkness and also vanishing! I really do hope the series does this, it would look incredibly cool, specially after so much emphasis on MoM… if he ends up being a new character or someone irrelevant, it’s gonna be very disappointing.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    I can feel that Nomura has stated before it is someone we know by saying I’m surprised people haven’t figured it out who it is yet when master of masters was first introduced

  • @michaelwhitmire9015

    @michaelwhitmire9015

    Жыл бұрын

    It would make sense that the master of masters was a time displaced sora.remember sora lost the fight originally but used the power of waking to get a do over,so the master of masters being sora from the original event would be interesting.

  • @peterk.m58
    @peterk.m58 Жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure the MoM is definitely Sora from a different Multiverse. But a Sora that failed to save Kairi because it was suppose to be a Canon Event.

  • @CocoaCatniptv
    @CocoaCatniptv Жыл бұрын

    I still think if the MOM is actually someone we already know….it’ll be Demyx. Watching cutscenes of the MOM he just seems a lot more similar to Demyx than Sora. I have a feeling the MOM will be a new character though. I think a villain that’s sort of a foil to Sora is a lot more interesting than them revealing that MOM is an adult Sora from some alternate timeline. Still an interesting theory though.

  • @sanic2794

    @sanic2794

    Жыл бұрын

    Demyx was also in the kh3 scene with marluxia and larxene when xemnas was mentioning their past keyblade wielding and so far we haven't seen his somebody in any of the mobile games

  • @burritowyrm6530
    @burritowyrm6530 Жыл бұрын

    into the soraverse

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Deadass

  • @burritowyrm6530

    @burritowyrm6530

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Final_RPG sora society 💀

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@burritowyrm6530 man did rewrite every reality I’m surprised no one has made a video of him walking into different verses saying some crazy shit LMAO what ai can do loll

  • @BRUIN1821
    @BRUIN182111 ай бұрын

    I just wanna know where everyone is getting that coat that has been made the same exact way for centuries & everybody both good and bad wears them. There has to be something there not revealed other than them protecting against darkness

  • @ShiroMaKun
    @ShiroMaKun Жыл бұрын

    Well after KH2 I had kinda the idea, that Sora might be MoM, because of Roxas - who looks like Ventus. We have Vanitas, who looks like Sora and Vanitas goal was to merge with Ventus again and overpower him to become whole again. In KH3 when Ventus and Sora asked, why Vanitas is the way he is, he simply says because it is the way he is, like he's born this way and complete opposite to Sora. So what if Sora was never "whole" all this years, because in his heart he could take Ventus', Roxas' and Xions hearts (even Kairis heart in KH1), but it was supposed to be Vanitas? And Ventus was supposed to be the "caretaker"/"vessel" up to this point? My other theorie is, that darkness grows in Sora, so he won't be able to control it. In KH1 there was no dark Sora, it started in KH2 when he couldn't handle the power anymore (abused the power) in KH3 Sora can handle it better, kinda but there was one time where Xehanort kinda brought Sora into Dark Mode in the fight, like he could just switch it. And since Sora denies darkness with his mind, he denies his other part of power, which he won't accept to learn to handle it (bc he fears to hurt anyone). And now Sora did a taboo, broke a rule. So maybe MoM intended to do so, so Sora has to accept the darkness of his own and Yozora has to watch and protect him. If Sora learns his own darkness and accepts it, he would be like the most powerful Keyblade wielder, like the Master of Masters.

  • @deepmind5318
    @deepmind5318 Жыл бұрын

    Why else would the master's face remain hidden. There's something square enix doesn't want us to know yet.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Man’s face has been hidden since 2013 lmao 😭😂

  • @SBaby
    @SBabyАй бұрын

    I'll say this. If Nomura is doing what I think he's doing with the collective KH series, then the MoM is actually Sora's father.

  • @calvinwarthur1770

    @calvinwarthur1770

    18 күн бұрын

    Huh, yeah thats a good answer but the question is? Why is he doing this if he doing this to destory or saving this world from darkness mumbo jumbo sacrifcing his comrades and away from his son then, why?😑😑 there's must be some clue to this action if he is sora father 😑😑

  • @SBaby

    @SBaby

    18 күн бұрын

    @@calvinwarthur1770 I think the reason is not because he is trying to save the world from darkness. He is trying to end conflict between light and darkness, which have been in a perpetual battle since before the time of the Foretellers. So to this end, he reasons that the only way to do this is to destroy the ability of either side to fight.

