First time I'll disagree with you on the gun review. I use the RDB20 in Canada for 3-gun competitions, and train with it twice a month on the weekends (lots of mag dumps), and I use the same handguard you have there. It definitely gets hot, and yes I know you're talking about the 2 retaining pins near the safety lever and along the front handguard, but after the one initial "Ow that's hot" - it's easy to just.... not do that again. As firearms enthusiasts, we learn pretty early on not to touch the barrel of a rifle after use, and adding 2 additional pin areas to the list of no-no areas is not a deal breaker in my opinion. I've also never gotten burned by hot brass coming out the ejection port, but I have found lots of brass (20+ casings) in my cargo pants pocket one time when I didn't button down the flap. The downward ejection makes it so much easier to clean up the range afterwards. I've got 3500-3800 rounds through my RDB, and I clean it every 500-600 rounds. The only failures I ever had was in the first 10 rounds, when I was adjusting the gas block. That gas block adjustability is why it also functions much more reliably than a Keltec SU16. I did buy a couple of spare firing pins because I read that they have a tendency to break, but I haven't had any issues with that. I shoot surplus 5.56 and match ammo, and can hold 2.5 MOA and 1.5 MOA respectively all day long. The trigger is as crisp as my AR15 safe queen. The balance is fantastic (I haven't tried an LPVO, just a dot + magnifier so I can't comment on LPVOs), and I can shoot it from the shoulder with one hand and not feel any fatigue for a long time. The 2nd place winner at the IPSC International Rifle competition in 2019 used an RDB, in a field of 175+ international competitors who were all using AR15s. My only recommendation is that if you do review a rifle, you won't do it justice if it's a gun whose history you don't know. It sounds like you are basing your whole feedback on a rifle that may have been abused or improperly maintained, and it's concerning that you're a third-hand user of it, with no idea how it was initially used or how many rounds it has already seen. I'm still a big fan of your reviews though. We can agree to disagree on it - I'll edit my comment if or when I run into any issues with my RDB, but for now, it's my main competition rifle and hasn't let me down against other competitors with Bren 2s, Ravens, B&Ts and X95s. In my opinion, it's one of the most underrated rifles available to us Canadians.
@bats8888
2 ай бұрын
We will certainly agree to disagree. My main qualms with the rifle are not the reliability, that's why it was not the main focus of the review. All the other problems I had were. If you use it thoroughly and have no problems, that's fantastic! There's no such thing as a rifle that suits everyone. If you watched long enough there was bound to be a review you didn't agree with :)
@icutoffmyleftwing7190
29 күн бұрын
Also a Canadian. Also have a similar set up. Similar. I find it to be the best for transitioning around my range. The best ambi rifle I have currently. Ambi is a deal breaker for me. If I can't shoot both shoulders with a cheek weld I don't want it. Also, I have a raven, siberian and wk 180. I wouldn't give you 10 cents for a truck load of wk180s. Trash. The bcl isn't that bad, it has some issues that need to be sorted out from a manufacturing standpoint. They're great to deal with. Love them. Don't love the semi autos yet but I will. My mrx bison and trx howitzer are pretty nice. The cz trail or scout whatever is a bit more refined because it's cz. These are cheap guns. I mean cheap. All of my cope rifles added up don't equal one of my cadex rifles. I dunno. They're toys and some people take this too seriously. If youre spending less than 3 grand and relying on it...well. that's not the rifles fault. It's like buying a used k car and hoping it will keep up to the corvettes. The boomer came out there.
@Jasonz19192 ай бұрын
Had mine for 6 years now and it's actually still holding up. But my x95 is still my go to
@3DVIDEOSMurray2 ай бұрын
Ill be VERY interested to hear your thoughts on the ASR.
@Stahlbrand2 ай бұрын
I bought one on a whim on a Saturday, several weeks ago, cancelled it on Sunday's sober second thought. I wasn't sure if I wanted to take the chance on keltec and further oic etc. I wanted a centrefire, but I guess I should look to the Raven.
@thomasmikes93292 ай бұрын
Hey bats do you know if the sks adapter will let you use normal ar 15 7.62x39 mags in the gun if u have the adapter?
@bats8888
2 ай бұрын
Yes, there is an adapter that allows you to do exactly that.
