JP has obviously not had to live in UK for last 12 years , corrosion of public services and political life grinding down the population while the uk -ship piloted towards the rocks…. And I’m definitely not a starmer fan either!…. The structure of the country I have enjoyed was built by a previous generation, this generation of political ministers are borderline treasonous 😢

@sacredcloud23

4 ай бұрын

@yogig6271 No 'borderline' about it! They are working for the benefit of some entity other than the British public. They are indeed thoroughly treasonous and Blair altered the law regarding treason in order to protect himself and all the other filth rats who are involved in their grand megalomaniacal scheme.

@colinanderson7384

4 ай бұрын

Yes, but the answer is not to vote Labour.

@yogig6271

4 ай бұрын

@@colinanderson7384 you sound like you are in a band on the titanic

@tenderhooligan7580

4 ай бұрын

Piers knows he's talking nonsense yet refuses to challenge him

@Station9.75

4 ай бұрын

Completely agree. Although it’s not borderline treason. They are traitors to the people.

Like a herd of sheep shuffling from pen to pen. When you get bored of one pen, you shuffle back to the other. On top of these pens are names. One says Labour, the other says Conservative.

@ibexdnb2879

4 ай бұрын

All the same. Just men in suits who play to the tune of the highest donor.

@montywalton7108

4 ай бұрын

Except that's precisely part of the problem. If you have a populace that see's no point in the vote, then you are really only a stones throw away from complete anarchry

@alexcumbers

4 ай бұрын

What a twat! It can’t be worse than the current fraudulent Tory party!

@jpa_fasty3997

4 ай бұрын

It's funny, the main complaint from labour ideologues is that Tories are anti-immigrant. And yet illegal and legal immigration have absolutely soared under the Tories. Complete illusion that either is better or worse. The rhetoric is slightly different but the result the same. Half tempted to vote Reform in protest.

@craigheadalastair

4 ай бұрын

Wow, how profound.

Voting between Labour & Conservative is like choosing your preferred method of having your country trashed. Either trashed by incompetence & ignoring what voters want verses being trashed by corruption and ignoring what voters want.

@chongy9895

4 ай бұрын

Reform uk

@seamuspadraigsanders431

4 ай бұрын

The conservatives haven't actually done that badly, essentially they have increased GDP and cut the unsustainable borrowing started by Labour. The issue your missing is they took over shortly after the 2008 crisis where Labour had dropped trillions of our GDP while simultaneously pushing our borrowing on public spending to 4 x its previous amount. To let 1.2 million visas pass, the boat crisis and the timely quantitive easing which pushed up inflation as well as being in party during covid was indeed unforgivable but a drop in the ocean compared to the current Labour Party incoming.

@mogznwaz

4 ай бұрын

If you think both aren’t corrupt you’re living in cloud cuckoo land

@VeritasAbsoluta

4 ай бұрын

@@mogznwaz I think the Tories are more corrupt than Labour, but that's only because Labour are ideologically posessed (and really not that bright) so they didn't need the corruption to get them on board with wokeness, climate hysteria, and the WEF.

@stevewilcock4767

4 ай бұрын

Starmer is an illuminati puppet,too friendly with funky Klaus and the WEF.

Voting REFORM, cons and labour are the same party just different ties.

@alexmac2010

4 ай бұрын

Someone clearly forms do politics because they’re simply not - pull your head out the sand

@maybelive765

4 ай бұрын

They're very similar. Conservatives stoop as low as labour when pushed to the wall

@maybelive765

4 ай бұрын

They're very similar. Conservatives stoop as low as labour when pushed to the wall

@EattheRich-re7kv

4 ай бұрын

So are reform... Wake up kid.

@marcritchie4968

4 ай бұрын

​@@EattheRich-re7kvI heard someone say that Tory's and labour are 2 cheeks on the same bum but torys are slightly to the right of Stalin, a good point. Tory's are shocking socialist's but starmer will be worse, if reform split the vote labour gets in. The only way it works is if reform take some labour seats and ALLOT of convervative and we get a Tory reform coalition with reform in number 10 and I hope sir Desmond comes over to reform. It might also help if Nigel farrage takes a seat

The problem is Jordan what other option do the people of the UK have? I don't think he understands the state this country is already in. People can barely afford their bills and buying a home feels like an unobtainable dream, illegal immigration has not been stopped despite Brexit which has done nothing to control our borders and we have a police force that allows terrorist sympathizers on our streets to chant for genocide but has no issue with invading someone's home to arrest an autistic person for calling a police officer a lesbian. What has our Government do to try and change this? "Lets fire Suella Braverman and maybe we should ban pitbulls?" Okay great, well done. Our Government is an utter joke and it has brought us down to our absolute knees begging for crumbs. Trying to tell people they should still vote the Tories despite all the damage they have done feels foolish. I don't like the idea of voting for Labour any more than you do but I don't see what other choice we have, I will likely vote reform but what good that will do seems as equally futile.

@lorenzbroll0101

4 ай бұрын

What's the point in voting anyway, I think you should ask yourself, as they always go off on a tangent once in power with their own pet projects.

@artofsam

4 ай бұрын

@@lorenzbroll0101 I understand why you feel that way and for many years didn't even bother to vote myself because of that reason but unfortunately we don't live in a time where we have the luxury to be apathetic about this. To say you shouldn't vote at all to me feels unproductive, I will more than likely feel some level of shame when I come to vote this year but at least I can say that I voted for something that felt like the lesser of all the evils being presented and I urge you to do the same. Our ancestors have fought and died for rights to vote and however you feel about how voting actually works I feel a sense of duty to vote never the less.

@lexx8115

4 ай бұрын

There is always a choice! but your a sheep that just follows the herd. Why not take a chance on a new party that isn't the main three what harm can it do? people need to wake up and stop following the masses and think for them selves labour isn't going to save this country they will sink it

@daviddestefanis2989

4 ай бұрын

@@lorenzbroll0101 The elites clearly didn't get what they wanted with Brexit. Vote Reform. I'm an American who votes third party for President. So... I've heard all the arguments about a 'wasted vote' a million times before.

@tristenwolf6739

4 ай бұрын

​@@lorenzbroll0101Well said.

Things are already catastrophic in the UK and will remain so irrespective of whatever main party is in power.

