I always find it funny how illegitimate children look more like the parent than the legitimate children 😭🤦🏾‍♀️

@emilybarclay8831

Жыл бұрын

Charles had no legitimate children

@BriarMB13

Жыл бұрын

​@@emilybarclay8831 I think this is meant as a generalization and not specifically about Charles ii

@skagrrl78357

Жыл бұрын

Children born of passion versus children born of duty

@sugarkane4830

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s side splitting funny.

@takohamoolsen2486

Жыл бұрын

In Charles II's case, they sure did, considering he had no legit offspring. Then again, Monmouth claimed Charles and his mother, Lucy Walter, were legally married.

My heart breaks for Catherine of Braganza. She didn't deserve to have her miscarriages scrubbed into her devastated face again and again and again for years. Then, when Charles was dying, she sent a letter begging HIM to forgive HER for offending him all his life. Thank God Charles did the right thing and insisted he was the one who needed to apologize to her.

@karenholmes6565

11 ай бұрын

It was a different time, and Charles II actually seems like a decent person in that he cared about his kids and was kind and generous to the women who bore them. My son has younger siblings by their father. I never had any children but my son. I am always kind and generous to his half siblings. It isn't their fault, and it doesn't hurt me one iota that they exist.

@kendraechols8679

9 ай бұрын

@@karenholmes6565 the man cheated on her with a shit ton of women some who might've even her friend

@karenholmes6565

9 ай бұрын

@@kendraechols8679 She seems like she was a good person. He was a king, most kings are cheating douchenozzles. I am just pointing out that her forgiving nature, the fact she was so good to all of his children isn't unusual in my mind because of my own personal experience. I couldn't hate a child no matter how they came into the world. If you could feel vindictive towards kids that's about you and your character.

@ENT683

9 ай бұрын

@@karenholmes6565

@shaunah-eq5nk

9 ай бұрын

Love how the comments here are better than the ones on Louis' mistresses video. Everyone arguing over how bad the women were and no one saying hey, maybe we should be thinking maybe the man was the ass in this situation?

19:34 Was actually really sweet. 😊 It's nice to know Charles cared so much about his children. Even though they were illegitimate, they were his only children, and he was surely proud of them like any good parent should be.

I love how people would get up and go out to go watch a beheading and then be “horrified” when it didn’t go well.

@FantabulousFail

10 ай бұрын

Well they couldn't get the beheading on the internet like when I was a kid. Lol

@_zenith_139

9 ай бұрын

​@@FantabulousFailYeah, I once saw a video of a mass beheading when I was five. (I think my mental health can be predicted from this.😅)

@WolfieDawn

7 ай бұрын

To be fair, back then slaughtering of animals was much more public and were dispatched in a similar manner to executions. That said, executioners legit had one job and that guy botched a royal beheading. I doubt he ever lived it down.

@tatorick9002

2 ай бұрын

It's probably also super awkward for the axeman after missing the first couple of times.

Living to 101 when life expectancy was so low is an amazing achievement!

@cg8397

11 ай бұрын

Most women of the period had low life expectancy due to death in childbirth. Nuns generally lived longer than married women because of this sad truth.

King Henry VIII and King Charles II both married a foreign princess named Catherine, both Catherines had trouble giving birth to a son, both kings had affairs and illegitimate children, but Charles tried his best to treat his wife, mistresses, children, and friends with respect and kindness. There should be movies and TV shows about Charles' life. soooo many about Henry.

@gaynor1721

6 ай бұрын

Henry VIII had one acknowledged illegitimate son. Charles II was related to Charles II of Spain via his mother, Henrietta Maria of France who was a descendant of the Habsburgs of Austria.

@jessjess23brooks89

3 ай бұрын

This. And Charles never tried to divorce his Queen when she couldn't produce an heir. I always want more content of the merry monarch.

Poor Catherine. It must’ve been such a knife through the heart to know your husband has multiple mistress & children with them yet she couldn’t have her own… I wonder if the high miscarriage rates back then had anything to do with the amount of stress noblewomen were under in order to produce an heir.

@--enyo--

9 ай бұрын

It could have been anything. One particularly heartbreaking one is that her husband could have passed on an STI causing infertility such as chlamydia.

@lsmith9249

8 ай бұрын

@carole7538 the high miscarriage rate was women all over the nation and there wasn't a high number of noblewomen

@FunSizeSpamberguesa

8 ай бұрын

It was probably partly down to how damn inbred the royalty and aristocracy of Europe was.

