About P.T. Barnum and Jenny Lind (The opera singer) there is NO EVIDENCE that they had any type of innaproppriate relationship in real life. She wanted to stop the tour because she was tired of life on the road after doing 93 concerts in America and she was actually a great person and wanted to open a girls' music school in Stockholm, the city of her debut. I think is very interesting that they made P.T. Barnum a much better person than he actually was, but vilanized Jenny Lind, who was actually good...

@pascaleand0r

10 ай бұрын

Definitely part of the movie’s absolute rewritings of what happened. While “based on a true story” movies do take some liberties, this movie is total fabrication. Like it’s bs. Some events happened. But the gists of it? Not at all what happened.

@mckenzie.latham91

10 ай бұрын

She also in real life hated PT Barnum and quit because she found him horrid and an abuser of his workers She publicly trashed him multiple times

@peterlewis2178

10 ай бұрын

@@pascaleand0r It's actually kind of genius. It's a fake spectacle selling him as a hero, which is precisely what P.T. Barnum was actually all about.

@bippolhdt4730

9 ай бұрын

It sucks so much. People don't like her character which also makes people not like her solo because they think she's a homewrecker and saying she wants more and nothing is enough

@hannahmontana9307

9 ай бұрын

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Let’s be honest here. You can’t watch this movie and say that the soundtrack isn’t amazing.

@19Rena96

10 ай бұрын

You can if it's not your type of music.

@wombat4583

10 ай бұрын

I like the music but I understand all the complaints that modern movie musicals act less like musicals and I do also find it annoying.

@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive

10 ай бұрын

facts

@kerilowell70

10 ай бұрын

@@19Rena96even if it’s not your type of music I’m sure under some level everyone can appreciate that it’s a good soundtrack. My fiancée’s not a huge musical fan but he really liked the songs and he likes the movie now

@angelinabonett9186

10 ай бұрын

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The best part of this movie was the soundtrack, in my opinion. Long after I'd forgotten the plot and characters, I was still singing along with the tunes.

@krose6451

10 ай бұрын

Same

@GhostOfNevermore

8 ай бұрын

I can't escape seeing your comments everywhere, lol. I guess we have similar interests.

Also just an example of how horrible Barnum actually was: when his black wetnurse died, he had people pay to see her autopsied

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

Not to mention being a slave owner.

@blainevanity6

10 ай бұрын

Wtf

@tonzyjc

10 ай бұрын

😮

@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive

10 ай бұрын

that's horrible

@AlastorsShadowDemon

10 ай бұрын

A one time only performance. He paraded her as the oldest person alive, 161 years old and worked for George Washington, when she was between 80/90 when she died.

Barnum, in real life and lightly touched on in the film, was a con man and slaver. Most of the people who performed for him, he purchased and abused. He lied, exaggerated, forged. The Fiji mermaid being a prime example. Jenny Lind worked with him briefly and left the tour because she found him appalling, specifically how he treated the people who made him rich. She spoke out against him and I can only imagine how disgusted she would be by this portrayal of her. He didn’t invent the circus but he did create the three ring circus format specifically with the inclusion of the the freak show. Another thing that bugged me in this film was the line about “they’re laughing anyways, might as well get paid” was said by the actual actor of Tom Thumb but they gave it to Barnum. Now freak shows as a whole, I’m kinda down for so long as autonomy and control stays with the “freaks”. The history is marred due to the severe oppression faced by the people involved. On one side, it’s a ways people with disabilities or abnormalities were able to survive and even gain wealth and freedom in a time where the other options was homelessness or abusive institutions. On the other side, it was birthed from and popularized by the oppressors exploiting them for money.

@mckenzie.latham91

10 ай бұрын

Barnum was also involved in the Titanic disaster, his company and financing skimped on building materials which was determined to have been a factor in some part of the sinking

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

@@mckenzie.latham91 Do you have a reference for this? Harland & Wolff a British company along with White Star Line also British built the Titanic. How was Barnum involved?

I have to admit that one of the things I find most annoying about this film is the fact that Jenny Lind was a famous soprano known throughout her time as “the Swedish nightingale” and was very well known for her high notes, especially her high F sharp, which Mendelssohn featured no less than 23 times in the same piece written for her. And this movie decided to make her nothing remotely similar to a soprano. It might be stupid, but it just irks me… a lot.

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

I agree, it bothers me a bit as well. She was a Coloratura soprano. As much as I enjoyed Loren Allred's performance, it was not operatic. Hans Christian Anderson's "The Nightingale" was a tribute to her and is how she got that nickname. All the composers of the time new her. It was said that she even sang to Chopin while he was dying from tuberculosis.

@VicNyke92

10 ай бұрын

@@nightfall902 Definitely. I’m not saying it should be fully operatic, but something along the line of Phantom of the Opera’s Christine? And it’d been a nice change from all the other Singers in the film. But hey, I guess we can’t ask much from a film which presents Barnum as a more or less decent human being (or at least tries to).

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

@@VicNyke92 That's the most annoying part. In Lind's case, the only reason Barnum had any interest in her at all was for her fame, which was her operatic voice. Lind knew Mendelson. Chopin, Verde and others...some even composed just for her voice. The one amazing talent this woman had and they didn't even try to include it. Better to make her look like a greedy tramp.

