am meeting this guy almost daily at the streets of Eldoret town Kenya and it seems no one recognizes this great legend who introduced kenyan prowess in athletics to the rest of the world....thank God he is still in great shape and doing great things to the upcoming talents

@TRuffhouse

2 жыл бұрын

Nice. He put Kenya on the map.

@weebrianful

Жыл бұрын

I remember watching him win the 3000m steeplechase in 1972 . I was watching it at university and there was a huge cheer as he came over the final hurdle , he was so loved and respected .

@MyOneFiftiethOfADollar

10 ай бұрын

kenyan prowess in athletics replaced by "kenyan prowess in ENDURANCE"

In september 2013 I had the pleasure of meeting Kipchoge in a Nairobi super market and we had photographs taken together.This great man was very much a gently man and made my visit to Kenya a special one. Thank you KIPCHOGE

@titusrukenya3193

3 жыл бұрын

Karibu

@kariango1503

2 жыл бұрын

“...and Keino will never be caught”.

Winning a Silver medal in the Olympics was still a great accomplishment for Jim Ryun. It's too bad that there were no World Championships until 1983. I enjoy the World Championships of Track and Field just as much as I enjoy watching the Olympics, maybe even a little more so.

A magnificent performance from the great Kip Keino, never to be forgotten.

@booklover3959

5 жыл бұрын

What a beautiful comment. And true too.

@jadedbrad

3 жыл бұрын

I would love to have seen him run at sea level right after. That must be worth 3:32.

@musik102

9 ай бұрын

But, at sea level, Ryun would have beaten him...and did a number of times.

@jaybee946

9 ай бұрын

@@musik102 I don't think Ryun had the fitness to beat Keino when he was this good. 3:34 at altitude, completely from the front the last two laps, and after the heats is crazy. That's easily a potential sub 3:30 performance at sea level in a proper record attempt. Ryun's all-time best was only 1 second faster than what Keino ran here. And that's at sea level with pacers and no prior heats. Keino peaked for a fairly short time and unfortunately never had any good world record attempts. But during this race I think he was simply faster than Ryun.

@musik102

9 ай бұрын

But, we don't how much of a negative effect - if any -the altitute had on Keino. Remember, a world record was equaled at 800m. Also, at sea level, Jim would never had let Kip get even a 2m lead.

The great Kenyan who played the tactical rabbit role Ben Jipcho has today 24th July 2020 passed away aged 77. R.I.P hero

@paulcardona2922

3 жыл бұрын

yes he did was in the papers today 25 july 2020

Ryun is less than a month older than I am and I had followed his career with the greatest interest. He had destroyed Keino repeatedly in 1967 when he set two new world records. These were four of the most painful minutes of my whole life. Bravo to Keino for an incredible race.

@user-lb9wj6qy2p

Жыл бұрын

Mexico CITY was his doom. the Africans defeated the white,man Kip Keino is better than then Ryun ,

@user-lb9wj6qy2p

Жыл бұрын

After this humiliation the whites who control sports ruled no more Olympics at this altitude. of course that how they cheat .

@charlesporter1148

11 ай бұрын

It was tremendously insulting for Jim Ryun, Ron Clarke, and George Young to be beaten by the inferior Kenyans at altitude...olympic games corruption at its finest...keino despite the planned pacing and fast tartan track still fell 2 seconds short of ryuns world record set on a slow dirt track where ryun destroyed keino in that race...personally im insulted myself watching these Kenyans get cheap victories and further insulted by that ignorant announcer blaming ryuns inevitable loss on poor running tactics...the Kenyans should have their medals stripped and the announcer fired

@MyOneFiftiethOfADollar

10 ай бұрын

Was extremely important for you to share you and Ryun are close to the same age. Nobody destroys anybody in a foot race. Sometimes in boxing but not track and field.

@runcaz7802

6 ай бұрын

This was an exception. Keino DID destroy him.

This was a classic team performance. Ben Jipcho blasted away for the first 800 metres and took the sting out of Jim Ryun. That allowed Kip Keino to control the final 700 metres. With Jipcho's help Keino won the gold. It was on Sunday October 20th 1968. I was 10 years old. cannot believe it is 51 years since I watched this race. Ryun's magnificent last lap sprint showed that if it had been a slow start he would definitely have won it. Brilliant tactivs by the Kenyans.

@kevinongiri3601

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for recognizing the other legend.......Rest in Peace Benjamin Wabura Jipcho

@Owanango

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinongiri3601 Ditto that!