@stormbringerseven8288

4 ай бұрын

Hear, hear.

@foxkillingtime

4 ай бұрын

Since Thatcher and continued on by both parties... Rich getting richer. Poor, poorer.

@Rowlph8888

4 ай бұрын

Exaggeration and Peterson is againn talking about Things he's not an expert on.Britain is struggling for sure, but then look at everyone else. if you take all of the 3rd world and developing countries out of the way as "currently" not doing so well as the UK,, even though some of them are gaining ground quickly.Then looking at all the 1st world countries, UK is 1 of only a handful with decent demographics, e.g.: USA, UK, France, Israel, Australia and Scandinavia are the only countries with "close" to replacement level birthrates over the last 45 years, every other 1st world country has backed up catastrophic birthrates in both generations since the beginning of that time, especially Germany and Italy. Then look at the Economies and only USA and France are doing better *The only option is to vote for Starmer to kick out the current regime who have invested nothing in the country, wrecking it since the boom period when Britain had the highest GDP per capita in the world briefly into thousand 2007. There are so many problematic things that we can't solve all of them, but at least we can try to put pressure on Starmer through the unions - voting reform will simply define the vote, the Tories will get in again and finish the country of. As far as normal citizens are concerned - they are in cahoots for the WEF plans as well.

@d4v1do

4 ай бұрын

@@foxkillingtimethe pre Iraq war Blair days weren’t too bad

@stevewilcock4767

4 ай бұрын

​@@Rowlph8888During the previous labour administration Gordon Brown sold off our gold reserves. What was the point of that? Brown when he was chancellor pumped 2 billion into the NHS.No one could account for it! What gives? Cheers.

A Sunak victory would also be catastrophic.

Uk vote reform, give them a chance can’t be any worse than the other two

@tankrabbit534

4 ай бұрын

It never gets worse. [ kzread.info/dash/bejne/n2WBxrijZbnYd7g.html ]

@barryfoster453

4 ай бұрын

@@tankrabbit534 Are you seriously suggesting that the Reform Party is akin the Nazi Party of the 1920s/30s? If not, could you please clarify? I think that vacuums in politics are usually filled, and the pendulum does indeed swing - history shows this time over. But the Reform Party is nowhere near a 'far-right-wing' party, not even in any way close!!! Have you read their policies? Their 16-page document is online - it's essentially the old Conservative manifesto, as Richard Tice and Nigel Farage were both ardent Conservatives (of the social and economic model).

@tricky1581

4 ай бұрын

But if it IS worse, then what? Another 5 years of an even faster decline? I mean, I don't know what the answer is, the Tory/LieBour shitweasels will ONLY perpetuate the misery the country has witnessed over the last quarter of a century, would another "unproven" party be any better? Remember politicians are only interested in the prols just before the polls, once in power the swine all feast from the trough of public expenses and/or the hand of big business lobbyists, and the little man is ignored at best or shafted again so the rich keep getting richer.

@MickeyBlue-eyes

4 ай бұрын

Sounds like a really well thought out vote.

@kenjepson1908

4 ай бұрын

Reform are Tories, further right than the Tories though.

honestly I'm so pessimistic towards all parties in the UK right now that I genuinely do not think it matters who wins or loses at this point. Every party is just a different snakeskin for the same neoliberal machine. If voting mattered, they wouldn't let you do it. But unlike in america, I do not even see any individual political figures to root for. Britain is lost to bureaucracy. And I do fear significant violence on the streets by 2030. But it's out of my hands, I can only control my own life and impact those around me. I've lost all investment in the politics of my nation.

@jimbo4375

4 ай бұрын

There's only really Farage and Reform, not perfect but far less bad than the others

@gunternetzer9621

3 ай бұрын

I agree.

@georgeolo

3 ай бұрын

Surely Reform UK is the most acceptable option at the moment? They seem to actually be conservative in a lot of ways *shock horror* as opposed to the failing Tory party.

@dannymccormick3337

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I'm voting Reform.

@nero7607

3 ай бұрын

I hate to say it but I agree. I honestly wonder at what point is someone going to do something murderous. When a political system no longer serves anything but the people in it and their friends/family, it’s no longer fit for purpose, and if the people in it are willing to support regimes and governments for their own financial gain, then that’s a pass for people governed by that system to do the same and take life (the politicians) to protect their friends/family and countrymen/women for corruption. Im most likely seeing the government through a black and white lens because i do not fully understand the workings of our political system and its components, but i guarantee you, many people like me see it the same, but some others won’t recognise their limited understanding. It’ll be those who I worry about it but also in a small way hope for.

Because we've ended up with an absolute utopia after 14 years of the Tories

@GunitCPT

4 ай бұрын

Our conservatives in the uk are basically labour lite. They aren’t conservative enough. I hate them but I’d rather them than labour. Labour will do WORSE things

@98LPM

4 ай бұрын

Still was better than the 14 years of Labour utopia from the years beforehand.

@chrismacdonald8494

4 ай бұрын

@@98LPM Really, exactly what was better about the debacle of the Tory party over the last 14 years?

@98LPM

4 ай бұрын

@@chrismacdonald8494 They didn't have as incompetent leaders such as Corbyn, Starmer or Brown, the only standout was Blair who actually revitalized the party when he went it went to pot. Neither party is worthy at the moment but I'd pick the blue poison over the trash that is the red.

@jamescorneliustaylor6997

4 ай бұрын

@98LPM you're overlooking the fact that Blair saw the longest period of sustained economic growth for 200years and also reduced borrowing.. You're also overlooking the fact that Gordon Brown protected the people when the Sub prime mortgage crisis hit the UK - the tories would have left lots of people homeless.. No wonder the tories shout 'War criminal ' and 'The note', they hate the fact that LABOUR ARE BETTER AT HANDLING THE ECONOMY.

Starmer is WEF through and through, what more do you need to know about him. God help us all.

@billbo7630

4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately it seems the majority of people still don't know or understand about the wef, and what there agenda means for the ordinary people.

@user-eo9mk5fq7c

4 ай бұрын

what does WEF through and through mean?

