Him: “You can’t shoot me I’m unarmed” Greene: “So were those kids” Him: 😮

@detmstr341

7 ай бұрын

Neither were those kids you evil (BLEEP!)🤬

@bernayhansondescendantofth9969

5 ай бұрын

He can be charged with 1rst degree capital murder for that. Because I would say the parents of those kids would've beaten him for that. He even had the gun with him, so he lied to the officer. Judging by the look on his face, he didn't care that he let that happen. I guess his mom would be very upset and angry at him for doing that.

@aznthy

5 ай бұрын

Lol, no he didn't care.

@detmstr341

4 ай бұрын

@@aznthy It shows how evil he really was.

@thefighter5182

4 ай бұрын

I wouldn't care either. Because judging by the look on Green's face, he wanted to kill him but he couldn't do it. Yeah screw you Green.

When the guy said are you still going to charge me and the officer said hell yeah, I couldn’t stop laughing.

@detmstr341

5 ай бұрын

There was an escaped killer on the loose. So, the cops were in no mood for games.

"YOU STILL GONNA CHARGE ME?!?" "Oh HELL YEAH!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@teratism.1

4 ай бұрын

npc

@Aggression-hc3yp

Ай бұрын

One of the best episodes of the show.

@timothyhannon4078

13 күн бұрын

To be fair he told them after Green gave him a last chance, which he didn’t take until it was too late. That’s like asking to redo a test after your report cards been handed out.

So the guy broke out to get his mom to forgive him but got upset and shot kids cuz he angry. Pathetic

@dmf1301

Жыл бұрын

He was IN jail because he slaughtered multiple people in the first place. It’s not like he had a conscience before he got upset because mummy wouldn’t forgive him for those killings.

@user-ig3oq7ty7m

Жыл бұрын

Based

@mikeh6084

9 ай бұрын

What’s equally pathetic is the door to the school is wide open and anyone could just walk in

@antmagor

9 ай бұрын

Sociopathy/psychopathy 101

@Epic11705

9 ай бұрын

@@dmf1301so he could most likely be a sociopath or severely bipolar

The guy who helped him escape will make a deal in a heartbeat. He'll throw him under the bus so fast.

@TechNick94

Жыл бұрын

He is extra stupid because cops can't make deals.

@kalcibone

Жыл бұрын

He is now an accessory to multiple child murders~!

@podsmpsg1

Жыл бұрын

@@TechNick94 DA does. That's what I meant.

@TechNick94

Жыл бұрын

@@podsmpsg1 yup, but no DA was present when he spilled his guts

@podsmpsg1

Жыл бұрын

@@TechNick94 Yeah.

Green was one of the best detectives on the show. It's a shame that he didn't stay on the show that long once he got promoted to senior detective.

@PADRII

2 ай бұрын

Martin missed stage work. So much so, he was scared to go back if he was out of the game too long. Wished he finished season 18 though.

@Hydrix710

Ай бұрын

I'm sure Central City appreciates him as much as NYC does

"Hey Rex, how's it going? Don't move!" Ooh, that's badass! Cassady was pretty genuine for a rookie. I think she'd have been great on SVU.

@jujujupiter

Жыл бұрын

Cassady is not a rookie. She’s a new detective.

@rogerbarrett1979

Жыл бұрын

@@jujujupiter oh okay

@cjfromny

Жыл бұрын

I wish she would have been on a little longer tho

@rogerbarrett1979

Жыл бұрын

@@cjfromny you and me both!

@cjfromny

Жыл бұрын

@@rogerbarrett1979 wonder why she left so early

I have to be candid about this. The minute that Det. Greene, put the gun to the guy’s chest. “I saw the guy lunge, for Det Greene’s gun. Greene shot him, in self defense!” And I would have testified to that; in open court…

@mr5yy

Жыл бұрын

I seriously doubt anyone in that room would have said anything against him after seeing that.

