Kris, the mind reader, guessing my questions and recording great videos!

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

Edgar Soares Haha! Am I supernatural then? Oh... Should I be afraid of myself? 😂

@eddlabel

4 жыл бұрын

Just right now I was wondering if I stick to PoT + D&M Drive as today or make a trade to a KoT. I would do the trade if it wasn't a high gain sacrifice on my pedalboard. So it's a keep the PoT for me. Thanks a lot!

Your comparisons are exactly what I would like to hear .. great job as always Just subscribed Keep doing great work :)

Really liked the first video, but the fact that you went ahead and did this, got you my subscription- clever approach with a straightforward edge. Keep it up and I'll keep coming back. Cheers, dude

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

Ricardo Lima Pereira well appreciated Ricardo! Thanks! I’ll give my best keeping it up. Haha

Really glad I watched your video. Well done. I have owned the KoT twice, and decided I preferred other ODs. I encountered Line 6’s HXFX PoT model and it sounded good, so thought I might pick up a real PoT. Your comparison comments are exactly what I hear- more chime and thump from KoT; narrower sound from PoT. Saved me an experiment!

Nice comparison! To my ears, I preferred the POT in the cleaner boost settings, but preferred the slightly fuller sound of the KOT for the distortion settings. That being said, I owned a King years ago and didn’t keep it. Currently running a Prince on my board and love it!

Just got the Prince of Tone and it’s great! Replaced a boost and OD pedal on my Frusciante board. Thanks for this man!!

Excellent video! Made me subscribe! Just ordered a PoT today, mainly due to the long wait list and $$$ it costs on the secondary market. But man, after this video, I may have to start stacking some $$$ for the KoT next!

I have been on the KOT waiting list for over a year, so at best I can get one from AnalogMan in 2022. I decided to get a POT while I waited, and though I love that pedal, I'm still keeping an eye out for a decent priced KOT along the way. This is by far the best comparison video I've seen for these two pedals. In OD setting, I'm hearing more clarity and definition in the KOT than the POT though there isn't a huge difference. In Distortion, the KOT definitely has a fuller sound and more low end than the POT, though I'd love to hear a comparison in a band setting because the POT may cut through a bit better. In boost mode, they sound nearly identical to me and I love to use my POT as a boost after my Blues Driver. I would say that the KOT wins in this comparison, but the POT is a great pedal. Having the boost on hand to use on top of the OD would be awesome, and I'm not sure that I am interested in just getting a second POT, though that is an option. Thanks for this great video!

That's a superb review ! And such a fine Allman Brothers like Les Paul Tone at 06:48 ++

Best comparison video on these pedals that I’ve seen: well done! For my personal situation, I have wanted a KOT and for circa $700 to $ 900, I could buy one… or for just over $200 I could buy a used POT… After listening to your comparison and several others, for my ear and the😂 sound I’m looking for, the POT is the ticket I’m going to be satisfied with! So, one is currently on the way to my house! Excellent video! Thanks very much! The comparison was also demonstrated on several other channels as well but yours was by far the best IMHO!

Great demo! This really helped me decide what to do in terms of these pedals. So, I bought the PoT to test out the circuit with my gear. If I like it I might put myself on the wait list for a KoT or save up for buying one off Reverb.

@craiger2399

3 жыл бұрын

So I got the PoT. LOVE IT. No need to put myself on the wait list of the KoT. Thanks again for this video!

I definitely notice a difference in the KoT. I think it’s a little warmer and fuller of a sound. Both are fantastic though. I’ve had the PoT for a few years now and I love it but I was thinking about getting the KoT. Thanks for the comparison!

This is SO timely for me and really well done video! Sub earned. I recently added myself to the KoT waiting list and have been wondering how similar the Prince of Tone is and if it would be worth buying to get me through the long KoT wait which is like 3 years. I think I'm going to order the PoT.

