Kaweco Brass vs Bronze Sport - Compared!
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Let's compare these two fountain pens; Brass Sport vs. Bronze Sport. Which one should you choose?!? I love a good comparison!
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I have had a brass Sport for over three years and absolutely love everything about it. Incidentally, mine came with the sardine can. The bronze is certainly nice but, in my opinion, not nice enough to justify the extra cost. I am happy to be firmly on team brass.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
They seem to be random with the cans. I do love when they come! All the best!
@sarvanm826
5 ай бұрын
What pocket clip are you using in the brass pen?
I don't have anyone in my life to keep me from making poor financial choices. 😢 ... So I have both.
@HemingwayJones
9 ай бұрын
Me too! 😂 nice! Thanks for the smile.
@sannablund
4 ай бұрын
🙋🏼♀️ me too 🫣 and the steel…
@krakentowa8727
4 ай бұрын
Me three!😂😂😂😂
Hello HJ. Interesting video. In my opinion, if you come from a nautical background, you get the brass. Come from an artsy background, you get the bronze. Otherwise these pens are too close to call. Side by side you can see the difference. Single ownership tells us a different story. Great show. Keep them coming.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Wonderful points, My Friend. Thank you!
@jacobus57
10 ай бұрын
Bronze is used in nautical fittings.
I love my brass Kaweco and I did get the tin case with mine. For an almost identical pen, I would keep my brass, and spend the extra on fabulous inks for it. Thanks for the interesting comparison!
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Very well reasoned. Thanks so much for watching and for the kind words.
Typical thoughtful and well reasoned review of these two great pens. I understand most of Kaweco's loyal following deferring to the latest offering, and the allure of the luminescent gold and it's attractiveness. I paid $50 for the brass not long after its introduction in the mid-teens, and then I spent another $150 on the 14k O60 gold nib. I found the contrast between the brass and the white metal nib jarring, and it was a constant aesthetic affront as the pen began to patina from my almost nonstop pants-pocket carry on summertime hikes, etc. Over the past seven years the brass has turned a muted chocolate brown, and it looks amazing with the gold nib, which mirrors the brighter clip. Brass kills viruses and bacteria, and that was great during Covid. Bronze is much more oxidation resistant, so will look pristine for years, but brass becomes a mute journal and testament to your passage through life. If it's not obvious, I vote brass, and spend the difference on a gold nib! :)
@wolf_ceit_witch
10 ай бұрын
I think I might get a gold nib for the brass I just got.
@LaddGardner4
10 ай бұрын
I think you will love it! :) @@wolf_ceit_witch
@wolf_ceit_witch
10 ай бұрын
@@LaddGardner4 I love nautical stuff... I have sailed on Tall Ships and live very close to Boston Harbor.
@LaddGardner4
10 ай бұрын
My sister lives a couple blocks from Paul Revere's house, so she's your neighbor! What a great place to live, and such a remarkable history.@@wolf_ceit_witch
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
I love the idea of a gold nib with that pen! Well done. I agree that the silver throws the aesthetic off. Thanks for the excellent comment.
I am "Team Bronze" and I love mine with the BB nib. Thanks for this comparison 🖤
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Brass is a fantastic material to machine, cuts really well and exactly, which is why it was used so much by Victorian mechanisms and instruments. So it has a certain nostalgic look and identity. However, personally, I like the material bronze.
@HemingwayJones
9 ай бұрын
That’s a great angle to discuss it! Thanks for your perspective. All the best!
What an intentional, unique review. Thank you for making this. Also, love seeing dudes with beautiful handwriting 🤙🏽💪🏽 good work!
@HemingwayJones
4 ай бұрын
Thank you on both counts!
If I had to choose between the 2 I would take the Brass everyday of the week. But to each his own. I know you love the Bronze! And good for you. Great production.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
The Bronze has a quality but I enjoy them both.
