I've actually been through bouts of psychosis. She needed help. She didn't have the mental capacity of reason, it seems. Tragic all around. I'm devastated for her husband.

@kedrinmyers4963

Жыл бұрын

She was on sleeping pills and other pills and her sleep was minimal but this seemed planned to hurt the husband

@claricelyles8398

Жыл бұрын

​@@kedrinmyers4963 Agreed

@mattdaniels4979

Жыл бұрын

Nahhh save that for the kids and her husband. They lost the most, those kids can’t get help now. She took their lives.

@nefera1804

Жыл бұрын

Same The lockdown almost took my sanity. I totally understand took me till now to get back to normal.

@agentxorangexskies

Жыл бұрын

@nefera1804 I'm lucky in that most of my friends are online anyways. I experienced some lock down some mental health problems, but at the time I was going through loss of a friend (she met a guy and move states). We were so close that we bought a house and a car with me. It was like an unwanted divorce and it almost took me too. Not being able to going anywhere was so hard on top of it. I'm incredibly happy you survived!

I don't think she was a monster. She was just very, very sick, to the point that she literally lost her mind. This is just tragic.

@LulasSong

4 ай бұрын

You kill you ARE a Monster.

I’ve had postpartum psychosis - it was SCARY… the harm was always aimed at myself though and I had to fight thoughts of extreme urges to hang myself… it was this deep urge that I needed to do it. I called the ambulance on myself and they were really good - I got medication for it and recovered but to have your own brain turn against you is another level of terrifying.

@gwenp3450

Жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you reached out for help!❤❤❤

@sharonthompson672

Жыл бұрын

So glad you're still here and you reached out for help. ❤️ I miss my baby sister every day. 🌹

@drose123483

11 ай бұрын

Holy moly, that's a close call, hope you're doing better, I also had a bad experience, drank poison and alcohol, jus hated My life, then I woke up after a while, vision messed up, saw the windshield washer fluid, started thinking about my family, and found the urge to drive myself to the hospital, was on dialysis for 3 days, still haven't talked to my family about my reasons for doing it, idk why i only told my mother because she was my best friend that would listen to everything I would say, even tho she's gone to heaven, sometimes I jus wanna have conversation with her again, jus happy you dident go thru with it, everyone always has a second chance, ❤

@KATYMCGINN

7 ай бұрын

🙏 GRATEFUL THAT YOU ARE STILL WITH US BRIANNA & ESPECIALLY FOR YOUR BABY & FAMILY. GLAD YOU ARE DOING MUCH BETTER, STAY BLESSED, HUGS 🥰🙏💜💜💜

@KATYMCGINN

7 ай бұрын

@@drose123483 💜 SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU ARE BETTER! I'M SORRY FOR WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH. NO WOMAN SHOULD HAVE TO ENDURE THIS HEARTBREAK. PLEASE TAKE GOOD CARE OF YOURSELF. SENDING YOU HUGS, STAY BLESSED 🥰🙏💜💜💜

This was so depressing The authorities, the medical facility, they failed this family.

@nolongerjuicyboiz4413

Жыл бұрын

The government massively failed her and loads of others by enforcing a lockdown

I hope you know you've helped me begin to start therapy again to better my mental health after surviving an abusive relationship for 3 years. Hearing you ask listeners to search for help if they're abused gave me strength to leave. Thank you. ❤

@abz_414

Жыл бұрын

Sending strength and well wishes...❤

@danielburns01

Жыл бұрын

you got this muriel

@dreasmom2789

10 ай бұрын

Fantastic. It can be hard work but so worth it. Find the right Dr. And don't give up.

@donnajackson2907

4 ай бұрын

I'm so glad that you reached out for help!! I was in a horrible, abusive, relationship for 11 years. The 3rd time I left, (with my babies) I went to the Safe House Shelter. They helped me SO much!! I hope that you are doing well, and moving on with your life!! My heart, and prayers go out to you.

I remember this well. I’m in Melbourne too (eastern suburbs though not north) and it was so so sad. My ex husband passed away 13th March 2020. Right before we went into lockdowns. With 5 kids grieving and no help or anyone allowed in or out it was ROUGH. I’m surprised more of these incidents didn’t happen.