@gorilliam

4 ай бұрын

​@user-eo9mk5fq7c he will enforce world economic Forum globalist policies in the UK, its pushing the boundaries of what we call communjsm

@prodigal_

4 ай бұрын

World Economic Forum i.e. globalist

@waynus2021

4 ай бұрын

so is Sunak , how do you think he got power , it certainly wasn`t through votes

I like Jordan but on this occasion he's talking complete bollocks. This is the same 'Venezuela here we come' commentary we heard just before Blair became PM. If Starmer is such an ultra lefty, whey to the ultra left despise him? Best to keep your nose out of this one Mr Peterson.

@msimms-ft9yv

4 ай бұрын

Right. he removed corbyn and Abbott

I'm no fan of the modern so called Tories but voting in Labour would be like trying to put out a fire with petrol

@Malayalikada

4 ай бұрын

💯

@paulds65

4 ай бұрын

Its not like the tories were successful ever since the brexit referendum.

@deceptiveanswer

4 ай бұрын

Or turkeys voting for christmas ^^

@Kergrist

4 ай бұрын

Who do we vote for? For the first time in 48 years of voting not one party appeals to me, speaks for me or could represent me without further damaging the UK (morally or financially).

@kendiamond8722

4 ай бұрын

Their's no problem with labour, it's the tories that created all this misery 😢

Terrible situation … Tories are wholly untenable and Labour is utterly unworkable. Meanwhile Blighty continues is slow demise into dysfunctional obscurity …

@km4089

4 ай бұрын

Vote Reform UK

VOTE REFORM UK 🇬🇧

The man who has dragged the Labour party to the right, whose apeing toryism. If Peterson can name me one policy of Labour, just one, I'll eat my hat. I don't even like Keir Starmer. Venezuela: Rachel Reeves is somewhere to the right of Ronald Reagan, economically. This is a level of impressive ignorance.

He's massively overestimating Starmer here. Starmer is barely to the left of Sunak. As for the ULEZ zones, they've literally happened under a tory government, so i have no idea what he's talking about there

@Nintendoo

4 ай бұрын

Also under Sadiq Khan who is labour and mayor of London who rolled out ULEZ

@vibhac5403

4 ай бұрын

Are you asleep? The ulez scheme has been brought in by labour in London. Sadiq Khan is a labour party mayor of London who introduced this scheme

@williebobs3830

4 ай бұрын

Ok. The tories allowed ulez. Labour have said they will expand it nationwide.

@andywilliams7323

4 ай бұрын

If you actually look at Starmer's history he is very left. He's currently hiding how left and woke he actually is. Plus the majority of the Labour party is very left. The Tories completely oppose ULEZ and 20 mph speed limits. But the Tories are not in power in London, Labour is under Sadiq Khan.

@EattheRich-re7kv

4 ай бұрын

Ulez has been pushed by labour Look at the cities it's in...mostly labour led councils.

I too get my view on UK politics from a Canadian psychologist lmfao

@abcd-by6rw

4 ай бұрын

LOL

@chrisbirch4150

4 ай бұрын

Give Peterson any subject and he will wing it.

@Kingtrollface259

4 ай бұрын

Yet I like Jordan but he hasn't got a clue about our political system,chatting shit on this one Peterson,poor show

@Kingtrollface259

4 ай бұрын

He's not wrong about starmer tho 😂

@L8Pl

3 ай бұрын

All he actually said about Labour is about the ideological culture war side of it. I literally don’t care, we get that either way at the moment. He as a conservative won’t talk about, in practice, who’s actually gonna run the country better because we, at least in the UK, all know that is NOT the Tories.

This is absolutely hilarious 😂. "lay waste to the UK", take a look at what the Torys have done in power!

@henryburton6529

4 ай бұрын

Jordan Peterson obviously knows almost nothing about UK politics but still feels confident enough to say Starmer will ruin the UK. What a complete B3ll3nd! Imagine being that insanely arrogant?

@waynus2021

4 ай бұрын

Same party , two cheeks of the same arse

@mickaparrish

4 ай бұрын

Yes do take a look at what the conservitive have realy done, they are the worst tory party ever but still better that any labour party, please people take a close look at what labour say and the woke ideas they are backing there truly would be “catastrophic” for the UK.

@markmewordz6860

4 ай бұрын

Red, blue ... different turds, same latrine pal.

@MattWiles

4 ай бұрын

Nothing compare to what you'll see if a left government get in. Simply look at Canada, NZ and any other liberal left government run country! Much much worse than UK.

Always nice when Piers asks a good question and then listens!

@allisnotwhatitseems.

4 ай бұрын

It was Jordan Peterson that created Piers new MO. I really like Piers now. Thanks King Jordan. My King. Forever.

@froggiewrench1

4 ай бұрын

Yes, and rare. The guy can rarely tame his Alpha male chest beating style.

@tenderhooligan7580

4 ай бұрын

And never challenges his bullshit like a good Murdoch lackey

@candykane4665

4 ай бұрын

@@tenderhooligan7580 Well said.

@candykane4665

4 ай бұрын

@@allisnotwhatitseems. Oh dear, are you really that gullible.

Whats catastrophic is the past 13 years of austerity and deprivation that the bastard tory government has put this country through. Change is needed.

@RhetoricalMuse

4 ай бұрын

What do you think Labour would have done? Either way it would have been a fuck up

@BionicRasta

4 ай бұрын

Labour was supporting austerity measures going into the 2015 General Election.