I love Eclat de Saphir in my brass sport for nautical vibes. I keep Montblanc Midnight Blue in my Bronze sport. The calligraphy nib is a must, bit of a hassle though getting it installed and aligned (I had to ask for help lol) but fantastic once it’s all done. Both my brass and bronze came with the sardine can btw.
the video I was searching for and never finding! thanks! (I wish there were a Kaweco Copper Sport)
@HemingwayJones
4 ай бұрын
I wish I had a Copper Sport! Thanks so much for watching and for being here.
Copper + zinc vs. copper + tin. n There are a number of interesting newish alloys. My current favorite (silver colored) is chrome -cobalt, consisting of (you guessed it) chromium and cobalt. The "metal smell" is actually the metal (as a catalyst) chemically changing hand oils. You are actually smelling yourself, not the metal!
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
I don’t get much of a smell personally but I have heard people go on and on about it. I love metals and textures. These are very interesting and effective pens. I hope all is well with you n
@Calcprof
10 ай бұрын
@@HemingwayJones doing great. Just back from Quebec City.
It was about the bronze! I have an ensso copper Italia -- for the copper; and brass pens of many manufacturers are readily available; but, bronze? I'm glad I acted a few months ago. Love the Kaweco Sport Bronze. I imagine some year I'll spring for the Yard-O-Led or Waldmann solid silver, for having a pen in which that element predominates. If I still have the budget. Fun video. Thanks!
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I appreciate it. Metals are interesting. I do have a silver pen to review next. All the best!
Great video, HJ. I own the Brass Sport and love it. I carry it in my pocket, and write with it daily. Although it's only a few months old, it's patina makes it look like an antique (I say that in a good way). The threads don't bother me at all when I write. 👍
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Thanks very much, My Friend. I am glad you enjoy that pen. I love them. They have so much personality and are very much their own thing.
Great video 😊 I have both , my brass one is in the wash tray right now, needs to be cleaned… thoroughly enjoying the bronze at the moment… I did at one point, put them both in my purse, which was silly but I couldn’t decide 🤷🏼♀️😂
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Nice! Thanks so much for watching!
My brass came in the tin can as well 😊 I'm such a big fan HJ! Kerpupthe great content. I am thinking of ordering the Bronze from Appelboom as I have never ordered from them before. I want to add a gold Nib if I do.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. That sounds amazing! Great choice!
Hello Hemingway, thank you very much for your conversations and an amazing ability to make all your videos interesting and personally engaging. I have both pens. My Kaweco Bronze is flawless. I am in the middle of changing nib on my Kaweco Brass. I ordered 1.1 stub. At this stage all my love goes to Kaweco Bronze, but please ask the same question next week ☺️
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words! I am so glad that you enjoyed this. Those are two excellent pens.
Lovely pen and lovely video! Thanks for sharing your thoughts about both Kaweco pens!
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
You are so welcome! Thank you so much for watching!
I purchased the Steel Sport and avoided the smell, to which I’m sensitive. That Bronze is mesmerizing, and very appealing to me as a historian. Thank you for the detailed comparison. Edited to add that the brushed finish on the Bronze reminds me of the Steel, except that the Steel is brushed on the diagonal and feels almost rough at first but smooths to a very pleasant texture with use.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
The Steel sounds very interesting. Thank you very much!
Nice comparison, I have both, each has its charms. I had ordered a bronze clip with my bronze version, but now when I see your gold clip on the bronze, the bronze seems to stand out even more, so I know what I need to do:)
@animula6908
10 ай бұрын
To be fair, your decision makes more sense on paper
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
I obsessed over the clip! As I often do. I had trouble finding the gold plated version, but I like it. Thanks!
Good idea for a show. I wondered about these two.
@HemingwayJones
9 ай бұрын
Thanks. I’m glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks for taking the time to share with us! Gotta say though....The Kaweco Steel Sport!!!! 🤪
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Steel for the win. I don’t have one!
