Zeos: "I don't give a s**t about IEMs" Also Zeos: "IEMs are an ARTFORM"

No just no Zeos 900 dollars buys enough Koss Kph30i's for a small village .

@ZReviews

3 жыл бұрын

I have no response for that...

@udmusic6156

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZReviews 🤣

@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797

3 жыл бұрын

Turning people into audiophiles one village at a time

Headphones get hot and sweaty in the summer, especially if walking around. They also bother me when wearing glasses. Speakers depend on the room and fixing that isn't always an option. Sometimes the soundstage bothers me, for example when im trying to focus and music is background, then I switch to iems. Iems are lighter and more comfortable than headphones. Many reasons really

@shadeofdeepgreen24

3 жыл бұрын

Especially for lower priced iems vs headphones. I think you get better performance per dollar with iems.

@houssamalucad753

3 жыл бұрын

For me the bigger soundstage helps me focus and listen to music at low volumes as background

@Assimilator702

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I’ve been saying that for years now. When your entire house isn’t air conditioned in 90% humidity on a 93 degree day NOTHING touches my head. Enter the iem. The glasses thing also. I won’t wear my full size cans when wearing glasses. Elite Sheepskins or even Beyer or Sennheiser velour pads get that indent from the glasses and that just triggers me. The velour pads will be permanently ruined and that’s a big no in my book. Plus the bass response is reduced. Enter.....the iem.

@LISTEDGames

3 жыл бұрын

Easier to sleep with iems , easier to travel with iems, some headphones puts too much weight on my ears and they start to hurt, for me also headphones ruins my hair.

@justina9914

3 жыл бұрын

That's so true. Soundstage bothers me when I am working too

I use IEM's because work is loud, and very boring. Ear protection + boredom cure...

@thomassydnor3107

3 жыл бұрын

True Wireless types plus earmuffs, it’s a living 🤷🏼‍♂️

@buildingsalvage

3 жыл бұрын

Rare type of job which is why I can’t justify IEMs unless it has pass through and even then the pressure is weird...

@Nihil660

3 жыл бұрын

Umm... Hd280pro, sony wh1000-xm3/xm4, drop pandas.

@edithboozy1000

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nihil660 edge lord

@matusjurcik6974

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomassydnor3107 and what about the sony wh1000xm4 noise cancelling on some small good sounding iems ( for instance tanchjim oxygen) in the two layers config. :D

when you want to lay on your side in bed--that's when you need IEMs

@almagcope3569

3 жыл бұрын

Cant wear them while lying on the bed though, would use a the akg eo ig955 for that. So flat, Comfortable af, won't break, but sq wont be there

Reviews like this is why I bought Zeos his lightbulbs, because I don’t care about IEMs and now he’s got me thinking. If I’m an Eskimo, then he’s just sold me snow.

@ZReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Not just Snow.. Audiophile Snow

@harrythebait9793

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZReviews You mean SnΩw?

@Coffeeandacigarette

2 жыл бұрын

@@harrythebait9793 snOhms

"DON'T think about your mom while I'm explaining this"............ I thought about my mom whispering in my ear... She said "Clean your room before I cut you".

I use IEM's because they're easier to carry around outside and provide the best noise isolation. More comfortable for when you're going for 40 mile long bike rides. Etymotic ER2XR, Audiosense T800 and T2's ftw

Maybe I’m weird but I actually prefer IEMs. I feel like you get way better sound for the price and they are perfect if you need to block out noise so you can hear your music/videos.

@Assimilator702

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been feeling the same way for a few years now. I NEVER use full size headphones in the Summer time. So the last 2 years I just extended my iem use to year round. Once in a while I’ll grab a few pairs of full sized cans and it only lasts for an hour or so and I go right back to iems for the next few months. Daddy needs ALL the bass.

Original Nanna was fabulous too!!! Kinera just made another one of their masterpieces!! Thanks for your awesome review!!