@lsmith9249

8 ай бұрын

@@FunSizeSpamberguesa the Hapsburgs were inbred and had the deformities

@WolfieDawn

7 ай бұрын

The stress didn't help, but the likelihood of an STI causing infertility and makeup containing several poisons (people drank and ate mercury and arsenic along with using it as cosmetics) certainly didn't help!

Charles was paying out a lot in child support. Also, can we talk about how juicy and voluminous his son’s curls were. Thanks for another awesome video!

As Horrible Histories once said... "What can I say, I'm a lady magnet!" Wonderful video, Lindsay! So interesting and informative!

@chrisgeenadriver1631

Жыл бұрын

I love horrible histories

Amazing how much of English history was influenced by King Charles II's illegitimate children! Great video, Lindsay!

@dominaevillae28

11 ай бұрын

Diana Spencer is descended for two illegitimate children of Charles ll.

Lots of his kids were really attractive, at least in their portraiture. Mind you, the artist may have been forgiving of their actual features, but considering that many of their mothers were renowned beauties it shouldn't surprise that lots of his kids would be attractive too.

In other words, he wasn’t a deadbeat dad as per your title. In fact, he was a whole lot better as a dad than most.

@sqseq1237

3 ай бұрын

Much better than Henry VIII

You ever wonder if Charles II and Louis XIV ever had any proverbial contests to see who can do it better? Ex: who can throw the biggest, most lavish party, who can father more kids, who slept with the most women, who has the biggest and curliest wig? Just wondering.

@GaryHalloway48

11 ай бұрын

Me too 😂

@emilybarclay8831

10 ай бұрын

Charles II did intentionally base his court and behaviour on his cousin’s court. He kinda wanted to live up to his more famous and established cousin. By copying a king who’s reign no one doubted was legitimate, it helped add to his own legitimacy

@mangot589

5 ай бұрын

Well they were cousins lol

The merry monarch is one of my favorite english monarchs and his illegitimate offspring really left their mark. Jon snows actor is even descendant of one!🎉🎉🎉 Love you girl❤❤❤❤❤

@dominaevillae28

Жыл бұрын

Who isn’t 😆

@annmariesloan8406

Жыл бұрын

As is Courtney Cox I believe

@summeroflove394

11 ай бұрын

I think almost all white Europeans and Americans descended from Europeans can find some kind of relation with some monarch many times removed so it's not a big deal really. Useful charts had done a really good video on it.

@ledam2654

11 ай бұрын

@summeroflove394 Many Black Americans too, since many are 10-25% White. Then there are Biracials also.

@lsmith9249

8 ай бұрын

@danielsantiagoourtado3430 it doesn't mean anything we have millions of ancestors

He's the king who brought back partying

@sqseq1237

3 ай бұрын

Yes!

17th century Maury- In the case of your wife’s six kids, Roger Palmer, you are *not* the father Roger: Starts breakdancing Barbara: Runs off stage while the cameraman chases her Charles: Sneaks out the studio and calls for a cab to the airport

@beachboysswiftie

8 ай бұрын

underrated comment lmao

Wait... Married the daughter of a chicken farmer and wasn't happy? It wasn't for love? What 😂

@carissahunter2226

Жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same! Lol, why on earth would he marry a chicken farmer if not for love?

@AMinibot

11 ай бұрын

Potentially he got her pregnant and someone actually managed to coerce him into making an honest woman of her.

Lindsey, I’ve been a fan for quite a few years now and you never seem to disappoint. 🎉 Continue putting out such amaze-balls content lol!!! 😊💕☮️

@Alusnovalotus

Жыл бұрын

I also don’t know what spell she cast on us. I could listen to her read the phone book.

@TheMoonwalker101

Жыл бұрын

X

King Charles ll has really brought the TEA in history tea time

In the case of The Duke Of Monmouth... Charles II... YOU ARE THE FATHER!!! 😂😂😂

Thanks! This and your preceding video about the Merry Monarch's mistresses, was fabulous!!! Love your videos.

@LindsayHoliday

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

"Spa town of Bath" I'd expect Bath to be a spa town 😃

I wait for these videos!!!!! I am such a nerd for anything history! And you always seem to have the most interesting and enticing topics! Thank you Lindsey!

Hey Lindsay, could you do another video on the common ancestors of the current European monarchs? The last one you did was very interesting and there is an even more common ancestor after the death of Queen Elizabeth.

@FuzzyKittenBoots

Жыл бұрын

Wait there is? Who?

@lsmith9249

8 ай бұрын

@'roweennoonan6716 why would there be an even more common ancestor after our late Queen's death?