I’ve 3 Kaweco Al Sport models (Steel, Black and Iguana blue) and 4 clones from China (including Bronze and Brass variants).. What I paid for 4 clones is less than what I paid for one and least priced AlSport ! Honestly there’s not a lot of difference in the overall writing experience and looks/finish between these pens.. So, if we’ve ‘budget concerns’, these clones always come to our rescue 😉
I see you’re using the Wearinguel Ernest Hemingway ink that I mentioned in an earlier live that you did (which I loved by the way) What a lovely ink, and it goes well with the Kaweco Brass.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
That is a wonderful ink. I love it! Pen Chalet sent it to me when it came out. They are very nice people. I have always felt that this pen feels very Hemingway.
@dawnackerman6471
10 ай бұрын
@@HemingwayJones Yes, it is very Hemingway.
I had already planned on getting the brass sport. I couldn't see spending so much more on the bronze version. The brass one is fine for me. Thanks for an interesting comparison video.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Good choice! It is a wonderful pen.
i love my bronze kaweco, it has also changed my perspective towards metals which i was hesitant on. Would probably explore into watches of different metals as well. Kaweco has let me have a small taste of what it's like to own different metals apart from the usual stainless steel.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Very nice! It's interesting how that happens. You made an excellent chocie.
I wonder why so large a difference in price. Brass currently costs about $1.82 and bronze $2.35 - _per pound_. That's a difference in pennies per pen. Brass is more malleable than bronze and easier to work with, but it's not that much easier to machine. Well, whatever the reason, I prefer brass with a polished finish, bronze with a matte finish. I have a heavy (105 gram) brass pen, hand engraved, quite nice. Brass is slightly softer, making detailed hand engraving easier, so engravers will prefer brass. From your images, I prefer the Kaweco bronze.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Very well reasoned. Thank you for the comment!
Nice one, I have been looking forward to this comparison. For me it is easy, Bronze Sport. Over my life I have experience with both Brass and Bronze and Brass has an unpleasant odor, which Bronze does not to my nose. Also Bronze is a more durable metal (harder) and more beautiful than brass. Thank you.
@HemingwayJones
9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for watching! Always happy to hear from you.
Awesome video, HJ! Does the bronze patina over time like the brass?
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
It is supposed to, but it hasn’t begun yet. I am awaiting it. Thanks for the kind words.
I love my brass, but I’ve had bad luck with their stub 1.1. SO skippy. So I have to resort to my
@johnclark1371
10 ай бұрын
I’ve also noticed some quality control issues with Kaweco nibs. Some are brilliant writers out of the box, others need considerable work to make them dependable writers. The quality control put me off of kaweco for years.
@abrahamd514
10 ай бұрын
@@johnclark1371 right? I kid you not, I purchased a medium nib, trash. 1.1, trash. Exchanged for another 1.1, trash. QC can’t be that bad but it seems that it is. Luckily my F writes fine (pun intended)
@ichirofakename
10 ай бұрын
Replacement nibs are cheap.
@abrahamd514
10 ай бұрын
@@ichirofakename I’ve gone through 3 different nibs and none of them have worked. 2 from Goulet and 1 from Amazon
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry to hear that. I have been very lucky with them. I have 12 or so different pens from them without an issue. I am probably due!
All Sports are beautiful, and the Bronze is magnificent, but there is no way I could ever justify the 200USD price tag. So the Brass wins this for me.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Very good point! All the best!
I have the superb Steel Sport. Never quite fancied the Brass pen. And while the Bronze is more appealing, the steep premium on the price is just discouraging and means I’m not falling for it and buying one yet. In any case, what I really want is a Copper Sport. And maybe even a future Titanium Sport. Also, a piston-filling Kaweco is something that I’m hardly alone in long yearning for.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
I love the way you think! It would be excellent if they did them in all the metals that you can make pens from. Thanks for the great comment.
The bronze is pretty and its on my list.... but that list is crazy... now if I can stop buying but I need now pens 😅 ....... I did find a great deal on a xf brass for 35 .... so yeah that happened... I am innocent I tell you! It jumped into my cart and checked out all by its self.... I blame the price....