@AidynNyx

10 ай бұрын

What irks me more is the fact that her and Barnum purely had a professional relationship and nothing more and the movie taints her reputation horrifically. Like I don't particularly care about how they portrayed Barnum, whatever it was fine but it was completely unnecessary to do that to Jenny Lind for literal no reason at all.

@VicNyke92

10 ай бұрын

@@AidynNyx Absolutely. The powers that be decided to give Lind one single facet - the woman who tries to destroy Barnum’s marriage (oh, and also considers the rest of the acts beneath her) in opposition with Barnum’s wife, who’s the perfect woman. How funny, is it not, that the woman with a profession is the “overly” ambitious one who doesn’t care about Barnum being married and the one presented as decent is the woman in the traditional role? Am I reading too much into it?

The singer who dubbed Jenny Lindt's singing voice (it's not the actress) auditioned for Britain's Got Talent and sang Never Enough because she wanted to put a face to her voice finally. She was hired as a reference vocalist but the actress said "you should sing. I will lip sync"

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

As pleasant as Loren Allred's voice is, she in not a coloratura soprano and the song was not operatic in the least. I saw that episode of AGT.

@hannahmontana9307

9 ай бұрын

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@theblackluna7883

9 ай бұрын

@@nightfall902 Still an amazing singer tho...

As much as i like the soundtrack i wish they would’ve created a fictional character instead of completely revamping the monster that pt barnum really was

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

Excellent point. Barnum was 60 before ever getting into the circus game. Not a single shed of this is accurate in the least.

@krose6451

10 ай бұрын

Agreed

@hannahmontana9307

9 ай бұрын

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I agree, I detested how much they tried to make Barnum look like the good guy, and sanitised him to make him look better, ignoring his less desirable traits from real life.

@d-1381

10 ай бұрын

He was so bad they couldn't even make him look good in a movie that tries so hard to portray him better.

@kathyastrom1315

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, no mention of the real Barnum owning a slave just to exhibit her, nor the “mermaid,” none of that. My favorite story of the real guy was his way to get people to move through his museum faster-he put up signs reading, “This way to the Great Egress!” And people would rush to see it, only to find themselves outside, having gone through the exit door, aka, the egress.

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

@@kathyastrom1315 No mention of his political career either. He served 2 terms in the Connecticut legislature and served as the mayor of Bridgeport for a while. While in the legislature he did vote to ratify the 13th amendment (anti-slavery) even after having been a slave owner himself. Born a con man and stayed one his entire life.

@fernglade

10 ай бұрын

And then quoted him at the end of the movie as if he was some wise, respectable person to look up to...

@hannahmontana9307

9 ай бұрын

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I couldn't seperate this movie from PT Barnum. The man was an absolute monster who enslaved those people and ruined their lives. I saw this with a friend, and I was like "why can't they just make him a completely fictional character who starts a nice circus where everything is kosher?"

@madeleinereads

10 ай бұрын

Same. The real P.T. Barnum was a terrible person.

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

As evil as Barnum was, many of the "freaks" became famous and were able to have much better lives because of the circus. Not that Barnum planned it that way. He exploited anyone and everyone but he did not abuse the performers. He needed them.

@besupaaa

10 ай бұрын

Yeaahhhh that's why I didn't even want to watch this movie to begin with.

@krose6451

10 ай бұрын

For me building up Barnum was bad but far worse was how they took people who were by accounts far better than Barnum and put them into roles in this story to be looked down on. Most people ended up hearing that this wasnt an accurate portrayal of the circle and its common enough that historical figures are built up that I guess I just cant get too worked up over it even if I dislike what was done (they really should have just fictionalized everything) but to potray James Gordon Bennett (the reporter) and Jenny Lind (the opera singer) when most people have never heard of them and most audience for this never heard how dirty this film did them, pisses me off.

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

@@krose6451 I agree with the thought that it should have been fictionalized....but...there is no possible way to make this film and not assume it's Barnum. Jenny Lind was very religious and world renown...but not to well know here in the US. Hans Christian Anderson was in love with her and wrote "The Nightingale" as a tribute to her (how she got the nickname). Mendelson, Chopin, Verde all knew her and even wrote songs for her. As I said elsewhere. She was 29 and Barnum was 60 there was no relationship of any kind.

In real life Jenny Lind (the opera singer) HATED Barnum. Like she truly couldn't stand him and was reluctantly working with him. The fact this movie made her a would-be-mistress is just blatant disrespect. When added on to the fact that they've changed the story so much just to make PT Barnum the 'good guy', they may as well have just change his name too.

@bulletsandbracelets4140

10 ай бұрын

I don't like what they did to his/her characters, but this doesn't seem to be true.... she quit the tour bc she didn't like his advertising, but they parted ways amicably and both made a bunch of money (which she did donate). She had her own issues though, as did most people at this time period... people seem to like narrating in the opposite direction too since it, I guess, makes it look worse for him. he was bad enough without needing it though

@nix_

10 ай бұрын

@@bulletsandbracelets4140 Oh, sorry. I got this info from somewhere else. I guess they were misinformed then. Thanks for telling me!

