My first thought: Jungleman woke up 5 minutes before this interview.

@Stefanburakov

Ай бұрын

Man.. he is like me, he never wake up and in the same time he is so more awake then 99.999%

Im a casual onlooker to poker, i used to be obsessed in 07 to 2011. So i just occasionally poke my head in to see whats going on. But the last few years ive noticed poker has gained a lot of popularity. Like im seeing it more and more in settings i wouldnt expect to see it, streams i happen to see get a lot of increasing attention, can just tell a LOT of people want to play it. If only it became widely legal in the states and easy to play online, i think it would be a golden time for online poker. Again.

Appreciate your work Jungle ❤

What I see a lot in 4bet live poker is that people with AK who miss the flop just shove, because they have no idea what to do.

@kylecannarile7161

Ай бұрын

That's why a live $1k buy in is considered the same skill level as a $50 or less online

@genesises

Ай бұрын

@@kylecannarile7161 when i started getting into poker like 2 years ago, i found it absurd to see some plays being made from live recs - studying amateurs in 1/2 online have a better sense for the game than this lol

Keep it going jungle

Thanks from Singapore Jungleman. Big fan...

Great episode wish it was longer :D

i remember when on FT low / mid stackes in a 5k runner field they 4b all in K8o 50 bb 5 y ago

I am too excited for this!!

Thank u jungle n thanks Ben

online poker is simple when you understand the underlying muscles and tendons and layers of the face of poker

@derekw1267

Ай бұрын

you're lowkey a psychopath. who talks like that

@tomek3210

25 күн бұрын

Online poker is event more simple when you hide your results and tell everybody how big winner you are. Bencb story.

@rickyf3628

24 күн бұрын

​@@tomek3210he's posted his results

this is very interesting. I mostly just play for fun, but ive played over 20 years and i can pretty regulary go deep into mtts and usually avoid making any massive blunders and a lot of his thought processes are very similar to mine, just obviously on an entirely different level. i delved into gto a bit years ago when i was trying to take poker more seriously and i swear i was having the worst result of my life when i was just trying to make "gto approved plays."

@genesises

Ай бұрын

yeah you shouldn't "play gto". that doesn't work unless you are playing against a gto bot. also if you already have confidence in your style of play you are gonna play worse regardless of what you are trying to apply. gto is pure theory, poker played by humans is not. having the theoretical understanding becomes useful if you can actually play a consistent strategy over a LONG time, and judge your opponents appropriately. going relatively deep in lower stakes MTT's is mostly down to folding when you don't have it and never bluff off your stack - most of the field is going to play themselves out due to impatience or just being bad.

@AC-wl7ve

Ай бұрын

@@genesises absolutely, i always try to play balanced as well and i have a pretty good understanding of ranges and which spots are good to bluff or not. from there i just try to take notes of what my opponents are doing and play a bit more exploitive. against certain opponents (especially at lower stakes) the "gto approved plays" are just going to put you in a ton of spots you dont want to be in.

@pugsnhogz

Ай бұрын

@@genesises I agree, but sometimes you just have to bluff off your stack ;)

Nice strat heavy episode

Two Goats!

Nice!

2 legends

Often times i play K6s in his honour 😂

Love ya Jungleman

I'm not saying he isn't a great player. But counting total winnings is kind of silly. Profit/time is the metric that matters. Heck Negreanu has been getting soaked for years now. But his total winnings have been pretty high.

@jimduggan8382

Ай бұрын

its rude to ask for actual profit so giving the total winnings has at least some value

@FriendsForFriends666

Ай бұрын

Daniel is losing money cause he's playing over his league not with Sammy or matussow etc.

@User_aa123

Ай бұрын

Ben has his profits posted on his twitter

@Joshezellentrepreneur

Ай бұрын

WSOP is just one series, and grinding it for POY is tough. Those numbers play out for almost everyone.

@genesises

25 күн бұрын

@@jimduggan8382 while some think that, its lying to claim total winnings is reflective of skill or success especially in a game like poker

15" POKER HAAAAARRRRDDD

great interview! what did Ben say about the FBI in the beginning? didn't catch that.

@benjaminlopez9662

Ай бұрын

Black Friday department of justice seized his funds

@Leinsterken

Ай бұрын

@@benjaminlopez9662why?

@benjaminlopez9662

Ай бұрын

@@Leinsterken Google “poker Black Friday” online poker shut down in America for everyone.

@pugsnhogz

Ай бұрын

@@Leinsterken look up "poker black friday"

@gscgold

15 күн бұрын

​​@Leinsterken Because of Black Friday They shut down all online poker sites in the United States I lost everything I had on poker stars and Full Tilt as well, didn't have a lot but still, I never saw that money again along with most people.

Tooop content

Jungle, somewhere I saw you with almost shaved head, like 7mm of hair and I thought it suited you very well, have you thought about that look?

@daniellc11

Ай бұрын

think ill fix my hair actually

@DragonballG.

Ай бұрын

That Patrick Antonius

1st & Foremost....Fcuk Jokerstars!! 2nd...... really good video and Ben was a very interesting & educational guy to listen to thanks!

