he’s like the conceptually perfect antagonist to a bat themed hero

@BBadolato

7 ай бұрын

The sad thing is before the Second Red Hood, or anything like that he was the first Anti-Batman, and originally a not-so insignificant threat.

@KillerMoth_Stumpy

7 ай бұрын

​​@@BBadolatoalso the first villain to ever find out who Batman is. Although Ra's al Ghul usually gets credit for it, Moth did it first

@jakeutage374

7 ай бұрын

Oh like fly-guy to Spider-Man

@henrygambles3652

6 ай бұрын

@@KillerMoth_StumpyYeah I always liked Moth, he’s an interesting villian even if he’s treated as somewhat of a joke!

@joshuaconnall4237

3 ай бұрын

Imagine The Batman sequel had killer moth as the villian who would have basically had the same tragic backstory as Batman only he never had wealth, meaning he had to find his own way to survive off of scraps until he decided to make a name for himself selling weapons to try fill in the penguins role

I love how Teen Titans basically said "Screw It" and just made him a mad scientist/single dad. Like Bro is a completely different character and it was hilarious.

@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511

7 ай бұрын

Quiero que algún día hagan una serie o película en donde vuelvan un aterrador supervillano a condiment King

@thebigvega4415

7 ай бұрын

Holy sh*t i just realized that was supossed to be him! That's how different they made him 😂

@m.lanzoni9306

6 ай бұрын

Hey, perhaps he looks different but he was badass there. The only time Killer Moth was well-written.

@benduford3746

5 ай бұрын

I’d love if more future incarnation take from the Teen Titans versions

@bostonrailfan2427

4 ай бұрын

this guy ignored that Moth was actually a decent villain at the time if Teen Titans, hence that version of him…

All jokes aside killer moth does have potential to be a good villan if they have a good writer and origin

@henreymichelson

7 ай бұрын

Not a good villain but a good character not like a good person a interesting one but a horrible villain

@jelanitaylor3406

7 ай бұрын

i think so to he is a very sad character he is treated like trash he has a lot of potenti

@GingeryGinger

7 ай бұрын

Any character has potential to be a good one if they’ve got a good writer and origin.

@LCBK

7 ай бұрын

Maybe have a one shot where killer moth is finally able to pull off a big scheme and everything goes right and when he is caught the cops and the bat family wonder how he was able to come off as an actual threat this time, and it will end with killer moth smiling after hearing that

@jjwang7597

7 ай бұрын

That’s every single character ever

How the fuck can you forget Batman: Gotham Nights #7? The story where you see flashbacks of a young Batman facing Killer Moth in his prime. Every trick that Killer Moth used to escape or best Batman during every fight only influenced Batman more. Moth became his inspiration. Years later, Batman runs into him again trying to flee. Eventually Moth is caught, but he shows respect to his foe. He even says (to the now-older Moth which he caught, trying to pull of one last crime before retirement) that Killer Moth's costume is awesome.

@randallflagg3700

7 ай бұрын

Damn right. *"Unplanned Obsolescence"* is one of my favorite Gotham Nights stories... "I can't imagine that's how he wanted to go..." "Wearing that costume?" "No, shot dead by a night watchman. The costume's awesome." Killer Moth has also been having a pretty big role recently in *"The Joker: The Man who Stopped Laughing"* , we're 11 issues in and he makes a pretty funny duo with the Joker.

@theheavysleeper2845

5 ай бұрын

I do like the idea that killer moth was just the uncatchable villain. Also thanks so much, I read this story and forgot where I read it from.

@cheesemoon6319

3 ай бұрын

I read the comic after reading your comment, that comic is awesome.

Killer Moth was apparently created as a vigilante counterpart to Batman a vigilante who helps villains instead of the cops which would be used multiple times in the future with characters like Wraith or Prometheus. Ive always loved how much Kite Man Killer Moth's determination to be taken seriously is an admirable aspect of the character I also love the idea of the Misfits being a team of D-list Batman villains teaming up with Killer Moth, they should really bring that team back in the current continuity

@ulyssesveracruz8343

7 ай бұрын

Like it woulbd been a the dc version of guardians of the galaxy but with batman villans

@milkiassamuel780

7 ай бұрын

@@ulyssesveracruz8343 Kind of yeah, though I do think The Flash already has a team like that called The Rogues made out of some of his villains, which I do prefer personally

@ulyssesveracruz8343

7 ай бұрын

@@milkiassamuel780 it could be the bootleg rougues 😅 or maybe batman version of rogues

@alexisislas-gonzalez5991

7 ай бұрын

But considering they made calendar man less of a typical villain more a typical serial killer that often commits murder on holidays