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Nice! I’ve done that. You have an awesome collection! Thanks!
Having the brass, I can say it’s one of my favorite pens for EDC, and I imagine the bronze would be similarly loved. However, for the bronze being double the price, it firmly puts it in the category of appreciation, not ownership. If I find one for $100, I will buy it though
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Very good points! I love the Brass too. I just took it on a trip with me. Thanks for watching.
Bronze is white collar while the bronze if blue collar. At least in my mind. I own the bass and love it! Not for long writing sessions but for it's intended pocket pen purposes. I regularly carry the Brass and a Kaweco sport Classic in Bordeaux, both with the additional clip in the watch pocket of my jeans. I use other pens for the more dressy and formal days.
Thanks for the review. The bronze pen is beautiful. I prefer the bronze color over the brass, hands down - just not a fan of any kind of brass - lamps, nobs, or anything else. The threads don't bother me at all. However, I've found the weight of my bronze pen to be too heavy for my old hand. I'm going to re-home it.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
It is a weighty pen. That is a serious consideration. Thanks for the thoughtful comment.
@juliafalling4069
10 ай бұрын
With the clip and a partially used cartridge mine weighs 57 grams, by far my heaviest pen.
omg the bronze one looks like an antique from the british museum!!!i want it!!!!
@HemingwayJones
9 ай бұрын
Excellent!
"Faith and philosophy are air, but events are brass." -Herman Melville
As an old trombone player, I would have to stay in the brass family.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
I love this! Best reason ever!
I have both. The luminosity and chatoyancy of the bronze is definitely pretty. The brass is shiny at first but starts to patina. For me, the bronze looks great to look at but I have preferred the brass as time goes on. I love the vintage look of it and just looks great with all of my leather notebooks and folios.
@HemingwayJones
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I am glad you enjoyed the video. I go back and forth between them. They are both very fine pens.
there is something special about just raw materials
@HemingwayJones
3 ай бұрын
Truly!
Hello from Germany, where the Kaweco pens come from. I would like to ask you a question. Do you think it is a good Idea to put al little spiral spring from a normal ballpoint pen into the space between the cartridge and the end of the Kaweco Sport? I would suggest, that the cartridge will fit better with it. Best regards and please excuse my bad english Roland Mattfeldt
@HemingwayJones
4 ай бұрын
Hello Roland, your English is fine! Thank you. To be honest, I can't see how that would hurt.I'm not sure you need to fill up that space. I usually use the converter as tiny as it is! Thanks very much for watching.
I hope you can review the EBONIT Kaweco Sport,140 Year anniversary. That would be my pick of choice materials for a Kaweco. Even above a Titanium version. I won't pay the price of a Bronze,let alone the nearly $400 for the EBONIT. I do appreciate their coolness factor.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
I would love to review that pen. They would have to send it to me though. That is pricey!
@McAmeron089III
10 ай бұрын
Pricey indeed. I think I'll opt for a Black plastic Kaweco Sport and lightly sand it to look like an EBONIT to the casual observer. (Yes,I'm that shallow.) I already have Kaweco Sport pocket clips on my Pilot Kakunos.😛 The Bronze Kaweco Sport is the best looking of the range imho. @@HemingwayJones
@gleemonexrx
6 ай бұрын
@@McAmeron089III thanks for the tip about using the Kaweco Sport clips on the pilot kakuno. The pilot kakuno body is the perfect length and form for me, and its smooth nib has no business being on a $10 pen. The only thing missing was that clip. Problem solved! Thanks again.
@McAmeron089III
6 ай бұрын
I do prefer a clip on my pens. Glad that you like the Kaweco clip on the Kakuno. It's a great pen! Reading my old post above made me laugh;I caved and got the Bronze Sport;then could not resist the Kaweco ART Sport/Hickory Brown. @@gleemonexrx
I sprayed my brass Kaweco with 4 coats of lacquer. Shine preserved, smell gone.