  • @calvinwarthur1770

    @calvinwarthur1770

    18 күн бұрын

    @@SBaby yes but what i'm trying to say is what is his " *End game of his* " i'm tying things from union-cross and some detail but its just end of the war between just " *light and darkness* " but from my opinion or perspective he didn't need to as he can just let a easy task to his own hand by not doing his diabolical things to his own fortunetellers and the dandelions (i don't know if i'm right or not but i just maybe making this up but i'm just speculating Mid-theoris of this long saga) and ventus is one of many as why him as the X-blade or ķéý-blade if there's an explanation of things related to him (for not to confusing others as normal keyblade) and why do this, why make the life of younger keybalde suffer on this war for what? i'm just speculating things but thats just about it but i'm just gonna shut my mouth and see this Lost Master saga for it is the secret for the entirety of saga of kingdom hearts 😇😇😇(P.S i'm sorry if i'm speculating things or making things up but i'm just quite puzzling on this soo if i'm making offensive remark then i'm so sorry for this 🙏🙏🙏😔😔😔😇and i hope its not to bodering you on this )

  • @CreamerOfTheDairySquad
    @CreamerOfTheDairySquad Жыл бұрын

    The master of masters is Light. They literally revealed that in a cutscene when young Xehanort asked the master of masters what his name was. If you played the mobile game there is a "Darkness" makes sense that there is a "light"

  • @Dreq458
    @Dreq458 Жыл бұрын

    *Has* to be? Okay, I'll bite.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol thank you for at least giving a watch and taking a listen I appreciate it

  • @CensoredError
    @CensoredError Жыл бұрын

    i always thought if this theory holds up a possibility is sora created a paradox like the zelda games where one timeline he fails but is the only one to survive and goes on to become the master and the other is the sora we follow

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah kinda similar in a way yes

  • @kallyle6611
    @kallyle6611 Жыл бұрын

    The only way I see this working is if the Master of Masters was a version of Sora from a different background. It’s said that your circumstances shape who you are, so perhaps the Master of Masters is a version of Sora who didn’t have many friends or who lost all of them permanently.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah this is kinda what i said the pinned comment

  • @smoothsoulbrotha

    @smoothsoulbrotha

    Жыл бұрын

    Remember, Sora had to use the power of waking to prevent losing everyone permanently. The MoM is also known for using the power of waking in dire circumstances only to "disappear"

  • @olajuwonspears9448
    @olajuwonspears9448 Жыл бұрын

    Definitely agree made a lot of good points in the video Master of Masters line from Union cross definitely solidified it in my book with the ending of Kh3 Remind when Sora basically reverses time so his friends don't die/ saves kairi . I think the black box is literally a black box that contains the data from the entire universe

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean every place is a universe in kh so there’s multiple multiverses the thing is tho that is ansems data in kh 2 which is why recoded happens because it’s comprised of all the universes

  • @tylercafe1260
    @tylercafe1260 Жыл бұрын

    My only problem with the theory is that it's literally a "Grandfather Paradox" if that were true. Sora "mysteriously" receives the Keyblade even though it was actually Rikus. But now it would suddenly be Sora created the Keyblade Sora's been using? That's a classic time travel paradox. Master of Master's explained to his apprentices he created the Keyblades based off the X-Blade when he studied it. The X-Blade origins and the Keyblade War he spoke of when he was a child contradict the theory. Though you could technically make the argument because MoM has possession to study the X-Blade that in itself should be enough evidence of him being Sora. The only thing contradicting that is MoM story of the Keyblade War happening when he was just a kid and was fought over possession of the X-Blade. We only know X-Blade is the counterpart to Kingdom Hearts but as for the Origins of Kingdom Hearts in itself that's still the greater mystery. If Sora is somehow actually MoM then they're going to have to explain in vivid detail what Kingdom Hearts actually is and where it came from. Otherwise that'd mean Sora created Keyblades, Dreameaters, Organization Cloaks, Data Worlds, The Arc, and Time Travel. It's not that I 100% don't believe it but when I compare it to some other theories it doesn't quite make sense especially when you really look at MoM and what he's been doing... Personally I think there's something much crazier going on. When you consider how intangled Light and Darkness are to one another isn't it weird that he created the Cloak to "Protect Against Darkness" and yet when we see these cloaked fighters they're against Warriors of Light... Also something that just popped in my head Namine. Namine is directly connected to Sora and his memories. Wouldn't she be able to see MoM memories if he was actually Sora? Namine powers have shown to be much greater than we previously thought. She was responsible for summoning Lingering Will by recalling his memories from his heart. Surely she would've noticed a connection by now. MoM is also ultimately a scientist. Which makes me think of at least 1 other character as a potential candidate for the true identity.