@aphlaomega1654

Жыл бұрын

And u are just as much as a dirt bag as the shooter

@joshuahiltpold248

Жыл бұрын

everytime i see this scene i just think "magdump him in his balls. i'll say it was a struggle"

@EricLing64

Жыл бұрын

Just a tiny bit trickier these days with bodycams. Though on the other hand the police tend to respond during the shooting so they are more than justified in just killing the people right there. Think the only recent one that was taken into custody alive was the one at a grocery store, but that was, I think a year ago now or a bit more. Oh and one that attacked a night club, but in that case the patrons fought back, and beat him bloody. Still, even with bodycams it would just be up to a jury to decide, I would imagine there might be at least one or two that would refuse to find guilty if a case like this arose, on the officer/detective. But it's a pretty wild scenario, and that might be pushing into jury misconduct a little bit if they're very blatant and weird about why they're saying no.

@raymondweston8997

Жыл бұрын

@@mr5yy The time period, when this story, took place. Bodycams weren't as prevalent. Even with bodycams being active; its still difficult to get a conviction, against police. The most that a civilian, can hope for; is a civil lawsuit. I highly doubt, that any next of kin, would sue on this dirt bag's behalf.

this is the scene I have been looking for! finally uploaded! when green points the gun at the shooter and everyone just watches him like they have np that he is going to shoot him

@Suisfonia

Жыл бұрын

Frankly it's no loss if he does shot him, afterall, he just killed four innocent kids.

@dmf1301

Жыл бұрын

The guy was right - the cops can’t legally shoot a disarmed and restrained suspect. However, no one in the room even tried to stop Ed… and if he’d fired, I doubt that even one of them would have gotten on the stand and admitted that he shot the guy after he was disarmed and restrained. I mean, he just shot a bunch of little kids for no reason. 😢

@bluefootwalking

Жыл бұрын

"8 people in the room, no one saw Green pull the trigger...it was the weirdest thing!"

@RhyperiorRanger

10 ай бұрын

“I don’t know what happened. I just looked up and all of a sudden this lowlife had a bullet in his chest. I must’ve went temporarily blind.”

@curtisberard7831

10 ай бұрын

He's be more likely to have twelve jurors award him with a medal than vote for a conviction.

This is the episode where a serial killer got killed by a vengeful father. Said father had a lawyer.

@juliantapia1407

Жыл бұрын

Do you know how it all played out in the end?

@rickrobincagnaan214

Жыл бұрын

@@juliantapia1407 It was found out that the lawyer for the vengeful father was found to have committed proxy murder and used the case for her own gain. This vengeful father willingly committed murder, but he might have been a pawn for her political ambitions. 3-10 years for manslaughter for this father, lawyer gets life in prison.

Detective Green is like detective stabler Always trying not to eat his gun

@antmagor

9 ай бұрын

Disagree, Elliot could let his temper get the better of him and to his detriment. Ed always had a higher impulse control threshold.

As soon as the scumbag said, "You gonna shoot me? I'm unarmed."? I'm yelling into my radio, "HE'S COMIN' RIGHT FOR US!" and emptying the magazine into him at point-blank range. This is probably why I'm not a cop. -_-

@karenjordan9607

Жыл бұрын

I felt the same way 😢

@KamiraXIV

Жыл бұрын

We can't say "it's coming right for us!" anymore, we have to say that we "thin out their numbers", to prevent overpopulation.

@CardenHansen

Жыл бұрын

Oh im sure several cops would do the same thing, i seen several times where they could have gotten an easy headshot, had SWAT acted quick enough.

@vsal3782

3 ай бұрын

Same answer for me

4:25 “Every body turn around…I want no witnesses.”

“It’s been awhile since I’ve encountered true evil. Congratulations, you won yourself a VIP pit in Hell.”

No wonder his mom wouldn't forgive him.

None of the swat guys trying to stop Green, just chilling

This was one of the more rough episodes for me to shake off after watching.

@mikeh6084

9 ай бұрын

I can’t get over the fucking fact that the door to an elementary school is wide open and anyone can just walk in

@dylanram4653

9 ай бұрын

anyone could get in anyways ven if the door wasnt opened the problem is theres no security in schools and no one else with guns to protect the kids@@mikeh6084

@Icecube88

8 ай бұрын

haven't been in elementary school in years. I am 33. I don't have any kids. is that not a normal thing?@@mikeh6084

@HardcoreLevelingBaka

Ай бұрын

@@mikeh6084 That’s what It’s like in American schools, there really should be better security.