@daviddorrian5349

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of getting on the waiting list, its 3 fucking years?! I thought it was only like 1, Fuck that! Especially since I've just got the King tone duellist which is awesome and the Timmy V3 15th anniversary.

Hi Kris, the PoT Sounds to me more modern and tighter like an Amp with Silicon rectifier. The KoT Sounds mor like a Vintage Amp with a Tube rectifier, more spongy in the lows and has a bit more Low mids. Sound wies they are both Great in your Video and very close to each other🤘 thanks for the comparison😻

Excellent demo just subscribed

@KrisBarocsi

3 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated! Enjoy the videos!

If the presence and clarity was the only big difference, just set the internal presence pot of P.O.T. a bit higher, maybe K.O.T. defaults are a bit brighter, and Prince has it lower to sound better with it's higher gain settings.

Great comparison. Both seem like great pedals, have to agree the KoT just edges it - but if cost and space are an issue, the PoT would be a great pedal to use instead!

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

Andrzej Marczewski Exactly dude! Well said.

First off, thanks for taking the time. The POT wins 2 out of 3 here for my ears. The OD and Boost settings seem deeper. KOT wins the distortion setting. I can "hear air" only on this setting a/KOT. The other 2 settings seem more "guitar-y" w/POT. I'm gonna buy one (POT) now! Thanks again friend!

Thanks for the video!! Princes are not kings...same family, still upper class pedal, but not having two independent channels is the difference maker to me.

Nice comparison!! I just tried a POT on Fender Tele through a small Roland amp at a shop, and it was quite nice. I wanna see that you will compare with a POT and Timmy/Jan Ray, if possible.

great comparison...the KOT had more definition IMHO....thanks for sharing..

Thanks for a great demo, Kris. I have both the Prince and the KOT, I love them both.

@perr1983

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Blanchet hi, what do you think? Is there really a difference?

@paulblanchet542

4 жыл бұрын

@@perr1983 On mine, there are some slight differences, but I find the sound quality level to be equal. The Prince has more gain, plus a dip switch for more mids. The King is more suitable for cleaner sounds. But, I love both and would hate to part with either one. Mike said the Prince is made with high quality parts, and it sure sounds that way to me. Cheers!

I have bothe of them ,i got the KOT twenty years ago , the POT a few years and both are great

Great comparison...in most cases,I preferred the KOT...it sounded slightly warmer and more complex....the POT may have accentuated the clean, in-between Strat sounds a bit better...tough call as far as price and availability

I had both. KOT has more presence, is cleaner, amp sound like. POT has a huge range of sounds inside, dirtier, but awesome for rhythm. My favorite is KOT, but in this video, POT sounds incredible. I kept KOT and sold POT, but someday I will get another one.

Based on the 2nd half of this demo I liked POT much better for its clear and more distinct tone both when picking and playing chords. I had POT and enjoyed it a lot , then sold thinking that Helix digital model is close enough, but eventually re-purchased POT and not going to part with it any time soon. KOT's tone in this Chinese version sounds muddier, may be it is "more harmonically rich", but I prefer transparency for both clean and compressed sounds.

Hi Kris, mal wieder ein Super Video. Folge dir seit deine ersten Video mit dem Microvorverstaerker und den Einsatz vin den Ts808 in den Rectifier und den Marshall Plexi. Kurze Frage: wo hast du den Hals von deiner Strat her? Mfg, Krimson aus London.

Great video Kris.There was a difference, but maybe +/-10% in sound, to me no but the feel does play a big factor. My Lovepedal Amp11 ($110 on CL) has a great sound and a fantastic feel so I play the hell out it. To answer your question No, I wouldn't pay $300+ more but my playing needs more than an additional 10% to sound good.

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

Lord CirJames The Amp 11 is a crazy good pedal! Feel is in fact very important as soon as you play dynamic. Fun fact: the difference here felt way bigger as I was playing. These two sound way more similar when you’re only listening to the recording. Interesting, isn’t it? And yes, my fingers also say stick to the KoT. Haha!

more power to your channel..