@kacey5324

Жыл бұрын

There were a lot more that took place,unfortunately,but they never made it to the mainstream media

@sarahfranssen

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for your loss. Must have been truly tough for you 😟. I agree with you that more incidents like this didn’t happen…or we simply didn’t hear about them. We did have a very similar incident in NZ from a Mum and her 3 kids after weeks in isolation

@louwandmaker

Жыл бұрын

Ok ok people. There were likely more. Christ. Sorry I commented at all now.

@louwandmaker

Жыл бұрын

@@kacey5324 I don’t doubt there were but thanks for taking time out of your day to point that out to me. It’s funny how people choose to comment on that one thing but ignore the rest of my comment and offer no grace given what everyone went through during that time period….. No wonder women feel so unsupported and helpless.

@louwandmaker

Жыл бұрын

@@LilithsCosmicLounge I don’t watch mainstream news. But thanks for the comment to show just how little empathy exists still.

Somewhere Sinister is an absolute favorite of mine, I can't say how much I love it and how excited I am for the new episodes.

@ldytubbs

Жыл бұрын

Good Morning, everyone ❤❤❤❤

@rubberneckinc.8937

Жыл бұрын

Oddly, I was subscribed to Somewhere Sinister before.This is Monsters. They are both favorites of mine but yeah I joined backwards I guess.

I've isolated myself for the last 9 years. Ever since the day I lost the most important thing in the entire world: my 22-month-old daughter. Yea, I've lost the late 9 years of my life. If I couldve done things differently, I would have but I couldn't. Deep, deep depression ensured that. I couldve met someone else. Had another kid. A family. Instead, I'm now 41 and losing the last of any chance I had of having a family. 😔🥺

@thatoneperson4652

Жыл бұрын

I’m so sorry for your loss 💙

@sadpanda2633

Жыл бұрын

I am so sorry, I truly hope you can heal someday I can't even begin to imagine your pain though.......

@sweetie523

Жыл бұрын

😢❤

@widowrumstrypze9705

Жыл бұрын

I'm so, so sorry for your profound loss. I've lived that shadow life, in grief. Nothing touches that pain.

@jenniferburton7044

Жыл бұрын

You needed that time to grieve a massive loss. No one could blame you, love. 😢 The hole of your wound won’t ever heal but new life will start to grow around it. You deserve to have a life, and to be happy again. Sending you all the hugs. So sorry for your tremendous loss 💕

Shame on her boss for calling the husband but refusing to say anything specific. I KNOW if I overdosed on my meds, my boyfriend would NEVER let me near them again, for my safety..

@annehorrigan570

Жыл бұрын

Weirdly, I think during some kind of mental break, maybe she made an inappropriate move on someone at work (maybe the boss) & that's why her boss said he "wasn't taking care of her at home". Poor gal.

@JeanEDeaux

Жыл бұрын

Society and her boss definitely failed her. True emergencies are not the time to be vague and cryptic 🤡 There was “loosely organized chaos” and death everywhere. It was affecting everyone simultaneously, maybe the boss too.

@_Y.Not_

Жыл бұрын

@@annehorrigan570 What a ridiculous assumption. You haven't a clue but decided to make something something up that probably reflects something in your own life. This could have been anything, something as simple as her husband not getting her mental health help to helping her with the kids or any one of a million things. Her boss should have told the husband why he was concerned instead of calling him with some vague talk.

@nickbuis3307

Жыл бұрын

​@@_Y.Not_ relax it's a reasonable and hypothetical assumption/opinion.

@annehorrigan570

Жыл бұрын

@@_Y.Not_ Shut your fn mouth! Who the fuck do you think you're talking to?Everybody on the damn feed is thinking of the 100 things that could have happened. And you sure don't know shit either do ya? I hate ahole hero wannabes like you, she doesn't need the likes you defending her now.

Hot take but I think the monsters in in this case are the employees of the hospital and mental health facilities that refused to treat her with the level of care she clearly needed, the police department and finally the media. If I’ve learned anything from watching gratuitous amounts of true crime content it’s that Australia, Canada, and England all have criminal justice systems and a press that I wouldn’t want to live under.

@jimmyclimer594

Жыл бұрын

Her husband might’ve been able to help her better if he knew what he was dealing with?

@sixthsenseamelia4695

Жыл бұрын

Where are you from?

@JeanEDeaux

Жыл бұрын

America is not necessarily in any sort of position to say anything about anyone else’s justice system. Like seriously, we really should be completely silent on this topic.