@XxxULTIMATEZxxX

4 ай бұрын

How is the deficit ever going to decrease without government spending reductions? The Conservatives implemented austerity and brought the deficit down from 15% to 3% of GDP. It came at a terrible social cost but economically it stabilised the debt. Under Tony Blair we had the largest deficit since World War 2, and he took national debt as a percent of GDP from 39% to 75% by Gordon Brown’s time. The reason why socialists and left-wing supporters in the UK look fondly on Labour of the early 2000s is because Tony Blair spent wildly on public services. Of course it was a great time, but eventually you have to pay the debt back, or your economy will collapse. Look at Greece for an example of what can happen when a country defaults on its national debt. The fundamental problem today is the UK economy is simply not large enough, nor is it growing fast enough to support the spending expected by many in society today. Furthermore, the spending done by the government is mostly wasted in bureaucracy and overstaffed institutions. We saw this during Covid with the wasted money on Nightingale hospitals and PPE contracts. There are too many middle managers in the NHS, and not enough doctors. Wasted money. Why does HMRC have as many employees as the entire British Army? Wasted money. So what do we _reallly_ need?: •Economic growth to support sustainable public spending. •Reduction in national debt and deficit so that less government funds need to go to debt interest payment (as opposed to NHS spending for example). •Reduction in the amount of government control and bureaucracy, so that money goes directly where it is needed, especially in organisations like the NHS. All non-essential staff should be slashed and all government bodies should be financially audited, just how you or I would be audited by HMRC if we missed a tax return. No more executives on multi-million pound bonuses. •Reduction in the amount of economic red tape, regulation and guidelines, so that big corporations can’t monopolise and exploit the country. Large corporations hire lawyers and lobby politicians to exploit the rules. Remove the rules and give small businesses a chance to compete. Lower the barriers to entry across the economy, so big corporations have to fight for their spot by offering better prices or better services, which ultimately benefits society. •Return to Milton Friedman’s free market economic theory. Stop following Keynesian economic theory with maximum government spending possible to “stimulate” the economy, or Labour’s economic theory with regulations to control corporations, which then results in corruption, monopolisation and exploitation. •No more wasting money on foreign wars and military action.

@docholiday-lm4vf

4 ай бұрын

@rh the nsh would be is much much better state FACT

@jacknapier6991

4 ай бұрын

Ah well just stick with this current crock of Sh%t then​@@RhetoricalMuse

REFORM UK 🇬🇧 👍TIME FOR CHANGE

Its always been interesting to me that the US gave Ukraine potent enough weapons to defend themselves but not potent enought weapons to provide retaliatory attacks into Russia. Its almost as if the US wanted the war to go on as long as possible without producing a result. It occurs to me that that is exactly what the Military Industrial Complex would want. Endless war.

@gintasvilkelis2544

4 ай бұрын

No actually, the reason for that is because Biden and his key advisors (esp. Jake Sullivan, who seems to believe that he's some sort of foreign policy genius, while he's clearly far from it) are very afraid that if Russia were to lose, that would be worse than Ukraine winning, therefore they are giving Ukraine _just enough_ NOT to lose, but not enough to win this war. And under the current conditions, the US Military Industrial Complex is actually making _very little_ extra profits, because what Biden is giving Ukraine, are old weapons that were going to be decommissioned and replaced anyway in the fairly near future, which means that the Military Industrial Complex's manufacturing schedule remains practically unchanged from the pre-invasion times. So, this is a misguided political stupidity that benefits neither Ukrainians, nor the US Military Industrial Complex. A quicker Ukrainian victory using a larger number of newer American-made weapons would be more beneficial to Ukrainians _and_ to the US Military Industrial Complex.

@sheilamacdougal4874

4 ай бұрын

1. First of all, when Eisenhower coined that expression in the late fifties, the arms industry 15 years after WW2 and at the height of the Cold War was a substantial segment of the economy, roughly 25% of GDP. It had enormous clout. Today it's about 4%, as opposed to pharmaceuticals (20%). The arms industry has no influence over foreign policy, but what does maverick psychologist Peterson know about it? 2. The Blinken-Sullivan-Kirby-Biden gang were the architects of Obama's appeasement policy after the invasion of Crimea and Donbas and that obviously had nothing to do with boosting arms production, but the opposite. The explanation is cowardice, the same reason they have drip-fed arms to Ukraine. 3. Your assumption is not even correct that drip-feeding arms to Ukraine as opposed to sending a massive amount of expensive long-range missile systems and fighter jets is more lucrative. The opposite is the case - we can crunch numbers if you like. Moreover, those systems and air superiority would have to be maintained for decades if Ukraine succeeded in recovering its territory, especially Crimea. There are serious commenters on the war on Ukraine on yt and elsewhere, including retired generals and military and foreign policy experts. You don’t need a flash-in-the-pan anti-woke star with a background in biological reductionist psychology to understand Ukraine.

@sheilamacdougal4874

4 ай бұрын

1. First of all, when Eisenhower coined that expression in the late fifties, the arms industry 15 years after WW2 and at the height of the Cold War was a substantial segment of the economy, roughly 25% of GDP. It had enormous clout. Today it's about 4%, as opposed to pharmaceuticals (20%). The arms industry has no influence over foreign policy, but what does maverick psychologist Peterson know about it? 2. The Blinken-Sullivan-Kirby-Biden gang were the architects of Obama's appeasement policy after the invasion of Crimea and Donbas and that obviously had nothing to do with boosting arms production, but the opposite. The explanation is cowardice, the same reason they have drip-fed arms to Ukraine. 3. Your assumption is not even correct that drip-feeding arms to Ukraine as opposed to sending a massive amount of expensive long-range missile systems and fighter jets is more lucrative. The opposite is the case - we can crunch numbers if you like. Moreover, those systems and air superiority would have to be maintained for decades if Ukraine succeeded in recovering its territory, especially Crimea. There are serious commenters on the war on Ukraine on yt and elsewhere, including retired generals and military and foreign policy experts. You don’t need a flash-in-the-pan anti-woke star with a background in biological reductionist psychology to understand Ukraine.

@robzombie5928

4 ай бұрын

Himars have longer range but your point isnt wrong

@03olo020

4 ай бұрын

You clearly don't realise what attacks on Russian land would mean for the Ukraine.

He would be another Turdeau in the making.

@martinepstein3332

4 ай бұрын

After 13 years of glorious Tory success?

@buy.to.let.britain

4 ай бұрын

haha

@awc900

4 ай бұрын

@@martinepstein3332 But Turdeau is even worse.

@martinepstein3332

4 ай бұрын

@@awc900 more concerned about what is happening in my home country of Britain

@awc900

4 ай бұрын

@@martinepstein3332 The Conservatives might be bad but if you want it to become like Canada, Labour will lead the way.

Our country died and lays in Flanders Fields and beyond 😢

Vote for Reform UK

Unfortunately JP is 100%correct

@cs56076

4 ай бұрын

Sadiq Kahn didn’t instigate ULEZ, it was the conservative Boris Johnson

@Nick-fg4dq

4 ай бұрын

No he isn't,what dies he know about government,he's a talking head.