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

janbers28 thx man!!

It feels like PoT have more gain, compresion and Id say balls. KoT feels more dynamic, open and more fun to play at lower gains crunch settings. It looks like in the beginning if the video you enjoyed KoT lot more, like it responds more to your playing ( pick dynamics etc ). But as you hit highest gain settings, it looks like you enjoyed the extra balls of PoT more. Good that you actualy played it, instead of putting just loop in front of it. For me, it is important to see the person playing the pedal and see the reactions and emotions of the presenter. Great work, great video. Thanks for it \m/

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

stanislavmigra Thanks a lot! Yeah, the PoT sounds ever so slightly narrower (less high end, less low end) and for that reason it sounds a little tighter on full gain settings. I liked that I must say. I still prefer the warmth, the bell-like overtones and the dynamics of the KoT.

Had a PoT, and I liked it... just not as much as I like my Keeley Oxblood. They're not the same thing, but for what I used the pedals for (quite low-gain, as well boosting high-gain amps), I just preferred the Ox. I played a homie's KoT briefly, and it felt... basically the same for me? I'm also really not a vintage, bluesy player. Indie rhythms, metal chugs, and barely saturated ambient stuff are my usual go-to. That said, the Analog Man pedals are absolutely choice. You really can't go wrong with any of the above.

@SONICBOOMERSOONER

4 жыл бұрын

Yea, the Oxblood is amazing!! It does the Klon thing plus many great overdrive and distortion tones. I have a POT and love it as well. I'm also a huge fan of the JHS AT+ and Mad Professor Supreme. I've been on the KOT waiting list since Aug '18 and got both the POT and Supreme earlier this year. I'm actually all set for overdrives and fuzzes, but KOT will eventually get discontinued so I'll definitely get one when my number comes up.

Had a kot but sold it. I do have an Amp 11 and I like it. Almost always on for a bit of grit. Usually stack with Wampler Euphria. Occasionally pair with pigtronix pedal or mojo mojo.

@therangersinger

4 жыл бұрын

Amp 11 is truely a great overdrive.

Hey Kris..im really wondering how the King of Tone (or Prince of Tone) would work boosting a High Gain Amp like a Rectifier compared to a Maxon 808 or similar. Thoughts?

They sounds very similar. The KOT has a bit more on the low end and some mids but still close and not sure that small difference is worth double the price

Both pedals sound great.

Great video Kris! - What is that Tele on the wall with the Bigsby? Love it.

@KrisBarocsi

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! It’s the Barocsi Troublecaster, my DIY built. Search for „Barocsi Troublecaster“ here on youtube, you‘ll find two videos on it. 😁

Whatever the difference is, It is not worth the difference in money.

Your guitar really sounds amazing. Can you do a review of the Protein dual overdrive by Browne Amplification? Would really love to hear it through your Tele.

@KrisBarocsi

3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to try the Protein and also put it up against the KoT and the Honey Bee Amps Double Trouble. Unfortunately I never had the chance to play one until now. This will hopefully chance soon. :) Cheers and thanks for the kind words!

very nice! Would''ve been even better if you've made an overlay of the fabFilter frequencys! This would have have created an optical impressionn in which frequencies which pedal has a little bit more punch...

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

pyng thanks man! That’s what I did at the beginning of the distortion comparison. Real time fabfilter overlay. It was pretty much the same all throughout the playings, that’s why I didn’t bother putting the spectrum analyzer in the whole video. Cheers!

@pyng7542

4 жыл бұрын

@@KrisBarocsi Hey Kris - thanks so much for your quick response! I think my idea wasn't that clear: what I ment was an overlay of both pedals in one curve! E.g. the final frequency curve of the KoT as a shadow in the background and the live curve of the PoT infront. You know what I'm after? Does this make any sense? This would allow a viewer to see which frequencies are pushed in one pedal more than the other... I just made two screenshots to compare them for myself, since I'm not as lucky as u are to try them both ;-) Keep on rocking - love your work since the mesa videos ^^

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

pyng Yeah now I gotcha. Would have been cool with the overlay, yes. I kinda only used these spectrum analyzers as a reference. The frequencies shown are just a part of the many tiny differences. It’s more the feel that’s different than the frequencies alone. Cheers man, so funny you’ve seen the ooold mesa videos. My god, those were shot a hundred years ago. Haha!

