KEF LS50 Wireless II vs. Buchardt A500

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  • @DarkoAudio
    @DarkoAudio3 жыл бұрын

    *PLEASE READ CAREFULLY* THIS IS A TEST -- With this video, we are trialling a new way of doing things: the comments section below has been switched ON but will be *moderated by a third party*. The upshot? You get to leave a comment below the video and I don't get tied up by comment moderation to stay focussed on making the next video or podcast as well as keeping the Darko.Audio website and Patreon up to date. That means more content for EVERYONE. Our new third-party moderator is under strict instruction not to approve racist or sexist remarks, URLs, (the seeds of) conspiracy theories or the unsubstantiated ramblings of grumpy geezers.

  • @kristofersens7918
    @kristofersens79182 жыл бұрын

    John, you are a great communicator and a joy to listen to, regardless of one's audio knowledge. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with me (us). I truly enjoy your productions. I can't imagine being on the receiving end of KZread comments, but even though it's likely maddening, if I may, a piece of advice, don't let them know they are getting to you.

  • @douglasbrooks2132
    @douglasbrooks21322 жыл бұрын

    Your detailed understanding and expertise are offered in such clear and helpful ways. (Too often high end audio presumes we know as much or should.) Thank you for making the nearly esoteric clear and accessible. Your opinions are honest and are willing to offer a preference without imposing. Thank you for that too. I have learned so much from your videos and you make it darn easy to respect your work. Please carry on.

  • @fidrewe99
    @fidrewe992 жыл бұрын

    People don't seem to appreciate the EQ correction for consistent perceived loudness built into the Buchardt, which makes music have the same tonal balance irrespective of volume. It should be a standard in all speakers, but in fact it's still exceptionally rare. It makes music sound better and more consistent at volumes deviating from the average listening level. Otherwise optimizing the tonal balance for one listening level will lead to suboptimal outcomes at all other listening levels.

  • @arunashamal

    @arunashamal

    Жыл бұрын

    What do you mean rare? B&O had it since the 90s.

  • @edmundgil6008
    @edmundgil60082 жыл бұрын

    Amazing comparison. I like the objective details, as well as your personal feelings about the two. Darko at his cheeky best!

  • @guenthermarschall01
    @guenthermarschall012 жыл бұрын

    I like the way you do your reviewing - quality instead of quantity. Please continue the way. Best. G.

  • @jimji2774
    @jimji27743 жыл бұрын

    Well Mr Darko thank you for letting us comment again. I see questions mostly won't be answered but sometimes commenters have some feedback and experience with products that can be very helpful. Like how you speak to American audiences.

  • @geoffreyschuchardt5350

    @geoffreyschuchardt5350

    2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely. I always read the comments to see what other people think or sometimes to problem solve a niche issue. Was there a reason commenting got limited on this channel? Anyways, I agree with you Richard 👍🏻

  • @martincraven4202
    @martincraven4202 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant review. I bought the KEF's but now want the Bucharest too. Keep up the good work mr Darko

  • @Soundoverload

    @Soundoverload

    5 ай бұрын

    how are the KEFs doing, now a year later...still satisfied?

  • @vega6379
    @vega63793 жыл бұрын

    Yes good and correct approach to reviewing

  • @samgab
    @samgab3 жыл бұрын

    Even the KEF LS50 Wireless II's are out of my price range, let alone the Buchardts! So I got a pair of JBL 308P Mk.II's and a iFi Neo to run them, connected with balanced XLR cables.

  • @sickhcivc
    @sickhcivc2 жыл бұрын

    This answered so many questions I had. like how to connect to a pc, and why the OG wireless cant be updated.

  • @Abraxus34

    @Abraxus34

    Жыл бұрын

    kef dont have exact right connection with pc, cuz they removed usb in this model. its a shame

  • @rainergieringer7600
    @rainergieringer76003 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison. If beside streaming also connecting a turntable, which is better for analog? the KEF has a 3.5 jack vs the A500 had WISA via RCA. thanks a lot

  • @timd7782
    @timd7782 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. I always appreciate your honesty and unbiased opinion. I don't own either of these but I suspect they are both absolutely fantastic. I was biased towards the Bucharts because of Zeos, but I think if I had to pull the trigger, the KEFs would be my pick based on your description of their high end fun factor (and lower price). For many years in the 80's I had big rack systems with Technics and giant Radio Shack Mach One speakers. Now I have the Klipsch the Fives (which I know are not your cup of tea), but now I love the integration and simplicity of built-in matched amps and DACs these days. I will be eagerly awaiting your review of the Klipsch Sevens and the Nines. Will their bigger size win you over? I almost bought the Hi Vi Swan M300 Mark IIs this week to replace my Klipsch The Fives at $900 because of Zeos glowing review of them. But I have decided to wait (unusual for me) to see what Swan, Klipsch, Edifier, SVS or KEF has in mind for their next product release.......The innovation going on with powered speakers these days is truly amazing...

  • @EvertPruis
    @EvertPruis2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks John! After a lot of thought I'm taking the plunge. Buchardt it is! My biggest gripe is that the level of really really good future fi that Mads Buchardt makes basically ends my hobby. No more fiddling with components and interconnects. Just listening, finding new music, enjoying instead of (re)building. Bit of a goodbye, really.

  • @gatobakuniano

    @gatobakuniano

    2 жыл бұрын

    So, after 5 months, how's your experience with the Buchardt?

  • @patriktakacs

    @patriktakacs

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m also curious

  • @tubesticker

    @tubesticker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here

  • @Abraxus34

    @Abraxus34

    Жыл бұрын

    really? what about pre-amp if we need to connect analogue XLR inputs? if we play files from pc? we need at least external dac/preamp (+2-3k usd more) nice XLR cables (+1k usd) and nice usb cable. so this is far away from total end game

  • @rikardekvall3433

    @rikardekvall3433

    Жыл бұрын

    How did it go. Nirvana or not?

  • @guillermoburgosbarroso380
    @guillermoburgosbarroso380 Жыл бұрын

    Sorry, but I have to ask...how do these two compare to the DYNAUDIO FOCUS 10? Since you've reviewed the FOCUS30, maybe you could jump into this comparison? Thanks for the video! Good job!

  • @francescodinucci4828
    @francescodinucci4828 Жыл бұрын

    I would like to see a more interesting comparison between the Kef LS60 and Buchardt A700 from you, since they cost almost the same price

  • @alfredoguadarramam
    @alfredoguadarramam10 ай бұрын

    I do like your attitude and hope could review Buchrdt 10 aniversary

  • @kobymile5453
    @kobymile54532 жыл бұрын

    Hi John, now that you have checked KC62 sub, and since price wise LS50WII + KC62 and Buchardt A500 cost almost the same, which is sonically better?

  • @edwardgrigg4193

    @edwardgrigg4193

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same question!

  • @patriktakacs

    @patriktakacs

    2 жыл бұрын

    I also can’t choose between the two setup. Which would you choose for a near wall situation? A follow up video with the kc62 would be awesome!

  • @akilansakthi3250

    @akilansakthi3250

    Жыл бұрын

    This

  • @carlselway6326
    @carlselway63262 жыл бұрын

    I have KEF LS50 Wireless and am able to run Airplay, Qobuz, Amazon Hd and other apps using the Audio Pro Link1 (99 pounds) feeding into the KEF via a digital cable. So only small reasons to upgrade to Kef Wireless II would be the eArc and slight sound improvements of the II

  • @listrahtes

    @listrahtes

    2 жыл бұрын

    @carl selway Its a great solution but is there no problem with gapless or the range of quality ? Think Audio Pro has 24/96 which should be enough

  • @GeekKeeper
    @GeekKeeper2 жыл бұрын

    Darko, Sir, What is that piece of kit with that black, large round (what I can only describe as) some kind of controller? I currently purchased the A500 Bundle and have seen this in a couple of other KZread videos and we'll, I feel like I'm missing out on something. lol As a relatively new subscriber I really appreciate your video reviews. Nice work, sir!!

  • @deonellis8577

    @deonellis8577

    2 жыл бұрын

    @James Leffew That is a S/PDIF converter, with an Amazon Door Stop (the round silver "controller"-thing) placed on top of the S/PDIF converter...in order to avoid the weight of the cables plugged into the converter pulling it off the table. So, not really missing out on something "technological" which could impact the sound quality.

  • @GChris78
    @GChris783 жыл бұрын

    Great comparism, can you do a review against dynaudio (xeo or Focus) and give us your opinion on the dynaudio approach?

  • @michaelchristensen8350

    @michaelchristensen8350

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great idea. I am looking at KEF's or Dyna Audio Focus 60

  • @m_c_8656
    @m_c_86569 ай бұрын

    "it's Fisher-Price simple" - John Darko ... John is quite the word smith.

  • @keithbill310
    @keithbill310 Жыл бұрын

    Great

  • @taramusichouse
    @taramusichouse3 жыл бұрын

    Hi. I’ve been following you for some time and I’m pleased with the info you provide. I noted that you keep adding some sort of weight on your DAC or transmitter I can provide you with a photo but I’m not sure how to send it to you. Can you please try to explain the weight for me. Kindest regards Ahmed / Malaysia

  • @TheDavo10001

    @TheDavo10001

    2 жыл бұрын

    John mentioned on another video is that the weights are to stop the cables pulling lighter components off the shelf.

  • @TheDavo10001
    @TheDavo100012 жыл бұрын

    Your response to complaints about the KEF wireless I not being supported in the new Kef app is a key reason I have avoided streaming loudspeakers. If I am spending thousands on audio gear, I want the loudspeakers to last a very long time. I prefer passive speakers for this reason. Streaming hardware and DACs age much more rapidly so I’d prefer to be able to swap those out independently from the speakers.

  • @enjoshi-godrez8775

    @enjoshi-godrez8775

    2 жыл бұрын

    You'll never be able to match the sound quality or frequency response of a active dsp calibrated speaker with a passive set up of the same cost. NEVER. That is the reason to buy them.

  • @Abraxus34

    @Abraxus34

    Жыл бұрын

    @@enjoshi-godrez8775 what calibration do you mean if they have xlr analogue inputs so you need anyway to use another one pre-amp dac to put analogue signal into Buchards

  • @teslatalk42069
    @teslatalk420698 ай бұрын

    The Kef are supreme. I’m taking them 10 out of 10 times.

  • @danielpudvay1486
    @danielpudvay14869 ай бұрын

    I know you did a comparison the focus 30 vs bigger Buchardt and KEF’s, but I wonder how the focus 10’s would do against these.

  • @mrkage9279
    @mrkage92792 жыл бұрын

    Hi , I am finally thinking of upgrading my Kef 203 reference, downsizing and get all the new tech but how does the Ls50 wireless 2 compare in sound & stereo imaging? I use Arcam P7 to power my Kef. But I want simplicity now.

  • @gary-kr7dm

    @gary-kr7dm

    2 жыл бұрын

    I auditioned the Kef LS50 wireless 11 with the Kef KC62 sub in my home and liked it so much, I bought them and sold my Hegel H390 and Kef R900 speakers. Best quality is done with Tidal via Roon on my Innuos Zenith streamer though. Quality and imaging is superb. Speaker stands also play a very important role.

  • @brantrosenberger7644

    @brantrosenberger7644

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gary-kr7dm I got a ls50 mk2 pair and am considering the same as your setup with sub . Could you mention the stands you purchased? Thank you

  • @zorrobabouche5419
    @zorrobabouche54192 жыл бұрын

    Hello all, thanks a lot @Darko Audio for your precious work. I have an interesting aditionnal question. Can we compare the buchard A500 + Hub with this combo : LS50 meta + sub Kef kc62 + bluesound powernode 80W. What would be the best choice in terms of sound quality and presence for a 50m2 room ?

  • @sebastianwesterhoff6204
    @sebastianwesterhoff62042 жыл бұрын

    Interesting taste in music. Among others I saw Autechre, Kangding Ray, Morphology...which are in my record case as well. But I'm pretty sure the Morphology doesn't sound like this Trip Hop track in the video. ;)

  • @jimji2774
    @jimji27742 жыл бұрын

    Buchardt A500 is an incredible piece of gear with sky the limit possibilities but right now 07/21 software tunings are a big mess. Thought they would be good to go by now but I was mistaken - lots of bugs being worked out and the interesting tunings reviewers all tried like a year ago are not working. Maybe it will be fantastic in a month or will it be a year ? Sorry not a put down of a great designer and product but if not fixed in my 45 day trial I will send mine back.

  • @JuhoLankila

    @JuhoLankila

    2 жыл бұрын

    How'd it go, any place with more info about these bugs? I'm looking to maybe get a pair and ur comment seems to be the only mention of such problems

  • @fakamada

    @fakamada

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JuhoLankila Let me join you as a reminder to Jim. Maybe he sees a the notification this time around. I am not a Buchardt user or anything btw.

  • @bryancasler

    @bryancasler

    10 ай бұрын

    A500 owner that got in just over a couple years ago. The software issues have been worked out, only thing to be mindful of is you really do need to keep 5ghz signal sources away from the speakers/wisa hub, it actually does interfere. We moved a router 20 feet away from both and that solved the last issue. Importantly, two years on they bring me SO much joy. No regrets except maybe not getting the A700’s because I love the way they look too and no stand can compete.

  • @rca6576

    @rca6576

    6 ай бұрын

    @@bryancasler This helped me decide a bit as I want to like the Kefs but, I find them bright. I am really thinking the A500 are a better fit for me but, wow, they are not cheap.