  • @Ant10doeditz
    @Ant10doeditz Жыл бұрын

    Also perry the platypus is master of masters fr

  • @Statuslock
    @Statuslock Жыл бұрын

    I hope Yozura's driver is Volt Krueger from The Bouncer lmao.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude… dude LOL ME AND MY FRIENDS MADE FUN OF THIS THE OTHER DAY😂

  • @MisterX867

    @MisterX867

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd approve of any The Bouncer cameo in KH lol

  • @TylerAngelle
    @TylerAngelle Жыл бұрын

    It’s kind of hard to focus on the video with that loud ass piano in the background🤣

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    I apologize on the volume I didn’t realize that it was actually that loud till everyone was saying so I’ll be live streaming Saturday maybe you guys can tell me if I can change it

  • @ggloitergg
    @ggloitergg Жыл бұрын

    hes probably just gonna make it another vessel of sora that probably lose in his timeline since we are adding time travel apparently and came to fix what was lost. short but simple

  • @ggloitergg

    @ggloitergg

    Жыл бұрын

    Simple and clean i mean

  • @larrybills5840

    @larrybills5840

    Жыл бұрын

    Time travel has been a thing since Dream Drop Distance

  • @masteroflight7296
    @masteroflight7296 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine building up all his mystery and hype behind MoM only for it to be a completely new character? How anticlimactic would that actually be? Imagine it “omg this guy is so mysterious I can’t wait to see who he is!!. OMG HES GONNA SHOW HIS FACE!!! ITS.....ITS......just some dude....wow”

  • @YoungProfessorUtonium

    @YoungProfessorUtonium

    Жыл бұрын

    Separate from the points being brought up in this video, a series could do this by dropping hints about a new character throughout the new saga and then having him be said new character we've grown attached to. Not saying that's the case here, but it's not impossible to make it compelling.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@YoungProfessorUtoniumyou’re completely right I see both of your points I think it’s more left to interpretation for now and that’s completely fine everyone is allowed to think about how they see it and have there own ideas and there isn’t anything wrong with that love y’all! Don’t let people bash on ya for nothing else about what you think is gonna happen it is just a video game in the end game

  • @YoungProfessorUtonium

    @YoungProfessorUtonium

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Final_RPG I appreciate you trying to keep the peace in your comments. I saw you say how you're trying to respond to everything. You're doing fine, my dude. Good luck on your growth!

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@YoungProfessorUtonium i fucking thank you from the bottom of my heart it is really really overwhelming although i know i cannot please everybody and that's a given i was maintain peace and have people be happy enjoy videos and be apart of the community and i wanna try to do anything in my power to help or make people excited have a smile on their face for the day. so even if someone doesn't like that's okay i'll be streaming on Saturday if i can so everyone can come and talk and hangout

  • @theorycraft7138
    @theorycraft7138 Жыл бұрын

    easy you have 2 versions of sora the one who is from timeline 1 who lost all his friends lost his heart and went back in time to become MOM, and timeline 2 where he changes fate and lives on. the old world line would have kingdom hearts activate and become the new world, which is quadratum and the old world which is the current worldline we are in.

