Great review Mark. The Keith set is quite impressive, lots of thought and engineering. I was impressed with the pressure relief hole in the lid, and the way the lid locks. I use a Nalgene lexan bottle with a 750 ml Toaks Titanium cup with bail and lid. Quite happy with this setup.

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

The setup you are using is very functional and about the same weight as this set, but much less expensive. Thanks for commenting

@billsimpson1876

2 жыл бұрын

Try a good ol' Gatorade bottle. Same capacity as the Nalgene, but lighter (and cheap!).

@Olyphoto7

2 жыл бұрын

@@billsimpson1876 back in the day we would bring a couple of Gatoraide bottles for the hike in and use the empties for the rest of the trip. Everything was second hand.

@brianbartulis9709

2 жыл бұрын

I picked out that 750ml Toaks as well. For fact that it fits in the Firebox 5" boil plate hole, as well as the bail option. Nice piece of kit at I thought a decent price...nesting a Trangia/folding Ti spoon and a fork. ...paper towel for rattle.

@Trains-With-Shane

3 ай бұрын

+1 for the Toaks 750ml pot and i've also got a Nalgene bottle although I have misplaced the darn thing! lol. Think i'll probably get a Keith set but would go with the canteen rather than the round bottle.

Another Great Combo Set, Can't Wait For Part-3 Thanks For This, Mark. Have A Swell Weekend ! ATB T God Bless

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Terry. You as well

Great video! Thank you!

@MarkYoungBushcraft

Жыл бұрын

Most welcome. Thanks for commenting

LOVE the precision and forensic detail you show in your videos Mark . To address your minor concerns with some dexterity its possible to carefully file a gap to permit the lid triangle to engage thus allowing to to remain upright during use . By bending a pipe cleaner on the contours of the bottle opening it would then possible to modify the fish hook theory to a precise fit.lastly another minor gripe being the lack of a small hole in the sleeve, again easily remediated by a small circle of super glue on the bottom then it is fine to make a hole in the material without fear of fraying alternatlively glue a small washer on the bottom the make the hole . . Given your video will most probably be scrutinised by KEITH I fully expect them to address these concerns in future manufacturing. batches

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Great suggestions. In fact, Keith has already commented to me that they have passed on my comments to their engineers. Good to know they listen and respond. Thanks for commenting

That’s funny Mark I have the exact same Nalgene bottle, GSI cup and the self-reliance outfitters lid to match . And you’re right, it is very strong. I’ve dropped it when it’s full of water and it barely dented it… I’d really be interested in seeing how the titanium one would do when dropped (full of water) on rocks?! Maybe Keith can send you a spare one to try that out with! Thanks again for the thorough review. Can’t wait to see part three…. I’ve always wondered why someone would choose a canteen set up over a traditional bottle and cup set up.

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

I have accidently dropped this bottle but only half full. No dents but it likely landed just right. Thanks for commenting

1) I have the smaller version of Keith Bottle w/Canteen cup. (2 in fact). One has been my primary water bottle for the past 5 years and the only thing I plan on replacing it with is the larger version which you have shown here. 2) With some time ( & patience) you can stretch the “shroud” (carrier) to fit both; canteen & bottle. Removing quickly proved challenging so I did not leave it, but it can be done with effort. I agree with you that Keith would serve themselves, and their customers well to redesign the bottle carrier to fit both as well as provide a pocket to insert their spork into. As you mentioned in your previous video, this isn’t really a deal breaker for me either because I don’t carry my cook set around with me separately. I sling the water bottle around me daily though, and I too created a small cook set/survival kit for day hiking surrounding the canteen kit. I have purchased many Keith products (2 bottles, canteen cup, bowls, skillet, lunch kit, sporks, cutlery set, flask, & a plate) and I have no intentions of buying any other brand due to the quality control aspects of Keith products versus the other brands. Keith’s products are superb IMO. Keith also has a lifetime warranty and each piece is serialized (under the Keith logo on each piece) for their quality control and tracking of purchase. I don’t believe that any other brand has such a strong attention to detail as that. Good review.

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enoyed the video. I agree, Keith is the best at making titanium products. Worth the difference in price. Thanks for commenting

Another great video. Keep em coming.

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Good review Mark , thanks for sharing , God bless !

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Most welcome. Thanks for commenting

Great comparison/contrast review Mark! I definitely prefer the cylindrical water bottles. Thanks for posting!