@hannahmontana9307

9 ай бұрын

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I wasn't expecting a Movie Budz video today, but I am very happy to see it. 😅 By the way, Jennie Lynn was an actual person, didnt chase after a married man, she quit Barnum tour in protest for how he treated people, and she was actually a huge philanthropist. Basically, how the writers portrayed her, an actual person, was the exact opposite of how they portrayed P.T. Barnum, an actual person who was bloody awful. Just insult upon injury for Jennie Lynn.

@henninggirl261

10 ай бұрын

can't wait for the musical about a whimsical hotel proprietor named H.H. Holmes who builds a "fun house" of a hotel with mysteries and excitement around every corner.

@VforVendettas

10 ай бұрын

@@henninggirl261 Oh my God, you just gave the worst person an idea. Coming to a theater near you in 2026.

@henninggirl261

10 ай бұрын

@@VforVendettas oops.

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

Jenny Lind quit after 93 concerts for Barnum (finished the US tour) ...she simply got tired and Barnum kept on pushing for more. After leaving the circus she carried on for another year on her own before retiring. She was 29 when Barnum hired her, he was 60.

@BewareofBordome

10 ай бұрын

Jennie Lynd's portrayal is what lowkey makes me believe in ghosts. Only the Petty Spirit of PT Barnum himself could influence not only a movie that made him look like a misunderstood underdog, but that painted her as a red-headed vixen specifically.

The Irish Giant is such a sad story, i actually did some research about it for school. He had a rare disease which made him extremely tall, which ofcourse wasn’t yet known at the time. He lived until about 23 and before he died he told his friends he wished to be buried at sea so scientists couldn’t steal his body to dissect and experiment on it. Sadly one of his friends betrayed him and sold his body to the famous John Hunter. His skeleton was then put on display at the museum up until last year. The Hunterian Museum still wants to keep his skeleton in depot tho, for ‘medical research’. So to this day he still can’t rest

@hannahmontana9307

9 ай бұрын

Mmmmmmmmmmm lD BTS BSswwJSsww

@CallMeSkinny

7 ай бұрын

Makes me sick to think about. 😞

@dylancole1910

6 ай бұрын

That is sad.

Barnum is far worse in real life, I remember researching the history after watching this movie and it was...a lott. However, this movie as a movie is fun, the music is awesome and the shot decisions are great. I definitely think taking this as entirely fiction is the best route to go, it does show the path to ego and greed fairly well though. My favourite song is probably from now on or on the other side, most of the songs are great though. The storytelling's awesome too, so glad you guys reacted to this!

@hannahmontana9307

9 ай бұрын

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The eye roll when Hugh carried Zac out of the burning building absolutely sent me

@hannahmontana9307

9 ай бұрын

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Fun fact: the only one in real danger of alcohol poisoning in the bar scene is Zac Efron’s character. Barnum never actually drinks his shots until after Efron’s character agrees to join him, then he starts throwing down shots. It’s fun to rewatch the scene and watch how he dodges taking his shots lmao. He’s too busy getting Efron’s character drunk enough to agree to join him.

Also I love that Zac Afron still finds ways to bring his singing and dance background and legacy into more roles His career has been something i've been quite impressed with.

@dylancole1910

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree with that. While Highschool Musical was entertaining at best it really wasn’t my thing at the time despite it being a point of obsession with my two younger sisters and my mother. When we were kids we had one big tv in the living room and no iPads or iPhones or iPods to watch anything on until mid- middle school. We had to watch everything together, meaning that if one of us wanted to watch something different than the other two, guess who wasn’t watching shit if they couldn’t deal with it. So I must have watched those films a million times over the course of my childhood. I only developed an appreciation for it later in life when he started branching out and doing other roles that weren’t Disney or musical related. His career has been a diverse amount of roles and showcased his talent solidly and now when I look back on those annoying musical movies especially after I watched this movie I don’t feel as annoyed or embarrassed to admit I enjoyed it and admire the start to his career. He’s one of those actors that has now done almost everything when it comes to range in tv and movies. I think this is true for a lot of Disney actors though, for the ones that moved on, you don’t need to like their early starts to fame to appreciate the talent that got them where they are today.

@dylancole1910

6 ай бұрын

I apologize to anyone who read that stream of consciousness. Yes there is an entire sentence in there with no punctuation. I’m way too lazy to fix it at the moment though. you get what I was saying. Even if you ran out of breath reading it in your head. Sorry. 😂

Well speaking of interracial/intercultural dating, I myself am dating a white man (8 years togther). Before I didn't care what people said to me about being Mexican and dating a white man. Now that I graduated with a bachelor's in Chicano Studies, a lot of my classmates would tell me I'm dating a soldier whose a colonizer from America and he brought me from Mexico. "It's just a joke Kelli 🤣" 🙄no, it's not that's disgusting

@ladyorapma

10 ай бұрын

Your classmates seem to be assholes.