@charlesporter1148

11 ай бұрын

That's it...cheer on the high altitude Kenyans while ryun never had a chance at altitude to begin with....not only that despite running on a tartan track with the aid of pacing keino still ran almost 2 seconds slower than ryuns world record on a slow dirt track..of course you didnt bother to think of that...you appear to have a quite shallow understanding of running and ryuns accomplishments.

@ervineokuboh7459

11 ай бұрын

​@@charlesporter1148 If you read what I said instead of getting riled up, you would see that I said it was brilliant tactics by the Kenyans. That was the only way they were going to beat Jim Ryun. I said that Ryun's magnificent last lap showed that he would have won if it had been a slow start. So tell me where in my comment did I not acknowledge Ryun, since 1) the Kenyans acknowledged that they had to devise a plan to beat him and 2) despite the fast start by Jipcho, Ryan still came second. Nowhere in my statement did I diminish Ryun. In that era he was the greatest miler without question.

@Annat4r

10 ай бұрын

What the person who posted this comment said was perfectly reasonable. It was a good racing strategy that deserves recognition

Kipchoge Keino. Hero to Legend to the great Humanitarian he has been for many years now in his native Kenya. I was honored to meet him about 1971 in Kenya. A gracious, humble, wonderful man.

Keino's time was fantastic if at sea level but phenomonal at altitude. it is a given an athlete at high altitude has that special lung utilization over sea level training. It is also true Ryun had mono before Olympics but Kip had painful gall stones. Bodo Tummler was an extremely powerful runner w great speed (but youtube Ryun Dusseldorf). Now what I admire about kip is he was willing to try n race Ryun...he seemed to try different tactics each time he raced Ryun....he waited til one lap....smoked...then waited ti 2 laps...smoked....then when Ryun broke 1500m WR Keino ran one lap near 60 then with 3 laps left really poured it on but again Ryun smoked him. Rather than yield to one of the greatest finisherd all time...he plans to take off not w 3 laps but basically after 40sec he took command. Great tactics. Ryun ran smartly because the pace was fast although Tummler felt Ryun should have stayed a bit closer. Remember...no one beat Jim Ryun on last lap in 3 years. I think the big guys like Tummler n Ryun (6'2) ran well. That is the beauty of racing.....only the finish line decides. Also Ryun and Keino were special men....Ryuns camps and especially all the children Kip took under his wing with his wife's help. Fantastic. Long live the child.

@soulyrasheed

9 ай бұрын

very nice comment - Kip was a learner and he always learned hoe to beat greats (or anyone other)

Kip Keino thru down the gauntlet & Ryun could not match him on the day.To go so far from home took a lot of courage one of the great runs of all time.

Ryun was 21. Keino was 28. Ryun beat everyone but Keino. He had nothing to be ashamed of there.

Amazing run from Kip, his sixth race in eight days! He'd run a 10,000 days before and collapsed battling gall bladder problems then bouncing back a few days later to take silver in the 5,000 and then making this 1500 against doctors orders. Amazing athlete.

As a young boy I LOVED watching Keino's beautiful running style, so graceful, so powerful. And it's 50 years ago this year !

Keino is revered in many parts of the world for things beyond his running. Amazing man

@MyOneFiftiethOfADollar

10 ай бұрын

Can you give us an example of something else he is revered for?

@soulyrasheed

9 ай бұрын

@@MyOneFiftiethOfADollar Menschkeit. While Ryun...? religious trips?

Speaking of Rabbits. I was a 4:28 miler in high school in the early 70's. I had a teammate who was a 4:12 miler as a junior and would run a 4:07 as a senior. In the L.A. city championships there another kid in the finals with us who had ran 4:15. My coach ask me to be the rabbit go out in 2:02 to help my teammate, I told him no way. I wasn't going to Oregon like my teammate. I thought I had a chance to get 3rd which I did, and the top three got to go to the California Masters. I finished at the back of the pack at the state meet but just getting there was my proudest athletic moment.

@donaldblackmon36

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder what your coach said to you after running your own race

@kenkur27

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if there was ever a case at high level meets where one of those 'rabbits' ended up winning or at least finishing on the podium? Maybe not physically possible? Could see it happening if the field insisted on a slow tactical race.

@richardmilliken5651

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, my cousin Art Dulong ran a 4:04.5 in the mile for Randolph H.S., Massachusetts in 1966. He would've given Gerry Lindgren a good race in XC. He ran between 90 - 100 miles per week and did monster interval work just like Jim Ryun!