@rowennoonan6716

8 ай бұрын

@@lsmith9249 because Charles is descended from the common ancestor from Philips side, not elizabeths

@lsmith9249

8 ай бұрын

@@rowennoonan6716 common ancestor just refers to an ancestor who one or more people have in common so there are numerous common ancestors on both sides of our familes

@rowennoonan6716

8 ай бұрын

@@lsmith9249 yes, but I’m talking about the CLOEST common ancestor

Lindsay I love your videos on European royal history. I listen to your videos while working everyday, thank you for the content! 😊

Arrived at the end. 😢will wait for the upload to watch it all again. Thanks

Your videos are always so interesting , informative and never boring. I learn something new every time

26:33 I thought you said lesbians and I was like HUH we need another video on that

I get sad when I realise I’m all caught up on your videos. I watch these and then listen to them on podcast too: your voice is so bloody calming.

I absolutely love all your videos - I'm a huge history buff myself so I always look forward to your videos ❤

The amount you upload shows your dedication to history and love for it, and I love that

Yeah that's a group of men where there's been plenty of deadbeat dads but the label never seems to stick to them.

I was waiting for the inevitable intermarriage but thankfully, it didn’t happen. What a sigh of relief.

19:24 Wikipedia lists Charlotte getting married in February 1677 and their first child, Charlotte, being born in March 1678, when Charlotte would have been 13 years old, and then a further three more children by the time she actually turned 18: Charles in 1680 when she was 15, Edward in 1681 when she was 16, and James in 1682 when she was 18

@SomePerson_Online

Жыл бұрын

Wikipedia isn’t all that trustworthy of a source

@piratesswoop725

Жыл бұрын

@@SomePerson_Online Well, ThePeerage is, and it lists those same dates: Lady Charlotte Fitzroy1 F, #105031, b. 5 September 1664, d. 17 February 1717/18 Lady Charlotte Fitzroy was born illegitimately on 5 September 1664. She was the daughter of Charles II Stuart, King of Great Britain and Barbara Villiers, Duchess of Cleveland. She married Edward Henry Lee, 1st Earl of Lichfield, son of Sir Francis Henry Lee, 4th Bt. and Lady Elizabeth Pope, on 6 February 1677. She died on 17 February 1717/18 at age 53 at London, England. On 28 February 1672/73 she was acknowledged as daughter of King Charles II by Warrant. From 6 February 1677/78, her married name became Lee. Children of Lady Charlotte Fitzroy and Edward Henry Lee, 1st Earl of Lichfield: [snip] Lady Charlotte Lee+ b. 13 Mar 1678, d. 22 Jan 1721 Charles Lee, Viscount Quarendon b. 6 May 1680, d. Oct 1680 Edward Henry Lee, Viscount Quarendon b. 6 Jun 1681, d. 21 Oct 1713 [snip] So also ThePeerage shows that Charlotte was born in 1664, married in 1677 at age 12, and her first child born when she was 13.

Ty for making this 😊

Lindsay, thanks to your great Coronation reporting, the Ostrich Inn has two 18 yr. olds and this Nana there a few days in July. And I told them how I found them. Have taken notes for Windsor, restaurants and mote. Many thanks!

23:39 James Lord Beauclerk Born 1671 Died 1780 Age 9 23:57 James was sent to Paris to attend school. He died there at the age of six of an unknown illness. 🤔

Sometimes I wonder if any of these kings had “black” illegitimate children.

@summeroflove394

Жыл бұрын

Even if they don’t, pretty sure Netflix will make a series about them and make them black

@destinyclark4133

Жыл бұрын

It was actually rumored that Louis XIV of France had an illegitimate black daughter who became a nun. Her mother was a black stage actress who Louis was openly fond of. The nun herself was completely convinced that she was in fact Louis daughter and said so to anyone who asked. The rumors got so intense that Louis wife actually traveled to the convent she lived in and asked her to stop telling people she was the daughter of the king. Her response was, “Because you went through all of the trouble to travel here and tell me that I am not the daughter of the king, it only makes me more inclined to believe that I am.”

@teresawelter7530

Жыл бұрын

​@@destinyclark4133Lol I hope it really happened like that! The King's daughter is sharp! 😏

@sugarkane4830

Жыл бұрын

Why?

Thank you for such fine and fun content! 👍👸💙

Great video-- good info on some of his lesser know natural children.

I LOVE your videos (and podcast!)!!!❤

amazing video !

Very interesting. Thank you!

The picture you showed of Burford House is the one in Shropshire not near Windsor, that house no longer exists and became part of the Royal Mews.