Oh wow this is accurate. Besides the fact they catch the guy afterwards they always eat their own gun before the police strolls in.

@detmstr341

8 ай бұрын

It disgusts me that the supreme court could spare this monster's (won't even mention his name) miserable life, but, don't seem to care about the victims who die at his feet.

Proof how evil someone can be, not even children are safe from how selfish and evil people are.

I am so angry that those kids were murdered.

@nickerskine6326

11 ай бұрын

same here.

@mikeh6084

9 ай бұрын

And it’s infuriating that someone left the door wide fucking open for anyone to come in

@dylanram4653

9 ай бұрын

the door didnt matter if it was open or not most schools have glass doors, the problem is theres no one in there with a gun to protect the kids@@mikeh6084

@HardcoreLevelingBaka

Ай бұрын

@@mikeh6084It’s an American school, for some reason we don’t lock the doors to our schools.

@mikeh6084

Ай бұрын

@@HardcoreLevelingBaka a lot of them do, I remember watching the video of Uvalde, and that door had a lock on it but the fucking thing was broken and Salvador Ramos walked right in after the shootings he committed before.

What’s sad is that years later this episode is even more relevant than ever before, with school shootings nowadays.

@anubispup4760

Жыл бұрын

There've been school shootings for a long long time now. It's just that with my media and internet the way it is today we can have the news on them at our fingertips in a heartbeat.

@KINGofGUNS

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, police should have just gone in immediately. Don't give these monsters a chance to barricade or start shooting kids.

@EricLing64

Жыл бұрын

@@KINGofGUNS I believe that is the training these days, don't remember what year this episode was made but it might have been before some of the crazier school shootings. Except for Uvalde, I think most of the recent mass shootings have had the police just go in and kill the guy without trying to negotiate or anything.

@mikeh6084

9 ай бұрын

Unsecured schools with doors that are wide open or that can be accessed from the outside…

@teratism.1

4 ай бұрын

blame gun activists

The “Oh HELL yeah!” got me

THAT escalated quickly.

I was not ready for this.

4:14 he must have had guts to not shoot this guy

@kateofone

Жыл бұрын

Cowardness. I would have

@TheBlueWasabi

Жыл бұрын

@@kateofone 😮💀💀💀

@nickerskine6326

11 ай бұрын

@@kateofone but you'd only be doing him a favor. he would've suffered a lot worse in prison.

@katherinkeegan8601

3 ай бұрын

​@@nickerskine6326Would he? Used to be that anyone who did anything bad to a kid would pay in prison, I don't think that's the case anymore. Our broken system doesn't even try to punish them anymore.

@nickerskine6326

3 ай бұрын

@@katherinkeegan8601 true. but from what I've heard prisoners have an unspoken rule. if you mess with kids you won't last long in jail.

Back when babies getting shot in school was something we tried to avoid

The message of only lowest not even human scum of the earth would do this and has happened just because someone is going through a rough life doesn't give anyone the right to hurt others who did nothing to wrong them in the first place.

This is my favorite law & order S17 episode

Now a days the police wouldn't back off for a hostage situation on kids. They go in hard to reduce deaths.

Ive always been a long time fan of law and order series but this episode was always a stark reminder of some very strong advice given to me by a sheriff's deputy and police lieutenant that were family friends. Law enforcement can only ever be a response service/force, the first line of defense in any situation involving safety is yourself. Life and death falls in each of our hands daily, your choice.

HANK VOIGHT: "Look, Ed, we'll all swear to it. He had a knife in a wrist rig and pulled it when you tried to slap on the cuffs. Good shoot; no-one will say anything different. Hell, they'll call you a hero."

