Perfect use for an e-Bike too!

I am also wondering how you get back to the bikes. Are you leaving the kayaks? Do you lock your bikes or just hide them somewhere (additional weight for a decent lock is something that you will notice)? I am still trying to figure out a method that works for me. I think thats where packrafting makes humongous sense. Ride your bike to the start, paddle, take train/bus back to the bike and ride to the next stop. The Alpacka Valkyrie is somewhat close to being a kayak but will still fit in a backpack.

@Senders

Жыл бұрын

Hiding the bikes and trailers locking them up and hoping for the best from people. We get back to the bikes either by jogging / walking the shuttle, taking a bus or sharing a shuttle with other kayakers. Not necessarily trying to not use the car at all, just trying to use it less :)

@current-raft

Жыл бұрын

Packrafting is great fun, and a method to keep your CO2 footprint low. What is a real game changer is that you can not only hike or bike the shuttle, but you can take a train or bus with all the equipment. So you can go on a paddling holiday without a car. Works especially welk in Switzerland, because the train connections and accessibility are great 👍

Great video bren, having started my kayak journey in Australia we have to drive for 3 hours each way to get to some good rapids

It's definitely an interesting alternative that you show in this advertising video. As a student in the nineties I built and used my own kayak trailer that I put behind my bicycle to get my 3m long Eskimo Diablo to and from our local river for training. However, as several other people already mentioned, the problem with kayak trailers lies in the shuttle. Although my trailer could easily carry one person, taking several people on it simply isn't a viable solution, due to the power of the person cycling being limited, especially on the steep roads or paths surrounding most fun whitewater destinations. There simply isn't a bus or other public transport solution near many fun rivers. So yes, kayak trailers for bicycles certainly do have their use, and I still own two of them, including my 30 year old self built one, but they have some serious limitations as well, especially when used for a multi-day kayaking and camping trip.

Mare you definitely have to put your Seatpost up:)

Hi Bren, good on you for raising this issue. I'm conscious/concerned about our (kayakers) blind spot regarding microplastics which end up in the ocean. Everytime we scrap the hull we leave particles that eventually end up in the ocean. We're not as clean as we would like to think...... always a balance & a matter of choices .

@ThomasWaldecker

Жыл бұрын

It's so easy to take more plastic out of the rivers than into the rivers. Just try to pick up bottles or other trash from the rivers.

@mikebrown1036

Жыл бұрын

@@ThomasWaldecker yes, you're right ... & Discarded face masks, shoes etc

My friend and I used to drive to the takeout on the upper Kern and chain a mtn bike to a tree - we run Brush creek and or Limestone run on the Kern and I'd then ride the bike up the road to retrieve the truck - not perfect, but it's one vehicle instead of two!

Cries in southern NJ where the closest whitewater is 51 miles away. Closest river is 71 miles and closest river with summer releases is 132 miles. Wish I could afford to move.

Respect for at least mentioning this! Way too much driving and flying for river trips. Packrafts are helpful for this, but of course much more limited in terms of whitewater difficulty that can be done. Great job!

Awesome idea! Maybe I would advice you two things: your suspension on - on a road and uphill is exhausting as hell. And maybe try to bring your saddle more up. Keep up the good stuff man!💪

Really cool video. I actually Movies to Hall i.T. which is next to Innsbruck yesterday. I am definetly gonig to try out the tour without my kayak, because i‘m still injured until march but Patience will do it’s work. You two are going to be at the oetz trophy this year for sure right?

great video mate. i stopped travelling the world with My van and DH bike same issues, now i have the same issues kayaking but at least we can car share which helps i bit and staying local!! Which Model of the Trailor do you have ?

Love it! Do you have the link? All I'm getting is Jack Reacher movie trailers.

Way to go guys.

Seeing you huffing up those hills (and you a strong athlete at that) I immediately wonder why you just didn't use e-bikes. Zero emission, 500+ km on one euro of electricity and completely sustainable transport. I've used them for shuttles many times. Though I want that Reacha trailer -- I could use my bike even more. Yes, sometimes a car is the only way, but I got my first shuttle ride in a Tesla last year with a trailer specially designed for kayaks so as to eliminate the roof rack drag. Thanks for the video!

@Senders

Жыл бұрын

Cheers mate, I would love an E-Bike and I agree it would make this stuff way better! One day I’ll get one!

awesome!!

Good video bro

If I live cycling distance to places I can go kayaking I would definitely use one of theses systems wouldn’t have the car hassle plus extra cardio training

So glad this is being addressed more widely. I loved seeing this back when the Bike2Boat Tyrol video came out. Wish our roads here in the states were more bike friendly. I bike shuttle as much as I can but sometimes it’s just too dangerous with fast cars and no shoulders. I love paddling and I always wear a helmet on the bike and in the boat, but not willing to die for my sport…unless it’s on the water. 😂 JK

Please put your saddle up a bit :-D sitting on the saddle the correct height is marked when your heal touches the pedal with the leg straight.