Always so interesting x

Renée Lennox was actually the mistress of Charles Duke of St Alban’s son, also called Charles. Still an icky relationship though. Great video Lindsay, I always knew there’d be a hotbed of gossip from Charles II content!

Very interesting. Thank you for a job well done.

These videos not only get me through my work day, but on all my off days as well! Thankyou Lindsey for all your hard work!

How is it that all these people from this time period look alike? The mistresses. The group of people in the painting. Even the King looks like his lovers. No variation in features…especially the eyes. Very weird.

@kathleensiemion5108

11 ай бұрын

There's not way to prove this, but possible explanation is that there was a particular beauty ideal during the time period with regards to facial features, and people were painted in a way that was in line with that ideal, not all of the time, but a lot of the time. Oliver Cromwell's face doesn't look like a lot of the faces of the other people talked about in this video. Maybe for Cromwell portrait painters were more interested in making an honest portrait than a flattering one.

@emilybarclay8831

10 ай бұрын

The same reason most female celebrities look similar today, beauty standards. Those who meet beauty standards become more popular, and attracted the eye of the king. Noble families would send their prettiest daughters to court

I love your videos!!!!!

He had that rock star hair style I’m not surprised

Hey Lindsay! Please do a video abt Thai monarchs! I would really love it!

Very interesting video, Lindsay. This backs up one of my earlier comments (maybe not on this channel) that through various links, sometimes sideways of course, that the current British Royal family is still descendants of Henry Tudor via his daughter Margaret Tudor Stuart. People tend to forget that the Queen Mother, Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was also descended from Margaret Stuart.

@lsmith9249

8 ай бұрын

Margaret Tudor was in our late Queen's ancestry on her father's side, Elizabeth Stuart, Charles I was Electress Sophia of Hanover Mary Tudor, Margaret and Henry VIII sister and her 2nd husband Charles Brandon are in the Queen Mother's Ancestry, but Margaret wasn't

Incredible video as always Girl! Natural children of monarchs are such a fasninating topic and as always you made history come alive! Pleave leave ahearth to a fan!

Lindsay, have you heard of John II, Duke of Cleves? Known as "babymaker" he reportedly fathered 63 ILLEGITIMATE CHILDREN! 😮😮😮😮😮! Sixty-Three! My eye twitches just thinking about it... lol

Love your videos ❤

Thank you so much for , all the precious information .l am really proud of some of our past monarch's.King Charles first and second to me, were the (BEST)

Very enjoyable amazing appreciated

Charles was such a good dad 😄

I like how her ways of making videos never change from the kings and queens of Europe 6yrs ago to present day

I look forward to your videos and enjoy them so much! You have ignited a newfound love for history for me. Keep up the good work. Thank you!

Dammit i didn't realize this was a new video, now i gotta wait awhile for the next new video 😂😂😂❤

Notice that most of the people mentioned in this video died in their 50s... Imagine what was the life expectancy of lower classes at the time.

@theproplady

Жыл бұрын

Probably better if they survived childhood, since they weren't able to afford so many vices. Plus doctors often did more harm than good then...

@emilybarclay8831

10 ай бұрын

Barbara Villiers was 68, Louise de Kérouaille was 85, Moll David was 60, Catherine FitzCharles was 101, Anne Palmer was 61, Charles Fitzroy was 68, Barbara Fitzroy was 64. Plenty of them lived long enough, and commoners would have lived longer due to the lack of venereal disease which was rampant at court

Imagine if both legends about Charles Beauclerk were true. First she said come here you little bastard and then she held him out the window.

I heard the story of Monmouth many, many years ago (it was during a tour of the Tower of London). The guard said that many people have stated that he has a "detached look about him". Yeah, I know bad joke, but that's the Beef Eaters for you. 😜

@okiejammer2736

Жыл бұрын

😂 So bad. SO good!

I live in a town called Ringwood which is on the eastern edge of the New Forest. After the battle of Sedgemore, Monmouth was transported to London, but since it took several days back then, they made a few stops along the way. One stop was a house here near the river. It is now known as Monmouth House for that reason, and my Daughter's school has a house named Monmouth in his honour. There is also a house called Rufus, named for Rufus Stone, which is a few miles away, and the location of King William the 2nd's death.

Louis XIV was Queen Henrietta Marie's nephew, not her cousin.

Were there any rumors about the timing of Lady Mary Tudor's husband's death, seeming that he died rather suddenly after wanting her to convert to a different religion, and then she remarried rathe quickly. Then that husband dies 2 years later, and she remarried??????