1:08 is pretty funny with greens response

He was instead killed by that grieving father who was set up to do it by his own defense attorney

I was really too hard to swallow this messup

Finally an episode I haven’t seen…WTF I gotta find this

@32MattyB

Ай бұрын

Lol I'm still looking for it. Peacock doesn't go that far in the seasons. Just to season 13

The truck just had to backfire

It just occurred to me something, and this is speaking from a behind the scenes perspective. You noticed a lot of exterior shots of the hostage situation taking place. I am betting that during the time of that being shown, the production crew/make up artists, was prepping the kids (to appear dead) for the next scene at that very same time.

@IMR95

8 ай бұрын

Hmmm...I don't think that's how it work for movie and tv. They shoot scene out of order and for convenient sake, so that mean the scene could've been taken when it was filming inside the school.

@WintermothStudios

8 ай бұрын

If this were theater or other live performance, you'd be absolutely correct, but in TV/Film that's not at all how it works. For one, movies are never shot in order. The last scene filmed is as likely in the middle of the movie as it is to be from the end. The exterior and interior scenes probably weren't even done on the same day. Scenes lasting only a few seconds can take hours to complete. A single shot is often done multiple times. The oscillation between interior/exterior keeps the scene's pacing--and therefor the tensions--high, stressing the chaos and urgency of the situaiton.

Nah bro that "Hell Yeah" was Personal.

Oh those poor kids. Dead because of backfiring truck.

@detmstr341

5 ай бұрын

I know, It sickens me too. The state could spare that animal's miserable life, but, several people, including those kids, have to die at his feet.

He is a sad bully in a grown man's. He's never stops stops, never change and won't be luck through the den of farms. He is sane and he'll disappear like yesterday news paper. We looked the other way from movies and show. To pretend, but this always happens when like this repeat again.😢 Time to change the system

@jesuscoyt-munoz2753

Жыл бұрын

@Siobhan Conneely true. I get why people oppose the death penalty but serial killers like him should be put down. Their like rabid animals that are too dangerous to be left alive.

"OH HELL YEAH" 😂

Horrible ! 😢

this looks like the woodside neighborhood in Queens

Uvalde level swat team

I am completely aware this is a TV show or not real but please tell me the state executed this guy in this episode?

@cromano6830

Жыл бұрын

He’s was killed by one of the girls dad later in the episode.

@jamiemartin1434

Жыл бұрын

@@cromano6830 Who got him in president of first place or girls who were the child victims of his school child shooting ?Also was the prosecutor for the death penalty?

@cromano6830

Жыл бұрын

@@jamiemartin1434 sorry I don’t understand your first question. But yes the prosecutor was in favor of death

would of broke every bone in his body but even better i think throw him in prison and tell all the inmates what he did they would gladely kill him or beat the heck out of him

@dr.vegapunk5853

Жыл бұрын

yeah cuz they are so different from him

@EricLing64

Жыл бұрын

@@dr.vegapunk5853 There are prison hierarchies, you can hear former inmates or lawyers talk about it. People that target kids are... well at the bottom. That said I think these types tend to get either the death penalty or sent to those super supermaxes. I'm not sure they even bother with solitary confinement, they just turn your life into a scheduled regimen every day I think. Well, setting aside this episode's plot where he's killed by a victim's father. I'm guessing police and court guards, even if they kind of would want to see it happen, don't want to get the families tied up in the legal system either for doing so, so there's a fair amount of security around such cases.

@queenesther09

10 ай бұрын

Even criminals have standards, and people who kill kids are considered the bottom of the heap. I doubt they would have a very kind fate in store for him.

I would have pulled the trigger in a heartbeat.

@queenesther09

10 ай бұрын

From the looks on their faces, I doubt anyone would have stopped him.

...Isn't that the same actor who played Sean Ridgeway in Season 13's "Maritime"? I guess they brought him back to play an infinitely more vile killer who, frankly, doesn't get the slow and painful death he deserves. He gets killed, sure, but it's far too quick. Before anyone starts, Sean Ridgeway may have murdered three people, but he's still less vile than Leon Vorgitch.

@matthewforsyth284

Жыл бұрын

Uh you do realize he still suffered because he’s dead right!?

@detmstr341

8 ай бұрын

Craig Walker to be exact.

4:20 fair enough

What season and episode is this?