@theheavysleeper2845

4 ай бұрын

I think it would be a cool if a handful of these d list villains teamed up. But they only team up because they don’t like all of the killings and murder that is happening in the newer comics and opt out for older style heists. Like some kind of glory days team

Killer Moth was in the 2004 The Batman. They did have him transform into the giant moth monster, but still kept the dorky, awkward personality. The guy really can't catch a break ANYWHERE

@MILDMONSTER1234

7 ай бұрын

I thought that was teen titans killer moth

@jordanloux3883

7 ай бұрын

@@MILDMONSTER1234 No, that Killer Moth was the stressed out single dad

@RookTVchannel

3 ай бұрын

@@jordanloux3883He turned into a moth monster in both.

First time I was introduced to him was LEGO Batman: the video game and yeah I agree he’s is criminally underrated and deserves to be written better. If Polka-dot man & The Spot can be written into more dangerous and better villains then I see no reason Killer Moth can have the same.

@plugshirt1762

3 ай бұрын

I’m calling it now killer motions gonna get the spit treatment and be the main villain in a Batman movie one of these days. And if it never happens I shall dedicate my life to making a Batman movie where Batman dies to killer moth because no one can stop me

While often credited to Ra's al Ghul, Killer Moth was actually the first ever villain to find out who Batman is.

I like his portrayal in the Teen Titans show. He looks cool and menacing there (for a mutant moth scientist) while also being so much more competent and a threat to the team. He also has a spoiled human daughter who wants to date Robin and makes Starfire super jealous. He just called and threatened the Titans that he will destroy the city unless Robin takes his daughter to prom, lol. I like that episode.

I love how he’s basically the exact opposite of Batman. He’s just some dude, who’s trying to get by and pay his rent, whilst the world at large disregards him. Which makes him surprisingly relatable when you really think about it.

Man, having everyone laugh at you as you try so hard to achieve what you want. Never thought I'd relate to Killer Moth

@Acacius1992

6 ай бұрын

Same

Killer Moth is a truly tragic comic book villain he was created in 1951(the tail end of the Golden Age) was the very first anti-Batman villain ever made and was originally taken not only seriously but also as a cunning and challenging treat to Batman and Robin it’s since the Silver Age that he became the joke that he is today

I love Killer Moth's character design so much, It's such a cool outfit and I hate when they try to make him dorky to the point where it's impossible to take him seriously or try to "modernise" him in a way that takes away from his character. He's perfectly capable, in his first appearance he nearly bested Batman & Robin and then proceeded to seemingly die after nearly being caught, but he's also this dorky fan of Batman in a bright purple costume that drives a car with his face on it.

I really love killer moth, he’s kind of like if Batman never was taken seriously by criminals and struggle to make the dream he desired come true.😺

It'd be great if Killer Moth got the Spot treatment and was made into an actual threat after being crowned on by everyone for so long.

Not exactly a 100% my idea but I want Killer Moth to get The Spot treatment from ATSV. Having him start off as the laughable villain that no one takes seriously and slowly transform into the dread of Gotham could be an awesome thing to experience as an audience. One idea that is mine though is that in this scenario, as Killer Moth becomes more deadly, he would eventually become/adopt the persona of Prometheus. The transformation of "the moth to the flame" to the bringer of fire itself could be a cool element that would add to his transition into the more sinister and powerful.

@jonathanwatson4484

7 ай бұрын

there actully an episode on an forgotten batman tv show called the batman (it pretty good) were moth works as an getaway driver for the penguin, but then becomes more deadly it pretty good, since it combine both moth old design with the monster design

After the Joker War, Bats decided he needed all the help he could get, enlisting Harley Quinn, Ghostmaker, Clownhunter, etc.. You’d think he’d offer Killer Moth a chance at something different, see if he’s good at being good, even if it wouldn’t last. Speaking of KM, I think my first exposure to him was also Lego Batman or 2004’s The Batman TV show. Remember that?

If fucking Clue Master can get a major glow up than I don’t see why a guy with a potentially unique gimmick couldn’t

This dudes been one of my favorites since I was a kid. I always hated the fact that the Lego games made him out to be more of a bigger villain than he actually is.

@angeloclemente6913

7 ай бұрын

Why? That's where the majority of the love of the character comes from.

@ghhn4505

2 ай бұрын

@@angeloclemente6913 Because it set him up with false expectations

Killer Moth actually has a pretty big role currently in *Joker: The Man who Stopped Laughing* ... we're 11 issues in right now, and Killer Moth makes a good duo with Joker.