👍🏼

We need to talk about the real roi% that is achievable not how poker is easy and soft and all this nonsense. The realistic and achievable roi% is what really determines if a game is soft or not. For example if you can achieve 30% longterm, that means the game is really easy and most importantly there will be less swings and you will get to realize that winrate faster. On the other hand if 5% is achievable, that is a nightmare game, because even if on paper it is profitable, but the swings long-term can last 5k+ tournaments and that means years of practically gambling. I personally and ethically wouldn't suggest anyone to play poker for a living like this, maybe playing on the side. Please Ben stop telling lies to promote your business.

Here because BenCb is getting heating on twitter. I love how Bonomo is at the forefront of criticism but is also a known cheater? The moral police can’t even control themselves lol

Btw, its not recommended to keep your entire roll on a poker site even today 😂

Is Mr Cates broke?

@ghostbr9136

Ай бұрын

MR Cates is never broke

@PopTartLee

Ай бұрын

@ghostbr9136 what about bencb....I watch his streams doesn't seem $35,000,000 is possible.....need to see his tax returns.....lol.hahaha.

Ben, you're wrong about the early stages of tournaments. That's why you end up near bubble with 15bbs. People gamble more in early stages and make silly bets to accumulate chips. So many thin profitable calls you're missing when you're 24tabling. I guess it's a streaming/entertainment thing to make it to at least one final table per stream but I feel it's -ev.

@user-hx8rk8nt2y

Ай бұрын

Who the eff are you lol tryna give Ben advice

@FriendsForFriends666

Ай бұрын

@@user-hx8rk8nt2y anyone who's above taking advice is more than lost forever. Also, when working 8 hours, you work 100% for 8 hours, not scratching your @@s for 6 of them and if you make it deep by coinflips take it seriously. Just a thought from a nobody lol

@cheekibone117

Ай бұрын

@@FriendsForFriends666 You know he made millions playing poker right. But true, I also think streaming and playing that many tables is -ev

@FriendsForFriends666

Ай бұрын

@@cheekibone117 true, he made millions playing the best poker he could. I just don't think 24 tabling can sustain anywhere close the quality that made him profitable against the top players and with so small edges. Missing on early spots is detrimental in this scenario. But I do wonder what will be his performance if he's focusing on one table while the other 8 players play 24 tables. I believe he knows the answer as well.

@freakinElvis

Ай бұрын

In my view I will float-ev calls mid game because in a 5 hour tournament if I get lucky I will become big stack if I lose it’s just another day and I put the whole thing in the rear view mirror. I choose my spot when to float and close my eyes

The multitable problem: Ben has an interesting hand on table 4,6,8,13,14,17,20. I'm sitting on table 24 at middle position with 80bbs. Ug raises from 30bbs, ut+1 reraises from 25bbs and I shove 80bbs pre. You're sitting on sb with 44s and 50bbs. What do you do? Well, previous hand you missed cause you're playing the hand on 7 tables was between utg vs me where he shoved a6off and I called with aas and lost to a 6 high straight. Now you might want to rethink how strong are your 44s.

@genesises

Ай бұрын

maybe he's more into maximizing money/time over money/hand ^^

@genesises

Ай бұрын

also while i'm not the best player, folding 44 in that spot doesn't seem to require too much player specific context to make up your mind, 2 players to act behind with 1 allin

@CARPital

Ай бұрын

As long as people post stuff like this i will play poker

@FriendsForFriends666

Ай бұрын

@@CARPital I thought we lost you. Thank god you're still around. 😂😂😂

@FriendsForFriends666

Ай бұрын

@@genesises exactly. In a vacuum. On that table though the context is very obvious if you pay attention and not 24tabling.

IRS here, we’re still waiting for those tax returns.

@adragonro

Ай бұрын

Waitt where is my taxback? I lost last year😅

Is it just me or Ben sounded as outdated bad reg 😮

There were studies done that proved online poker is completely rigged. Players investing heavily might be favoured but the average player never wins long term no matter how well they play.

@loganehewett9807

Ай бұрын

I've freerolled up to about 2 million since 2008

@Tom_Bee_

Ай бұрын

Lol no

@FriendsForFriends666

Ай бұрын

I would love to see those studies. Any chance you can give us a link or something? Out of the blue however, I'll disagree. Also laugh at the 2million freeroller over here. Who are you, jesus scammer ferguson? It's difficult yes, takes ages of study yes, needs maximum emotional control yes and yes you have to be a genius on top. If any factor is less than it should you're going broke over long run. No way around this. Sure, sites have huge incentives to have bots and rigged rngs. Bots have been proven to be real (after years of screaming about them now they lost their money they care. When it was yours they said you need to buy a course) and there is an open conversation on rngs. Nothing is proven about them as far as I know. The full tilt days are over folks. I wish they weren't. I miss gus.

@LastUltimo

Ай бұрын

@@FriendsForFriends666thanks a lot for the comment man!

@AC-wl7ve

Ай бұрын

i do remember watching a video a long time ago where a guy took data from hundreds of thousands of hands and found that that odds were very skewed when it came to late stages of a tourney or the higher stack player usually being favoured to win a flip. who knows if its really like that, but it would kind of make sense to have something coded in that is just moving games along faster, getting more money moving so ultimately they make more rake.