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

I find I am carrying this set more than any other. Thanks for commenting

I agree the weight savings is not worth the cost. I picked up the Outbound 750 and 1000 ml single wall stainless steel bottles on sale a few years ago for $2.99 & $4.99 Canadian. They serve me perfectly, they have plastic lids but I take them off when heating anyway. My cup is a 750 ml from Walmart, I picked up in the states a few years ago as well. I can fit a bandana around the bottle and carry them both in a Rothco pouch from a Surplus store. Cheers Mark!

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Great setup. Money saved to spend on other things😅. Thanks for commenting

Good Information Sir

@MarkYoungBushcraft

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful. Thanks for commenting

By chance, I have the mug, but I'm only buying the ONE titanium canteen! 😁 I'm glad I got the right one (the Keith GI Canteen Set), I don't like that lid, and that case would drive me crazy! I have a similar set-up to your alternative, and keep my water-filter in the front pocket. Great review, as always, Mark 👍

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Can't go wrong with the GI set. Thanks for commenting

Mark, I'm a Stainless Steel type of Guy. I bought Titanium cups from $60 to $80. I only boilled water for a tea on an Alcohol Stove. They all warped on me. Since then, Stainless is the only way for me. Never again a Titanium. Thanks

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Wow. I have not had that experience. I use my titanium over fires, gas and alcohol without issue. I can say my cheaper titanium will dent easy if I drop it. Thanks for commenting

@nickcasolino8903

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Snow peak and Evernew Cups/ Bought them 10 yrs ago. Since then, I have been using GSI cups and Pathfinders stainless steel cups. Did they improve the quality of Titanium gears today? I don't know. But for me, I own only Stainless steel gears. Thanks

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting

@magicworldbyjorg

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thank you very mutch... have a nice Weekend.... see you….

Good review Mark! I have 2 of the Self Reliance Outfitters titanium bottles ($100.00USD), the capacity is 35.5oz. but the capacity of Keith bottle is greater at 40.5oz. and costs $95.00USD And as further comparison, the Vargo titanium bottle capacity is 34oz and costs $150.00USD.

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the information. Makes the Keith a better deal all round

for the ring on the lid of the mug, i took a file and took about an 16th of an inch off of one side of the top of the metal that holds the ring on the lid to make that slot that lets it stand up

@MarkYoungBushcraft

Жыл бұрын

Yes, good suggestion. I likely will do that. Just wanted to make a point to Keith that they could do it when produced. Thanks for commenting

G'day Mark, like that the lid on the Keith bottle is Ti too and being bayonet, a quick twist is less hassle than a thread, just needs some sort of stop pin/tab. I am very surprised the pouch doesn't cater for the mug and it's lid, defeats whole the purpose of a nesting set. I'm also surprised how much lighter the Ti is; at around 50%, that is significant. In fairness to SS, the overall percentage difference drops proportionally the more full the bottle is. Look forward to the next one mate. Cheers Duke.

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Duke. I do like the bayonet mount. I just wanted to let people know about the overtightening issue. Good news is I heard from Keith and they are passing my comments on to their engineers. Thanks for commenting

Vargo Bot has a very good Ti bottle (w/ butterfly handles, too).

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I like the look of that as well. Must see if I can get one. Thanks for commenting

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@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting

Thanks, Mark for the good and honest review. Weight saving is good but saving money is important too. I am not really an ultralight backpacker but I appreciate the lightness of titanium product. So funding the balance is up to me? I agree. How about another comparison video? Pathfinder has come out with their titanium set for sometime now. Why not compare the two?

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Would love to do that comparison. Wonder if Dave would send it to me. Thanks for commenting

@darthkek1953

2 жыл бұрын

Thing about Titanium is if you buy right you buy once and cry once, but then you have something that'll last a lifetime of camping. It's not an ideal material for "collector" campers, but I got my Evernew Solo set (and their stove) years ago, a horrible amount of money even then (much more now) but it weighs next to nothing and will last for the decades to come. That said, I'm not convinced on a Titanium water bottle. I have a plastic pouch (again by Evernew) but that's relatively cheap and weighs nothing and rolls away when not in use.

Put the cup on top of the Bottle and use the draw string on the carrier to hold it in place.

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure it will work but I will try it. Thanks for commenting

40oz is a nice size, but thinking as extra water. Most already have something to heat water in...poured from the Ti bottle. It wouldn't have to leave the carry sack, that looks great. Hunert bucks for a Ti bottle I'm wanting some real threads vs that design. It's extra water. I wonder if you heated a beater Philips screw driver/other to glowing, if it would melt a decent hole in the bottom of the Ti bottle sack for venting/any condensation.