Hi! For the KOT, does having the high gain mod done have an effect on the overall tone of that particular side, besides just adding more gain? If you had the high gain mod done to both sides, how would that affect the clean and OD modes overall? Does the high gain change any characteristics compared to when it's not added into the circuit? I recently got on the list, and I'm just trying to decide whether to get the high gain on one side or both, although I'll have a looong time to decide! Probably getting the POT also after seeing this video! :)

@christopherburnett1745

4 жыл бұрын

From everything I've seen on them, the high gain mod doesn't affect the tone of the pedal. It's really only a minor bump. The gain you have at 2:00 without the mod is what you have at around 12:00 with it. Fwiw, I think that I'll go with high gain on the red (right) side and a toggle switch on top to be able to switch from OD to Dist, etc, on the fly. I'll leave the left side on boost. Good luck!

Amazing sound same

I definitely hear a difference and if I got the prince I’d know there was something better so I’d never be completely happy with it

There are dip switches and trimmer pots inside ot the POT.

Keep in mind the POT has dip switches inside of it that can change the lo mid and gain which might be the little differences that many hear.

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

Stephon Lemarr Yeah, I showed the dip switches and the trim pot inside the PoT at 6:14 in this video. I tried all the variations and I sticked to the most KoT-like setting. 👍🏻

@upperstructure

4 жыл бұрын

@@KrisBarocsi The one time I don't watch the video all the way through and just read the comments 🤦🏿‍♂️

Have a PoT and feeling sonic bliss... I'll let you know when I get my KoT (2 yrs+ and waiting) if the cosmic debris is significant or not...

I hear more low end in the KOT and it's a tad smoother. You can hear a lot of similarities though.

@kolombijec

4 жыл бұрын

well.. kot costs double than pot.. more importantly.. it is now shipping to people who ordered 3 years ago..

@mikeoxley9121

3 жыл бұрын

Can get more low end on the Prince of Tone by turning on DIP Switch #1. Just did that, and it sounds much better. I also had the King of Tone in 2010, but sadly sold it! Am on the list for another one (3 years so far).

How close is the Pantheon from the KOT? Thanks....Killer playing by the way....👌🏼

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

Jasmin Bellavance thanks a lot! I never compared them until now. I think I will shoot a Pantheon vs Morning Glory vs KoT video. I love all three pedals and I’d enjoy figuring out how they compare. Cheers!

I just paid 1000 Canadian for a 2009 KOT V4 regular gain, am I nutz ? Probably but it sounds so good there is a POT for sale near me I think I’ll buy that too .

They both sound great, the king of tone definitely has more mids. Honestly it almost sounds like an Xotic effects AC Booster.

@Utubewrk123

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll skip it then. Prince of tone is better.

I'm on the waiting list for the King of Tone, but my son just got the MXR Duke of Tone, and now I'm camping on the Prince of Tone page to see if I can snag myself one...

@jonkbaby

Жыл бұрын

Were you able to get one?

@AlexEsplin

Жыл бұрын

@@jonkbaby Yup. Managed to place the order at like 13:02 last Wednesday. It arrived Saturday, and man oh man is this a killer pedal.

Take 2 KOT and they both gonna sound different (it's all about parts tolerance), take 2 POT and they gonna both sound different as well, take 2 vintage TS808 or original Klon Centaur and they always sound different. I'm quite sure you can get another KOT and POT and compare them and this time to POT will sound better. I have both (I must have paid over 3 times the retail value for my KOT), in my case my POT sound richer and warmer compared to my KOT. Still love both but the POT have that extra little something. By the way, Josh from JHS pedals seem to prefer the POT, at least that what he's saying in his video about Analogman.