I was born in the US to teenage parents who always wanted their first born to have a consciousness of her ethinic identity did not start with being born here in America. I was named after this BEAUTIFUL country Kenya (My Mom uniquely spelled it Keinya but only for American pronounciation weirdness). Growing up with this name has been tough at times yet an honor nonetheless. When I got to college, very few people could pronounce my name correctly so my college sweetheart called me "Keinoo"...(TV Show A Different World Character) 25+ yes later I still use my names but learning of Keino today I am soooooo blessed and honored to have such names with history and dignity. (Keinoo)

@benlangat2082

5 жыл бұрын

Hi

Even if Ryan was told the exact strategy that Keino was planning before the race started I believe the same result would have happened. Jim would have had to change his own training months in advance to prepare for someone throwing down a 58.1-second third lap. Amazing!

@docsmithdc

3 жыл бұрын

Ryun was great but Keno was just better.

@badviper9643

3 жыл бұрын

@@docsmithdc keno was a fantastic runner!

@richardmilliken5651

2 жыл бұрын

@@docsmithdc Keino would've beaten everyone at altitude in the 1500m at mexico. And that includes El G, Coe, Elliott, and Snell!!

@docsmithdc

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardmilliken5651 Likely

As a high school distance runner, I idolized the great runners of Africa. Mirits Yifter, Abebe Bikila, Kip Keino, Wilson Waigwa, Henry Rono, Daniel Komen, Filbert Bayi, and so many others. I was in awe of them and wanted so much to have the talent they possessed. They kept the fire burning....

Unbelievable race. Keino should have gotten all three medals for that run.

@FeiduFeidu

Жыл бұрын

Warum denn das?

I can't get tired of watching this video

Really great this athlete! he went in progression from the first meter, he slowly exhausted them and then he "killed" them with a last lap of 56"!

I wish I could watch the entire Mexico City games. So many legendary performances.

Here's another trivia point you will enjoy.... In this race at the 1968 Olympics, Kip Keino won the 1500 meters gold medal by defeating American favorite and world record holder Jim Ryun by 20 meters, THE LARGEST WINNING MARGIN IN THE HISTORY OF THE EVENT.

@llanleycrowder4033

2 жыл бұрын

Equal to Herb Elliot's winning margin in Rome 1960

@richardmilliken5651

2 жыл бұрын

Ryun had no chance of beating Keino in the 1500m at altitude in the Olympic games at Mexico! Jim would've won the gold medal in the 800m at Mexico!

@CBS70s

5 ай бұрын

You are completely wrong. I DIDN’T enjoy your trivia point.😂

@CaneFu

5 ай бұрын

@@CBS70s LOL, of course not if you were a Ryan fan as I was.

Great win for Keino & a very fast time at altitude. A badly misjudged race by the great Jim Ryun though who was finishing fast but had left himself far too much to do.

Wow! I never watched this again! This dude had so much energy. Just look at the gap he opened for his competitors!

Beautiful.

The Genius Kip Keino - beating someone as good as Ryun by that much is utterly astonishing.

@rc2869

3 жыл бұрын

@Richard Milliken fair play I never knew they didnt race at sea level

@richardmilliken5651

2 жыл бұрын

Ryun beat Keino everytime that they raced at sea level!! Keino ran an unbelievable race at altitude at the 1500m in Mexico! Kip would've beaten anyone from any era in the 1500m at Mexico. And that includes El G., Morcelli, Coe, Snell and Aouti!!

So Jim Ryun and the rest of the field misjudged Keino's determination, ability and the race in general. It appears that Keino was running and the others were thinking too much. A lesson to learn here.

“Ryan got beat tactically” Baloney. He got beat physically

ONE OF MY IDOLS IS KIPCHOGE KEINO

Fantástico Keyno, tremenda marca en 1500m para esa época, Ryun se durmió, pareciera que empezó con miedo, el era el recordista mundial de la prueba para ese entonces.

Six people (as of New Year's Eve, 2016) have voted thumbs down on this video. Not HD enough for you? Or you wish that the Kenyan had lost? Kip Keino slaughters Jim Ryun. Incredible race. Whew.

@ohiorobertstephens

6 жыл бұрын

They were probably looking for a clean version with maybe just the broadcaster calling the race instead of having that audio covering it.

@runcaz7802

5 жыл бұрын

Modern Blues Harmonica: it's because they can't stand the unbiased professional BBC coverage. they would rather have biased North American coverage because that's what they've been pampered with their whole life.

@richardmilliken5651

2 жыл бұрын

Keino would've beaten everyone in the 1500m at altitude at the 1968 Olympic Games in Mexico. And that includes Coe, Elliott, Snell, El G., Aouti, and Morcelli!