@mitchlehmann92922 ай бұрын
was looking at 300 dollar red dots last night for my own keltec, an su16, when i stumbled across an old reddit post you made saying youve had a feyachi on all these guns you've put thousands of rounds through between all of them. so i ordered one on amazon. and here we are the next day and you post a vid of a keltec with a feyachi on it. funny coincidence.
@bats8888
2 ай бұрын
I hope it works well for you. I've run thousands of rounds of 7.62x39, .223, and 9mm across 3 optics and they've all been great. But who knows, maybe I won the cheap red dot lottery. If it doesn't work out, amazon's got great return policies lol.
@rcgrizzly94Ай бұрын
These things sell for around $700 here in Ky...its definitely budget
@SplashingMANGO2 ай бұрын
Most everything you covered in this video isn't make or break so long as you can adapt your manual of arms, but the downward ejection is kind of a deal breaker, for me personally. Sure, a truly ambi bullpup is a nice idea in principle, but in practice that's going to be nothing short of a bitch and a half if you wanna do any sort of competitive shooting, tactical shooting, malfunction drills, or larping. I know, I know, these are all things that can be worked around. After all, there are some really high speed units out there that loved the P90 but the last thing I personally wanna worry about in the middle of shooting a match or having fun in the woods with the boys is having to take a knee and flip my rifle upside down whenever I have a stoppage.
@julesbeaume1429Ай бұрын
Idk man, I feel like most of the complain you've had are mainly comfort issues. Wearing gloves, adjusting grip, and buying 1 or 2 extra spare firing pins (for 10$ each) would fix 90% of your complains, and saying that it's as reliable as the wk180 or the siberian is just wrong. Great video none the less
@obinnannanna6822 ай бұрын
As someone in Canada, who owned one before, save up and buy an X95.
@spashiron
2 ай бұрын
why is that
@Dingleberry345
Ай бұрын
@@spashirongenerally speaking Kel-Tec makes cheap quality stuff but unfortunately in Canada it’s expensive pricing
@worstcase5192 ай бұрын
KelTec is just one of those brands that you try once at the range because your buddy brought it and asked "hey you wanna shoot it?" Then on the ride home you think to yourself "yeah thats why I dont own a KelTec"
@jennilala32 ай бұрын
Well, this review didn't change my mine on my distaste of bullpups. LOL
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First time I'll disagree with you on the gun review. I use the RDB20 in Canada for 3-gun competitions, and train with it twice a month on the weekends (lots of mag dumps), and I use the same handguard you have there. It definitely gets hot, and yes I know you're talking about the 2 retaining pins near the safety lever and along the front handguard, but after the one initial "Ow that's hot" - it's easy to just.... not do that again. As firearms enthusiasts, we learn pretty early on not to touch the barrel of a rifle after use, and adding 2 additional pin areas to the list of no-no areas is not a deal breaker in my opinion. I've also never gotten burned by hot brass coming out the ejection port, but I have found lots of brass (20+ casings) in my cargo pants pocket one time when I didn't button down the flap. The downward ejection makes it so much easier to clean up the range afterwards. I've got 3500-3800 rounds through my RDB, and I clean it every 500-600 rounds. The only failures I ever had was in the first 10 rounds, when I was adjusting the gas block. That gas block adjustability is why it also functions much more reliably than a Keltec SU16. I did buy a couple of spare firing pins because I read that they have a tendency to break, but I haven't had any issues with that. I shoot surplus 5.56 and match ammo, and can hold 2.5 MOA and 1.5 MOA respectively all day long. The trigger is as crisp as my AR15 safe queen. The balance is fantastic (I haven't tried an LPVO, just a dot + magnifier so I can't comment on LPVOs), and I can shoot it from the shoulder with one hand and not feel any fatigue for a long time. The 2nd place winner at the IPSC International Rifle competition in 2019 used an RDB, in a field of 175+ international competitors who were all using AR15s. My only recommendation is that if you do review a rifle, you won't do it justice if it's a gun whose history you don't know. It sounds like you are basing your whole feedback on a rifle that may have been abused or improperly maintained, and it's concerning that you're a third-hand user of it, with no idea how it was initially used or how many rounds it has already seen. I'm still a big fan of your reviews though. We can agree to disagree on it - I'll edit my comment if or when I run into any issues with my RDB, but for now, it's my main competition rifle and hasn't let me down against other competitors with Bren 2s, Ravens, B&Ts and X95s. In my opinion, it's one of the most underrated rifles available to us Canadians.