Hey Kris, sollte beim Dynamis nicht auch das Revv Logo leuchtenwie beim Generator 100p?

@KrisBarocsi

3 жыл бұрын

Dragonsquare Hey, das Logo leuchtet schon, nur weiß und nicht so knall hell. Es wurde modifiziert von einem Amp Techniker. 😎 Du findest ein Bild auf mein Insta (Post von Januar, 2019 mit dem G4 Pedal im Vordergrund) wo man es ziemlich gut sieht. Ciao!

Hi Kris, For the overdrive and distortion comparisons, was the amp set completely clean? Thanks!

@KrisBarocsi

3 жыл бұрын

xderiwx Hey, yes I always set the amp clean when I’m using pedals. I don’t want my delay or reverb to distort. Cheers

@xderiwx

3 жыл бұрын

@@KrisBarocsi Awesome, thank you! And great comparison!

@KrisBarocsi

3 жыл бұрын

xderiwx Thanks a lot!

I was about to buy a POT now I’m not sure, geez thanks, I think...

3:34 to 3:55 position knobe "Tone": King - about 12 hours, Prince- 10 hours. As a result, King sounds brighter

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

Sergey Popov this was the closest they would get for that sound. If you turn up the tone higher on the prince it gets very harsh (compared to the king). As I told at the beginning, I tried to match my KoT settings with the PoT, so I didn’t want to dial back from my ideal King of Tone setting. Cheers man!

I think that the POT is a little mid sculpt. Less clarity.

I’ve been on “the list” for about 3 years. I should have one soon. . . . . . . ...

@michaelask9018

3 жыл бұрын

4 months short of 4 years, still waiting

@wolfnstrings

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelask9018 Tone is worth a lot, but this is getting ridiculous.

@scottbrady4472

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelask9018 just buy one second hand and sell it if/when you get your new one.

@mdask99

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottbrady4472 I got mine in October

@scottbrady4472

2 жыл бұрын

@@mdask99 nice one... you like it? I just order a few months ago. Probably only 5 year wait haha

8:25 ♥️♥️

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

cofap meliante Yeah I got a little too excited there 😂😂 cheers

Kris thank.you still can't make.my mind up !!!

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Dugdale don’t worry Paul. It’s just a pedal, isn’t it? Haha

@pauldncn1

4 жыл бұрын

@@KrisBarocsi oohh now I know you don't mean that! Otherwise a telecaster is just a guitar .........

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Dugdale well... ask my wife about that. She will tell you my “ugly yellow” guitar is just a guitar. Haha! Jokes aside, you’re so right. I went through dozens of overdrives until I tried a KoT. For me it was love at first sight. 👍🏻

@pauldncn1

4 жыл бұрын

@@KrisBarocsi the weird thing is I can find a distortion easily thats ideal for my ibanez semi acoustic but a telecaster is a whole different animal to get the right one for Thanks for the video im saving for a prince of tone ...look back.in a year or so ! Ps don't ask my wife she just shrugs and says guitars huh !

Kot as said has more low end and less harsher high gain sound. Prince of tone as named is second to the king, but compared to other pedals in its class, it would be the professional musicians choice. It think every guitar player should have at least one of analog Mike's pieces in their collection

I think the KOT sounded better, especially the low end. I'd definitely pay the extra for the better sounding one.

@XChristianNoirX

Жыл бұрын

And wait a long time for it too.. Maybe forever! 😂

Kot has more bass and low mid. More noticeable in the chugging sections. Otherwise very similar. Prolly that much variation from pedal to pedal. Cost no issues = kot, cost conscious = pot

Subtle was way too subtle a way to put it. No I would not wait for the KoT with the PoT option.

I want a USA prince of tone,,,

They are REALLY close but the KOT is eqed much better. I still don't wanna blow 100 bucks on a pedal so I'll be happy with a POT for 4 and a half years

The POT is the high gain version of KOT. Not sure if that was taken into account.