@mckenzie.latham91

10 ай бұрын

There seems to be a huge problem with people who once exposed to the dark parts of our histories, over compensate to try and deal with that But they end up removing all human interaction and activity as a result.

@kellimagana1480

10 ай бұрын

Well said.@@mckenzie.latham91

@kellimagana1480

10 ай бұрын

I hate to say this but I'm used to sayings like these and I shouldn't be.@@leuglyartist

@bethanychatman9531

10 ай бұрын

People are assholes.

I really want to know why they did this to Jenny Lind. She didn't even like Barnum. She did end up continuing the tour on her own without him.

Lovely video as always! I laughed so hard at "Oh f*ck off Hugh, you stupid whispering b*tch!" 😂

Zack’s character in this movie is Soo good! He has a better head on his shoulder than the main character which is realistic bc of the lives they lived

@bethanychatman9531

10 ай бұрын

To a point, he really thought the blk woman he was harassing could stop racism if she'd just give him a chance and love him enough.

@hannahmontana9307

9 ай бұрын

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Swede here and a fun fact is that before we changed the look of our currancy to what er have now, Jenny Lind was the face of our 50 krona note. A drawing of her on stage was on the back.

@HBoyle

10 ай бұрын

Oh that's so cool!! Sorry what this movie did to her. She deserved better

@TheRealVixie1337

10 ай бұрын

@@HBoyle yeah from what I red they never even met so yes they did

"Fuck off you, you stupid whispering bitch!" - Sam ❤😂❤ I would have loved seeing this with Jack Black playing the main character. I agree with Stef that the music really integrates naturally with the scenes. I bet I will get some replies about this because so many love the soundtrack, but I feel weird about the music in this musical. I like the songs and they go well with scenes, but I sort of forget them once they are done. I am definitely not an aficionado of musicals, but have seen a number of film ones and some in theater. This is the only musical I can ever remember *not* thinking about (and likely humming) at least one song after I finish watching it. I don't know why, but these songs just don't stay with me. The visuals, the vibe, and, to a certain extent, the message of the story is what caused me to rewatch the film a couple times. I am glad you commented on Barnum being an asshole so much. I have noticed the older I get, the less I am willing to tolerate main characters that are awful people. I feel like I am always more interested in the side characters nowadays. I think most Americans, even though they don't know many details, do have a general negative opinion of these traveling circuses because the mistreat of animals and performers has been known since nearly their creation. People have just cared about it more in recent decades.

That last comment about the whisper singing was gold. I agree that, while this movie was fun, it's unfortunate that they felt the need to base it on real people when the story so loosely reflects reality. Unfortunately, I think that sometimes studios want to latch onto an easy hook for movies, and the "based on a true story" is probably one of those hooks that helps in a pitch meeting.

@hannahmontana9307

9 ай бұрын

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58:14 "The development of their relationship was just like, looks of desire" this! I don't think Ive ever heard this kind of thing described so well.

38:03 - "Held down, and someone forced the tattoos on him.". That's actually what the spirl of Barnum's 2nd tattooed man was. Captain Costentenus claimed that he was captured by a cruel king who offered him a choice in his method of death: dismemberment, eaten by 🐅, stung to death by wasps, or having his entire body tattooed. If he survived, he was free to go. 53:43 - Notice that journalist James Gordon Bennett Sr. complimented the performers as human beings. He hates the fakeness that Barnum was showing. Perhaps, if it was the trapeze artists performing and the Bearded Lady singing, he would've been a lot more generous in his reviews. (My take on his character. Not my viewpoint at all).

@Rocket_s_ship

10 ай бұрын

wow. being held down and tattooed is now a new fear of mine.

@hannahmontana9307

9 ай бұрын

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I love this movie. Even though P. T Barnum wasn't a good guy. I worked at a movie theater when this came out. I saw it 4 times in theaters. Having 3 free movie tickets a week came quite in handy as someone on the spectrum. Who loves movies. The actor who played young P.T Barnum didn't sing at all. Neither did the actress who played Jenny Lind.

Barnums real first performer was Joice Heth who he said was George Washington's nurse, and was 161 years old. After she passed, he sold tickets to her autopsy.

@TheCrayonMaster

10 ай бұрын

Yup. 😬 I'd like to add that she was a slave, and she couldn't walk. So she wasn't there by choice.

@ambriaashley3383

10 ай бұрын

@@TheCrayonMastersickening 😢

@TheCrayonMaster

10 ай бұрын

@@ambriaashley3383 agreed. 😞

@Rocket_s_ship

10 ай бұрын

what's an autopsy?

@videohistory722

10 ай бұрын

@@Rocket_s_ship how they determine cause of death

I just can't believe they really made a movie about this monster of a man. And made him look like he was a good guy. He was a huge POS!

@jalynharrison1947

10 ай бұрын

There's always like this fake ass glow around historical movies, either to make it more dramatic/cinematic or simply they don't want to tell the true story to make (insert bad guy from history) look better. So, it's actually not that surprising. Still sucks tho.

@oliviarogers2808

10 ай бұрын

They made him look like a FLAWED man, who was so wrapped up in himself and his show that he made his "freaks" feel exactly that. Like freaks. It eventually all blew up in his face. Did they make him out to be AS bad as the real dude? No, but they didn't make him out to be a saint either.