@yogiwp_

3 жыл бұрын

Is the 2.0 retuned? I'm getting conflicting info on this. Kinera says that 2.0 is only color design change, no sound change! Very, very confused!

@HiFiGOAudio

3 жыл бұрын

@@yogiwp_ We also have the info provided by Kinera only, it seems like it's just new color variant while maintaining the same high-resolution acoustic performance of the original Nanna!!

@yogiwp_

3 жыл бұрын

@@HiFiGOAudio Earlier today I received confirmation from Kinera CS/rep (after confirming their engineering team) that there was indeed a retune in 2021 on both the "original" (1.0) and 2.0 version. It's confusing because they seem use 1.0 and 2.0 naming to refer color variant only. Both 1.0 and 2.0 released in 2021 have been retuned. I do much prefer the 2021 version graph shown by Crinacle, compared to the original graph. So it's all cleared up. I have these on order from local shop.

@HiFiGOAudio

3 жыл бұрын

@@yogiwp_ You can also order from us haha :) Hope you enjoy your new pair!!

@h_enrix_92

3 жыл бұрын

@@yogiwp_ The 2021 Kinera Nanna 1.0 is the "mount" version?

I love those mmcx to 2 pin connectors. I use them to run my Isine 20 balanced.

i’m getting into iems because i’m a musician who needed them for daily use while drumming and now i just want to try all of them lol

Picked up the GL4000 dual mag last week. Today the na na 2.0 I can't wait to tryem.

" you gotta stick to the tips you know... ladies" - zeos 20:04-20:07 Watched this video three times now, i laugh everytime there. Those on the go lines make my day lol. Great videos Zeos, consider doing stand up comedy as a on the side gig.

Just started watching IEM reviews and thought it’d be easy to get some KZ’s and be happy. Multiple reviews later and I’m watching this review for something at $900 instead of $50 😁 I just want modern IEM’s not a KZread IEM review addiction 😋

I have been thinking about using IEMs through my desk DAC/Amp with VR. I have a Reverb G2 and the speakers are really good but very position sensitive and I would love to be able to put high quality IEMs in and disappear from the world. I only do flying/racing sims so no need to worry about losing track of where I am and falling through a window. I tried all my headphones and the way the head strap works just doesn’t give me any sort of seal. I am for sure not paying $900 though so let’s keep the IEM reviews coming down the price mountain a bit.

I am trying to decide on new IEMs at the under 1k cost.. I've been going back and forth from moondrop variants, thieaudio Oracle and Kinera Nanna 2...im leaning towards Nanna

I've searched for the "shape of sound" video but couldn't find it, does anyone have a link?

Have your heard of our IEM and savior "Unique Melody Mest" ?

I wish I could use my HD 6XX's more but the longer my fro gets, the more I have been wearing my IEMs. At least now I have a holy grail to save up for.

Hey Z, I’ve been out of the IEM game for a long time. I have SE846s and love them for their bass and extreme comfort but watching your videos made me wonder how much bass all these new IEMs had. I narrowed it down to OH7 and the Nanna, and now the Nanna 2.0. What are your thoughts? Are the OH7s and Nannas better than the SE846 for bass and if so, is the Nanna 2.0 worth the compromise in bass to the OH7 for a more well rounded sound? Thanks in advance for your help.

@GiftOfYHWH

2 жыл бұрын

This. Im curious too.

I'd be curious on your thoughts on the mest. I haven't heard the nanas but really like the mest and consider them totl.

@matusjurcik6974

2 жыл бұрын

By then see the review by directors garage (michael de lazzer) he compared them site by site and nanna 2.0 won. I have the nanna 2.0 and i heard some quality demo of the mest. I can confirm the mest has wall of sound but poor dynamic contrast and altough they have superb resolution they are sharp by nature. The nannas have better dynamic contrast and are smoother and more pleasing sounding with spectacullar 3d around ur head

I think 50% of your videos are you sitting in silence just randomly pointing and gesturing at things 😂

@grandmasteraj855

3 жыл бұрын

A compilation video of silent zeos gestures would actually be hilarious

@RogueShadowTCN

3 жыл бұрын

Ironically, probably the only way to convey how things sound without us trying it out...