This was 1 of the greatest runs in history yes team tactics but the time at that Altitude incredible probably equivalent to about 3:43 or 3;44 mile at sea level Keino 1 of the best ever & great from 1500m-10000m Champion

Ryun complaint in an interview about the Kenyans tactics what a baby. Don’t know what he complaints about he did not even follow the grueling pace like the other athletes including Keino. He actually took the lead even before 2 laps and wasn’t far behind from the very beginning. Ryun actually was the only one that took advantage of the situation the other European athletes were empty with 250 to go. If they don’t do that Ryan would not even finish top 5.

I remember watching this race, Keino ran away with it using a risky strategy of a third lap surge, but he knew what he was doing. Ryan was too far back to catch Keino. Great race and close to WR at altitude.

What a masterstroke! Remarkable: despite front running the race so early, Keino SPRINTED the last quarter in 55 seconds. Ryun didn't make an inch on him on the last lap. 3:37 at this horrible altitude is an outstanding performance by any standards. But 3:34.8! It seems to me that Keino would still cut a good figure today.

What a piece of commentary “ the pace is near suicidal “ just amazing commentator

@lennasser2198

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent, commentator, but he didn’t realize at the time that there was no way Ryun could run any faster at altitude.

My parents named our boxer dog Kip after Keino. He was quick with long skinny legs

No knock on Ryun for this 1968 race: he was not at full strength and Keino run an all-time great race at altitude. But in Munich in 1972 . . . Ryun had no one to blame but himself.

@richardmilliken5651

2 жыл бұрын

@@bfc3057 Wrong!!! Ryun's heel/achilles was stepped on by the runner behind him and he fell down as a result!! I still don't think that he would've beaten Pekka Vasala!!

I love you guys who cannot refute simple and clear statements of facts inevitably stating that you have already addressed them. The scary part is I think you believe it

I read that years later when a Sports Illustrated reporter visited Jim Ryun at his home to write an article about Jim. Jim invited the reporter to have a seat at the kitchen table. As the reporter was interviewing Jim, he kept seeing a silver object hanging on a pencil sharpener that was gleaming from the sunlight. Upon further inspection, he saw that the object was Jim’s Olympic silver medal. That’s how much/little he thought of it.😂

Awesome kenya. The only time i feel proud of my country and its achievements. This created the dominance we have today.

To have any chance, Ryun needed to train at altitude for this race, which he admitted he didn't,

@basantibaksi6

23 күн бұрын

Not true, Ryun did run at altitude in 1968, e.g. near Flagstaff. As I recall, it did not suit him fully.

Wow! Keino is DOMINANT!

"watching live" 14 years old..ABC ....what a moment! Jim McKay screaming....JIM RYUN HAS A LONG WAY TO GO !!!! KIP KEINO!!!!.. AND... THE CHANGING OF THE GUARD!!!

Ryun paced perfectly. He was just no match for Keino in this race.

@erzug

4 жыл бұрын

Keno had a country man rabbit and had trained all year at altitude, so he would certainly have had an advantage over Ryun in that venue.

RUNNING 3:34 IN MEXICO'68 WAS BANANAS. SOME RUNNERS IN THE PRESENT ERA CAN'T EVEN BREAK 3:35! KIP IS THE GREATEST RUNNER OF ALL TIME. HE'S (MJ) OF KENYA IN RUNNING!

@ahjaanhugh

8 жыл бұрын

+Matt Choge For my money the greatest distance runner of all time was Emile Zatopke. At the Helsinki Olympics in 1952 he tripled, winning gold medals in the 5,000, 10,000 and marathon. It has never happened again and in these days of well paid professional athletes it will never happen again. In 1976 at Montreal Finnish distance runner Lasse Viren won the 5 10 and finished 5th in the marathon close but no medal., To Viren's credit he won the 5 and 10 in 1972.

@bconigliaro

8 жыл бұрын

+Hugh May But did Viren take advantage of blood doping?

@ahjaanhugh

8 жыл бұрын

I still remember Viren saying one of the contributing factors to his success was unpasteurized goats milk.

@imchamp4324

8 жыл бұрын

I be,I've that Olympic record stood still 2000 in Sydney as well

@dynamobahamas

8 жыл бұрын

It was a great achievement one that may never happen again in our life time but it was also pre Kenya at the oylmpics games which I think would have made a big difference

I remember my disappointment being immediately washed away by admiration for Kip Keino.... Just tip your cap to him.

Facts are not excuses. Keino ran one of the best races of his life -- an amazingly fast time at such altitude. It is inconceivable that he was having any health issues that hurt him in that race. It is my understanding that Ryun was hindered by his bout with mono but, more importantly, the altitude worked more against him, born and raised at sea level, than it did against Keino. Can you find Ryun's lifetime record vs. Keino? I could not. But I am pretty sure he pretty much dominated Keino

Result 3:34 was impossible for Ryun in Mexico

@richardmilliken5651

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed! Ryun would've destroyed Keino in the 1500m at sea level! Jim would've run 3:29 / 1500m. in LA.