@maureenstarr5744

4 ай бұрын

He is completely correct just you wait and see

@stevenvater8720

4 ай бұрын

@@maureenstarr5744 yes, but I wish he wasn't, we in dis united kingdom are flicked!

@tenderhooligan7580

4 ай бұрын

He's clueless

“Venezuela here we come” oh dear. Starmer is about as radical as Miss Marple.

It's a popular sentiment to hate politicians, this tory govt have been an absolute disgrace. But Dr Peterson needs to stay in his swim lane, he isn't a politician and further exacerbating the political/societal rift is very dangerous in these times. I respect the man greatly as a psychologist and advocate for young men finding purpose; but I urge you all to not be blinded by the pedestal we put him on.

@JamieP43

4 ай бұрын

Well said

@eddyd63

3 ай бұрын

@@Monkey_nuts_His opinion here is entirely misinformed and people rightly pointing that out is also completely fine.

I shall never understand why people hate JP. He always speaks total truth.

@jdekong3945

4 ай бұрын

That is the reason sadly

@enigma7791

4 ай бұрын

The ones who hate him are the ones that are part of the problem. The woke left!

@lorenzbroll0101

4 ай бұрын

Most don't like the truth - it often hurts.

@tigershark7155

4 ай бұрын

Answered your own question. World is full of illogical and emotional thinking people.

@racitup4114

4 ай бұрын

People don't like the truth. Glad to see I'm not alone.

Very interesting and logical view of a possible Starmergeddon for U.K.!!!

@Station9.75

4 ай бұрын

Oh yeah because the country’s doing so well under the Torries… I don’t like Starmer but who are the people supposed to vote for?

@hog7302

4 ай бұрын

@@Station9.75 reform

@mcb2067

4 ай бұрын

@@Station9.75 I didn’t mention anything about the Tories. In fact I agree their latest innings has been a disaster in extraordinary times. Doesn’t change the fact that Starmer is not fit for purpose with no experience no polices no solutions and definitely no ideas of his own from what he has shown to date! Time for a reset and Reform for U.K. don’t you agree?

Turkeys voting for Christmas is a vote for Labour 😅

@martinepstein3332

4 ай бұрын

Up to the British people to decide

@nathanb2882

4 ай бұрын

Textbook definition of the left.

@martinepstein3332

4 ай бұрын

@@nathanb2882 left wingers, right wingers, centre forward, just positions in a 1960s football team

@Dont_Be_Ridiculous

4 ай бұрын

@@martinepstein33322020's football team: x11 Left wingers🧎‍♀(f or m?).

@msimms-ft9yv

4 ай бұрын

Voting for the tories is like Fred West voting for the death penalty

Peterson talks like Labour have never been in power before. An unhinged, ultra-religious psychologist saying that a human rights lawyer has got no sense. That is quite something!

@jamieeddolls5605

4 ай бұрын

He's neither unhinged or ultra religious. The man is from a currently fucked up Canada and lost his psychology license if i remember right because he refused to refer to people by their preferred pronouns. He simply thinks Labour is a step in that direction

There aren't many people Piers really listens to, but Jordan is definitely one of them.

@msimms-ft9yv

4 ай бұрын

Thats because he doesn't understand him

@pquirke

4 ай бұрын

He is one person who Piers can't actually talk over. Peterson doesn't let anyone talk over him or he just has a strop and checks out of the conversation.

@maureenstarr5744

4 ай бұрын

But the whole of Europe is in a state Germany in recession everything so expensive across Europe when I was in Portugal they were demonstrating against cost of living 30% tax and rents sky high

@stephenoxf

4 ай бұрын

@@msimms-ft9yv Same with many of his followers. It's his shtick, and good for him, hook line and sinker. Dangerous, though, if people who aren't concerned with questioning him still believe him.

@Armyofwives

4 ай бұрын

And cos he gets paid to act like jordan knows all and is intellectual god

What I find interesting is that I read about SO many people here that are so negative about the political options in the UK. It makes me wonder; First the financial crisis was the problem, then immigrants were the problem, then EU was the problem, now immigrants are the problem again... Is there a chance the political system itself might be a problem? The House of Commons is simply not a functional means of democratic representation.

Imagine thinking the Labour Party are Socialist 🤣🤣🤣

@shadowandpancakes

4 ай бұрын

They are?

@user-ow5oj7fj6l

4 ай бұрын

Literally describe themselves as democratic socialists

@Yea_its_good

4 ай бұрын

they are?

@Alexander-cn5sc

4 ай бұрын

Exactly - they aren’t by any stretch

@maJastoL

4 ай бұрын

So are they or not?

VOTE REFORM PEOPLE 🇬🇧 TELL YOU'RE FAMILY & FRIENDS SAVE OUR COUNTRY ☝️💯

@montywalton7108

4 ай бұрын

Don't vote reform.

@thesolomag

4 ай бұрын

@@montywalton7108 Voting reform is idiotic they will never win, if anything it plays into Labours hands. Labour will sadly surely win this election…

Peterson needs to do some reading about Russia and Putin. I don’t think he has a clue. He’s very knowledgeable on many fields, but not this one.

Things are so great under the tories NOT, PEOPLE WITH MONEY BIG HOUSES PRIVATE HEALTHCARE HAVE NO IDEAR HOW HARD IT IS TO GET BY UNDER A TORIE GOVERNMENT

@moomin7461

4 ай бұрын

They have no idea, but also they couldn't care less.

Reform party!

I agree with Peterson on many things. He couldn't be more wrong here on UK Labour.. the historic data shows the UK thriving under Labour.

@lesleywillis6177

4 ай бұрын

Ooh socialism, show me the data.

@pumaRAWR1

4 ай бұрын

​@@lesleywillis6177 Blair was domestically the best PM the UK had in decades

@samhodgins9804

4 ай бұрын

It doesn't thrive they borrow money and spend and eventually it leads to budt

@archie7218

5 күн бұрын

@@samhodgins9804Well the 2008 crisis was nothing to do with Labour if that’s what your talking about. Also the tories have actually borrowed more money than Labour (though i recognise that covid and 2008 aftermath were a factor in this)

@samhodgins9804

5 күн бұрын

If the UK thrives under Labour why isn't Birmingham, Bradford, Bristol, London, Wales etc

Unfortunately Labour will probably get in. People will just think because the Conservative Party has been so bad, we need to vote the other one in - regardless of how much worse it'll be.