@JeanEDeaux

Жыл бұрын

⁠​⁠@@sixthsenseamelia4695 Canada or maybe New Zealand I’m reeeally hoping😅, because if……”🇺🇸”?? 🤨

@gruffnutz

Жыл бұрын

As an Australian I acknowledge that our cops, justice and ?media are not perfect. Most mainstream media is owned by Murdoch, who is Australian …originally.The fact is, the majority of Australians don’t want to live in a US style police state with incarceration rates only exceeded in the world by China, with crazy sentencing and capital punishment ( we do have life imprisonment and those sentences are used for the most heinous crimes, just not almost every crime). Also we’re pretty happy police aren’t having to shoot people daily. We also have a taxpayer funded health system, which also has some problems but by anyones accounts is a million times better than the US system. These opinions aren’t just mine, they’re based on polls and hasn’t changed despite KZread and SkyFox…I guess we’re stuck with Rupert.

Wow... just wow. Poor Tom. This story is so similar to my sister's- she killed herself instead of the kid but the path - seeing the issues come up, not getting help etc.... gave me chills. Unfortunately, we have big problems in our mental health system.

@danidakota7304

Жыл бұрын

I am so sorry for your loss. If she, just like Kate, received adequate help for her mental issues, maybe they would both be alive today. Bit, it seems that the problem of treatment for patients who experience any kind of mental issues, is a huge problem worldwide. I am from Creator and we unfortunately have a huge problem which is mostly because of patients are too late or wrongly diagnosed with mental issues and then given no or very limited help, which is often "solved" only with strong doses of heavy medicaments and without any other treatment. Many people especially mothers are suffering with various mental issues are simply not taken seriously. It is very sad and heartbreaking

This whole case is unbelievable! I think Tom really did his best but was just so trusting of his wife that he didn't recognize the danger his children were in until it was too late. ANY person who is mentally unstable is a threat to themselves and their children. You would think that's common sense but many people seem unaware of this. And that doctor? A woman tells you she thinks she's being watched through the cameras in her home and you prescribe meds to make her sleep??? You don't need a degree to know that's a sign of serious mental illness! What an idiot! The police should be ashamed and the media as well. This man will never recover from the unnecessary suffering he was put through on the worst day of his life.

@philippal8666

10 ай бұрын

Themselves OR others…. Although when locked down that is not so easy. Postnatal is also awful

Being from Melbourne, the way you pronounced Tullamarine made me crack up. Gave a little bit of happiness in this terrible situation.

@fionabell2931

Жыл бұрын

I'm in Geelong..I had a little laugh too. Love it

@tanniestienie7833

Жыл бұрын

How is it pronounced? Looks like it should be pronounced like that...😮

@rorymorgan3072

Жыл бұрын

Tul-lah-marine

@melmazing3993

Жыл бұрын

​@@tanniestienie7833 like Jethro Tull Tull a marine

@tanniestienie7833

Жыл бұрын

@@melmazing3993 still sounds the same lol! We have a small town called "Tweebuffelsmeteenskootmorsdoodgeskietfontein"roughly translates to "2 buffaloes shot very dead with 1 bullet at one time fountain"!!! I'm in South Africa lol. That's afrikaans!

I really do love that you’ve started to incorporate yourself into the videos. It’s so nice to see the face behind the awesome voice you command. Been a fan since you started. Awesome work🙌

@lauratehan9330

Жыл бұрын

Same!!! ❤

@jenniferburton7044

Жыл бұрын

So true! He has such a nice speaking voice too. ❤

@dreasmom2789

10 ай бұрын

Same here.

Back in the 60's my Dad's first wife died in her sleep, she was an alcoholic & addicted to valium, she choked on her vomit. Coincidentally my Dad had just had all of his teeth extracted & was given sleeping pills to help him sleep that night & he didn't know she'd died until he woke up. Also, his gums had bled badly as he slept & there was blood on him, the sheets & the pillows. When he called the police/ambulance the police took one look & arrested him on suspicion of murder, they told the press they thought he'd killed her... The press then put him on the front page.! "LOCAL MAN ARRESTED FOR MURDERING WIFE".! They never apologised & the press didn't retract their story or even do a follow up to set the record straight, they just pretended it didn't happen. The police obviously held my Dad for a while until they found out the cause of death & when they released him a cop advised him "Do yourself a favour & don't buy a newspaper today"... My Dad being the awesomely chill guy he was, just took it in his stride & didn't let it bother him.!