  • @kalenmarshall8692
    @kalenmarshall8692 Жыл бұрын

    If he ends up being MoM than this will be the same plot as infamous lol

  • @TronSAHeroXYZ
    @TronSAHeroXYZ Жыл бұрын

    Yep, Sora can even assimilate into Kairi's body. Pretty hard to NOT SEE that his HEART contains ALL HEARTS.

  • @kibohiskeyblade7890
    @kibohiskeyblade7890 Жыл бұрын

    I would rather have Master of Masters be a new character. This theory of yours is pretty cool, though.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    I thank you for that!

  • @kofinart
    @kofinart Жыл бұрын

    Nomura is the MoM, hear me out. There's a fucking box, box = square, Quadratum = Square, He knows a ton of shit, walks around "giving" characters purposes etc. The MoM is Nomura's self insert.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    LMFAOO

  • @rncdchs
    @rncdchs Жыл бұрын

    I personally just like this theory and wouldnt mind if it was true

  • @joshsilva4006
    @joshsilva4006 Жыл бұрын

    I think it’s a convenient theory, but I believe it’s way greater than that. Sora is our protagonist and he’s never been anything more or less. If the first Saga was about Xehanort challenging the balance of light and dark, the X Saga has consistently been suggesting that there is indeed an imbalance, and that it is Light that has too much power. At the end of KH3 Eraqus begins a new chess game where Sora by himself is battling all the foretellers - yet we’ve seen no glimpse of those characters being agents of the dark, they all fight for the light. They want to eradicate the darkness, however time and again it’s shown that both Light and Dark need to coexist for the worlds to even exist. My theory is deeply rooted in that concept. I believe that Sora in the upcoming saga must learn from Riku and perhaps even Terra (since they both utilising light and dark) to use the power of darkness to indeed maintain the cosmic balance and save the worlds from destruction. We’ve had a villain that was all about restoring the balance in Xehanort, the next logical step would be to have a villain that’s all about the dominance of light and eradication of darkness. Of course the union X story confirms there exist primordial darkness’ incarnate. Why can’t there also be primordial Light? And if that is the case, then why can’t the MoM be a primordial Light? What if this challenges that notion that Sora was right about kingdom hearts? it wasn’t darkness as Ansem suggested, nor is it Light as Sora triumphantly proclaims. Perhaps, it is both. “If Light and Darkness are both equal, then we’ll be the darkness” - Riku to Sora in the realm of Darkness after defeating Xemnas in KH2

  • @lovesgibson

    @lovesgibson

    Жыл бұрын

    Master of Masters seems like an a-hole who messes with other’s lives and causes turmoil. Definitely not light incarnate

  • @soku330

    @soku330

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lovesgibsonshould be Ardyn then from ffxv remake in quadratum

  • @luiscruz3261
    @luiscruz326117 күн бұрын

    It's essentially the plotline/ theory of FF8 that people believe. The theory is based on Sora being from the Future who experienced these situations and history. He went to the past with Knowledge of the Future and he created the Book of Prophecy. Something might have happened to Kairi to trigger this change. Its a theory from FF8.

  • @botanbutton
    @botanbutton Жыл бұрын

    At this point, I'll take anything. 😭 I also have not heard this theory before.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Loll I feel you and now you’re welcome for sharing it and passing it to you! 😄

  • @Avalon247
    @Avalon247 Жыл бұрын

    Sora is Kingdom Hearts himself

  • @Fallout1Boi
    @Fallout1Boi Жыл бұрын

    the story is so bad to point where theories like this seem better than what will probably be true

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh come on now don’t say that 😭💀

  • @aoto8897

    @aoto8897

    Жыл бұрын

    Bruh. This theory is cliche. I don’t want the main hero to be the main villain. It has been overdone in many stories.

  • @OrganizationXIII

    @OrganizationXIII

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aoto8897what stories! I rarely see the main character being the villain! I love that concept

  • @Yurikon3

    @Yurikon3

    11 ай бұрын

    @@aoto8897 Everything in KH so far has been JRPG cliche in some form or another. KH is light-weight in some of those cliches.