Watching the rehearsal with Keala and Hugh hit me soooo hard in my feels.

@joeypotter6051

10 ай бұрын

Honestly the rehearsal is more emotional than the movie

@evelyndossantos708

10 ай бұрын

I cry everytime I watch it

Enjoyed the music and the message of the movie. Although I wanted more of Anne and Philip love story, but well they’re not the main character. Btw Zendaya and Zac did most of their stunts for “Rewrite The Stars” scene. They got bruises, burns, and bumped into each other A LOT. Zendaya actually had to train with trapeze artists. Zac learned some moves as well and of course there’s vocal and dance training/practices/rehearsals. So I can’t hate too much on the actors/actresses who worked hard and put so much into the movie. They did amazingly well for what they were given.. BUT yeah PT was NOT A GOOD GUY and yeah the animal cruelty and mistreatment of their performers as well was horrible. So yeah even the movie was trying to “redeem” him or his character in the movie. I can’t sympathize for PT at all… he was a disgusting man. 😆

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

By the standards of the time, Barnum was not overly abusive to the performers....he needed them and used them, he wasn't stupid. Many became famous because of the circus and were able to have better lives because of it. Not something that Barnum planned of course.

@thetargaryenbride

10 ай бұрын

What do you mean by "I can't hate too much on the actors" like why would you have even a little hate for them in the first place? lmao. They are all wonderful people and super talented

@hannahmontana9307

9 ай бұрын

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Justice for Jenny Lind! After seeing this movie I read up on her story and would love to have her life documented as a film. She was born out of wedlock and became a philanthropist who donated a lot of money to many different causes. The romance between Barnum and Lind is fabricated for the sake of the movie plot and I think her actual life is worth exploring. She is said to have had many suitors and received several proposals (one of which is H.C. Andersen who allegedly wrote The Nightingale about her) but refused them all until she settled down with a man 9 years younger than her.

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

Reading about her would most likely prove to be more accurate than anything Hollywood would ever produce.

The fact that the bartender is the choreographer so I doubt he cares about them fucking up his bar😂

The real PT Barnum would've set the fire himself and sold tickets

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

Total of five fires during his time with the museum/circus.

We can hate PT Barnum, but love this movie

The bar is an actual bar preserved from the1800s. I can’t believe they let Zach tap dance on it 😮

If you're still curious its pronounced Zen-Day-A. As she says, it's very phonetic.

I like how most circus are here in Brazil. there's a law that prohibits the animal use in circus here, so the show is basically trapeze artists, Illusionists, motorcycles... the last one I went to here a girl was dancing with hula hoops, and her brother had a show of archery. I can see why people would look to the traditional circus and be uncomfortable but when is just people performing, is quite good. edit: just a correction, most states prohibited, including mine. that's a bummer actually

Omg the Jack Black version of this is something I need in my life!!!

"oh fck off hugh, you stupid whispering btch" I CACKLED EXACTLY LIKE STEPH 💀 he does whisper the songs a lot it messes me up when i put the songs on shuffle like damn i gotta adjust the volume again 😭 great reaction as always guys!

26:56 Fun fact: the bartender is the choreographer!

@TheCrayonMaster

10 ай бұрын

I didn't know that! That's really cool!

@bleeka325

4 ай бұрын

He was the assistant choreographer. Ashley wallen is the choreographer

Having been in many interracial relationships, I can say that the subject of my race as a black woman will always come up. It's not a matter of "if" it will come up, but "when." Hell, last year, I went on a date with my boyfriend, who looks white, and a guy came up to us and started talking to both of us. Really sweet and cool guy! Until he whispered in my boyfriend's ear that he only liked "the white parts of America" while pointing to me before leaving the bar for the night. When I tell you both my boyfriend and I were absolutely FLOORED and didn't know how to even respond to such foolishness. So the people having a problem with interracial relationships in the movie was pretty valid because I still get shit for it in the present day.

As much as I love the From Now On song, I kind of hate the scene it goes with. It feels like it becomes the burden of the "freaks"/entertainers to comfort Barnum and make him feel better about how hard his life has become, but there's not really acknowledgement for how hard their life had been while he (essentially) abandoned them. At no point during this scene do we really get an apology from Barnum to them. He doesn't take accountability for ignoring them, shutting them out, treating them poorly and even attempting to distance himself to become more popular with the critics.

It’s so crazy to think about the fact that his wife is telling him the life he’s trying so badly to create isn’t the life his daughters will enjoy. Her actions prove the because she was so willing to give it up and stay away for the happy poor life they had. The life she seems willing to go back to if the money were to slow down. We obviously know it’s not for his daughters but just interesting

Oh man I would LOVE to see the Tenacious D, Jack Black version of this musical!!!!