@siypic

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardmilliken5651 Would....... but never did.

Amazing, bold and brave race by Keino. Ryan's strategy should have been simple, stay within ten meters of Keino and win it on the last 300. Whoever told Ryan that he could make up 30 meters in the last 400 against a runner the calibre of Keino was a damn fool. The American distance running coaches got out-coached by the Kenyans in 1968 and by the Finns in 1972.

@richardmilliken5651

2 жыл бұрын

Ryun had no chance of beating Keino in the 1500m at altitude in Mexico!! JIm should've ran the 800m because altitude makes little to no difference at that distance!! Ryun would've won gold in the 800m.

@davewanamaker3690

2 жыл бұрын

You should never lose contact with your rival. Always stay within striking distance. American miler Steve Scott seemed to always run from the back, too.

@soulyrasheed

9 ай бұрын

@@richardmilliken5651 yap, but he did not qualify at U.S. trials at 800m. Wilson Kiprugut would give him 20m handicap and still crush him. Ryun was just too fragile

Jim Ryun completely recovered from mono that spring. Keino had serious health issues too at the same Olympics, suffering from severe stomach pain all summer that caused him to collapse in the 10,000 race prior to the 1500. Ryun even had a 2nd chance in the 1972 Olympics & fell down; at some point we have to quit making excuses for him. Athletes are rarely 100% at big races - most have health issues to deal with. On the days that really counted, Kip Keino won both times despite his problems.

@CaneFu

3 жыл бұрын

@Richard Milliken Munich was definitely Ryan's best chance to beat Keino but bad luck stepped in and robbed us of seeing that race.

@richardmilliken5651

2 жыл бұрын

@@CaneFu Yes, Ryun was still young at 25, but he was past his prime (20 years old when he held set the mile record 3:51.1, 1500m at 3:31.1 and the half mile at 1:44.9 /800m 1:44.2). Coach Timmons burnt Ryun out with insane interval workouts like 50 x 440 yd!! Jim Ryun may have beaten Keino in 1972 at Munich, but he never would've beaten the Flying Finn, Pekka Vasala for the Gold!! It is what it is. Timmons burnt Ryun out at an early age! It's amazing because Ryun was only 25 in 1972 and Keino was 32 in 1972 and Kip walked away with a Gold Medal in the 3000m Steeple and a Silver medal in the 1500m at the 1972 Olympic Games and he received a Gold Medal in the 1500m and a Silver Medal in the 5K at the 1968 Olympic games despite a painful gallbladder that made him drop out of the 10K, but somehow this tough, tough Man carried on and ran the race of his life despite being the ultimate under dog and came through in the "Clutch" before Tom Brady was even born!!

They couldn't beat Ryun that year without this team concept.

@Danny-ks1pb

11 ай бұрын

Wrong

He is Olympic laurel 2016.

Unbeliavable 🇰🇪🇰🇪❤❤

The great Kip and so likable.

I'm sure Ryun regrets his strategy in this race.

@kevinongiri3601

3 жыл бұрын

Most certainly.....The Kenyan strategy worked

@lennasser2198

3 жыл бұрын

Ryun did the best he could at high altitude. It was a shame they selected Mexico City for the 68 Games.

@richardmilliken5651

2 жыл бұрын

Ryun would've blown the doors off Keino if the 1500m was run at sea level!! And Ryun would've won the Gold Medal if he ran the 800m in Mexico!!

With that time Kip Keino might be in the 1,500 Olympic final 2024. This guy was really good.

Took the lead with 2 laps to go the most dominant 1500m I've ever seen

@kenkur27

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, not common to see front runners or early kickers win the big races.

Trail blazer for Kenya's great distance runners.

The great Kip Keino!!

Keino won by 3 seconds! I wouldn't call this a tactical win at all; Keino was "the man" that day given his preparation. I think Ryun was defeated before the gun even went off. For sure he let himself get too far back early on. The Germans put it all on the line. Not sure that Ryun ever did the kind of altitude training that is common today. As I write, a whole bunch of athletes are currently training in St. Moritz (1822m) in final preparation for the 2023 World Championships in Budapest.

Reminds me of Secretariat at the Belmont Stakes. "A tremendous machine".