@Admlcamus

Жыл бұрын

Season 17, Episode 9 "Deadlock"

One Word To Describe This: Terrible.

thank goodness its a show I can't help but laugh because it was probably a truck farting leading to the deaths of those kids

Greene: Why'd you have to shoot them? Him: Why not? A man with a block of ice where his heart is supposed too be.

Does anyone know, did Greene shoot him? I would guess no, but I would understand if he did

i very sad when he shoot the kids 😢

I know this is just T.V. Series but hes a monster !!

oh what now jon? ur gonna act a victim.😂😂 ur good.

Where Barry Allen to save the day? 😂

I would've shot him without even thinking..kids??? Why

@joshbenedetti1292

Жыл бұрын

Well it's illegal to shoot someone who's unarmed.

@felisd

Жыл бұрын

I dunno... regardless of circumstances, shooting a perp in cold blood while he is unarmed and detained would get the book thrown at you pretty hard and could result in loss of a job at best and years in prison with felons you may have put there at middle-best. The question is: is that piece of scum really worth throwing away the rest of your life?

@harrisonmcarthur7816

Жыл бұрын

@@felisd I think for many of us, yes, it would be worth it.

@felisd

Жыл бұрын

@@harrisonmcarthur7816 I dunno... maybe if it would bring the kids back, but otherwise, killing him after the fact while unarmed and detained doesn't help anyone beyond giving you a brief second of relief and a literal lifetime of suffering. Personally, I would rather see him indicted and put behind bars with no bail, and let the legal system do it's job. If he was put into general, most of those inmates would make his life hell once they learned what he did for however long he's there for. If he's put in solitary, that's a whole other level of punishment as well. Let HIM have the lifetime of suffering.

@francisolojo1351

Жыл бұрын

@@felisd I dunno, I'm just saying my first reflex will be to shoot him dead point blank, l will deal with all you've said afterwards.... He had no reason to kill those kids and showed no remorse... Every juror would understand my mitigating circumstances

Come green cool off

I'm pretty sure if greene shot him a few of the officers at least will back him that he was armed lay him down with the gun

You don’t wait when there’s kids involved. Just ask the Uvalde cowards.

Omg not cool man

REX AND LEON?! THATS MY DAD'S FIRST AND MIDDLE NAMES

please tell me he pulls the trigger after this clip ends

Crazy how this was considered something that was incredibly heinous back then but now this happens every week in the USA :(

@mikeh6084

9 ай бұрын

Unsecured, soft targets wide-open door, or one that could be accessed from the outside… no security…

@lunerwerewolf

6 ай бұрын

That's what schools were like back then, I was a freshman when Columbine happened. And I remember the horror of the incident even from another state. But mostly I remember the sight of our principle and Vice principal closing the schools previously ornamental gates for the first time. I remember it because even though this was thought to be a one time horrible event it changed how my tiny private school operated out of an abundance of caution

@finnsnow2495

5 ай бұрын

@@mikeh6084 Yeah, crazy how other first world countries don't have this problem yet also don't need to have the schools act as prisons. Also the way America works the wealthy school districts do have security it's the poor ones that don't and since Americans hate tax they will never ever resolve this issue on a public level. Personally, not sure treating schools like even more of a prison is a solution but even if it was it isn't possible with the way America funds it's schools

@mikeh6084

5 ай бұрын

@@finnsnow2495 you’re the only one here who said of treating schools like prisons. So then airports, banks, federal buildings, etc are treated like prisons? Just because a place has security that’s automatically treating it like a prison huh?

@0g.Ghost.7373

Ай бұрын

@@finnsnow2495 "first world"? If being a subject to the ones in power is "first world" then what is a free country like the USA?

Harmed kids? Hes gonna get real love in prison when he returns.

I’m pulling the trigger honestly

Did he shoot him ?

Why not?-sun tzu

He played a junkie on another episode

I bet that officer who left his post use the bathroom got fired

@jamesobriant1417

11 ай бұрын

Naw it’s not his fault

Wth happened at the end, did he shoot him at least in the arm

If I were the judge, I would send him to prison. No protective custody, and let the other inmates know why he is in there. That would be better than Detective Greene shooting him.