@jamiemetcalfe7945

Жыл бұрын

That's a crazy story. Your dad is pretty impressive

@saturationstation1446

Жыл бұрын

thats a several million dollar lawsuit waiting to happen

@SomchaiStacks

Жыл бұрын

Am absolute unit.

@vahgeuvje10

Жыл бұрын

Valium is still abused today, was very popular when it first came out, however drinking is a no no when your on benzos. Your dad is the man, God bless you both.

@xlnuniex

Жыл бұрын

In the 80’s, My grandfather found his son dead. My uncle died in his sleep at the age of 20. It just so happened that days prior, he had just had a full physical for his life insurance that gave him a clean bill of health. He never talked about what happened after. But I’m sure the cops made such a traumatic event so much worse. His autopsy discovered that he died of natural causes- heart problem (forgot what it’s called) that was never diagnosed. I’m so sorry your Dad went through that. It’s messed up that the local papers did him like that. I hope they updated the article after it was discovered how she died. Sometimes the police just make things so much worse. Serve and protect, my ass…when they think you’re guilty. Im sorry you went through that too.

You have am amazing voice, your inflection and cadence telling a story is truly unique and enjoyable. Good show!

I remember that time of lockdowns, too. The worst was that you did not know when this all would end and some rules were absolutely not rational at all. When you had no family at your place at that time, that was a real challenge. We all stayed in touch over the phone and Skype, walking on two different pavements yelling to each other. Everytime someone was critically down, we ensured each other that this will come to an end and we just have to be patient. And somehow it worked. None of us got depressions because of Corona. In this case here I have the feeling that she was able to handle life before Corona but when she lost control of what she was allowed to do it took her mental illness rapidly to a higher and final stage.

Don't mind me, just strolling on over to the comments so I can once again be delightfully reminded that not every fanbase on KZread is cursed with toxicity. The pattern of upsetting subject matters surrounding these monsters often makes getting through these videos a bit difficult, but it's comforting to know i can come to the comments section and see that not everyone in the world we share with each other has lost their humanity and there just might be some hope for our species afterall.

@jamiemetcalfe7945

Жыл бұрын

Great comment! I think it's because Jiles is such a great guy that his fans are so kind and thoughtful.

@kairu5607

Жыл бұрын

Great comment and so true, such a thoughtful and compassionate space

@buggiebuild1

Жыл бұрын

I told the commenters on that chapter the very same thing a couple of weeks ago, it’s almost like we are all family, and I have never seen a troll over there, and now that you mention it here as well😇, enough monsters, in the world, we don’t have to be part of the tragedies that we hear of in a negative way👍🏻👍🏻✌🏻💕

@maggiemcgill2471

Жыл бұрын

Good Grief! 🤣Buncha pansy ass crybabies

It’s absolutely sickening how law enforcement handled this crime and victims. Disgusting, unintelligible and lazy to say the very least

@cdes1776

9 ай бұрын

Such ignorant care of the husband adds insult to injury. Your brain can't operate in shock. Pisses me off greatly. Cases like these need more coverage. I guarantee that if this was a cop it would have proceeded much differently.

@Offu-cz9wl

9 ай бұрын

@@cdes1776 you are 1000 percent correct. A couple of years ago an officer in the city I live in got hit by a drunk driver and was killed. He was married w 3 kids and his wife didn’t work so the community had the idea to do a fundraiser/donations to help the family and kids. We just found out this year that it raised over 110k for the family but 52k was deposited directly into the chief of police’s personal account and had told the family and everyone else that it only raised 50k. Only reason the community and law enforcement found out about him stealing was because him and his wife just got divorced and she snitched on him for stealing the money and had proof of everything as she helped him spend the money after. He got 3yrs of probation and less than a week in jail. Absolutely disgusting!!

@cdes1776

8 ай бұрын

@@Offu-cz9wl 'An old boys club' that is, was and always will be. When they are caught for something, their peers pat them on the shoulders, "We got your back." Independent investigation by a third party? They all sleep in the same beds. IMO.

Thanks for telling this story. I live in Australia and have barely heard a peep about it since it happened.

@NickyBlue99

Жыл бұрын

Well what are you supposed to hear about it? Is the news supposed to play the story 24/7?

@rorbot_SMF

Жыл бұрын

@@NickyBlue99What are you being a jerk for? She simply said she didn't hear about it.