@susanmorgan8833

10 ай бұрын

Not sure who you are referring to.

None of this would’ve happened if uncle Richie didn’t make me disappear!

Happy Pride to Anne and her lil girlfriend :3

@Greyscale11

Жыл бұрын

Shalom!

😂 favorite kid, Charles Fitzcharles just cause they made 1000% sure everyone knew who’s kid he was 😅

Berkshire is pronounced bark, rather than burk & King’s English has shire as shu (like shut without the t) :)

now i'm kinda curious about mary ii of england. i've already heard a lot about mary i, elizabeth i, anne, and elizabeth ii, but not much about anne's sister, mary ii. i didn't even know mary ii became queen.

@kristyraffaelo9310

11 ай бұрын

Brief history has a video for every monarch to the hangovers right now. Has a video on William and Mary.

@susanmorgan8833

10 ай бұрын

heirs to the throne at that point in time were (1) Mary, her younger sister (2) Anne, and a cousin (3) William of Orange, who was also Mary's husband. The throne was offered to Mary, and William apparently objected unless it could be a co-monarchy, which Anne also agreed to, as her right to the throne came before Williams. Mary II and William III held the throne jointly.

@lsmith9249

8 ай бұрын

@andreajade54 she married Prince William of Orange, his mother Mary, Princess Royal was the eldest daughter of Charles I so they were both his grandchildren and first cousins and were both offered the throne but she was the heir to throne though they are our only joint Monarchs

Fitzroy doesn’t come from the anglo-saxon era but from the french invasion of William the Conqueror. « Fitz » being old French for « fils » -> « son »

traveling to the Americas/Caribbean islands all the way from europe was basically a death sentence back in that time period

Great Video. I wonder where the modern decedents are today

Very interesting! Makes me more curious about the Princess Diana’s family tree. How is she related to King Charles II?

@pedanticradiator1491

11 ай бұрын

Diana's family is descended from at least 1 illigetimate son of Charles II and also 1 of James II's as well

@lsmith9249

8 ай бұрын

@goldenhermit through the Duke of Grafton and the Duke of Richmond, so her link is only through illegitimate lines

Love your video ❤ . Thank you for the history 👍

Do a video on 18 lovers of Edwina Mountbatten

« Now we’ll meet the results of all that sensual behaviour » that was hilarious 😂

Nell: “Come here ya little bastard!” Charles II: 😮 Bruh Nell was extra AF.

You have Richmond County and The City of Richmond in Virginia

Can you do a video on the phone communication system in Buckingham or other palaces?

@lsmith9249

8 ай бұрын

why would that be public information

it's interesting, there is so much info on Charles I and II but when you try to find anything on Charles the simple or bald of west Francia there's almost nothing. definitely nothing detailed. he ruled in the late 8-900s and dealt with a lot of viking attacks and religious issues and was Charlemagne's grandson. I think he may have been a III Charles in regards to his family's and francias line but when I try to search anything, even super specifically, there are maybe a few overview vids about Charlemagne's empire and the Viking attacks during charles' reign but nothing more. I wish I could find a detailed account of his reign and life but it only ever really pulls up stuff from the now king Charles III of England. idk

Wow this history ❤❤

"It's good to be the king."

Excellent video. One pronunciation correction: the Duke of St Albans' surname is spelled Beauclerk, but pronounced as "Bow-clair).

4:31 May I pls ask, what is that animal on the front of her dress? And how? Was it made from the head of a deer?

Charles Lennox is my 8x great-grandfather. Any cousins here?

now you have to look at King Christian IV of Denmarks 25! (or more!) children he fathered with 5 different women

@SomePerson_Online

Жыл бұрын

Henry I of England is said to have ~24 illegitimate kids 👀

It seems good to be King.

He had very good looking children, and they all look so much like him undeniably!

I was thinking earlier that I didn't know about Charles the 1st and the third,but nothing about the second. This was probably not the best start.😂

Perhaps Frogmore is bad-luck for couples whose wives look after chickens? Both so unhappy! 20:49 🐓🐓

So he’s got two sons with the same name Charles Fitzroy? How do they differentiate between the two tho? The elder and the younger?

He was King of Scotland before King of England should be Charles 2nd of Scotland and 2nd of England is this order😂😂😂😂😂

I’m sorry, “cancel Christmas” just makes me think of Tommy Egan in Power. 🤣

Charles 2nd is my favourite monarch.

If you look at my family tree, sometimes I'm descended from a king/queen, all their siblings, all their spouses, and all their other spouses. Nuts!

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