@boeos

4 ай бұрын

That's pretty much been British politics over the years, this party is crap, turn to party 2 oh they're crap lets go back to party 1 again....

@djsuth7727

4 ай бұрын

@@boeos This. The entire political system in the UK isn't fit for purpose.

@budbud2509

4 ай бұрын

@@djsuth7727 And it seems like most of the candidates are complete rubbish

@djsuth7727

4 ай бұрын

@@budbud2509 They are. It's like choosing between the devil or the deep blue sea.

@Delboy591

4 ай бұрын

​@@boeosIts the people's fault. They are too lazy and stupid to educate themselves. Then complain when it's too late.

He has no understanding that Labour and Conservative are practically the same party at this point, and perhaps labour is slightly closer to the political centre, but essentially he is just talking about something he knows absolutely nothing about.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money. Both Tories and Labour have followed this principle since Blair. Sad really.

@yogig6271

4 ай бұрын

Same argument with corporate/ capitalist extraction..." Running out of other people's money"! ...

@user-po2qb6cm9q

4 ай бұрын

Thatcher said that and when she was kicked out of office,the Treasury coffers were empty. She'd been in office for 11 and a half years. What happened?

@Alex-ni2ir

4 ай бұрын

You seriously think the labour party right now is socialist? But not to mention, this conservative government so far has had a very strong record of spending taxpayers money in the most inefficient and wasteful way possible.

@kier1568

4 ай бұрын

Starmer isn't a socialist by any stretch😂🤡

@MarcusMay95

4 ай бұрын

Not if you collect tax in the right place like corporations and fat cats. That would easily fund socialist projects.

Either party (Conservative or Labour) would be a disaster for the country. We need to stop voting for the main parties! We need reform, vote Reform👍

Socialism = What is yours is mine and what is mine is mine.

@TopCatsBack

4 ай бұрын

All animals are equal and some are more equal than others .

@jamesquinlan2638

4 ай бұрын

Ever thought that maybe that's what the ultra-rich want us all to believe? The ultra-rich who are able to undermine our democracies by using their financial weight to lobby our democratically-elected representatives.

@markpalmer8083

4 ай бұрын

Socialism: Give me what you have and share it all out. And when you've spent yours and I've saved mine, we'll share it all out again.

@msimms-ft9yv

4 ай бұрын

@@markpalmer8083 Spend yours also

@jamesquinlan2638

4 ай бұрын

@@markpalmer8083 "We", "you".,.. this is wrong. It's based on income. It's not perfect but it's very simple and fair. You've nevertheless managed to get confused...

Someone needs to listen to this man everybody needs to listen😮😮😮😮

@LuciferBlack-er9jd

4 ай бұрын

Lol After he shovels concrete for 15 years.... Then and only then will he know what the average person wants.. News of the World is what they want... 😆😆😆

@user-jf5pe5kg1h

4 ай бұрын

Agree but listening is not enough as action is required !

@sheilamacdougal4874

4 ай бұрын

Does this imbecile know that Russia actually invaded Ukraine, is occupying 20% of its territory, has kidnapped thousands of Ukrainian children, has committed every manner of atrocity there, bombards Ukrainian citizens daily and nightly? Or is that too all fabricated by the "military-industrial complex"?

@sheilamacdougal4874

4 ай бұрын

Kind of like an undergraduate Trotskyist on the other side of the spectrum, except on Ukraine, where he's just an undergraduate Trotskyist tout court.

Jordan is someone who talks like an expert on subjects that often he know very little about.

@mandarkastronomonov2962

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for your expert analysis. 😀

@daverushton6114

3 ай бұрын

@@mandarkastronomonov2962 and mine!

@allosaurusfragilis7782

3 ай бұрын

Must admit I prefer when he sticks to his area of expertise.

@OranageFlash

3 ай бұрын

LoL the irony in comment is mind blowing

@eddyd63

3 ай бұрын

@@mandarkastronomonov2962 You don't have to be an expert to know that Starmer isn't far left. The fact that Peterson talks in this way when even some of the least informed people in the UK knows that he's talking nonsense shows how incapable Peterson is of talking about this subject.

War is a racket.

This Guy was head of the CPS during the Post Office Scandal and had the power to Halt Process on wrongful convictions of Post Office Staff ,, he did nothing , Think about that when you Vote for Labour 😢

@SpeedfreakUK

4 ай бұрын

Also during the Rotherham rape gangs and Jimmy Saville.

@cs56076

4 ай бұрын

The post office could prosecute people totally privately. Starmer worked in a public capacity , so What you’re saying isn’t Right.

It’s a catastrophe right now and has been for years with this government. Labour will bring back the workers rights and workers unions across the board. They will stop the exploiting 0 hours contracts and poor work conditions. They will build the affordable houses on the green belt land for the majority not houses just 10% of the population can buy. The British people need someone like Sir Kier Starmar for hope for a future.

@tracycritchley9471

4 ай бұрын

Oversupply of workers is why zero hours contracts are in wide use. There are millions of workers to take your place. This is why Labour opened the borders. Labour has ensured the erosion of British workers rights (and wages) through mass immigration. They are not your friend

@andymccallum8090

4 ай бұрын

what do you mean by worker rights exactly? lol

He's probably right about Starmer, but we're already facing a catastrophe with the Tories and have been for the last 14 years. What we need going forward, is a change in the voting system with PR and allowing smaller fringe parties and independent candidates a better chance of winning seats in parliament.

@georgeolo

3 ай бұрын

Agreed, I would vote Reform UK but they will never have a chance of winning my local seat. Consequently, the choice for me is now between Conservatives and Liberal Democrats... oh goody!

Well said, Dr Peterson !!!! Agree completely !!

@GerryT.

4 ай бұрын

You been asleep for the last 14 years?

@tenderhooligan7580

4 ай бұрын

@@GerryT. certainly has been

@kier1568

4 ай бұрын

He didn't make a single point or substantiate it. He just called a centre right party 'socialist' and compared Starmer to Chavez. He clearly knows nothing about UK politics but wants to keep his key audience demographics happy with some "left is bad" spiel.

@mikecook1537

4 ай бұрын

Completely agree too! Labour need to be kept out!!!!

@GerryT.