@MarkYoungBushcraft

Жыл бұрын

Great observations. Thanks for commenting

A Lixada 750ml French Press fits just perfectly, not as loose.

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I tried it in three different brand 750ml pots and it fits perfectly. Thanks for commenting

Great vid..made up my mind on product. Can you please tell me what brand that bottle bag is on amazon

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

I bought mine on Aliexpress some time ago. Here is a similar one on Amazon www.amazon.ca/LOVOUS-Military-Tactical-Outdoor-Activities/dp/B01CQOQREA/ref=sr_1_6?crid=KV2UQEWZZW9D&keywords=molle+bottle+pouch&qid=1657370554&sprefix=molle+bottle+pouch%2Caps%2C74&sr=8-6 and one on Aliexpress www.aliexpress.com/item/33012008920.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.37c375f0awxqzT&algo_pvid=550a4cfa-a6c9-40f2-910d-e58bd7d46fcf&algo_exp_id=550a4cfa-a6c9-40f2-910d-e58bd7d46fcf-33&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2267124766228%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21CAD%21%2112.21%21%21%214.7%21%21%402101d64d16573706424278728e7571%2167124766228%21sea you may do better looking around. I searched "molle bottle pouch" Thanks for commenting

Another fine review ! One question concerning Titanium. Does titanium canteens and water bottles hold the heat longer or keeps liquids colder longer than stainless steel products ? Is that a concern or is titanium all about weight savings and strength ?

@apsynto

2 жыл бұрын

No, but they do come to boil quicker. They take and loose heat extremely quickly

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

So, this is an interesting topic and likely to open a can of worms with other viewers. Titanium will generally heat up and loose heat faster than stainless steel but not because it conducts heat better. In fact it does not conduct heat near as well as SS. The reason it is faster is because it is thinner. It can be thinner because it is stronger. So, a cup, bottle, stove, etc with a metal thickness the same as stainless steel will actually be slower to heat and slower to cool. Thanks for commenting

The bayonet lid is one thing I really don’t like about the keith bottle. I really wish they would have went with normal threads. The Self Reliance Outfitters bottle/cup set is nice, except some may not like how narrow the mug is.

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

I agree about the bayonet lid. They do have regular threaded lid bottle but not this size. Thanks for commenting

Nice review! Is there a spout available for the titanium water bottle? Looking for a titanium water bottle with spout for my wife as an edc

@MarkYoungBushcraft

6 ай бұрын

Kieth does not make one and because of the bayonet cap, non of the after-market ones will work. You may want to look at one of their smaller bottles. Thanks for commenting

@practicaldave

6 ай бұрын

Thank you. Do you know of any other brands that come with or accepts after market spouts from other companies?

Thanks for the review! I just might go an get that bottle. Do you know if the bottle fits into the -iBassingo- Bestargot 750ml French coffee press, that you reviewed some time ago? The specs make it sound close, 9.5mm diameter for the Bestargot vs 9.65mm diameter for the Keith 650ml cup. edit: the coffee press is made by Bestargot, not iBassingo

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it fits in all my 750ml titanium mugs including the Bestargot. It is less slack than with the Keith 650ml mug but it does fit nicely. Thanks for commenting

This one doesn’t do it for me. It wouldn’t take long to for the carrying case to get dirty/stained. The other case you showed is much better. I’m old school, I like the GI one.

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

I can understand that. Thanks for commenting

what weight with a cup?!

@MarkYoungBushcraft

10 ай бұрын

Please see the video description. Thanks for commenting

@user27108

10 ай бұрын

@@MarkYoungBushcraft in video you didnt showed bottle with a cup on a scale. only bottle without a cup. watch a vargo steel para bottle the weight similar Keith titanium.

Gotta get me a KZread video channel so people will send me stuff I can’t afford. 🙂 Odd that they made a nestable cup and bottle, but it doesn’t fit in the bag. I guess they’re sold separately?

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

You start a channel and I will subscribe😉. Yes, it was not sold as a set. The pouch was for the bottle only. Thanks for commenting Jim

Whats crazy, a steel one for 9$ weights even less.

@MarkYoungBushcraft

7 ай бұрын

My Rothco SS canteen set weighs 20oz and I paid more than $9.00 for it

No harmful bpa's and other harmful chemicals from these either

@MarkYoungBushcraft

Жыл бұрын

Very true.Thanks for commenting

The fact the pouch doesn’t have a drain hole and won’t fit the whole cookset on a premium priced product isn’t inconvenient, it’s a deal breaker and the the company should be called out and shamed. Profits before people. No thanks.

@MarkYoungBushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting