🎹Keyboard Stands: Which Type is Best For You?🎹
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X-Stand: 0:48
Z-Stand: 3:35
Table Top Stand: 6:06
Other Stands: 8:10
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🛒 CS67BK Black Stand for Casio PX160▸geni.us/Casio-CS67BK
🛒 Kawai HML-1 ES110 Digital Piano Stand▸geni.us/Kawai-HML-1
🛒 Kawai HM4 ES8 Designer Stand▸geni.us/Kawai-HM4
🛒 Roland KSC 72 for FP-60▸geni.us/Roland-KSC-72
🛒 Roland KSC 90 for FP-90▸geni.us/Roland-KSC-90
🛒 Roland KSC 70 for FP-30▸geni.us/Roland-KSC-70
🛒 Roland KSC FP10 for FP-10▸geni.us/Roland-KSC-FP10
🛒 K&M Stands Table-Style Keyboard Stand▸geni.us/KM-Stand
🛒 Roland KS-G8B Keyboard Stand▸geni.us/Roland-KS-G8B-Stand
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Digital Piano Stands - Overview and Recommendations
Introduction:
Digital stage / slab pianos are built to be portable - something light-weight enough that musicians can carry it for short distances, transport it in cars or public transit, or store it in small spaces like a closet, dorm-room, or a touring van. Manufacturers achieve the smaller footprint mostly by compressing the electronics and speakers (much like a laptop vs a desktop) and ridding it of it’s pedals and furniture.
Type 1: The “X” Stand
Profile KDS400 'X' Keyboard Stand ▸geni.us/KDS-400-Stand
This simple design gets its name from it’s design. There are two sets of 2 steel pipes each connected with a steel strut. There is a scissor-type folding action with a basic axel that connects the two sections; this design allows the stand to be collapsed completely flat, making it the lightest, easiest, lowest cost stand on the market. It also has the lowest weight rating and isn’t known for its durability.
When to use them:
Where portability or cost is the only consideration, and your piano weighs less than 40 lbs (ideally less than 30 lbs).
Type 2: The “Double X” Stand
SaveOnMany ® Double-Brace X Keyboard Stand ▸geni.us/SaveOnMany-Stand
AmazonBasics Heavy-Duty Adjustable Keyboard and Piano Stand ▸geni.usBasics-Stand
RockJam X-Frame Pre-Built Keyboard Stand ▸ geni.us/RockJam-X-Frame
This is an improvement on the first design, where the horizontal pipes that act as the feet and platform are braced with two sets of scissoring struts, instead of one set as with the first design.
When to use them:
Where portability and cost is top priority, and your instrument is somewhere between 40 - 70 lbs.
Type 3: The Z Stand
Roland KS-10Z ▸geni.us/Roland-KS10Z
Neewer® Heavy Duty Z-Style Stand ▸geni.us/Neewer-Z-Stand
On Stage KS7350 Heavy Duty Folding Z Keyboard Stand ▸geni.us/On-Stage-KS7350
The Z-stand is one of the best blends of portability and stability on the market. Several companies make the type with a few differences in how they collapse. But once fully deployed, they’re all virtually the same.
There are two steel ‘Z’s which sit parallel to each other, connected by two telescoping shafts, and the vertical part of the ‘Z’ also telescopes, giving the stand both height and width adjustment.
When to use them:
If you have the budget for a $100 - 150 stand, and it will be receiving frequent use and/or moves, this is an ideal option (with the collapsing arms). They’re rugged, stable, and can handle the most heavy and large of the keyboards out there. Hercules and Roland both make a great option.
When not to use them:
For super small keyboards in the 61 or 76 note range that are 20lbs or smaller, this would be overkill.
Type 4: The Folding Table Style Stand
I don’t actually know if the industry has a ‘name’ for this, but these types of stands look like those ubiquitous folding tables that you see at every wedding or event hall. The top of the table is rectangular, and two sets of legs swing down from hinges along the two short sides of the table.
Type 5: The “T” Stand
The final stand type is referred to as a T stand, since that’s precisely what it looks like when folded up. There are four articulating arms, all with a 90 degree elbow, which form the legs of the stand. They’re attached at either end of a central spine, and are highly flexible.
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Instead of trying to explain it making shapes with your fingers why don't you pull one out and show us?
@Yourenotreal7
Жыл бұрын
😂
@Salman-Q
6 ай бұрын
Or easier yet, less energy consuming method, just show a photo of one!
@raul0ca
3 ай бұрын
Retail charades
I use an ironing board. It works perfectly 😁
@-megawolf-805
2 жыл бұрын
Lol. The true X stand.
@asanchezpagan
2 жыл бұрын
You’re so funny…..
@karenjdavis8
Жыл бұрын
😂 Nice! Love it. Thank you! 😊
@avinatoora
Жыл бұрын
It won't work for pianos where speakers are at the bottom
@paulmcgrath2430
3 ай бұрын
Kinda have to use your imagination on this one! Looks like a sign language presentation……
U should hv shown pictures/footage of all stand that u were telling about.
@gak0090
4 жыл бұрын
Gurpreet Singh I was thinking the same exact thing!
@dichlosoftvideo
4 жыл бұрын
absolutely
@AntonioHernandez-zq5ej
3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@30smsuperstrat
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you I felt the same! Super annoying
Would it really have been that much trouble to actually SHOW a keyboard stand in an 11 minute video about keyboard stands??
Lots of informaron but no footage of the stands 🤦♂️ This is KZread, not Soundcloud.
I have a double X stand, I have a 2 tier and had a 3 tier for many years, these stands are rock solid and can hold 300 pounds.. Ultimate Support IQ 3000 are the stands I speak of, been using this brand for over 18 years.. My current setup is Fantom X8 bottom, Korg N 264 middle and OASYS 76 on top, second stand is Roland FA-08 bottom and Yamaha Modx7 on top.. These stands have memory lock for setting up the height and also stabilizing end caps for uneven surfaces.. I trust these stands with the heaviest of keyboards and have never let me down.. I do own a On-Stage "Z" stand and it is great, but takes too long to put together on a gig, I have also had the Ultimate Support Apex stand, 3 tier with the extended arms, this was a solid stand and set up was quick, and it too held some heavy gear. Roland RD250, Ensoniq, Korg etc. But my go to is the IQ3000... Hope this helps...
Great video, many thanks for taking the time to do this. I would have been great to see the photos (as B video) for each of the stands discussed.
This is so in depth and really amazing. Thanks for making this! I'm looking for my first keyboard and all your videos has been so informative and honest, really refreshing so keep it up!
Yes Stu. The double X is better (than single) for any weighted action dp. The difference is astonishing. The best ones have a snap-lock handle in the centre. The cheaper ones with just a few holes for adjustment are seldom convenient because they end up being too high or too low and spoil the performer/student's posture. I saw you demonstrate a Casio in a recent video about pianos under US $1,000 . It was on a single X stand, and it bounced so much that it was a bad ad for portable pianos. BTW I like your jazz playing very much, though its sophistication might be over the heads of beginners. Perhaps intimidating? Even so, these are great reviews/presentations and are a credit to your company. And thanks for being concise. There's almost no waffle or repetition in your presentation. Other channels could learn from this.
@tim8767
Жыл бұрын
Twice as good.
Such a good video, thank you. I started learning just over a year ago. I bought a Casio digital piano and bought the stand that was sitting next to it in the shop. For the first few months it was perfect, but I noticed as soon as I wanted to play faster with more downward motions it completely died on me, collapsing half way through practice. It's interesting that no one really gives much impotence to the frame that's supporting you big investment. Great video 😊😊😊🎼
@MerriamPianos
Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome! Thank you so much for taking the time to check out our channel! We appreciate it. :) It is definitely a good point that many people consider the stand or frame to be a bit of an afterthought, but it is important detail to consider for a number of reasons. In addition to protecting your expensive investment, in some cases, it is also important to ensure that it is providing the desired adjustability or height to make your playing experience as comfortable and natural as possible.
This is the information I needed. Thanks
@MerriamPianos
4 ай бұрын
You're welcome! :)
A very interesting video as always !
Hi Stu, absolutely LOVE your videos! :-) Could you please do a shootout video of Roland KS-G8B vs Stay Music Piano 700/01 with respect to using a heavy stage piano (like the MP 11 SE)?
Between the Z-stands and the column stands, which has offered you greater stability and minimal set up time? I don’t see how the Z-stand would be more efficient than a column stand, but I also do not see how column stands would be as stable as a Z-stand. What have you noticed as the greatest drawback to your respective stands?
Very helpful!
So long story short, x stands are fucking awful, and z stands are amazing
Nice descriptions. If you ever re-do this, maybe add clips of you sitting at each type of stand. My question is how much legroom does a Z stand really gives the player. I still don't have a feel for that after watching your video. - Thanks.
@MerriamPianos
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! Thanks for the suggestion! We will definitely try to capture set up and tear down as well as shots of the leg room next time this topic is covered. All the best! :)
I bought the Alesis recital pro and it doesn't have the holes as the other pianos, so I think I gonna buy the z-stand
Today I learned that Canadians say "zed".
@GabTheAce
4 жыл бұрын
Zete
@AnkurBorwankar
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the entire civilised world says "zed".
@benbowland
3 жыл бұрын
@@AnkurBorwankar Pretty much the entire civilized world doesn't speak English lmao--and if they do, they should say "zee" and not "zed". Zee is a letter name and Zed sounds like the name of a science fiction character.
@JohnDonasco
3 жыл бұрын
@@AnkurBorwankar how do you sing the ABC song? W X Y Zed? - from a genuinely curious Asian who pronounces Z as Zee or Zay
@AnkurBorwankar
3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDonasco "W Z Y and zed", yes.
can you connect your microphone to the Z stand?
My piano stand makes a creaking sound, is this likely to be because it can't hold the weight of the piano?
Possible to find a Z stand with 3 tiers ?
Hello sir :) Is there any difference between KSC-70 stand and CS-44p stand. Can I use CS-44p stand for Roland FP10 piano.? Plz answer sir..
@ioannismavrogiannis151
3 жыл бұрын
Hello!! I'm also looking forward to buying a roland f10... How is your experience? Also, did you choose a stand in the end?
I have the easy way to set up. Use double x stand for CP300 Yamaha (71.10 lbs) , place 2 6inch plumbing couplers on the flat part and put QS7 Alesis synth (under 35lbs), on top. The keyboards do not move. Set up is fast. Double X is rated for heavy, and it delivers. Had it for 20 years.
@MerriamPianos
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip Gary! Much appreciated. :)
Hello sir :) I'm looking for a digital piano for practising piano at home and using as a basic midi controller. I was looking at the mp11se, however because I'm clueless I didn't realise it doesn't come with speakers, so i'd need to buy speakers, an amp, the piano itself etc. I now know that it's due to the fact it's a stage piano, which generally don't come with built in speakers due to quality/weight etc. however in terms of action, quality, functions it seems to be pretty close to what I'm looking for... I'm looking for a digital piano with the highest quality action, and realism, that I can use for practice in my room. I'm looking for something that's pretty basic however high quality. My main necessities are that I can use with headphones, which also comes with built in speakers incase my family wants to hear. Also with MIDI capability so I can mess around in logic and make stuff up for a bit of fun. Also am interested in playing around with a VST. Mainly I want the best action, built in speakers, and midi capability. Price range anything within £2000. I wont need it to be transportable etc. as it'll stay in my room. I liked the look of the mp11se, the only problem is that I don't have speakers or an amp and so it's all going to be about £2500 + (all together) at least. I'd like something similar to the MP11se but less features however with built in speakers basically.
@Boaz2108
4 жыл бұрын
Have you made a choice yet? I cam recommend the Yamaha P515, Roland FP90 and Kawai ES8
Did you know that on Google you can find images of these stands? What’s crazy is you can download them, and then add them as media files into your video editor! Can you imagine that?! Being able to show your viewers images of the things you’re trying to describe? Whoa.
@MerriamPianos
Жыл бұрын
Hi there! We appreciate the feedback and will certainly showcase the way the various stands look in future videos covering this topic. Thanks for taking the time to tune in!
@No-qe6qi
Жыл бұрын
It is possible to give constructive criticism without being condescending. There is no need to be negative
I got the wrong stand- heavy duty X. I tried putting pressire on it to make sure it was secure. Put my new RD 88 on it and it collapsed. I want to send it back and get Roland recommended RS 13. I hope my stage piano is okay. Fortunately it was less than 3 feet from the carpet. Lousy X stand. I should have researched them first and watched your video. Thanks for the information. I googled Zed stand and nothing returned. Are you talking about the stand that looks like a Z?
@MerriamPianos
Ай бұрын
I'm so sorry to hear that your X-stand collapsed. I hope your RD88 is okay! A Z-style stand like the Profile KDS450MA (which they refer to as an M-style stand) would be a good bet in my opinion. It is far more robust, stable, and adjustable. :)
Any recommendations for a Z stand for Roland RD88? Its profile is different with the slim depth and larger width. Is there a stand that accommodates this better than others?
@MerriamPianos
6 ай бұрын
Hi! Brent here! The Profile KDS450MA is a very sturdy and affordable option. We use these at our showrooms frequently. :)
@timkolekmusic
6 ай бұрын
@@MerriamPianos thank you!
About X-Stand: is it better to have the stand deep bigger or shorter then the piano? For exemple if the piano is 28cm deep: better a x-stand deeper or not?