Ryun was the better miler but never could overcome his Olympic jinx

Here because to TIFO!

keino the legend

From the Bigging We Turff

That is Natalie Temu .....and not Kipchoge K. First Olympic gold medal for Kenya in Mexco city.

Muhammad Ali of the track world!

So now you are down to just defending ONE of Ryun's Olympic efforts; your argument gets weaker everyday. If you googled the website I posted then you KNOW by now Keino was having serious gall bladder problems when he beat Ryun in 1968 by the largest winning margin in the history of the Olympic event. Ryun had physical talent but he just didn't have the mental toughness that Kip Keino had. Everything had to be perfect for Ryun to win but as I stated earlier that is rarely the case in athletics.

@RBB1965

4 жыл бұрын

Ryan's mental toughness was something you or anybody else on this board know nothing about. In fact, both Jipcho & Keino even said if Ben hadn't been in the race Keino wouldn't have won.

@zabaleta66

4 жыл бұрын

@RBB1965 And yet he was, and he won.

So being 17 and making the semis of the OG 1500 meters is a failure and to view it otherwise is making an excuse. In those same 1964 Olympics, at the age of 24, Keino also failed to make the 1500m finals.

I am Jim Ryun - i endorse the greatest ever- kip keino

Jim Ryun had it all to do. Mexico was the altitude games where the cunning Africans got their major breakthrough.

Kip kip Hooray 😃

Has there ever been another big time Track and Field event at the Mexico City Olympic stadium.. Is still there?

@ThePmfan

4 жыл бұрын

Pietro Mennea's 200m world record, which lasted many years, was also at Mexico City in 1979, so the answer is yes.

@richardmilliken5651

2 жыл бұрын

Bob Beamon's 29ft. 2.5 in long jump was incredible at the 1968 Olymoic games!

@CBS70s

5 ай бұрын

@@richardmilliken5651And also at the OLYMPIC games, too!

Not a tactically poor race by Ryun, he was simply outmatched in this situation. Keino was a great runner who has a sensational race. Ryun would have faded badly due to altitude if he had tried to stay with Keino from the gun

@jbarn49

2 жыл бұрын

Keino had altitude training advantage and smarter strategy. He had to be way ahead to beat Ryan's kick. Ryan held back too long, but he couldn't match Keino's time that day no matter what.

poor Ryun had the great misfortune of running in an altitude Olympics. -"World Record holder Ryun had won 47 straight 1500m./miles going into this race and in their previous meetings completely dominated Keino."

@trwent

7 жыл бұрын

Doesn't mean a thing. In track and field, the Olympics are EVERYTHING, and everything else is NOTHING. That is really not fair, but it is just the way it is.

@Yoga-retreatsInfo

5 жыл бұрын

Poor Ryan !! he met a better runner, who ran the perfect race. Ryan had no idea what he was doing.

@jerryedward6758

5 жыл бұрын

With running "win some lose some" races, way life goes

"Ryun was 17 years old in 1964, & tripped and fell in 1972. Ryun peaked early and set half his world records while still a teenager & was all done setting outdoor world records by the time he was 20. MANY runners fell & still got up & finished well including Lasse Viren who fell, got up & went on to win the gold, & set a world record in the same Olympics. Ryun fell during a semi-final & could have got up right away to qualify rather than just laying there acting shocked for several seconds.

@harrykirk7415

5 жыл бұрын

You are one stupid son of bitch, aren't you. I can't stand people that make such idiotic comment and don't understand sport. You failure.

@richardmilliken5651

2 жыл бұрын

CaneFu, we get it, you don't like Jim Ryun and you feel the need to put him down, even though he was the greatest miler of alltime from USA! Lasse Viren fell down in a 10K race and had plenty of time to get back in the race. He also had an edge with all that high-test reindeer blood that he had infused back into his blood system, 2 weeks before the Olympics! Jim Ryun was still injured and suffering the effects from mono when he raced against Keino in the 1500m at altitude in the Olympics in 1968 at Mexico. It would'nt have mattered anyways because Keino would've destroyed a healthy Ryun at altitude! Kip would've beaten anyone from any era on that day in the 1500m at Mexico. And that includes El G., Coe, Morcelli, Aouti, Snell, Aouti, Ingebrigston, Ngeny, and Lagat! Keino was unbeatable at the 1500m on that day! Kip was in the zone of zones!!

@CaneFu

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardmilliken5651 Actually I was a huge Jim Ryun fan at that time and was really disappointed when he fell. But now that I am older and have read more about the events of that time, I see things differently. You don't have to feel so butt hurt about an ex-athlete who doesn't even know you're alive.

So many running faster than 3.40 on that altitude is just amazing. No-one could have beaten Keino on a high altitude track. Remember that 3.34.9 was the second best time ever at that time. Only Ryan had run faster.