@camerondodge2070

7 ай бұрын

Let me ask you, what do you think of that series so far? I keep hearing that it's awful, but what you said makes me want to read it.

@transmundanetea3487

7 ай бұрын

@@camerondodge2070I’ve read it and really enjoyed it

@camerondodge2070

7 ай бұрын

@@transmundanetea3487 Well, that's all the endorsement I need. Thank you.

@vinegarenthusiast7043

7 ай бұрын

killer moth is the one normal criminal in gotham who's constantly at the mercy of whatever nutjob is paying his bills this week

@randallflagg3700

5 ай бұрын

@@camerondodge2070 - Oof, sorry I'm one month late to answer your question, but I wasn't notified for some reason! I'd say give it a shot if you enjoyed the 2021/2022 "The Joker" miniseries (15 issues long by James Tynion IV), since *The Man who Stopped Laughing* is a direct sequel. If you're intrigued by the whole "3 Jokers" subplot, then it's the kind of title that you'll enjoy, and since it bled out into the main *"Batman"* title it's one of those miniseries that are important if you're a completionist. Although, if we're talking pure quality, and if we don't care about official main DC canon, there is a _DC Black Label_ Joker-oriented title that was ,IMHO, much better and published at the same time called *Batman & the Joker: Deadly Duo* (7 issues long by Marc Silvestri).

I’ve always liked Killer Moth’s design, even if it is a bit gaudy. I think having such a flashy color scheme also works for the whole “anti-Batman” angle. I also just really like the mask.

i feel like Killer Moth is getting a lot of love from fans recently, always nice to see. and now he's even gotten recognition from a big comic channel. perhaps one day DC will finally realize his greatness. love your videos man

@moshymosh

7 ай бұрын

Recently? Bro we've BEEN here for a long time.

@extremeIycoolguy

7 ай бұрын

@@moshymosh true lol

Bro Killer Moth being the anti Batman is such an interesting idea. I wish writers would do something with that idea

Yo Lego Batman was how I discovered Killer Moth too. Very underrated game.

Something else about Killer Moth, when Booster Gold travels back in time and disguises himself as Killer Moth beats up Batman then puts Killer Moth back in his suit, in the far future Killer Moth ends up becoming a professional Anti-Batman with a blimp and signal. So i guess all he really needed was a confidence boost?

Bro said “Lego Batman” and I was like “YOUR ME!!!”

He seems like someone you’d see in the suicide squad movies that dies at the beginning to set the steaks

You know when I first read about Killer Moth, I was thinking: Yeah he sucks as a villain, but I wonder if he would make a good hero or anti-hero. He could join up with the Suicide Squad or even reinvent himself as a hero. I guess I just don't like the idea of kicking someone while they're down.

Never being the greatest and just accepting who you are is something that resonates with like 90% of men and even the world. Damn.

@lightborn9071

6 ай бұрын

Men ARE great. You just have to stop listening to those who talk down on you, or you'll never realise your potential.

YOOOOO KILLER MOTH SQUAD LETS FREAKING GOOOOOOO in all seriousness, I think Killer Moth is the best version of the "Batman but eeEEEeevil" gimmick that has been done to death (Hush, Prometheus, Wrath, etc.) The concept of him being "the guardian of Gotham's criminal world" is pretty underexplored and really cool in a Moriarty kinda way. His mere existence pathologizes the villains of Gotham in a way that makes them worthy of *needing* a protector, even if he's totally inept at his job.

damn I wish they'd do a killer moth show like peacemaker

So, he's _literally_ the opposite of Batman: Villain, incompetent, not very scary or dangerous and disrespected by everyone. ...Wait, how the hell did he know that Batman was secretly a billionaire with a cave hideout? Was all that just a coincident?

@keklord4128

7 ай бұрын

He made it based of rumors he heard about batman, and later he was also the first supervillain to find out batmans identity... And immiedietly forget it tue to getting bonked on the head

Respect for using the Arkham Asylum render of him in the thumbnail. I think that’s the coolest looking Killer Moth design that still kinda has that neon palate.

Killer moth has inspired me to become a real life superhero. The world will know the name dreadmoth

My introduction to the character was in The Batman 2003 where he got introduced as one of the guys Penguin recruited to his squad of villains to pull off a heist (though it's openly established that the others don't take him seriously). During the heist, Killer Moth gets exposed to chemicals that mutate him into a giant moth creature which ironically makes him the most powerful villain in the group (which is saying something as Killer Croc was in the group as well). The episode ended with them all getting arrested and (from what I remember) this was his one and only appearance in the entire series. 😥

Genuinely haven’t seen him since Lego Batman. I do remember him looking pretty cool when I was little in the game.