@sofascialistadankulamegado1781

Жыл бұрын

@@NickyBlue99 It's a clear deficit of Australias mental health services. The police also had a lot to answer to as well. The entire case was a mess from the very beginning because people are too complacent and uncaring in this country (Australia). The Great Australian Apathy is very much still alive even after covid lockdowns.

@igitha..._

Жыл бұрын

I'm still waiting to hear the stories of the three people that self-immolated in Melbourne, one recently was well as the two that happened during lockdown - one in Werribee and the other in Richmond.....Also I've been waiting on an autism assessment for nearly 18 months now. Have been waiting for an electric wheelchair from NDIS over three and a half years. Sheets farrked.

@NewscasterNews4

Жыл бұрын

@@NickyBlue99 corruption is rampant over there so it’s not a surprise they buried the story

My local story.. Melbourne lockdown was insane (Luckily I’m a touch out of Melbourne) so I had a little different restrictions. Is going to be hard to overcome the long term effects lockdowns have on the population 😔

@laetitialogan2017

Жыл бұрын

100 % agree

Thanks for giving this story some much needed attention. I live in Melbourne and this poor guy got the worst treatment by all concerned. We've had a woman who's ex partner killed their son and then be killed by police who was fauned over by the media and made Australian of the Year while Tomislav has just been ignored and forgotten.

@TheBffTwins

Жыл бұрын

Terribly sad. 💔

@nbrangan

Жыл бұрын

Ah, she was Australian of the year because after this happened, she campaigned to bring awareness to domestic violence, not because the police 'fawned' all over her.

@OhElvira

Жыл бұрын

Are you dense? Do you know what she did after her son was murdered

@dumbasses_R_us

Жыл бұрын

@@nbrangan my bad. I didn't check my comment before I posted it. I meant by the media not the police

@CourtneyTunbridge79

Жыл бұрын

Rosie Batty, overrated in my opinion

Omg mad compassion for this couple, during the lockdown Australia looked like one of the worst places (apart from China) for the treatment of its citizens. I’m from the UK and we didn’t have nearly the same level of brutality and paranoia but it still sent my mental health sideways. I actually had to take a break from this channel after 2021 because I spent all lockdown watching This is Monsters and the intro began to make my mind feel off whenever I heard it, it was nuts! Back to regular binge watching now though ;) I did have more than one complete mental breakdown involving tears, stress, arguments with my bf, paranoia, hatred for others, depression, massive anxiety and a complete detachment from reality. That was the scariest part, feeling as though what’s real wasn’t real and that life wasn’t actually life but more of a sleep one couldn’t escape. The whole pandemic was a massive human rights violation and I’m so glad you’ve covered this case. I’d be very interested in more stories like this.

@sofascialistadankulamegado1781

Жыл бұрын

I was in support of the lockdowns but I never anticipated the severity of it. What made me angry was the NSW police commander talking down to citizens as if they were children, all because people were desperate to go out and deal with their livelihoods and the imminent threat of losing their mortgages/homes. It disgusted me to the core. It was a total disconnect with the people. That's what convinced me that people in power are sociopaths and couldn't care less about who they are supposed to be serving. They are ensuring _we_ are serving them.

@moohHa22

Жыл бұрын

@@sofascialistadankulamegado1781 I’ve replied to your comment twice and somehow my reply keeps on vanishing. I’m wondering what I’m saying that isn’t permitted by KZread 😂

@OhElvira

Жыл бұрын

I got paid to stay home. It was awesome. Don’t be ignorant.

@igitha..._

Жыл бұрын

@@OhElvira You're oozing ignorance.

@moohHa22

Жыл бұрын

@@OhElvira what do you even mean with that? 😂

It sounds like we'll never know what was going through her mind when she committed this horrific act. It was the "perfect storm" of the endless lockdown and inadequate mental health care which led to this. The authorities and the media exacerbated the situation after the fact. Poor Tom. Can't the police at least return his wife's phone to him??

thank you giles ❤️❤️ maybe i’m a psycho but the sound of your voice calms me down so much even though it’s about murder. i listened to the story of mary the elephant today when i napped, and when i woke up listened to it again. now i’m listening to this for bedtime, and i’m sure i’ll come back to it! much appreciation for the time and care you put into these videos/recordings.

@kimwalsh

Жыл бұрын

That's Jiles with a J

@k_isforkaito.

Жыл бұрын

He does have a voice for audio books

@tanniestienie7833

Жыл бұрын

Ja. Very calming and pleasant. Should be a DJ

@morkiemomma7259

Жыл бұрын

Me too..I agree ❤

@ChicagosSinfulSwede

Жыл бұрын

Wait. Mind blown. Send help. I cannot put the voice to the face...or the face to the voice. Either way, I must watch the intro ten times more to try and spot a lipsync mishap. 🧐😂

I'm from Australia, the lock downs here in NSW were terrible ....yet even we felt bad for them in Vic. The government went into fear control (controlling with fear) and the people were literally prisoners in their own homes. Full of stress with no money and home schooling kids plus trying to find a job from home to not lose a house. It was a hard time. So glad and god willing everyone I love is safe just extremely stressed still as we still not back to the norm (have to wear masks to doctors etc)

@mirriulahmirriulah1319

Жыл бұрын

Stop your whining. If one of your family had died because of lack of interest by the government you would be the first to kick up a stink. Just think of the hell that first responders faced during the initial stages and be thankful that you live in Australia as we did better than most.

@JamesBur

Жыл бұрын

tbf wearing masks to the doctors should be a norm, it's safer for everyone especially around other ill people

@kallumnufc50

Жыл бұрын

Fuck the police is what I’m gonna say

@Big_Yin

Жыл бұрын

​@@mirriulahmirriulah1319bootlicker identification confirmed 😂 🤡

@debbieanne7962

Жыл бұрын

I live in Melbourne. Didn't take any notice of the 5km rule. Ridiculous IMO

This is an extremely scary/sad story. Mental health is so important and yet society continuously drops the ball...that poor family.

I hate how Covid messed up so many lives. I was pretty lucky here, out working the entire time and not even remotely locked down. The ramifications of this are only beginning to show. I hate to know how many families were destroyed because of government lockdowns, and fears instilled. Sadly this will just be shelved away as a sad story, and life will go on. Who knows if anyone actually learned ANYTHING from the human casualties - from this horrible period of life? My heart goes out to this family 😭!

@saturationstation1446

Жыл бұрын

lol governments sole purpose is to force people to torture themselves for rich peoples sick desires. there has never been a point in human history (so far) where a government resulted in a net benefit for the human species. they are just mechanisms of abuse for rich people. nothing more.

@Lilybun

Жыл бұрын

​@@saturationstation1446 pretty sure infant mortality has gone down since the hunter gatherer times, i'd say thats a net positive at least

@tessaducek5601

Жыл бұрын

@@saturationstation1446 Yup! Just like war. They use citizens as amusing entertainment. We were not locked down here. Yeah. Businesses conforming compliantly closing. But for the most part nothing really changed. I found it ridiculous and ineffective.

@bluedragonfly8139

Жыл бұрын

Nah, it wasn't COVID that did that, it was the entitled idiots who refused to give a fuck about the people around them who forced lockdowns about caused all the issues.

@bluedragonfly8139

Жыл бұрын

​@@saturationstation1446 lol, not even close to true, but ok.

I took a break from true crime, I’m back and this is the first time I’m seeing you! Awesome!! It’s so nice to see the face behind the voice.

@VALKYRIE12020

Жыл бұрын

I agree

The lockdowns seriously effected people already struggling with mental health issues. Being locked inside your house by the government and excluded from any community is not good for people. It was one of the many horrible side effects of lockdowns that was ignored.

@donnablack6280

Жыл бұрын

Agree totally. What they did to us all, while they partied, was barbaric and must never be allowed to happen again.

@DoggyHateFire

Жыл бұрын

I worked as a crisis counselor during the whole pandemic. It really did a number on a lot of people, especially kids. However, I'm of the opinion that there was never a "good" option with the response to the pandemic. I think decisions were made out of fear and based on insufficient evidence due to the fact you just can't study a lot of stuff until a lot of time has passed. I think a big part of it is it's much easier to link people who actually died from COVID than possible increases in suicide rates and such. I definitely think that mental health should have had a larger consideration in the policy making process, but I can understand their thinking at the time.

@alihenderson5910

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't a side effect, it was intentional. It was a test of people's resilience to government tyranny. We failed and we ain't seen nothing yet.

My heart is so broken for the children and father I hope he’s feeling ok today ❤

Hey 👋 Jiles congrats on 80,000 You deserve it 💪❤️ for All your hard work 😊

I can’t sleep and you drop this at the perfect time, I truly love how much work you put into your channel Jiles. It’s the best gift anyone could ask for.