I love the bar scene between zac ans jackman so much. Jackmans character is playing Zacs character the entire time. any time they take shots Jackman either just moves his around the bar alot and doesnt actually take it. Or his glass is only half full while Zacs is full. Until the end, after Zac agrees to join him. Also during the bargening, Zac goes down by 2 Jackman only goes up by one. And finally, if you watch closely you can see the reason he wanted Zacs character to join him. During the beginning every move he makes he either uses props or is assisted, while Zac then does similar stunts during his part with no props, no assistance and he does it alot smoother and more natuarally. p.s. Her name is Zen-DAY-a She has confirmed

I really wish that Hugh Jackman played a fictional character in this film because if it wasn't for the fact that this was based on an actual person this film would be amazing. It is an amazing film! There is so much care and thought in the choreography, cinematography, costuming, singing / lyrics, set designs, editing, acting, damn near everything! You can just tell that everyone worked their asses off in this film but there is just this one problem that prevents this movie from being perfection.

Zendaya make must of her stuns here thats why it look very good when she and Zack are doing the duet.

@shinryouzen

10 ай бұрын

Yeah there were a few literal bumps during rehearsal but I remember they mentioned they were quite grateful that they miraculously had no actual accidents considering their stunts can be dangerous 😂

I loooove this movie. It's so rediculous as legitimately none of it was ever real. My favorite part in my first watch through was seeing the quote at the end, looking P.T. Barnum up on Wikipedia, and seeing "There's a sucker born every minute" in the opening paragraph. 😂 Unlike many others in the comments, I am fortunately able to suspend my dibelief and seperate the real story from this incredible musical as it's just so fantastical; it's like making a fun musical about a war criminal. This man was for sure one of the worst people to have ever lived. I loved the circus as a child, but I always felt weird about the animal acts and as I grew older, appalled. Rest in piss Barnum & Bailey's. You can stay a thing of the past and this movie, as delightful as it is, proves that. 10/10 movie for me though, and that soundtrack?? 😍

I hate that they made Jenny Lind and antagonist of the story because she was pretty cool IRL. Also 1:00:55 I hate that there are still places that have wild animals in circuses. Where I’m from it’s illegal and the few times I’ve been to circus they’ve only had like horses and dogs and an occasional donkey.

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

There are still zoos and private citizens that own wild animals and mistreat them. It's not a question of ownership ..... it's a matter of proper care. There are domestic animals that are equally mistreated. When we isolate one offender like the circus, it takes the pressure off all the other offenders.

@camrynmcgarry2117

10 ай бұрын

I remember seeing an actual tiger show when I was 5 or 6 at our city's state fair they did every summer and our local circus also had Elephants and Lions when I was little. I didn't get the impact of what was happening AT ALL!!! (May I add we live in a very northern state in the U.S. called Maine and it snows here anywhere from Halloween through Mother's Day sooooo not prime habitat for those kinds of animals by any stretch!!!!!!!!) Child me liked seeing all the animals and had no idea what was happening😔😔😔😔😔 It wasn't until I was around 12ish that I started to understand why there were people outside the circus every year protesting what was happening. By that point, I had started to look into what was happening and watching movies like Water for Elephants and watching various documentaries on what was happening at these circuses. I was horrified by what I saw and I stopped going anytime they had advertised wild animal shows. I started getting back into horses at that point as well as going to the local 4H shows they did at our local state fair instead and seeing all the bunnies, chickens, and cattle they had on display as well as the horse shows they ran and the cart pulling shows they did that were always super interesting to watch for me. The last animal-related thing they offered that I went to was this Royal Gala horse show from Spain which ended up being people basically doing liberty training with their horses and riding them bareback..... which my inner horse girl thought was super cool!!!!! Then they did state that these guys from Animal Planet were going to bring their snakes, lizards, and mostly alligators that they had rescued and rehabed and these ones couldn't be released back for various reasons. They run a sanctuary for bigger reptiles in Florida and they were at our local state fair showing off some of their creatures. (To be fair, our summers get pretty warm in late July. August is the worst in terms of heat. Sooooo.... I imagine the cold-blooded reptiles were fine and dandy since it can get up to the 100 degrees Fahrenheit range in August which is when our local state fair is, and when the reptile people showed up.) They put on a really interesting exhibit!!!!!!!!!! Those were the only two shows I sought out watching, aside from Cirque de Solei when they came this past winter (Although, I couldn't get tickets in time to see them😭😭😭) I haven't been to the circus since I was 12 sooooooo..... I have no idea if they are even still here or still do wild animal shows anymore!!!!! I used to love our local state fair they did every year, but after so long it wasn't worth the entry fee and so we stuck to going to our local free music festival they did every year before the younger kids start school again!!!!!!!!! THAT was always a blast!!!! They do lots of different musical groups from all over, including Indigenous singers, which were always super cool to listen to!!!!!!! Sometimes I'd go with my Mom, and sometimes I'd go with a group of friends, it depends!!!!! The food booths are always to die for, and so are the crafters who were selling their products!!!!! Always new things to do and listen to every single year!!!! Which is why we all STILL go all these years later!!!!

@emmakulmala2173

10 ай бұрын

@@nightfall902 yes but circuses where what was being discussed here. Whataboutism is not a good look btw. Circus is not a proper environment for wild animal, ever. Domesticated animals are used to working with humans and finding a species typical environment for a dog, cat a horse is much easier than an elephant or a lion. Private citizens mistreating their animals is a different issue. They are also less likely to try to train lions to do tricks. Most of these issues could be treated with good animal protections laws but if they don’t exist there’s nothing to force people’s to be less shitty.