Which IEMS are in the box though..?

I had this bourbon vanilla ice-cream once. All time favorite. As far as the ear buds, I just bought a pair of "Tin T2's" on your recommendation. I need the in ear stuff because of work, headphones are not practical for me. So far I like them, but to me they seem shrill on the high end.

Bidets... bluelight intimacy... darkened pleasures... Whoa there buddy, over the line, over the line! I'm glad you showed us your sincere hand gesture first, it eased any potential guilt I could have experienced while selling Nanna's gopher. "Now don't be selfish Nanna, sacrifices must be made."

How do they perform on a normal amp or music player? I'd think anything sounds great on a $1700 handheld.

Glad I checked the price before I watched

Good review👍

How do these compare to the Theiaudio Clairvoyance?

Iems make sense outside and inside for sleeping. Mostly I sleep with speakers playing, but when that isn't possible I use IEMs

I see "the box" and the Gold Planar G:2000 linked. Guess these are good. Time to watch

Zeos have you tried the UTWS3 from FiiO?

Curious, how does someone tell the packaging for the 2.0 vs the original Nan-Na?

Just found this video and wondering if Earmen Sparrow with balanced cable can drive these properly? Thanks in advance 😅😅

Are,these better than Audeze LCDi4 ? If so why? Thank you for your reply.

Where he find all nice wallpapers ? Love them for my m11 and shanling M8

Dude your review made me get a pair from Audio 46. What a bargain. Got myself a RME to hook up to my computer. Amazing. Normally I use a Chord Hugo 2 with Audeze Lcd i4. This is at least as good for half the $$ Plus the LCD i4 are not your everyday IEM's. Amazing yes but leak air and you cannot wear everywhere

How do THEEEESSSS compare to the thieaudio Clearvoiyance? Because i just happen to have 800€ and because i feel uncompftable with that amount of money i better spend it quickly!

I've used IEM's for 20-years and I prefer them for travel. I have a custom pair of J. Harvey Audio Angie paired with my AK120m2. At the time, the Angie's were the preferred match for the AKs. For travel, IEM's are hard to beat for their portability. A player and IEM use less space than even the smallest headphone case - Cascade, Aeon2? Get them custom fit to your ear canal, they are not coming out. They are just easy and unobtrusive and you can wear them anywhere. Sure, not as practical at the desk, but spend 44 hours in transit going halfway around the world to areas where maybe someone could run by and pull a headset off your head - they are not going to get an IEM. They will never see them. Hide the cord in your shirt and most people will never see it.

Zeos please do a review for The Kinera Freya

The problem with expensive IEMs is that they're very easy to lose/break. Spending that much money on speakers or headphones that never leave your room is one thing, but considering how many IEMs I've lost or washed, or dropped in a puddle(or toilet on one occasion), I'd never consider buying any pair more expensive than my Tin T2s.

@IsmaelMartinezPR

3 жыл бұрын

I am not alone, add the Blon 03 too.

@Mikurusenpai

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Prolly until tin p2s but id never leave my house with them

@ZReviews

3 жыл бұрын

When I had the U12t's at 2 grand. I was too afraid to unseat them when I went shopping with them once. Just paused the music and tried to hear the Cashier speak.. Never again.

@mrfrosty3

3 жыл бұрын

Many people can stretch their funds for the latest must have IEM but you can really only claim to be able to afford them, when losing or breaking them does not leave you absolutely gutted and with no chance of replacing them.

@IsmaelMartinezPR

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrfrosty3 Exactly when does diminishing returns comes into play? $100. $200. $400? As much as I love music and good reproduction, $900 although fun to see the review is just not 18 better than a set of T-2's.