One side note i find kinda interesting is his bio has him at the exact same height and weight as batman. So hes actually pretty physically imposing for a goof ball

“The Mega Weapon doesn't have the power to destroy, it only has the power to create!” - Lord Garmadon.

Let's be real here, he would immediately hit it off with Shocker if they ever met. Hell, they would probably be a pretty formidable crime duo.

Alright but the idea that this guy takes a bunch of the spoils from the criminals Batman defeats means he's actually one of the more effective not-super villains. The guy manages to get away with stolen money and nobody notices, because he's just in the background. (Also the city should be thankful, cleaning up the money that goes all over the place after some of these heists would drive someone to insanity)

Wait, how does he even know that Batman has a billionere playboy persona?

a man when I go to school and get made fun of or people don't talk to me I always watch you. you inspired me man everyday thank you mullet man.

His depiction in the Teen Titans cartoon as a father who spoils his bratty daughter while simultaneously wanting to wreak havoc on the world is just perfect. Lmao

I can imagine so many “i can fix him” fanfics about this guy

@PunchandJewelee90

4 ай бұрын

there’s not a “I can fix him” fanfic of him, but over on a website called flickr there’s a ongoing comic series called “moth stories” but a user literally named killer moth, it’s quite good. It also uses lego as photography for it

The problem is that killer moth seems to try way to hard ,it doesn't work like that it needs to come naturally otherwise it won't work.

The Mighty Monarch is like Killer Moth if KM was actually successful and the target of his ire was relatively incompetent instead of Batman.

@keklord4128

7 ай бұрын

The monarch is best part of venture bros tbh

You actually read my mind, I remembered him recently and wondered about him and I loved him in Lego Batman

Killer Moth feels like the Dr. Doofenshmirtz of Batman’s rogues! 😂😂😂😂

As a long time fan of the Kamen Rider series I've always been a fan of bug-themed heroes and villains. Killer moth has some truly great designs.

His design is pretty good in Teen Titans

new favorite villain unlocked

KILLER MOTH THE BEST

I accept the milk, because he likely wanted to poison it, but forgot to poison it before giving it to me.

I LOVE KILLERMOTH I’m so happy you made a video on him the comic where he finds happiness is one of the best

The MVP! (Magnificent Villain Persona)

"What's the point of living if you're never going to be happy?" I ask myself that question at least once or twice every single day. No answer forthcoming.

I really like the the Batman 2004 and Teen Titans version of him a lot

DC being fools for not releasing a Killermoth movie already.

His incarnation in teen titans (2003) was awesome

I personally really wish his Teen Titans Incarnation had become his official one because honestly, after Slade. Killer Moth is legitimately my favorite reoccurring villain of The Show. Hes legitimately awesome

Any villain that appeared in the Lego Batman game is a good villain in my book

Most relatable Batman villain

Killer moth is great! Loved him ever since I played lego batman, same as you!

Gon be honest with you guys I thought Killer Moth was one of Batman's worst enemies as a child because he was in Lego Batman

As the resident LEGO Killer moth expert, banger video man

Killer Moth is the perfect character to be a sort of MCU Vulture character. A Villain who takes the left over scraps and uses them to fuel his anti-batman deeds

I loved the part where he said It's Mothin time and started to moth the floor

I love to imagine, like, The Ventriloquist and Mad Hatter dumping on Killer Moth on the reg.

yes my boy is getting the respect he deserves

Funniest thing about Killer Moth thematically is bats eat moths.

Killer moth in teen titans will always be my favorite

I remember him from the first Lego Batman game.

I always got this guy confused with firefly lol

killer moth unironically has more personality and identity in lego batman 1 than any other dc property that has existed

I like the idea of Killer Moth being motivated by the fact everyone treats him as a loser. I think he'd be perfect for Matt Reeves' Batman sequel, as he could be shown to be treated as a joke, but goes much further and potentially get abilities like controlling bugs or something, and gets to the point where he becomes a threat, all because nobody respected him and that's all he wanted in life. To be remembered.

Okay, so Killer Moth technically never did turn back into a human. At the end of Underworld Unleashed, all of Neron's deals were supposed to be reversed as he was defeated, but for some reason they left Killer Moth as Charaxes. Eventually he was killed, along with many others, by Superboy Prime in Infinite Crisis. He was impersonated by Booster Gold for a bit, but only came back due to the New 52, where he got it real rough. At one point the Atom shrank down, went into Killer Moth's head, and grew inside his head just to torture the dude. It doesn't go away either, because he later shouts at Red Robin about the Atom and not wanting to be tortured again. It's awful. Edit: Misremembered my timeline, the torture happened pre-New 52 during Cry For Justice. I still hate that series.