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

@@emmakulmala2173 Well if you want to be period specific... Why not include game hunting? Very popular with the rich of that time. Ivory harvesting, mass killing of lions, tigers and all the rest to to be turned into rugs and other trophies. Whataboutism is not a good look...neither is narrow minded tunnel vision. At the very least know a little of the time frame your discussing.

@emmakulmala2173

10 ай бұрын

@@nightfall902 What are you on about? what time period do you mean? Because I was talking about our current day world where for some reason having wild animals in circus (or god forbid as pets) is still legal in some places. As far as I know all the rest you mentioned is in fact illegal (aside from game hunting which is a whole other topic of discussion) and is done by poachers.

I see many people explaining why Barnum was a bad person. But I haven't seen anyone mention the ugly laws. Those laws started in the 60's (Barnum started his circus in the 50's I believe). So this would be set right before they literally made it illegal for people with physical deformities, or people who were just considered unappealing, to be in public. Which I have do doubt Barnum used to get some of his performers.

btw it's ZenDAYa with the hard-A

One of the most atrocious human beings in all of American history but he gets a fun, lively musical painting him as a hero played by Hugh Jackman lmfao classic

When I say I hate Barnum NEVER am I talking about Hugh Jackman himself. Beautiful man

Though I can’t stand the real PT Barnum this is one of my favorite musicals because of the music, choreography, and acting. I would love to see this as a live production but I’d want them to change all the names so it’s not longer associated to the real person.

@joeypotter6051

10 ай бұрын

I've always thought it would make a kickass live production

I just want to be Zac Efron and be princess carried by Hugh Jackman (this movie) and Dwayne Johnson (Baywatch).

The actress who played the bearded woman, Keala Settle, was asked to do just a sing through for the execs to fund the movie and had crippling anxiety about it. She did so amazing the execs refused to let anyone else play her character (though ultimately it was Hugh Jackman that convinced her) and we all got to hear her amazing voice! There's a video of that showcase performance and it's awesome in and of itself. You can see her hands shaking at one point and Hugh Jackman grabs her hand and gets really emotional. I highly recommend everyone watch that video, but also keep your eye on the piano player since he wrote the song and was seeing his creation come to life.

I was so excited for this reaction! Though i did not expect the laughing throughout it haha. I out iff seeing this because the the time period with modern music normally bothers me. But i finally did and goddamn the music is SO catchy. Such a great soundtrack 👌

Yes, finally!!! I love that movie, the soundtrack is amazing. One of the best I heard in the last years

@themoviebudz1988

10 ай бұрын

Definitely a great soundtrack 😊 - Sam

im with stef, this is one of my favorite x-men movies

Ive only just started the video but I just had to say how hyped I am to hear the guys thoughts on the music and the story itself. I really dont care for the story (especially the parts that horribly clash with the real story that inspired this fiction) but the views can be fun and I LOVED the music when it came out. In large part cause it was the first movie in awhile I saw with my grandmother that we both really loved and us listening to the soundtrack and singing along together was a lot of fun. Sadly even though she loved it she didnt care much to analyze or critic and no one else I know saw it. So Im very excited to get to hear what the budz think.

I do love the soundtrack of this movie but can't get over the fact that like its not really a great musical by technical standards. Almost all the songs don't actually serve story purpose and are merely a way to do a montage (why are there so many montages?). If you didn't have the visuals, most of the songs wouldn't make sense or move the plot along, which is the exact opposite of what you want from a musical. Not to mention, the songs that are meant to give insight into the emotions of the character generally are not needed, we get a lot of that in the speaking scenes and the songs just feel gratuitous. Making a musical isn't just throwing songs in a movie, its it's own art form, and I wish modern movie musicals understood that.

The guy sucks way worse irl, but damn. That soundtrack. Can't love this movie when the entire cast is having a blast putting their all into it. This soundtrack is amazing. Their performances were amazing.

the title is so real

@themoviebudz1988

10 ай бұрын

Thanks, it was hard to be accurate in a short sentence 😊 - Sam

The budz are back! Troy and chad are shaking😭

I learned who P.T Barnum after the movie, but that aside....this is an amazing movie! I got chills during every song!

Yeah I feel like they didn’t need to add the cheating….the characters experiencing backlash is enough conflict 😂

1:03:31 "Oh, F*ck of Hugh, you st*pid whispering b*tch", I love you Sam. You made my night.

I ain't watched this movie in a long while so good to watch with you guys plus I didn’t know what else to watch so I’m here

It amazes me every time I see viewers that have never heard of the Barnum and Baileys Circus. I saw it every year as a kid. This movie marked the year it officially came to an end.

AZAZEL!!! Rewrite the Stars is my favorite but seeing the context makes me love it even more.

I remember reading in an article that the soundtrack was written first before the movie was crafted around the story of PT Barnum. And it really shows. I really wish they would have picked another subject for the bomber soundtrack.