I'm grateful for my extreme introversion now. Lockdown didn't do shit to me. I was all ready used to avoiding people as much as possible. This is definitely a case of someone who could not cope. I suspect she was all ready developing mental problems and lockdown pushed her over the edge. Tragic.

@cdes1776

9 ай бұрын

Ditto - it played right into my wheelhouse. I need a lot of time alone. So not much changed that couldn't be dealt with. I do know children that had a hard time with it. Young mums with kids NEED to get out and socialize.

@yzettasmith4194

8 ай бұрын

@cdes1776 You are absolutely right about young parents with kids.

Good morning monster fans from not so sunny England!!! Nice to see a face to go with the soothing voice that's kept me engrossed into the sinister people in the world!!!!

So very tragic. The pandemic really exposed how serious one’s mental health is, and this sad situation highly proofs it. I wish someone had been there to recognize her issues. I think her husband was too close to her to really see it.

I listened to Murderous Mary yesterday. Her death and the story was hard to listen to because the people were so bent on seeing her die. You really put great detail into your videos all while educating us on things we may have never heard about. Thanks for all you do.

@juliestrickland7754

Жыл бұрын

That's one of the worst miscarriages of justice I have ever heard. It was terrible.

@buggiebuild1

Жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness, I’m glad I read your comment before I watched that episode, I’ll have to mentally prepare, sometimes the cases really get to me, not depressed, but funky for the day, I have to shake it off with something funny to watch.👍🏻👍🏻✌🏻💕

@maddisonbythesea3015

Жыл бұрын

I too am glad I saw this comment. I definitely need trigger warnings when it comes to animal abuse. Gonna have to skip that one.

I appreciate what you do! Thank you!

Your voice is beautiful. The storytelling is brought to life for me due to your voice from the first time I heard it. I subscribed. Thanks for your hard work.

Thank you, Jiles, for all you do. I support you all the way. Best to you and yours.

Thank you for visiting this case! Mental health is a real thing and a such in such a short order.

@sofascialistadankulamegado1781

Жыл бұрын

Been waiting a year to see a psychiatrist here in Australia. I'm not so bad mental shape in my opinion, but I'd hate to think of how those that desperately need help would be feeling as they wait. Australia is a mess right now. Very sad as it once was a great country.

@lowrider81hd

Жыл бұрын

@@sofascialistadankulamegado1781 I am sorry you have to wait like this. the entire western world is a mess anymore. Prepare yourself for the next “crisis”. Covid was just a trial run.

Nothing like waking up at 3:30am and getting a notification from you - like I can go back to sleep 😂 🇨🇦 thanks Jiles for being an absolute angel for all you do

My nephew lives in Victoria and does not have any positive things to say about their law enforcement. He says it's rotten from the top down. From this programme it would indeed seem to be the case.

During covid I didn't get to see my girlfriend for over a year and my family maybe once or twice, and I'm not a shining example of mental stability anyway. But I did volunteer work in the hospital for over a year during the multiple lockdowns. I'm the furthest thing from a patriot but I'm not going to sit by idly when my people are suffering. Extraordinary times call for extraordinary men.

@alihenderson5910

Жыл бұрын

'Extraordinary men' and women, fought and are still fighting against this tyranny,...you, on the other hand, meekly complied. Don't try and claim to be a hero FFS.

I love these videos and it's one of my favorite channels but I feel like there were so many details missing from this episode:(

@lukedrennan293

Жыл бұрын

How did she kill her kids? Did she kill herself too?

@treyparkerofficial

Жыл бұрын

@@lukedrennan293 exactly what I mean. Apparently she stabbed each kid but not sure where or how and I'm not sure how she died either

I've been listening via Podcast for about 4 months now but today I decided to watch via KZread and im so surprised and happy to see that you are part of the visuals on your videos. Love all your videos. Thank you!

Thank you for sharing this one Jiles! So sad, so tragic....mental illness is out of control in our world, we must take care of those suffering from this, we must provide the financial resources necessary to at least try and begin to combat this, may the wee ones rest in peace, if the doctor knew she was in crisis mode...I don't give a crud about patient/doctor confidentiality....the husband should have been told....no different as when a criminal and/or murderer confesses to a Priest...it should be disclosed to the police immediately. Our laws need to change.