4 ай бұрын

@@mikecook1537 You been asleep for the last 14 years?

Listen to intelligent people like Jordan not twits that have ridiculous views. If they don't listen. The state of affairs will decline even further.

@sheilamacdougal4874

4 ай бұрын

He has the intellect of an undergraduate Trotskyist.

@cs56076

4 ай бұрын

Sadiq Kahn didnt instigate ULEZ, it was Boris Johnson

@cuchulainn3474

4 ай бұрын

@gagacoco5577 The sad thing is that people fail to understand that Peterson is one of the many pied piers of TPTB.

@jezcorrigan651

4 ай бұрын

He’s intelligent in his field. All his Canadian predictions never happened regarding politics

@sheilamacdougal4874

4 ай бұрын

@@jezcorrigan651 "He's intelligent in his field." I once forced myself to listen to a lecture of his, and found it to be crude biological reductionism. Do you actually know his work, or you just assume it must be good? He seems to benefit from the fact that although he's famous, he seems not particularly insightful or informed outside of his field, so everyone assumes he must at least be good in his field. Not necessarily.

JP stick to talking word salad involving areas your qualified in like head shrinkery, uk is dead no matter who is elected, government can only be as strong as the people it represents, uk too fragmented, tribal, divisive and polarised....being thousands of miles away from is a blessing.

The problem with billionaires and trillionaires is that they support socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor.

The conservatives did this to themselves. They took their power for granted

Up to the British people to decide

@daveglynn748

4 ай бұрын

Decide' REFORM UK!🇬🇧

@martinepstein3332

4 ай бұрын

@@daveglynn748 no chance without PR

Personally I regret voting for Boris and the Conservatives ..Never knew Boris was such a war monger At this point I would welcome a Corbyn government Nationalising the Railways electric and water companies and price caping rents doesnt sound so daft now does it

🤣 at the rich guy complaining that the poor will have some help from Starmer

@Nbstevens78

4 ай бұрын

The poor bring nothing bar taking so they aren't a priority

@samhodgins9804

4 ай бұрын

They won't though you need to look who is donating to him

Venezuela here we come.... Agree with Dr Peterson here.... Although the Conservatives are also taking us down that path

Yes, we are hungry for change ... the only problem is 'None of the above thieves, liars and self-servers' is the only option that doesn't appear on the ballot form.

Completely wring on Israel and the role of Iran.

Sad times when catastrophe seems like a utopia from the current situation.

JP is not an expert in this matter as much as i hate Kier

On one hand, five years of a Labour government is a good things as it will force the Conservative Party to become conservative again and those under 50 would be taught a lesson in the realities of a non-Blair Labour government. One the other hand, the UK will become a one party state for a while if he lowers the minimum voting age to 16, but the irony of that with the open door immigration policies that will no doubt follow Sharia will end left wing politics in the UK and a lot of people who voted for it, will become acquainted with roof tops.

@ernstwiltmann6

4 ай бұрын

Without Corbin, you only get a WEF stooge "L" party .

@ABC-rh7zc

4 ай бұрын

No, it will do the opposite. If the Tories lose they will lean even more left to appeal to the voters. We already have the choice of hard left or radical left. There is no conservative party.

@lexx8115

4 ай бұрын

they are both the same side of the same coin..... stop voting for either vote reform if you want change

@ernstwiltmann6

4 ай бұрын

@@ABC-rh7zc Both Parties are controlled by the WEF. Perhaps a Farmer Protest like in Germany might derail them.

@stevelarkin5987

4 ай бұрын

You speak 🗑️ man

GB to the of level Venezuela. Jeez.

People get the government they deserve.

Morgan keeping his mouth shut is a first nice one, TRUTH IS BEST

Bang on the money as always.

I am not a Labour fan,but can he f**k the country up more than it is

Time for total change, vote reform uk

Labour equals total nightmare

@dj_cakes

4 ай бұрын

But the last time we had a Labour government the country ran just fine. Honestly, i live here, i remember it well.

@Lamont_Smythe

4 ай бұрын

@@dj_cakes Really? I remember them being absymal, which is why they got voted out.

@dj_cakes

4 ай бұрын

Please tell us, what aspects of the country were abysmal from 1997 -2008 @@Lamont_Smythe

@Lamont_Smythe

4 ай бұрын

@@dj_cakes I remember they just kept borrowing more and more money, they opened the flood gates for hordes of immigrants, and dragged us into an immoral war.

@moomin7461

4 ай бұрын

Tories equals perpetual nighmare

It's all good and well saying a Labour victory would be catastrophic for the country, and personally I believe it! But, to continue with the present status quo in my mind would be just as bad which displays how rotten and predictable British politics is! Until this mutually convenient two party state is broken I can't see much change ahead which explains the present contempt and disdain Westminster has for the people of this country, if a strong and viable third party can emerge it would definitely change the political landscape and perhaps add a bit of fresh air to what is a stale and rancid political cabal!

Does Peterson know ANYTHING about the damage inflicted on the UK by the Tories over the last 13 years, not to mention their incompetence and corruption? He should stick to his areas of expertise. British politics clearly isn't one of them!

I see a tragic similarity between the two wars mentioned.........Iran is willing to fight Israel to the last Palestinian, and America is willing to fight Russia, to the last Ukrainian. Its so sad to watch all the innocents caught in the crossfire.

What a load of tosh, things were pretty good in 2010 when Labour lost the election, and now it's an absolute mess. Labour have a much better economic record on growth, the Tories do not understand that you have to invest in a country. JP again talking about stuff that he is clueless about.

@jeremijakrstic1968

4 ай бұрын

> things were pretty good in 2010 when Labour lost the election Modern day Labour has only less and less to do with Labour back then. I really appreciate your comment - it reminded me that bad politics, as we experience these days, usually turns into worse politics. If you do a little bit of research, you are going to find out how many European countries experienced pretty much the same issue during the past decade. Let me assure you - things might, and most likely will become more problematic. So, brace yourself.

@eddyd63

3 ай бұрын

@@jeremijakrstic1968The left wing of the labour party have been going ballistic about Starmer working with Blair, Brown and Mandelson. What you're saying simply isn't true. The main criticism would be that it is a continuation of New Labour.