@MerriamPianos
11 ай бұрын
It depends on other aspects of the stand's designs. You want the piano's base to be in contact with the rubber stoppers on the end of each arm of the stand. That will ensure optimal stability and avoid the piano slipping/falling off the stand.
I'm just starting to learn piano, and I was desperately looking for a Z-stand because of leg room. My keyboard is only 61 keys so, according to the description on the video, seems that I don't need it 😔
@MerriamPianos
3 ай бұрын
The Z-stands definitely help provide more leg room. With that said, whether you can use it with your 61 key instrument comes down to the width of your keyboard and the minimum width setting available on the stand.
Would it be possible to use ikea table legs? (i.e. the hilver)
@MerriamPianos
Жыл бұрын
You could use a table depending on its size/sturdiness as well as the size of the piano you are looking to support. Many music producers have a digital piano or MIDI controller in front of them on their desk for easy access while they're working.
I was looking at this stand for the Roland FP-E350 Also Roland has the double X, but I think I ruled that out based on the weight of the keyboard at 47 pounds Thought?
@MerriamPianos
9 ай бұрын
Hi! Brent here! While a double-braced X-stand could do the job, I usually recommend Z-style keyboard stands once you start getting into the 35+ lbs category. The Z-style stands are super sturdy, but also have a lot of adjustment in either direction. :)
@debbielosee5330
9 ай бұрын
@@MerriamPianos thank you! I was looking at K&M Konig & Meyer 18820.019.55 Omega Pro Keyboard Table-Style Stand, but for $320, I think it’s too much for sitting in my room. I like that it folds, but between buying the keyboard, pedal, gig bag (not to perform, but to create music with a friend and may bring my keyboard, I think I will go with the Liquid Stands Keyboard Stand w/ Wheels - Z Style Adjustable & Portable Professional Heavy Duty Digital Piano Stand with wheels for $80. Have you heard of these stands? Thoughts? Lastly have you made a video review on gig bags? Thanks so much for your help!
Im always curious about how legs fit with the X stands?
@MerriamPianos
11 ай бұрын
Depending on the length of your legs and the height setting of the stand, it can sometimes be a bit of a pain. The Z-style stands are generally a bit more maneuverable and easier to get comfortable in my experiences if playing while sitting. :)
Where’s the Millenium Ks-1001?
I took a shot everytime he said ZED STAND and now I'm dead of liver failure.
@MerriamPianos
9 ай бұрын
Sounds like one heckuva drinking game! ;)
Would love a few pictures or examples
@MerriamPianos
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! We will definitely feature more pictures and shots of the stands in future videos. :)
Although table top stands can be annoying to set up, depending on the design. They are age way to go if you are a seated digital piano player.
@teddydavid2816
2 жыл бұрын
Why is it hard to set up, looks like you unfold the legs and put your piano on it?
@zivkovicable
2 жыл бұрын
@@teddydavid2816 I'm not saying it's rocket science hard, it'd just a little more effort than an x -frame.
@teddydavid2816
2 жыл бұрын
@@zivkovicable ah OK good that's what I figured they're both easy with the X being easier but less stable and no leg room.
@zivkovicable
2 жыл бұрын
@@teddydavid2816 Exactly. If i'm paying in seated position, the x-frame tends to get in the way of sustain pedalling & i keep banging my shins against it.
@teddydavid2816
2 жыл бұрын
@@zivkovicable yea my man I hear you I ordered a foldable table style off of ebay earlier today.. looks like a winner and only like 60 bucks so we'll see 👀
"I HATE THESE STANDS" was not expecting that lol
why are we watching a guy make finger gestures and say 'you know you know', when you're in a shop with a video camera and could be showing us real stands instead of finger puppet versions of stands...*sigh..
I bought "K&M Stands Table-Style Keyboard Stand" - very stable and good looking and it fits for Roland FP-90. - 2020051210
@Jenairaslebol27merde
4 жыл бұрын
yes, they are excellent. well-manufactured, super compact when folded, and REALLY stable (da wackelt auch mit nem schweren stagepiano echt gar nix). legroom is obviously the best you can have, allowing for unconstrained positioning of your pedals / foot controllers. they also offer possibilities to add extensions for a second and even a third keyboard and more. prince range is something around 120..150 bucks, and definitely worth the money. the simple x-stands are great if you want to quickly put up a stand for a light ("plastic") keyboard with no heavy playing or so. but not the thing you want to lay your stage piano onto, as said in the video. the A-stands (or similar shelf-style stands) like the ones from jaspers are great to store your synthesizer collection, they can take up to 5 or 6 keyboards. but keep in mind, when the stand is so packed, playing and operating your keyboards can get a bit inconvenient.