  • @abrahamcueva4487
    @abrahamcueva4487 Жыл бұрын

    Nice points but that last one is kinda a stretch i dont see how those two images will prove hes the master of masters. I mean it's just images he wrote about from what he saw in the future not much of proof

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes but it’s specifically to do with the kingdom key itself and there’s no other keyblade other than that and sora shouldn’t be a main focus of the future if he isn’t some major of importance to him or a threat at the very least

  • @abrahamcueva4487

    @abrahamcueva4487

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Final_RPG ah fair point. Well i suppose we gotta wait and see what happens. Hopefully its a satisfying reveal and not disappointing

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@abrahamcueva4487 i hope so too I think it will especially with how much time they are giving us with a new trailer and also with how they’re stacking the stairs with the other games piecing everything up it looks great so far

  • @TheKaiyash
    @TheKaiyash11 ай бұрын

    I think the timeliness got split when everyone dissapeared in the 10,000 heartless battle and then THAT Sora ended up becoming MoM And while I don't believe Sora to be so....let's say "book smart" I can most definitely see him attempt anything to see his friends again Hope I'm wrong because MoM seems to not really care that much who wins in terms of the whole "light vs dark" battle

  • @robbyjones9813
    @robbyjones9813 Жыл бұрын

    We assume that Sora is the Master of masters. However there are other options we may not be aware of. For instance time splits could be a possibility. However, there is enough evidence to suggest that Sora being the master of masters or at least some relations is still on the table. Also the master of masters states the Darkness had physical forms in the past. This might suggest that their was an older keyblade war whose ramifications changed everything. As for the darkness that was inside Ven. I think the master of masters had planned for that one to possess Ven in order to give it a physical form as then it could be defeated, in theory anyway. Finally we must also ask what quadratum is and also place on the table that the master of masters could also be someone else we know or will meet who has simply time traveled.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah this is kinda what I was saying in my pinned comment check it out

  • @lunarshadow5584
    @lunarshadow5584 Жыл бұрын

    Some things to keep in mind, Yozora isn't in the body he's meant to be in. It is likely that whatever existence gave him that new look also gave him the trials which he told to us ended with the mission "Save Sora". So while the nameless stars name being Sora makes sense and can still be true, its unlikely that its her that's meant to be saved. That is likely a bait to confuse us, Yozora misunderstanding who was being asked to save because he knows someone already named Sora only to meet a new one, ours. (Though something could be said about her losing her name likely that being given to Sora by someone else to jumpstart his prophecy into the new world) About Vanitas being the MoM's darkness, I believe he did let his loose but I don't believe its Vanitas. It was said that Vanitas isn't even one of the main 7 darknesses, him being a weaker version that escape being wiped out along with the others by the Union X protagonist. But for MoM's darkness, I believe he let his loose in the other world, which is how the KH4 trailer starts. Light and Darkness shouldn't exist in that world but they do, and the only way heartless would exist in that world is if darkness does. I do believe it being Sora would be a big brain move, but I also believe it would be just as great if it turned out that the MoM had pulled off an Aizen, a "I am the reason you were even born" move. Maybe even have both the "I created you" and "I am your past life" mixed together, only Nomura knows for sure.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah it sounds completely plausible man

  • @followerofyeshua9210
    @followerofyeshua9210 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone notice his theme is just a distorted version of soras theme

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly yes! I wish to point that out but I feel like that isn’t good enough for proof so I’ll be devoured lmao

  • @followerofyeshua9210

    @followerofyeshua9210

    Жыл бұрын

    @Final_RPG I have a theory on The master of Masters Sora that would show how he was able to travel back in time before he was born even though the normal kingdom hearts time laws are different know quadratum is like a mirror of the kh world well Sora entered quadratum then went back in time there then re-entered the kh world in the age of fairytails. He even has more control over the power of waking as well because he was able to raise the fortellers and write the book of prophecies. He also clenches his fists uncomfortably after Xehanort says sheep pretending to be wolves because of this we know the ending of the next saga this sora actually has the X-blade because I believe its just an upgraded kingdom key so M.o.M Sora is trying to fight his younger self so that when he fights him and the fortellers they die but he reincarnates them and he will die but he probably wont reincarnate it will be a sad momment.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@followerofyeshua9210 that would be fucked up