@archie7218

5 күн бұрын

@@jeremijakrstic1968Labour now is almost identical to the Blair/Brown years. Starmer has literally made it is only mission to emulate New Labour and put as much distance between himself and cJeremy Corbyn as possible 😂😂😂😂

I am resigned to the UK voting for starmer. Four years of dreadful decline, the necessary pain to wake people up. (Please wake up!) Then maybe things can get better. Trouble is I haven't got many years left.

@villaman4818

4 ай бұрын

Thank god

@vibhac5403

4 ай бұрын

Trouble is that the UK will have sunk so low in those 5 years that it will be difficult to recover

Nah, you've got this one wrong. For a start, Starmer is as right leaning as Sunak is. He's more competent than the latter, too.

What Jordon Peterson says is not only right, it's also well-known by anyone who doesn't rely on the corporate media for news. I've got to say though, I was surprised Piers Morgan didn't interrupt Peterson (and keep doing it) as he does others who say much the same thing.

@d4v1do

4 ай бұрын

Anyone who understands politics, markets and ideology can see that the Uk is a sinking ship for the next 15 years at least

@johngower2208

4 ай бұрын

they're all corporate media. controlled opposition. wake up

Keir Starmer who changes his views on a whim. Ex human rights lawyer says it all.

@OldGreyMulletTest

4 ай бұрын

So you don't like human rights? Er, ok.

Stop giving your energy to these sell outs. They don't care about the people. They do it for their pockets. Grow your own food. Get out debt. Become self sufficient in every aspect of your life and get them away from you. That is the greatest act of rebellion. Politicians and government i mean.

I’ve never heard it put so well, but I agree 100%.

Let’s hope plenty of labour voters are JP fans. Might at least get some of them to think, rather than blindly ticking the red box “because that’s what I always do” later this year. A strong protest vote is needed to at least try to force change. With Tories or Labour in power the UK will continue walking (although recently it feels more like a jog) towards its doom.

Dissecting what JP says, he continuously makes grammatical and general language errors…uses an unnecessary amount of long words to divert the attention of what he’s actually saying- all in all, he’s a very good bullshiter* Shame so many vulnerable men listen to him

Canadian Psychologist on Sky News Australia talking about UK votes. Life was a lot better before this lot got in power and its just got worse and worse. I'm living it, i'm breathing it, i'm feeling it. Meanwhile this guy owns a $10m dollar property in Miami and others in Canada no doubt. Where does the jeopardy lie with him? What are his motivations for doing this interview? The$e are the question$ people need to be a$king?

haha JP isn't an expert when it comes to UK politics. Starmer has smashed the crank left. To equate Starmer to the state of Venezuela is beyond moronic.

If we believe Labour will get in then they will, if by some miracle type event the Tories get back in we are then accepting a status quo down hill just a little slower than Labour, we need to individually convince our friends & family to use their vote for change and put that cross anywhere but in a Labour or Conservative box, oh or a Greens box.

@alanhenderson6497

3 ай бұрын

I could never vote for a party who doesn't believe in a nuclear deterrent.

Both Jordan Peterson & Douglas Murray should enter politics and save the world with their sense.

@anthonyat2401

4 ай бұрын

I would have agreed, until Murray's ludicrous stance on Palestine. I'm really disappointed in him and believe his personal emotional issues have gotten the better of him in this issue.

@daveglynn748

4 ай бұрын

@@anthonyat2401 what do you find obnoxious about Murray's stance on palestine? I must have missed something.

@PortugalZeroworldcup

4 ай бұрын

​@@anthonyat2401he visited Israel He can't visit Palestine because it's not a country

@anthonyat2401

4 ай бұрын

@@PortugalZeroworldcup ... and you don't understand what I wrote because your English isn't adequate.

@pashagoodlife9217

4 ай бұрын

How is "Iran's "indifference" to the killing of thousands of palestinians" is a horrible thing, while Israel's indifference to the same thing is not really worthy of being talked about? Israel is doing the killings, but it is all the Iranian mullahs' fault? How come?

The fact he referred to Labour as 'Socialist' just says it all. He should stick to writing shit books.

The only way forward for the UK is to vote for Reform UK!

I tend to agree with his points regarding the UK, but I still cannot bring myself to vote Tory in the next election. Not after the last few years. I will tick some other box, and hope, probably in vain.

@andrewweighell2042

4 ай бұрын

This is my plan, god knows who i will vote for at this point but it wont be either labour or tory

@daviddestefanis2989

4 ай бұрын

@@andrewweighell2042 Vote Reform. Or any party that supports PR.

"Victory has defeated you." Bane

@EdgyDabs47

4 ай бұрын

Or perhaps he was wondering why someone would shoot a man, before throwing him out of a plane

I respect JP a lot, but he doesn’t make a point of acknowledging how badly the UK is already doing, outside of London. We’re already on track to be the lowest performing developed nation in 2024. He may be right that it may only get worse under labour, but it should be acknowledged that the Torries have spent the last decade trying to surpass one another within the party and have completely forgotten that there’s an actual country to be managed. There is absolutely zero vision with the UK at the minute towards some sort of ideal future - the whole nation is seemingly just plodding along, trying to survive. There’s no sense of hope, or identity.

Could never vote for a man who let saville off

This guy talks a lot of sense

@cs56076

4 ай бұрын

Sense? He talks non-sense. Sadiq Kahn didn’t start ULEZ, it was actually Boris Johnson. Peterson illustrates how little he knows

@DAHIRDUBI

4 ай бұрын

@@cs56076 I agree sadiq kahn doesn't have a lot of say he is a labour mayor in a torie premiership. Its like a gay guy at a lesbian orgy nothing will happen for him.

Some people are not happy, and want “change”. But these people does not understand that it can always get worse, which of course it will be…

I agree but it’s terrible in every way under the Sunak admin so… It just sucks, I’m just going to do my best.

I love seeing so many Australians comment on a Canadian's thoughts on UK politics as if any of them have any clue whatsoever🤡😂

Catastrophic sounds like an improvement on what we currently have. I still wish we went with chaos under Ed Miliband when we still had the chance.

@Im_Really_Jesus_4real

4 ай бұрын

In reality, everything would be exactly the same

@archie7218

5 күн бұрын

@@Im_Really_Jesus_4realwell brexit would never have happened for a start