Carvel vanilla soft serve is my all time favorite ice cream

I think that’s the best wall paper I’ve seen in a while

I use IEMs because they're discreet and I can wear one side at work without drawing too much attention to myself. Well, as much attention as a giant KZ ZS10 pro can...

The only thing I hated in this video, is the moving camera. loved the perspective expression which doesn't apply to 99 % of audiophiles. still loved it.

Have a problem. I was gifted a pair of blue tooth ear pods Galaxy live. Man the sound sucks way to low come paired to all my plug in items and headphones. I like the convenience of no wires, is there a such thing as a bluetooth amp that can give the ear pods more power to sound louder ?

Would a Fiio BTR5 be enough to drive something like this?

Ha! At least you’re honest. I’ll keep my Sony XBA-A2’s as long as my blessed iPhone 6s holds out.

A little curious on how does Z do reviews for iems/Headphone where the DAC/DAP has its own tonality attached to it. Like if this IEMs are going to sound the best if you have the M8 only or are the changes in sound minuscule enough that you dont notice performance difference until you A/B test them from dacs of the same class?? (lets assume that power output is adequate in all cases) Don't really have multiple DAC of same class to test it myself.

Did you like the kinera baldr? I only saw your unboxing.

When and where can I buy a set?

Got the Nanna 2 today and I am quite disappointed with the bass performance. Fit should be fine. Should I run it with something more powerful than a FiiO BTR?

How would you compare the original Nanna vs Nanna 2.0 in terms of sound ?

I use IEMs for comfort because headphones almost always either hurt my head, or make me head warmer. Even the best of the best, feel like a cloud, people forget they are wearing them headphones feel like a damn vice grip on my stupid bigass head.

I like how iems are in my brain

So which are better the nah nas or the skold?

I'm scared that I can hear the music he is playing, those things are so small and in his ear... HOW LOUD DOES DADDY Z LISTEN?!

I love my KZ ZS10 pro..probably my best iem that I’ve tried so far. Pair that with my btr3k and I’m in heaven! Does the job and more for my walks. Still on an audio adventure..for home use I have my grados sr125e and just got a pair of dt 770 pro 80ohm to replace my m50s which I couldn’t take the sound of those anymore! Haha.

@Assimilator702

3 жыл бұрын

Of all,you e ever heard is the ZS10 PRO try a set of Fiio FH3. Mind blowing!

@jlop8637

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll keep those in mind. Thanks for the recommendation!

@jlop8637

3 жыл бұрын

What would recommend that could be somewhat comparable to the fh3 on a budget level?

@Assimilator702

3 жыл бұрын

@@jlop8637 I would say Jade Audio EA3. It has one Knowles BA and a 14mm DD. The overall tuning is similar to the FH3 except for the mids are more forward on the FH3 and the FH3 pulls you into the recording a bit more. Nothing drastic.....but noticeable. Jade Audio EA1 is my second choice although you won’t get the detail with it being a single DD. It’s important with the EA3 that the tips are experimented with to cut the treble in case it’s too hot for you. The narrow bore tips that are included work great while with the EA1 the wide bore tips are my preference. Something slightly larger like the ones included with TRN sets also work nicely with the EA3.

@jlop8637

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Just got some new gear so I have to wait for awhile before I dive into something new. Might just wait and get the fh3’s. After you recommended them to me,I went online to check them out and people really seem to like them and I got excited!! Haha. The only real quality set of iems before my ks10’s that I have and tried are the shure se215s and the fiio fh1,which I liked but never got proper isolation with them and I tried a lot of differnt tips with them. Think I’ll be in for a nice treat with the fh3’s. Forgot to mention to that I also recently got some wireless buds..the soundpeats truengine3.. they’re pretty good! Have some nice bass and mids..a little rolled off on the table. The soundstage and separation are also great! Didn’t think they were going to perform like this.

And here I thought Zeos had been preaching that I should feel bad if I had something will multiple drivers per side

Happy to hear that im not completely stupid for thinking, "why do i have to use headphones if i can use speakers."