@KrisBarocsi

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks for the comment! Yeah, the red side of my KoT is also the high gain version. Cheers

@liontone

3 жыл бұрын

@@KrisBarocsi Cool!

How do you have the dip switches and treble pot for the POT?

Have Prince of Tones alway been made in China? When did they start?

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

internetselling not sure unfortunately. They write the PoTs are hand built in china with japanese components. Cheers!

What I am hearing is that the KoT has a bit more low mids somewhere, not a lot, but a bit. And overall the PoT has a bit more presence, but I bet tweaking the internal presence trim pot would make it even closer to the Kot. It's easy to like the KoT as it sounds warmer, but in practicality, the slightly leaner sound of the PoT is more useful in band and recording settings for sure.

The Prince sounds noticeably thinner

well.. kot costs double than pot.. more importantly.. it is now shipping to people who ordered 3 years ago..

Ok so i ended up buying both the kot and the pot.and i spent the full cashhh .yeahhh why not.

Weehbo pedals Kris. Or tons of others.

Just wait for the KOT and buy the POT. When KOT arrive sell the POT.

Maybe i'm only convincing myself of something, but it sounds like the KoT has a little more 'harmonic complexity,' and the Prince is a simpler version of the same thing. I'm still in the middle of the video, and i'm hoping at the end you reveal you've been pranking us, and the KoT sounds are really from the King.... // So, yeah, i'd wait. The 5-10% difference is the same kind of difference between a cheap Chinese clone and the real thing. My name just came up on the KoT wait list, and i'm looking forward to getting it, being dissatisfied with it because i suck as a player, selling it for a profit, and buying three other pedals in its place.

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

CentaurusRelax314 The 5-10% difference is my conclusion too. If someone’s not into details, that’s a ridiculously small difference. If you’re not ready to compromise on sound and feel, it’s all that matters.

@CentaurusRelax314

4 жыл бұрын

@@KrisBarocsi Thanks for the reply. Just wanted to tell you how much i like you/your presentation style. Looking forward to much more.....

Just buy a clone people. Someone would be willing to make you one for a fraction of the price and wait time.

Like father like son maybe an overlay of the spectrums to visually see the minor differences my toilet phone wont let me hear..untill I get home and put in on the Martin Logans

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

Poo Ninja Haha! Those infamous toilet phones. 😂 Actually my iphone earbuds also show most of the differences. I was pretty surprised about that.

@PooNinja

4 жыл бұрын

Kris Barocsi I use a set of koss earphones at work they do pretty well there a bit bass heavy but i like that 😃

why not buy the 68 pedals knock off? same parts 300.00 cheaper no waiting list .And it does sound identical

Kris, palm muting doesn't demonstrate how a pedal tone sounds

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

barba rella you’re right. That’s why I played many minutes of non-palm muted licks. Palm muting was important to figure out the following: -how fast the pedals react -how tight the distortion is -comparing the low end Cheers!

@StratTones

4 жыл бұрын

Kris Barocsi yeah, it actually helped a lot! Thanks for not following the direction of the talkers.

The POT is thin and muddy. I sold mine. it quite frankly sounds cheap. At the extreme it is like a Joyo, Byang or Caline clone and should sell for $35.00 USD or at most $60.00 USD.

Having played the prince of tone, I was very unimpressed. Very lifeless. Your demo sounded great, but even on the spectrogram you could see the prince was lacking lots of information

Neither one of them are worth the price. I can get those same tones with cheap eBay pedals.

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

GAMES AND GUITARS challenge accepted! I might have a video for you this week. Stay tuned! 😉

@mark5150ty

4 жыл бұрын

@@KrisBarocsi it is quite easily done. Looking forward to what you do in the video.

@KrisBarocsi

4 жыл бұрын

GAMES AND GUITARS well it’s not gonna be all about budget pedals but there will be one ☝️ Haha! You’ll see, it’s gonna be interesting.