Knowing how horrible barnum was, i just detached myself from real barnum vs movie barnum. Making sure that this is a fantasy

Norway, where I live, have actually banned animals from the circus. I don't know if it's like that in other countries, but that's how it is here.

Their face at 59:26 😂😂😂 Just so done

My husband and I rock this soundtrack on road trips 😂

That same marketing skill you guys praise him for is the real reason Jenny Lind cut ties with him, not because he brushed off her advances.

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

Barnum bought Lind unheard. He knew her reputation and paid her to perform. She accepted and had no idea how much more she was worth than what he was paying. There was no relationship. Barnum was 60 at the start of the circus and married his second wife 3 years later...a woman younger than his own daughters.

@videohistory722

10 ай бұрын

@@nightfall902 I never said anything about a relationship. Read my comment.

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

@@videohistory722 Fine ... there were no advances to brush off. Better?

I’m a connoisseur of thumbnails and very rarely have I seen such an accurate thumbnail 🔥

About 28:17, there’s a video floating around somewhere out there, I can’t remember if it was an interview or something else, where Zendaya answers the question about her name‘s pronouncement. There she says it’s ZenDAYa, not ZenDAHYA.

Ok so like this isn't a movie but because of y'all's background In music I would rally live to see you guys react to Julie and the Phantoms. The singing is soooo goooodd and I'd just really live to hear y'all's thoughts on it.

The soundtrack to this movie is great! The storyline...eh. I've always thought it would make a great stage show, like on Broadway. That would be fantastic and so much fun. And hopefully they could edit the storyline a bit to put more emphasis on the performers and less on asshole Barnum.

Rewrite the stars also got radio play it’s so good

In real like Jenny Lind did not have an affair with PT Barnum and she finished her American tour and went back home

@nightfall902

10 ай бұрын

Barnum took on Lind because she well known and well loved...he had never even heard her sing. She did it for the money. No relationship at all...he was 60 when he got into the circus, married his second wife 3 years later...a woman younger than his daughters. I hope people do the research and don't think this is in any way true. (but you know how people are)

Omg!!! My name was used in a pun!! 😍😍😍 I got genuinely excited 🙌🏼

I love this soundtrack. Great life lessons I'll never be enough for some people. Even more sad there usually not enough for themselves.

57:52 "Hey crispy" LMAOOOO Man all the jokes in this video had my laughing so hard 😭😭

When I first watched this movie (before I knew of what the real P.T. was like), I was in awe. I watched it in my uncles home theater on a comfortable couch with surround sound speakers. It was mind-blowing.

I saw this in GOLD CLASS. A high school friend invited me and I hadn’t seen her in ages so I went, and she didn’t tel me until we were at the FRONT of the line that we were seeing it gold class… And the GC seats, are like sets of 2… she sat with her sister, and I was sat next to some random man eating red rock deli chips 😭😭😭 and the ticket was like $50 so I couldn’t even buy a choctop!

this movie has the most contemporary christian rock sounding soundtrack of any musical i’ve ever seen

the bartender is my favorite charter in this movie.

The real bearded lady started circus at age 3 months. Saw some of these guys at Ridley's Believe It Or Not Museum. It was pretty cool although in real life all these guys were different ages and from different places of the world.

20:00 point them to Roberto Carlos' free kick curve in WC 1998, that sprouted several papers about the physics of football pitches and affected the design of later balls with different materials to alter the way players could dribble. ....or, point them to F1 teams testing developing technologies in racing cars that would later be added to street cars... like, injection systems, suspension rigs, gear boxes, turbo chargers... hell, even the term _sniper_ has an origin in sports: it was the marksman who could hunt a _snipe,_ which is known to be extremely difficult to shoot at.

It's so screwed up the way they portrayed Jenny Lynd in this. They never had any sort of inappropriate relationship, and Lynd left the tour for a combination of reasons, the biggest ones being the way Barnum treated people and also Lynd finding out that the money she thought was going to charity from her tour, he was pocketing, and she found out that the tour was making way more money than he was telling her. There also wasn't any kiss between Barnum and Lynd, that like most things in this movie was made up to make Lynd a villain of this movie, which was certainly a choice. Lynd was another person Barnum exploited and lied to, and she was fed up with it and left, and they chose to make her the villain lol. Abhorrent.

I LOVEEEEE this movie. I've watched about 50 times.

Was watching a lot of scenes that I honestly don't remember when I first watched this movie the month it came out.

32:55 The Actress of Jenny Lind, Rebecca Ferguson was lip syncing to music sung by Loren Allred. She didn't do her own singing.

Still one of my favorite movies. The soundtrack is pure gold.

Justice for Jenny Lind!

One thing that I’m really happy about is most circuses, at least reputable ones, no longer have animals, because it’s cruel to keep them in the way circuses used to. It was obvious animal abuse, and people (at least decent people) stopped tolerating it. 37 states have banned the use of wild animals altogether. Most countries have laws against it. The ones who don’t have laws are mostly underdeveloped countries

Speaking of Jack Black, Have you considered reacting to School of Rock? The movie is my favorite and it brings back happy memories of my father (he was a tattoo artist that loved rock music)