@ulyssesveracruz8343

7 ай бұрын

Why did the atom went inside and tortured killer moth ?

@camerondodge2070

7 ай бұрын

​@@ulyssesveracruz8343 Okay, so I misremembered my issues, the torture was pre-New 52. It was in Cry For Justice, Prometheus had hired Killer Moth to kidnap someone close to one of Atom's allies, so both Ray Palmer and Ryan Choi went after Moth. Palmer then did the shrink and grow torture to get info about Prometheus out of Killer Moth.

@ulyssesveracruz8343

7 ай бұрын

@@camerondodge2070 and the what happened after with killer moth ?

@camerondodge2070

7 ай бұрын

@@ulyssesveracruz8343 After that they rebooted the universe before he had another appearance. At this point there's been three or four reboots since that comic, so I have no clue whether it's canon or not.

@ulyssesveracruz8343

7 ай бұрын

@@camerondodge2070 ok thanks

I remembered in The Batman cartoon he mutated into a giant moth and thought that was so cool and gross.

Finally some one makes a nice length video about killer moth.

THE GOAT. Honestly my favorite villain from DC.

I love Killer Moth, but I absolutely love The Clock king who is such an underrated villain is by design and he is a Green Arrow villain not Batman instead of a joke villain The Clock King could've been one of Green Arrows archenemies due to Green Arrow not having a lot of villains.

The greatest character ever created since Chicken Little

I’d give Killer Moth the praise he deserves if he ever got the chance (similar to how Spider-verse did with spot). Also I JUST realized that bro basically kinda knows who Batman is by having a “billionaire persona,” but never spilled the beans out to anyone

The original Anti Batman. Often imitated, never duplicated.

I'm still disappointed he wasn't a boss in the Arkham games.

Harley being a therapist is good.

I remember post-crisis there was an issue of Detective Comics (I think 566) where Batman briefs Jason Todd on all of the biggest threats in his rogues gallery. I was stunned seeing Killer Moth on the list. In 1986, Killer Moth was a significant Batman villain, when nowadays he’s barely mentioned.

That comic about killer moth accepting his place in life is genuinely heartwarming

I am just now realizing that the Monarch in Venture bros. is probably a killer moth reference

Killer Moth in the classic comics: 🔫🤡 Killer Moth in teen titans: 💀(👸🏼)

Killer Moth needs a redemption arc. Imagine how great it would be if he kept on sucking at being a villain and decided to try being a superhero instead. At first he'd be motivated for the wrong reasons like gaining popularity and feeling self-righteous, but as the story goes on he'd learn to become a hero for the right reasons. As he becomes more selfless and motivated to save people, he actually starts training seriously and becomes more competent. I don't think he should become a martial arts prodigy that can rival Batman or even Robin, but someone who could beat the average person in a fight. I think it would be really cool to see him going from fighting petty crooks to more serious villains and him getting in over his head. He could either continue training and become more competent at becoming a hero OR he could realize that there are other ways of helping people that don't involve masking up and fighting crime. Maybe he realizes that he's not cut out for fighting and realizes he's best suited for protecting and saving civilians in situations where heroes and villains are fighting and there is a lot of collateral damage. I think that would be a really cool way to innovate the character

Just imagine if he got The Spot treatment.

The Killer Moth version from Teen Titans animated show (not Teen Titans Go!) is actually pretty good and I would dare to say is the greatest version of Killer Moth of all. While he is still funny, he IS a real menace and a very powerful villain; he created his own army of giant mutant moths which are terrifying and he also wields an electric whip. Awesome! Additionally, in the comic book "Batman: My Own Worst Enemy" where Batman has to scold Two-Face to another city, they are attacked by the combined efforts of Firefly and Killer Moth. Although their fight was brief, it was so great to see both insect-themed villains working together. Also, their costumes on that comic where excellent.

I like that ending for Killer Moth, he finally understands his strengths and earns something. He’s not one of the greats but he’s happy.

He could actually be a Good Innocent Villain that Tried to be the Mothman!

I've always loved killer moths outfit, it's so ridiculous but it works so well

he’s such a cutie patootie why’d they make him a chump

I accept the Chocy Milk from Killer Moth.

That parasite story is beautiful and I'd absolutely love to see more of him, just a happy go lucky loser villain with bad luck who just tries his best to get by

Killer Moth is one of my favorite Batman villains. He’s relatable

My first introduction to Killer Moth was his Teen Titans version. He was legit threatening and was ready to unleash a horde of mutants on Jump City. And they still manage to make him funny by having him be a bumbling dad to his bratty teenage daughter Kitten