  • @jeremysteinmark2845
    @jeremysteinmark284510 ай бұрын

    So here’s my full theory Sora is the MoM and I’m going to explain why Mannerism match up pretty well to sora as shown in the video. The MoM’s also jokes around a lot which sora does as well. Here’s my full theory The MoM is sora from the future. In that timeline the MoM never originally existed. Basically in that timeline as sora got older( years after beating master xehanort in KH 3 and possibly after returning from the other reality) he would start to go to a little more drastic measures to protect his friends and stop the darkness. Sora goes too far and this causes his friends to turn against him and abandon him. Sora then finds out that the darkness was the reason why his friends turned against him and abandoned him. Basically the darkness was manipulating sora behind the curtains. Sora finds out but it’s too late and the darkness kills all his friends and family and destroys all the worlds leaving Sora completely alone. Sora decides to use all his power and travel back in time to make sure this doesn’t happen again. Sora sets himself up as the first keyblade wielder and calls himself the MoM’s. He writes the book of prophecies and sets up the unions. In a sense he becomes a paradox. This would work because the only way for a person to know the future to such a specific degree is because they would’ve had to lived through it. Sora puts his eye in the No Name keyblade just so he can keep an eye on the things that he didn’t directly experience such as the events of dark road, birth by sleep, and other events. Regarding that black box. In future sora’s timeline he used whatever was in the black box but it went wrong and this would be one of main ways sora goes too far. What I think is that the MoM (future sora) is so burdened by grief of his mistakes and anger over the darkness is that he wants to create another timeline that has all darkness wiped out. So the MoM wants to use whatever is in the black box to do that but this time use it to wipe the current timeline and remake it into a new one.

  • @Fragmentsinfractals488

    @Fragmentsinfractals488

    9 ай бұрын

    I think it is the Child of Destiny (Sora and Riku) as One person setting up their own existence. They script themselves into existence.

  • @grandjae
    @grandjae Жыл бұрын

    Wht if the joker card Luxord gave him probably made it possible for this interaction

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be interesting I will never forget about that card 😭😂

  • @Its_PT_Baby
    @Its_PT_Baby11 ай бұрын

    Idk if he's joking one guy said it was Pluto, because of the leading and him being allowed to follow in darkness trying to conclude is impossible it could possiblly be yen sid or merlin I had no reasoning besides being old enough to fit the part

  • @vexzel5550
    @vexzel5550 Жыл бұрын

    Everyone is Sora. Everything is Sora. Xehanort norting everyone is just part of Sora's grand plan throughout time and space. A piece in Sora's puzzle. Everything is Sora's plan as he orchestrated everything since his birth to fulfill his ultimate plan of defeating all the darkness and becoming the ultimate light. Sora has the power to manipulate the past and create the future he wants.

  • @TronSAHeroXYZ

    @TronSAHeroXYZ

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, Sora can even assimilate into Kairi's body. Pretty hard to NOT SEE that his HEART contains ALL HEARTS.

  • @vexzel5550

    @vexzel5550

    Жыл бұрын

    @ckgamingchannel8066 Sora is Kingdom Hearts *drops mic and walks away You don't hear me saaay Please, oh Baby! DONT GO! Simple, and clean is the way that you're making me feeel Tonight It's hard to let it go*

  • @breejordon6042
    @breejordon6042 Жыл бұрын

    This on my Mama. The second I was introduced to the master of masters, I thought "this guy is acting sort of like sora right now"

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    The way he acts is very similar yes I agree 💯

  • @joeytremblay5689
    @joeytremblay5689Ай бұрын

    Smoking on that touka pack lol

  • @Z-A-C
    @Z-A-C Жыл бұрын

    I’m more inclined to believe that MoM is actually Sora’s father and is the one trying to save Sora.

  • @bitterboba2857
    @bitterboba2857 Жыл бұрын

    This theory is...actually fairly viable. Yes, the crown looks exactly the same. Also, as farfetched and dumb as it may sound, I theorized that the Master of Masters would be an alternate timeline Sora where he was still the chosen one, but was deprived of connects of hearts and friends. That being said, Riku and Yazora could be connected in some way. Riku has been to the final world using the power of waking, and Yazora having access would be no different.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    same vice versa yeah i believe so too

  • @magicvalgirl2309
    @magicvalgirl2309 Жыл бұрын

    HOW ARE WE SO OBLIVIOUS!? Thank you for this theory!