I watched this race over and over and other broadcast feeds + US Oly Trial 1500. Ryun ran the same race tactic in the trials as he did in the Oly Finals. But what was worrisome to me was how he was in the 2nd or close to the 3rd lane in those mid-to-later laps, in order to pass the other runners. He lost too much ground and ran a longer race than Keino.

@richardmilliken5651

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody could've beaten Keino in the 1500m. at altitude in Mexico!! And that includes Ingebrigston, Coe and El G.

The incompetent Olympic committee gifted Kip that gold medal.

Jim Ryun as Ron Clarke, a time runner who can't win a great race

@johnSmith-no2wi

8 жыл бұрын

+Marzi Arkell Ron Clarke and Jim Ryun have to apologize to no one for their careers.

I have already covered this but you want to keep rehashing it for some reason. I stand by my original posts on these points.

Won with a severe gall bladder infection. What a beast!

For anyone that may be interested, on RadioLab, a fascinating article about Ryun's And Kips' race in '68. www.radiolab.org/story/runners/

@MsDarkvision

6 жыл бұрын

interesting

@ajoyandbasantibaksi5236

Жыл бұрын

Listened to the whole thing. Many "errors" in the early commentary. (1) Keino is "introduced" as though he was new won the scene in 1968. He competed in the 1964 Olys (1500/5000) and was one of the best 1500m and 5000m runners in the world 1965 through 1967. (2) He was not the first Kenyan to win a (gold) medal in the Olys. Temu won their first gold, and Wilson Kiprugut (800 m) won a bronze in 1964 and a silver in 1968. The real inspiration for African runners was the immortal Abebe Bikila, with his incredible marathon win in 1960, and his smashing - totally overwhelming - victory in Tokyo, six weeks after an emergency appendectomy. The purported superiority of the Kalenjin in long distance running due to genes and/or their initiation rituals is not fully convincing. Finally note that many others from the general area of East Africa have shown greatness. The Ugandans are perhaps the latest, and watching 20 year old Jakob Kiplimo, I cannot help thinking how great he could become in the next few years.

"Ryun..finished 2nd in 1968 despite his health problems" Ryun was completely recovered from mono in the spring of 1968 (documented). Kip Keino had stomach problems all summer (documented) Keino's stomach problems were serious enough to cause him to collapse in the 10,000 shortly before he won the 1500 (documented). Yet you want to deny the facts & insist that Ryun was sick & Keino was healthy. Or excuse Ryun for being too young...or because he fell down...the fact is that Ryun just LOST.

@simonedwards5564

4 жыл бұрын

Ryan got SLAUGHTERED BY A MAN WITH GAUL STONES!!!!!!! TOTALLY DEBILITATING!!!!!! AND RAN THIS WORLD KILLER OF A TIME AT ALTITUDE!!!!!!!! NUFF SAID !!!!!!! EVEN TODAY'S BEST RUÑNERS WOULD STRUGGLE WITH THIS,,,I WONDER HOW" COVET " CRAM OR HICHAMS EL,G WOULD HANDLE A RUN LIKE THIS AT ALTITUDE,,,,WITH GAUL STONES WHICH KIP WAS SUFFERING FROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@richardmilliken5651

2 жыл бұрын

@@simonedwards5564 Nobody from any era would've beaten Kip on that day in the 1500m at altitude in Mexico!! And nobody would've beaten Jim Ryun in 1967 when he set world records in the mile / 1500m, 880 yd /800m at sea level!! If pressed, Ryun could've run 3:45 mile and 1:40.5 for 800 meters!! Ryun's kick was even more deadly than Coes or Wottles as demonstrated at Dusseldorf when he ran the last 100 meters in 11.6 and the last 300m in 35.8 and the last 400m in 49.8 and the last 800m in 1:49.6!!

@siypic

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardmilliken5651 Could have......... but never did.

@luispalacios7412

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely right… He also complaint about the tactics lol he did not follow the pace. Kip followed that fast pace from 300m mark and passed his teammate way before the 800m mark. Kip was much stronger period.

20 years before Nixon Kiprotich burnt himself out for Paul Ereng, the late, great Ben Jipcho does the same for Kip Keino which shows that the Kenyans always knew a thing or two about tactics. A shame for Jim Ryun though. Due to burn out we never saw the limit of his ability. His 1966/67 times for a 19/20 year old were science fiction.

@gunternetzer9621

3 жыл бұрын

@Richard Milliken Someone will always beat them in the end, although it took over 50 years which shows how great Jim was. He often ran and set records on cinder tracks too.