@HemingwayJones
2 ай бұрын
That will do the trick.
Does this pen dry out if used occasionally? Like twice a year?
I absolutely love my Bronze Kaweco!
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Nice! It’s a great pen!
Isn’t the bronze one newer? If so, I think that some of what you said might change, for example the color will change with time, it will have more patina and be much less shiny. Same thing with the threads, I think it possible that with time the threads will become softer from use
How about a comparison with the Kaweco Steel Sport?
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
If only I had one. Great idea though.
waiting for titanium
My brass is a dark brown, I would have loved to get the bronze to see it darken under my use, but the price made me question the urge.
@HemingwayJones
6 ай бұрын
That sounds awesome. That brown is so amazing.
What about the maintenance factor? I feared that brass required proper cleaning every now and then
@HemingwayJones
5 ай бұрын
You can polish Brass, if you like. Not me though. Brass looks best with a bit of wear.
1. The clip looks good on the brass, but kind of clashes with the bronze. 2. Here on the Left Coast the brass looks shinier than the bronze. Though not so in New England. Fascinating. 3. The brass is a bargain and the bronze is overpriced. 4. I have the stainless steel, but I never use it.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
I think #4 decides it all for you. Hope you’re well.
I love all my metal Kaweco Sport pens.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Nice! Wonderful!
@darrinyhearm4240
10 ай бұрын
@@HemingwayJones They are so fun to write with. The weight of the pen does most of the hard work for you.
If only someone could make a stitched leather grip...
This guy looks like a hybrid between and older man and a child
@HemingwayJones
2 ай бұрын
That’s pretty accurate.
@KobieK
2 ай бұрын
@@HemingwayJones just to be clear, it was a complement ☺️
@HemingwayJones
2 ай бұрын
@@KobieK I thought it was funny. I even posted it over at IG. Well done.
If I had extra disposable income lying about, I would get the new Bronze Sport, even though I already have the Brass Sport and Steel Sport. Hell, if I just had money to blow, I'd get the Brass Sport set in fountain pen, ballpoint, and pencil, AND the Bronze Sport set in all three. As well as a spare Steel Sport. Just to have them in my collection, even if I wasn't using them all daily but just in my rotation of favorite pens.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Wonderful! I see that you like these pens. They are pretty great.
Both the Brass AND the Bronze come in the Kaweco tin.
@HemingwayJones
8 ай бұрын
Not always. Sometimes the Brass comes in a cardboard tube. But the Bronze does (supposedly) always. Of course, one says that and there will be several variations out there.
Hi, for me, it's the brass one.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Lots of love for the Brass! Thanks!
Easy. Both!
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Very easy!
If they were identical, the threads on the bronze would not be more pronounced.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
They feel more pronounced and the cap still works. Their obviously not identical or they would be made of the same material, but they are of the same specs.
What? No crocodile shirt? I am so distracted by this sartorial deviation that I am having a hard time paying attention the the video!
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
I need to rewatch it. I forget what I was wearing! By request, I have been adding wardrobe notes in the descriptions. The Polos go away soon until it gets warm again!
Benchmade, decent blade.
@HemingwayJones
10 ай бұрын
Thanks! I’m a big fan of a Tanto.
I heard the bronze was heavier.
@HemingwayJones
5 ай бұрын
Their reported weights are all over the place, but having them in hand, I cannot notice a difference. I do wish I had a sensitive scale. Thanks.
👏👌👌👌😍😍🧡🤎
@HemingwayJones
9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
I only have the Pearl so far and I'm not sure I would want to get a heavier version. I love the Pearl! 😇🩷🙏🙌
@HemingwayJones
2 ай бұрын
The Pearl is Awesome! Stay tuned for a video with my wife featuring this very pen!
Why am i here? My next buy pen are pelikan m400 and m600, and now i want the bronze, literally like right now yes i want the expensive ones 🥹 btw the way this video is made is 😍🥰
@HemingwayJones
5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! You are so kind!