@ynstyne

3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree but after while my neck gets really tired carrying the weight of two bookshelf speakers on my head. :-(

@TheJbh147

3 жыл бұрын

@@ynstyne don't forget the backpack with the sub

@claudiotorres5305

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same but my first child was born and i could't listen my music with my speakers so i have to use headphones.

Kinera claims that the 2.0 is NOT retuned, only new color design. But Crin's graph shows definite difference compared to the original. Very strange! Z are you sure that the 2.0 sounds different compared to the original? I have these on order but now considering to cancel it because of the confusion; not really sure which version I'll get! By the way Kinera stays completely silent when asked about this!

@yogiwp_

3 жыл бұрын

UPDATE: I received confirmation from Kinera CS/rep (after confirming with their engineering team) that there was indeed a retune in 2021 on both the "original" (1.0) and 2.0 version. It's confusing because they seem use 1.0 and 2.0 naming to refer color variant only. Both 1.0 and 2.0 released in 2021 have been retuned. So it's all cleared up!

Damnit Zeos.......I swear you are the audiophile equivalent of a Snap-On truck. "Yay! it's my pay day." *truck pulls up* "never mind, its his pay day...."

@arancourt5623

3 жыл бұрын

More like it's payday, then it's a playday because, well, NEW TOYS!!

What I'm hearing here is that Kinera realized they suddenly had to compete with the Thieauido Monarch, so they retuned the Nana with a sub bass shelf.

How would these sound on the Dethonray Honey? Can the drive it?

Hi Zeos 🔥🔥🔥 !!!, do i need to worry about the charge loss of the permanently charged electrostatic iem drivers in this type of iems that dont use the energizers for the amplification? Thanks :)

@h_enrix_92

2 жыл бұрын

The Nanna's electrostatics aren't energized?

@matusjurcik6974

2 жыл бұрын

@@h_enrix_92 they are precharged. Although they are lowpowered i dont know if a normal amp can keep the charge. Maybe yes maybe not iam not an electrician. I just read some review where they expressed some concerns about this... I have them for 2 weeks now. I hope they will last for a long time.

@h_enrix_92

2 жыл бұрын

@@matusjurcik6974 I read one time that they need at least 1W of power to show its full potential...so yeah

Do you think A&K sr25 has enough power for these? Or Shanling M6 Pro?

just got my nanna 2. theyre pretty fantastic, in fact if i didnt have the unique melody mest i probably would not look any further. i love the fit as much as i do the legacy 3 (both id prefer over the bulky mest). but i feel the mest has a little more of a fuller and wide sound, more intimate vocals. more of a feeling like im not wearing any iems. i also like the bass on the nanna 2. if $900 is your endgame, get the nanna 2 and move on to headphones or speakers instead

@h_enrix_92

2 жыл бұрын

are you referring to mest mkl or mkll?

@c4monkey

2 жыл бұрын

@@h_enrix_92 mk1 I believe (intl version)

Do thieaudio Monarch review please please please

Will we possibly get a UTWS3 review?

@winstonhoong2134

3 жыл бұрын

Plus adapter from mmcx to 2pin on utws3 . I just wondering how much the adapter will messup the over ear fitting .

Karen from work whispering in my ear... goose dumps... and wishing HR dept doesn't exist... - true story

Kinera Nanna 2.0 are currently on sale on hifigo for $849 (11% off)

I've started to prefer IEMs over anything else. I can't turn my speakers up enough to get what I want out of them because apartment life, I sometimes just don't want headphones on my head because reasons, so IEMs have become my go-to lately. I can't get over how _big_ IEMs sound. I swear, hearing that kind of sound come out of something so small is astonishing.

When you are launching your bike down a fucking mountain is when you need IEM's!

Is it good to listen to bloodborn ?

Hello sir, is this bigger than Fiio FH3 ? I want to use it while sleeping, thank you, much love from Indonesia,

Just watched the entire thing. I'm sold on the Nan-na. Thank you Zeos. I just hope they don't launch the 3.0 this year.