  • @wataki_watcheswatakiwatche3160
    @wataki_watcheswatakiwatche31603 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Big fan of music system that has unfortunately wained over time. Got tired of systems not keeping up to modern era. I find I just stream these days. Pro’s and con’s to that. I have a naim system that doesn’t see the light of day since my kids rammed their cars into my neat petite’s. Went out and got a Sonos system, but frustrated with wifi only signal, and sound quality ok but not great. Hence looking for the modern hifi equivalent, with flexibility. Found the Buchardts and wanted to know more, hence finding your channel. Going to look now if you have compared the linn’s...

  • @scrameck
    @scrameck3 жыл бұрын

    John, taking about gear you have already tested at home, if you had to pick up only one set, for almost the same budget, what’s your selection between HEDD type 20 and the A500 ? Thank you

  • @kobymile5453
    @kobymile54533 жыл бұрын

    I am a wannabe audiophile with a limited budget. While KEF is readily available locally, buying anything other is international import, hefty shipping and tax payments. Can someone help me choose between these three - 1. KEF LS50W II + KEF Kube 12b 2. Budchardt A500 3. KEF R3 + Marantz PM6006

  • @nte2336

    @nte2336

    2 жыл бұрын

    Buchardt pays for shopping and import tax

  • @Abraxus34
    @Abraxus34 Жыл бұрын

    the only shame for KEF is that they removed usb-b connection, so now i cant use my pc right to kernel audio playing music using my foobar/ and I dont understanbd why do you recommend topping usb device if it has only one rca digital coaxial output but we need 2 to connect each speaker

  • @mitchellbaumgartner9668
    @mitchellbaumgartner9668 Жыл бұрын

    If u,ad the,kef,kc62 sub it adds 1500 us making both speakers same cost and the kefmwouldmgo to 7 ha way below 20hz and the miss open more also

  • @jayeshpatel9502
    @jayeshpatel9502 Жыл бұрын

    To give any speaker justice, you would have to listen with a subwoofer in my opinion.

  • @as-wl1uy
    @as-wl1uy3 жыл бұрын

    KEF la50 wireless II t's comparable to the sound of Tannoy gold 8?

  • @LOCOMAN

    @LOCOMAN

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes i wanna know that also cause I have Tannoy gold 8?

  • @Coldgecko
    @Coldgecko3 жыл бұрын

    Ok read your warning and get it. Hahaha. So I am a zero audiophile. I just like music. Moving on... I have owned a ton of B&W speakers... I saw another review for the B&W Formation Duo who raved about it. I read tons of reviews that they drop out ... I am in the market for an active streaming bookshelf -- ok, so Keff, Buchardt or B&W. Impossible to know best until someone does the comparison. Thats why most reviews are not of value. Anyway, I get your point and you have a great cadence to your videos -- and better yet -- video imagery is awesome. Thanks.

  • @as-wl1uy
    @as-wl1uy3 жыл бұрын

    A question John. The KEF LS50 Wireless II evolution is absolutely impressive, technically and I know that the sound is so good. But, why not buy active speakers with lower prices, TANNOY 7 Gold and 8 Gold cost only 600 USD pair, ill manage the wireless connection with a dac streamer that cost only 400 USD.

  • @limftw1565
    @limftw15653 жыл бұрын

    With the budget of buchardts a500s, I could get the Kefs + 2x SB 1000 Pro subs. (and with the buchardt I can only connect WISA subs, not sure if even 2) I might compare both combinations soon... :O

  • @JuhoLankila

    @JuhoLankila

    2 жыл бұрын

    Any news? Did you get to compare

  • @kobymile5453

    @kobymile5453

    2 жыл бұрын

    Please do the comparison between Kef + KC62 vs A500.

  • @kesm66
    @kesm662 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant…otherwise you’ll be drawn into defending your reviews all day by folks considering to purchase the gear. There’s really only one way to know…on a personal level…buy it and try it for yourself and draw your own individual conclusions.

  • @xtriple000x
    @xtriple000x2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Darko, love your work, thanks for all you do. HiFi Unrelated comment here. But I'd be okay if your editor stopped taking the time to try and track the names of products on to a live action non-locked-off shot. Pretty personal here, but I just don't think it's worth the time.

  • @richardzedman1160
    @richardzedman11603 жыл бұрын

    why are they called wireless when they have more wires than normal speakes lol

  • @Paprika526

    @Paprika526

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because of the internal streamer

  • @listrahtes

    @listrahtes

    2 жыл бұрын

    you want them to offer less options? You can use them with just current plugged in streaming everything.

  • @kobymile5453

    @kobymile5453

    2 жыл бұрын

    The same reason why you cannot eat Apple products :p

  • @keithbill310
    @keithbill310 Жыл бұрын

    crap

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