Cliffhanger.

Its just a show, its just a show.

Uvalde.

2:51 Why do they always say "they all die" he doesn't have enough bullets.

turn off the body cam and let him have it

Prime exsample to keep your mouth shut because cops will do anything to lie to you. Winning is to always lawyer up.

So he shot the kids cause he thought the noise from the truck was gunfire?

@jamesobriant1417

11 ай бұрын

Apparently

@mikeh6084

9 ай бұрын

And someone left the front door wide open for anyone to walk in?

@joshuagross3151

3 ай бұрын

​Apparently

Let him go to trial. The other prisoners will carry out the sentence for you.

Put him in general population, the inmates will take care of him

He is extra cautious about with this suspect he has entered the school he is armed with a hand gun not leaving the area

Gotta say if I was Greene I’d pull the trigger. I bet no one would care it’s like that therapist who ran over that abusive husband and child killer Jacob Lowenstein.

I have never been a supporter of excessive force by the police but I guess there is a first time for everything. lol

😳

The inmates are going to have some fun with the child murderer in prison

@cromano6830

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, about that

@ryanfraser167

Жыл бұрын

The child murderer already killed 2 prison guards I don't think other inmates concern him...

@matthewforsyth284

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and he is already dead since Robert unfortunately killed him.

@rickrobincagnaan214

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewforsyth284 vengeful father and willing pawn of a lawyer with political ambitions.

Only cowards take hostages.

Dizzy and confused diabetic doesn't need meds, need Carbs, juice. Yes, I know for FACT...

Lucky he wasn't in Chicago...he would of became SGT Voights punching bag in the cage 😜😜😜😜😉😉😉

You don’t have to agree with me but if it were me I would’ve let him live so he could spend the rest of his psychotic life behind bars. Death is too quick and simple a punishment for guys like this, it’s worse to have their lives waste away doing nothing but sit in a cell eat sleep repeat until their old and die of complications. Death is horrible but having your life be robbed of freedom where death is your only escape is much worse.

@nela9994

Жыл бұрын

Except, he was, already in that situation, when he broke out to ask his mother for forgiveness … so, apparently him being in prison didn’t matter much to him.

@bonegirl5852

Жыл бұрын

I would have been more than happy to see him beaten to the point that he's crippled before being sent to prison. That way the inmates would have an easier time with him.

@angelachouinard4581

10 ай бұрын

@@nela9994 I don't know what he was in for before but even in prison people who hurt kids are hated. He'd spend the rest of his life in solitary where it's much harder to escape. Otherwise he'd be taken out by another inmate.

@nela9994

10 ай бұрын

@@angelachouinard4581 not always, people who are in prison live by hope, or by accumulating local power. He already was in for the long haul, and when recaptured was just going back to a place that he left, against the will of society to begin with. Prison is supposed to be either reformative, or punishment, and it doesn’t seem to be either for him.

@angelachouinard4581

10 ай бұрын

@@nela9994 I've known people who done time and it's not really an enjoyable life but if he was already in for a long term, yes it would be not much different. Still, lots of prisoners have kids and pedophiles for example, are often targets in prison.

These episodes just reinforce that we need the death penalty

In cases like this it should be legal to shoot him in the foot.

Leon Vorgitch was the worst criminal ever on Law & Order

@detmstr341

6 ай бұрын

Even his own mother wanted nothing to do with him. She even blocked his calls.

@jamesobriant1417

6 ай бұрын

How did she do that?@@detmstr341

@joshuagross3151

3 ай бұрын

I don't know, Darryl Kern was pretty goddamn awful.

Fun fact, she can't go into call logs without a warrant.

@juliantapia1407

Жыл бұрын

I'm honestly not sure if that law was already made by the time this episode came out. Looking at cell phone call logs which can be edited vs service provider call logs are different things

Those gun free zones operating as intended.

Spoiler alert. The guy ends up getting what he deserves in like the next scene lol.

If you had an armed and dangerous person, the school should have been on lockdown.

Never talk