@parikjan
4 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking of getting the FP90 with the “K&M 18810 Omega Table Stand”... hope it will be sturdy
@gustavopaulette3496
2 жыл бұрын
@parikjan did you get it ? How was it? What did you get? I’m ordering now
I like to adjust the height of my digital piano frequently. My digital piano is pretty heavy. Does anyone have advice on adjustable stands? Electric would be the best. I'm surprised these don't exist yet! :) Thanks for the video!
@gingercarper5073
2 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem.
@gustavopaulette3496
2 жыл бұрын
Create one then clown 🤡
That's amazing! Stu has an american type accept ----- but he says 'zed' --- instead of 'zee'!
@MerriamPianos
2 жыл бұрын
Greeting from Canada eh! ;)
@southpark4151
2 жыл бұрын
@@MerriamPianos Thanks!!!!! Oh! Canada! (not the anthem!). Makes sense now! Greetings from Australia. Excellent stand review. Thanks again!
This guy is gold.
O, Canada. You and your zed stands...
@alek6208
2 жыл бұрын
O, America can’t afford good teachers.
For goodness sake - SHOW the things!
It's amazing that he's in a music shop yet he has no stands to show.
@MerriamPianos
8 ай бұрын
The pianos are on stands of course, but we certainly have taken the feedback to heart. We will be sure to feature more images and videos of the assembly/disassembly of the various stand models when we tackle an update to this video. :)
0:37 What song is this?
@MerriamPianos
Жыл бұрын
I am not entirely sure to be honest! I would have to check with Stu as to what that piece is. Thanks so much for taking the time to tune in! :)
bless! thank you I hate X stands so much
Sorry but you don't talk about the best perfect stand ever, the K&M SPIDER PRO. Leg room, pedal room, stability, great look, modularity (mic, computer) It is like an Ultimate but without the cons.
@MerriamPianos
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the suggestion! Perhaps, we will have to cover that in our next video on keyboard stands. ;)
Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead :-)
Thanks, but Why not show us the stands since you work in a piano store?
@MerriamPianos
Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome! We will certainly be following up this preliminary overview with a more detailed review of specific models down the road and will be sure to include shots of the actual stands. Thanks so much and all the best! :)
Kinda have to use your imagination on this one! I don’t do well with “sign language”
@MerriamPianos
3 ай бұрын
We will certainly feature shots of the stands more in a follow-up video discussing benches. Thanks for tuning in! :)
Roland fp-10 vs alesis recital pro
Apparently in Canada they have never heard the phrase that a picture is worth a thousand words. It's at least worth more than two hands flailing around to describe shapes. Since you seem to sell such stand items, it is hard to understand why you didn't use some for props. Now, DO THE VIDEO OVER AND DO IT RIGHT THIS TIME :)
@attilakovacs5803
2 жыл бұрын
Why don't you make us a video that you like?
Amazing 11 minutes about reviewing a keyboard stand and not ONE was displayed, unlike some of you on here newbiews like me have never ever seen one, us eone or touched - just photos.
They're very inexpensive but they're cheap. Who woulda thunk it?
@MerriamPianos
4 ай бұрын
Some of the stands are inexpensive but extremely sturdy/solid. Models like the KDS450MA by Profile for instance.
@anonymike8280
4 ай бұрын
@@MerriamPianos I ended up ordering a Liquid Stands Z stand. The price was economical and every buyer who wrote a review gave it a good review. That compares to X stands, where every model got bad reviews from some of the buyers. My approach is, acquire things only as they are needed and buy at the top of your price point, not the bottom or even the middle.
Wish you had shown demo's of these stands
@MerriamPianos
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! Next time we tackle the topic of stands, we will certainly include some visual demonstrations of them.
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@MerriamPianos
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! :)
I hate x-stands, you bash your knees if you sit.
Though I know from your other videos that you are not, you sounded like a rank amateur on this video. You didn’t know the names of the types of stands or the nomenclature of the stands. You didn’t mention several categories of stands that are getting more and more popular (Like the GIBRALTAR GKS-KT76 KEY TREE stand, the table type K&M 18820 OMEGA PRO KEYBOARD STAND, and the large platform stands made for heavy keyboards like the ROLAND KS-G8B KEYBOARD STAND and YAMAHA L-7B KEYBOARD STAND) It was like you didn’t do any research and just decided to “wing it”. This video was definitely not up to your usual standards.