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Do not mention it!

  • @Omnicloudx13
    @Omnicloudx13 Жыл бұрын

    Craziest crackpot theory ever conceived by a person ever. I like it.

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    LMAO CRAZIEST WAY TO EXPLAIN A MESSAGE I LOVE IT ♥️🤣

  • @zeromortals8675
    @zeromortals8675 Жыл бұрын

    Ya know there was a theory somebody said way back that the shadow ansem used was indeed terra and when we all found out the shadow that Ansem used WAS INDEED TERRA the whole community went back to that same said video 😂😂😂😂 and you know what tbh if the master of masters is sora I’m gonna riot but same time I won’t be surprised

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmaooo I will never FORGET! LOLL NEVER

  • @zeromortals8675

    @zeromortals8675

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Final_RPG NEVER FORGET lmaooo and as we wait for the inevitable, I’ll see you in 10 years 😂😭

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zeromortals8675 don’t you say that it’s not true I won’t believe it 😭🤣

  • @TheMasterofMasters1
    @TheMasterofMasters1 Жыл бұрын

    Final_RPG. I, Ray Chase, hereby grant you my title: The Master of Masters. 🎊 CONGRATULATIONS!🎊 "May your heart be your guiding key."

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    May your heart be your guiding key! ❤️

  • @TheMasterofMasters1

    @TheMasterofMasters1

    Жыл бұрын

    "Thank you!"

  • @silvsora
    @silvsora Жыл бұрын

    Nah, I actually didn't wanna believe this theory since I wanted the MoM to be something like "Light itself" but after hearing your take on this theory, god dang. It sounds really plausible, that would also fit with the MoM having witnessed a keyblade war when he was very young, now that could obviously mean that he was still a baby or a young boy, but considering Sora is 15 years old during the events of KH3 and the MoM probably being good over a 100 years old when he meets young Xehanort, it would make sense for the MoM to say that he was a very young boy in his teenage years, at least young compared to what his current age is. Definetely would be a wild move to have the MoM really be Sora from an alternative timeline where only he survived, based plot twist , but ey lets see whether or not Nomura can do something with it. Great video as always

  • @Final_RPG

    @Final_RPG

    Жыл бұрын

    For real thank you so much dude I missed you man get back to me if you can

  • @silvsora

    @silvsora

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Final_RPG Im really sorry about that bro Im currently just really busy, couldn't even work on a new vid since I last uploaded, Im extremely exhausted and got no motivation for anything right now. Your Video at least gave me a good time, thanks for squeezing a bit of happiness into my day as always. You're truly the best Final

  • @thepotatoofheaven

    @thepotatoofheaven

    Жыл бұрын

    itd feel morbid if mom was light and light was ok with orchestrating countless lives to be lost.

  • @soul8648
    @soul8648 Жыл бұрын

    imagine doing Uinion Cross roleplay or KH roleplay and try to change here and there in UX (your character being friends with Ven pre meeting in the KBG)

  • @Shiriin777
    @Shiriin7775 ай бұрын

    Maybe the Master of Masters Sora is the version of Sora from the timeline where darkness wins, that timeline continued I think still after that and there was a split in the timeline instead when ReMind Sora took over

  • @struanpeat5116
    @struanpeat5116 Жыл бұрын

    i think MoM is Luxu think about it he goes through time whitnessing all that the gazing eye keyblade does, he already knows the fundimentals of timetravel, and enjoys the user of the black coats, he's even used to living with one eyes, so taking one out (in the next vessle) won't be too much of an issue for him.

  • @gachagav_gc

    @gachagav_gc

    Жыл бұрын

    Isn't Luxu already Zigbar?

  • @CristianMartinez-yc6pr
    @CristianMartinez-yc6pr10 ай бұрын

    I wouldn't be surprised if the Master of masters is Sora and even though manipulation isn't in his character as of right now doesn't mean things could change because of duty/circumstances. For Example Sora could be sent back in time for what ever reason and end up having the duty of setting time on its correct path. This is probably incorrect but at least it could potentially provide someone else with ideas.

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