This is what i need

What about the carbon used to make the plastic kayak? Or the carbon used to fly longhaul? Also, worh considering.

At least it usually is a carpool and hitchhiking works sometimes as well.

How do you get back to your bikes once you are done? Do you just hike back up to the bikes?

@fritzrademacher

Жыл бұрын

That was also my first thought especially when you want to got longer tours like 15 kilometers or so. How do you manage to come back to the bikes?

@oscarhenry6243

Жыл бұрын

In oetz you can take the bus

@fritzrademacher

Жыл бұрын

@@oscarhenry6243 Yeah but in other cases its a problem

@Senders

Жыл бұрын

Shorter rivers we just walk or jog up. In a place like Oetz where there are lots of kayakers we can hop in and share a shuttle with other groups and if no one is around the bus is around or we can walk up :)

I think you should comment on this post everytime you ride to a river @bren. Help keep it popping up on people's feed.

You should try packrafting bro, it'll blow your mind

With my kayaging buddies we have been using a bike for our shuttles for years now. Definitely adds something to the experience, as it so happens that kayaking shuttles often take place in environments that are spot on for biking too. However more generally this kind of initiative won't increase the kayaking-time/car-travel-time ratio by much, and it will remain hopelessly low. Kayaking is NOT a green sport by any means.

I just strap an electric longboard under the kayak and "kayak" to the local river 😜

@frosch5801

Жыл бұрын

Haha love this idea!!

@ Bren i love that you have regular bike handles, much more relatable ♥ (Sorry Adrian^^)

Right on lads! Thanks for bringing some awareness about the dirty secret. With all the $$ you spend on plane tickets you could probably afford an EV. 🤔

The bike to boat video might have worked better not immediately before the solo pickup truck one.

Use a packraft :P

Great job on signaling your virtue Bru! But still dig your kayaking videos.

I built my kayak trailer from bamboo and recycled bicycle parts, nearly free.

What is your height and weight

@Senders

Жыл бұрын

Adrian: 188cm 87kg

@rahulbhandari2115

Жыл бұрын

Does height and weight matter in kayaking

May be worth looking at a E bike. Would certainly make the trips easier and give you more energy for kayaking.

no thanks, i would have to stop boating

Use Tandems

@jacob8565

Жыл бұрын

Ebikes

@causewaykayak

Жыл бұрын

@@jacob8565 Good idea. however I have a vision of near future Lithium Pollution. thoughts on that 🤔 pls

Good to acknowledge Bren. Your (previous?) intro to videos, ripping up with an unnecessarily huge 6-litre truck always made me cringe, hopefully this will help to educate. I wonder what Red Bull and other sponsors do to promote better environmental behaviour. I don't see much evidence of it from many sponsored athletes. I always try to share lifts/fill the car to minimise impact, and sometimes use the bike for shuttles. Also remember it isn't just travelling to rivers, ride/walk/use public transport for as many local trips as possible. Cheers.

Let us know when you get to 2400 miles on the trailer. Then you’ll be at break even. Roughly.

Ummm….ah….shuttle? Please, next time, address the shuttle.

Plastic scrapings off the boats don't do the environment any good either.

Put a hidden gps locator on your bike and trailer. In Portland this rig would soon end up in a homeless camp.

Thank you for all your doing so other people can drive turbo diesel v8 4x4s. I for one am grateful, sorry bro but our boats are made of the same thing as the stuff your car runs off

@gordonross7638

Жыл бұрын

Their working on a paper mache boat design just to silence you.

@hemperor7325

Жыл бұрын

@@gordonross7638 clearly intelligence isn’t your thing

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Good to see you guys use proper bikes and not that e-rubbish.

@patrickwilliamson29

Жыл бұрын

I reckon the e-bike has it's advantages. I'm an avid biker and with the e-bike I can go further and push myself harder at the flick of a button. Also makes it more easily accessible for people who are just getting into the sport or are not prepared to do the extreme hills

@PRWilson88

Жыл бұрын

No need to be negative about an e-bike. If you need to save your energy to do an activity it’s a great idea and is the point of the e-bike.

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rather drive a diesel evidently booty judge would rather drive his big expensive suv within a block of washington dc unload his bicycle put on his little girls helmet film himself riding a bike to work not realizing he was being filmed by someone else

@boddysurfer

Жыл бұрын

Did you just have a stroke, or are you always this incoherent.

That make no sens IMHO. The amount of CO2 dumped while producing aluminum, plastic, e.t.c for this bike and bike trailer, allows you to travel using gasoline on your car at least for year or more. Save the nature, travel using car, you already have.

@henrywright3976

Жыл бұрын

But if you use a bike and trailer then over 5 years you would massively cut down on CO2e produced. The 0 tailpipe emissions from riding a bike would offset the emissions made to produce a bike compared to driving a car over a couple years (And it would be so much cheaper). Buying a bike 2nd hand would reduce your emissions even further since you are giving a product a 2nd life with no added emissions. Save the planet, ride your bike.