@bats8888
2 ай бұрын
We will certainly agree to disagree. My main qualms with the rifle are not the reliability, that's why it was not the main focus of the review. All the other problems I had were. If you use it thoroughly and have no problems, that's fantastic! There's no such thing as a rifle that suits everyone. If you watched long enough there was bound to be a review you didn't agree with :)
@icutoffmyleftwing7190
29 күн бұрын
Also a Canadian. Also have a similar set up. Similar. I find it to be the best for transitioning around my range. The best ambi rifle I have currently. Ambi is a deal breaker for me. If I can't shoot both shoulders with a cheek weld I don't want it. Also, I have a raven, siberian and wk 180. I wouldn't give you 10 cents for a truck load of wk180s. Trash. The bcl isn't that bad, it has some issues that need to be sorted out from a manufacturing standpoint. They're great to deal with. Love them. Don't love the semi autos yet but I will. My mrx bison and trx howitzer are pretty nice. The cz trail or scout whatever is a bit more refined because it's cz. These are cheap guns. I mean cheap. All of my cope rifles added up don't equal one of my cadex rifles. I dunno. They're toys and some people take this too seriously. If youre spending less than 3 grand and relying on it...well. that's not the rifles fault. It's like buying a used k car and hoping it will keep up to the corvettes. The boomer came out there.
Had mine for 6 years now and it's actually still holding up. But my x95 is still my go to
Ill be VERY interested to hear your thoughts on the ASR.
I bought one on a whim on a Saturday, several weeks ago, cancelled it on Sunday's sober second thought. I wasn't sure if I wanted to take the chance on keltec and further oic etc. I wanted a centrefire, but I guess I should look to the Raven.
Hey bats do you know if the sks adapter will let you use normal ar 15 7.62x39 mags in the gun if u have the adapter?
@bats8888
2 ай бұрын
Yes, there is an adapter that allows you to do exactly that.
was looking at 300 dollar red dots last night for my own keltec, an su16, when i stumbled across an old reddit post you made saying youve had a feyachi on all these guns you've put thousands of rounds through between all of them. so i ordered one on amazon. and here we are the next day and you post a vid of a keltec with a feyachi on it. funny coincidence.
@bats8888
2 ай бұрын
I hope it works well for you. I've run thousands of rounds of 7.62x39, .223, and 9mm across 3 optics and they've all been great. But who knows, maybe I won the cheap red dot lottery. If it doesn't work out, amazon's got great return policies lol.
These things sell for around $700 here in Ky...its definitely budget
Most everything you covered in this video isn't make or break so long as you can adapt your manual of arms, but the downward ejection is kind of a deal breaker, for me personally. Sure, a truly ambi bullpup is a nice idea in principle, but in practice that's going to be nothing short of a bitch and a half if you wanna do any sort of competitive shooting, tactical shooting, malfunction drills, or larping. I know, I know, these are all things that can be worked around. After all, there are some really high speed units out there that loved the P90 but the last thing I personally wanna worry about in the middle of shooting a match or having fun in the woods with the boys is having to take a knee and flip my rifle upside down whenever I have a stoppage.
Idk man, I feel like most of the complain you've had are mainly comfort issues. Wearing gloves, adjusting grip, and buying 1 or 2 extra spare firing pins (for 10$ each) would fix 90% of your complains, and saying that it's as reliable as the wk180 or the siberian is just wrong. Great video none the less
As someone in Canada, who owned one before, save up and buy an X95.
@spashiron
2 ай бұрын
why is that
@Dingleberry345
Ай бұрын
@@spashirongenerally speaking Kel-Tec makes cheap quality stuff but unfortunately in Canada it’s expensive pricing
KelTec is just one of those brands that you try once at the range because your buddy brought it and asked "hey you wanna shoot it?" Then on the ride home you think to yourself "yeah thats why I dont own a KelTec"
Well, this review didn't change my mine on my distaste of bullpups. LOL