@gunternetzer9621

3 жыл бұрын

@Richard Milliken Richard yes, in an ideal world he should have replaced Timmons and done better quality training. When he made his comeback in '71 he had some good races, but many others were huge disappointments, and he never improved on any of his records. If he hadn't fallen in his heat in Munich '72 I'm not sure he would have beaten Vasala in the final. I think it would have been another silver. There is a very good biography of him on Racing Past racingpast.ca/ and then search.

Keino One - nil ( For all David Coleman fans )

KIP KEINO is my generation's Jesse Owens, he defeated the white supremacist, a day I will never forget as a teenager I was so proud of this African hero.

@billlewis8711

9 ай бұрын

Damn, I'm so glad you're not one of those racists! Lmboff 😝

@user-lb9wj6qy2p

9 ай бұрын

@@billlewis8711 The racist were the sports casters of the 1960s . pushing their white hero all over the news , and Kip crushed the Irish boy from kansas , one of the greatest days of my life , when the African destroyed the gringo in latin america

@user-lb9wj6qy2p

9 ай бұрын

@@billlewis8711 i will watch the race again . when The irish boy runs out of gas

The difference between the Kenyans and the rest is that while others were handing the gold to Ryun and fine with competing for silver, Kip Keino and Ben Jipcho plotted together on how to take Ryun down. Ryun never won that elusive Olympic gold, by the way.

@Yoga-retreatsInfo

5 жыл бұрын

there was no plot

@patrickmukora9767

5 жыл бұрын

..... Kip was not well ... it was a tactical race ,... driven by the Coach Charles Mukora .... and the fact that Ryan had a kick ,,,, so force the pace ....

@jerryedward6758

5 жыл бұрын

Jim in races, "win some and lose some".

@richardmilliken5651

2 жыл бұрын

Altitude ???? Keino would've beaten anyone from any era at the 1500m in Mexico! 55.9 sec for the 1st 400m at altitude is like 53 sec at altitude!! Jipsho forced a suicidal pace at altitude!! Even Kip kept a healthy distance from Ben. Keino ran an incredible race! And Ryun did the best he could at altitude!

"Facts are not excuses." And yet you posted only HALF of them, the half that excuse Ryun for losing this race. "It is inconceivable that he was having any health issues that hurt him in that race" Kip Keino's health condition at that time is well documented if you just research it. Keino was able to rise to the occasion despite health issues, Ryun failed in 3 Olympics. "Can you find Ryun's lifetime record vs. Keino?" I have no idea and don't care as that is irrelevant to this discussion.

Agree on Ryun allowing Kip to run away and same Seb blunder. I still give it to Ryun that he passed enough to gain silver. Until Manzano got silver in London has been the USA gap despite '80 boycott (poor Steve Scott) and drought and failure of Alan Webb.

I was hoping you'd play the music all the way thru

before this date the racists argued that long distance racing was a matter of race; requiring more organization, dedication, and focus than short distances dominated by blacks.

@maxslamer

7 жыл бұрын

And almost 50 years later short distances are dominated by Afro-Americans, Jamaicans and others who have ancestors who were slaves from Africa. While longer distances are dominated by black Africans (and earlier North Africans), including Somalia-born Mo Farah. Maybe there will be a Kenyan winning 100 meters and a Jamaican winning 10 000 meters in the future, but I seriously doubt it. 😉 On the other hand I didn''t expect a Kenyan to become a World Champion in Javelin throw last year...

@cryo9216

7 жыл бұрын

Maccos Cyrus.... and they were right. Once Blacks got organized and started dedicating themselves to training for long distance running they started winning. What's your point, racist?

@kiswahilikitukuzwe2547

5 жыл бұрын

max slamer Kenya won a silver medal in the men's 4 x 400 m relay in Mexico City Olympics in 1968 (featuring Daniel Rudisha) and gold medal in the same event in Munich Olympics four years later in 1972.

@davidkaiser

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxslamer The shorter distances are dominated by people of mixed ancestry. It is interesting that while Africa dominates distance running, it has produced very few top-class sprinters.

Bodo Tumbler...Germany... trained in Flagstaff Arizona...8000 feet

As I can see that Kip didnt wait for Ryun to shake hands, he just run away? What was his goal? To humiliate world record holder? Poor sportsmanship

keino will never be caught......... that was 1968

Great moment in track history. But, as of today I am dropping Twitter and moving to Parler.

Marty...I have a blown foot so stay with me Jim and run 40 yards off the leaders pace...dumbbell!

Keino had a SECRETARIAT type of day.Overall,Ryun was much better.