I do indeed enjoy vanilla ice cream. And as for my favorite, it's a fight between "tramontana" and "dulce de leche with oreos" both "I can hazard a guess" are impossible to find outside Argentina. Looking at the other comments, not enough are about/mention Ice Cream, this is sacrilege.

please do the austrian audio HI-x55

When it's too warm to smoke a cigar on the porch with over-ears on.

This month i said " fuck it" bought LCD2c,GL2000 and thiaudio legacy 3( loved the legacy's but felt its a bit harsh on long listening with trebles). Yeah, am buying those.

@theodorezurla496

3 жыл бұрын

Are they worth it?

i cant rest my head if i have over ears on they just fall off

Love IEM dont like big things on my head. I got now Fh7 and tomorrow i go get Shanling me700 + m8

Vanilla ice cream is good, but I think chocolate chip cookie dough is better. Unrelated: Dunu and RHA make great IEM's too! Thank you for the great videos, Zeos!

He needs to do the theme from Katamari Damacy. Na na na na...

900$ and they're good? Astonishing. I never would have guessed it.

@ZReviews

3 жыл бұрын

You would be surprized.

@rafaeltavares6928

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZReviews guess again.

@kylerclarke2689

3 жыл бұрын

There are a shit tonne of mediocre ~$1000 iems

@rafaeltavares6928

3 жыл бұрын

@@kylerclarke2689 you missed the point didn't you stan? So cute 🤗

Nanananana versus Moondrop S8....?

When zeos is speechless just buy it,

@SussyBaka-em9rq

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry for your wallet... Or maybe your rich haha. Probably an engineer or something.

I have a pair of KBear KS2's and they get the job done for almost nothing.

2.5 cm to 1 inch ~ approx. 2.2 lb to 1 kg

Im wondering were all this hype about the Nanna 2.0 comes from. I bought them one month ago to pair them with the Shanling M8 and switched them to the Nannas 1.0. The mids were very nice but the bass was very slow, uncontrolled, muddy and didnt have a precise kick. It didnt go as low as on the version 1.0 which has a very nice, consistent and textured sub bass feel. The imaging was also inferior to the original Nannas, where the vocals are nicely separated on a stage and the instruments surround them from a distance. There is 3D feeling to the OG Nannas. On the 2.0 everything is blended and feels like playing in the same line. With the Shanling M8, the version 2.0 is inferior in almost every aspect (also Crinacle mentioned it). The only area where i would very slightly prefer the 2.0 v are the hights. They are bit sweeter and maybe very slightly more detailed. But thats all. The v 2.0 could be a great upgrade but its actually a downgrade IMHO.

Can I request a review with the headphones that block out your own voice the most. Play music the whole time so that you can't hear yourself talk and I want to see how slurred and disjointed your articulation is after a 25min rant. You're scared. You won't.

What do you do for a living? 🧐

6:40 GL2000 > STAX?

Best IEM market description 27:55: "They're decahedral... hinge?"

Another great video Zeos!!! Thanks

I like vanilla... but pistacchio is my favorite

Anyone know what IEMs Lady Gaga was wearing yesterday during the inauguration?

@ryancrow2773

3 жыл бұрын

Probably some Shure's

@johnhayes8476

3 жыл бұрын

She usually uses jh audio jh16 pro customs.

Could you recommend to these high(er) end IEM manufacturers to offer 2.5mm or 4.4mm balanced cables?

Hope you find Dope audio planar iem for review

@Wittgepedia

3 жыл бұрын

Audeze iSine20

@prabinpaudel5572

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wittgepedia he did isine20 review already. I wasn't talking about iem that's dope. There's a company called dope. Idk if you were confused and wrote this or just are suggesting isines

@mrfrosty3

3 жыл бұрын

@@prabinpaudel5572 the Russian planars that come in what looks like a ration tin? They indeed look very cool.