若先生、s12.12.14でしたﾖﾈ、大澤さんパリから戻られた時50代でしたが25年経つても、一切変わらない外見余りに年齢不詳過ぎです！やはり道場が一番の家です。中幸町の稽古は、昔のままですか？帰れればいいのですが、ずっとサボったままナノで？体が付いていきそうもありません。基礎だけは、なんとかなりそうですが？万年初段でいままでどうり初心の方の相手をしていられたら、ずっといつものままで居られるのですが。

is this katori shinto ryu but for slow people?

@6:13

This doesn't work for mma, no, it's a joke haha, what's the difference with the Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu?

@pompadour_gagarin1723

4 жыл бұрын

This is it. There are two dojos of this style which are recognized by the sôke (Iizasa Yasusada) and listed differently in the Nihon Kobudo Kyokai and Shinkokai (one led now by Kyoso Shigetoshi after his father Otake Risuke, the Sugino one is a later dojo which was opened during the interwar). Often the "Tenshin Shoden" part of the name is ommited. It's a historical practice as well, both branches recognized that the style changed of names many times in its long history. At some point it was known simply as Shinto-ryu and often simply Katori Shinto-ryu as here, there was other names. Note that there is a serious shake-up in the school in the recent months. It seems that this is mostly affecting the Otake family but who knows how it'll evolve.

@cristobal4826

4 жыл бұрын

@@pompadour_gagarin1723 Wow, thanks so much for your time and for the explanation. Greetings

@seidobudostudies

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Here, the Tenshin Shoden part is omitted because of the maximum length allowed for YT video titles :/ Of course, the complete official name of the school (as registered at the Kobudo Shinkokai) is in the description.

@dgmgl

4 жыл бұрын

Pompadour_Gagarin just a small point. The “mainline” of Shinto Ryu is the soke, Iizasa Yasusada-soke, and the hombu dojo itself is at his home. He recognizes two groups as representing Tenshinsho Den Katori Shinto Ryu, being the Chiba/Kyoso Shibu, and the Kawasaki/Sugino Shibu. Both are the “mainline” (we really don’t use the term... as far as Shinto Ryu is concerned, it’s either Shinto Ryu, or it’s not... there is no “mainline” or alternate... other groups simply aren’t Shinto Ryu as far as we’re concerned). The Kyoso Shibu, headed by Kyoso Shigetoshi-sensei, is Iizasa-soke’s chosen technical representative, but that does not make them either the sole or de facto “mainline”, nor does it make them the “honbu dojo”. As far as the age of the schools, I would note that the Sugino dojo was established for a decade before Kyoso-sensei’s father, Otake Risuke-sensei, even joined the school, with Sugino Dojo opening in 1928, and Otake-sensei joining the Ryu in 1942.

@pompadour_gagarin1723

4 жыл бұрын

@@dgmgl Thanks for precisions. Frankly I'll easily accept that my use of "mainline" is bad, english isn't my first language and I didn't know what term to use (and sleep was calling). Also I do know that there is no Sugino-ha or whatever, that's why I tried to convey that this is two "dojo" and nothing more (and then re-thinking it, it's true that "mainline" was definitely not a good word). About the ages of the dojo, this is indeed a way of seeing it I hadn't exactly thought of. I typically understood it as: Sugino Yoshio having been authorized to open a dojo in Kawasaki by the eight shihan of then, while Otake Risuke simply took over Hayashi Yazaemon's dojo when he died. Since Hayashi Yazaemon was there before Sugino... But maybe I'm mistaken and the Shinbukan wasn't Hayashi's dojo or anything? Thanks anyway.