@lisapop5219

Жыл бұрын

You don't know what you're asking for. There is a reason why the laws were put in place

@midnightmadness5307

Жыл бұрын

@@lisapop5219 Excuse me what? Laws protecting the confidentiality of others in trouble and/or involved with murder etc....need to be abolished and you're a juvenile fool okay...learn to read my comment properly and do NOT misconstrue what I said which is precisely what you did. idiot.

@jamiemetcalfe7945

Жыл бұрын

I agree.

@jamiemetcalfe7945

Жыл бұрын

@@lisapop5219 that person is asking for truth and transparency. Not something to be afraid of.

@midnightmadness5307

Жыл бұрын

@@jamiemetcalfe7945 Amen and thanks so much Jamie...Lisa Pop omg 'grow up' no clue, so easy to spot foolish comments. wow.

Tullamarine is not pronouned 'tool-a-marine', but "Tull- a - marine"... :) Thank you for covering an Australian case, things are considerably difficult here....Also when I tried calling Lifeline they told me to write my name on a mirror and put a heart around it. Top notch advice right there.

@zellipa

Жыл бұрын

omg no way so sorry and i hope you're doing better

@mandywalkden-brown7250

Жыл бұрын

You’re not serious I hope??

@sookieb_88

Жыл бұрын

I also giggled at Jiles’ pronunciation of Tullamarine 😂 and good lord, I can absolutely relate to your experience with phoning lifeline. I’ve lived with a delightful plethora of severe mental illnesses for decades, one night I needed someone to talk to, just talk to really, and I’m estranged from my family. I had to wait on hold for 20 minutes before I got through to someone, after about ten minutes on the phone to them I was frustrated by the fact that they were bloody useless, then the call dropped out. I phoned back, crazy long wait time again, so I was like, stuff it I’ll just go to bed. They had my mobile number from phoning them, they didn’t try calling ME back, instead they used my mobile number to look up my address and next thing I wake up to the police LITERALLY bashing my front door open because lifeline had told them it was an emergency with exigent circumstances because I’d probably killed myself. Which was not anything I’d suggested overtly or suggested at in my phone call to them. It’s fair to say I was NOT happy with that response, especially because they STILL stuck me in an ambulance and took me to the ER just in case I was lying about not having taken anything and having no intentions at that time of harming myself, whilst of course my terrace was unattended with NO FRONT DOOR ATTACHED. Lifeline had my number obviously since that’s how they got all the ridiculousness happening but they didn’t try phoning, nor did the cops, not even a knock on the door wellness check, just ram my door in off its hinges. Goes without saying, I have never bothered with lifeline since.

@kathleenchaffin2591

Жыл бұрын

​@@sookieb_88 omg, that's even worse than the US lol. Really sorry you had to deal with such bullshit!!

@nbrangan

Жыл бұрын

They told me I shouldn't nag my husband

Oh this is heart wrenching. I feel for everyone….. I can’t even imagine what he has and will endure. I hope he gets the counseling he needs. I wish his wife would have gotten the help she so desperately needed.

it is so god to finally meet u! I´ve been watching ur videos since the pandemy. shout out from Chile!!

I feel so bad for everyone in this situation...I pray those babies are up in heaven feeling no pain ...and I pray for the father to heal ...and I pray for Katie's soul

I am surprised there weren't more lockdown murders. Horrible to say, but it doesn't surprise me that people who were already suffering with mental illness completely broke in those months. Here is SA, we were completely shut in our homes for months on end, with police patrolling the streets to ensure you were out only with a pass. I was one of those people whose business was entirely shut down, so no income with the bank hounding me for payments I simply couldn't make, while trying to home school my daughter and deal with my husbands depression, all the while worrying about our elderly parents as all of them where in some form employed in emergency services and therefor subjected to the virus daily. In fact, my mom worked in the emergency department of our local hospital as a covid intake nurse. That mental load, day in and day out nearly broke me. I remember just loosing it on my poor daughter one day. Just absolutely slamming doors and breaking stuff over something silly. She was terrified of me at that point, and I have never suffered mentally, so even for me this was scary and out of norm. If it nearly broke me that bad, how much worse was it not on those poor souls who already suffered and then had no support as everyone else was just trying to survive as well. 😢

@melissamccleary9611

Жыл бұрын

There could be more that we don't know about yet. Just like with 9/11.

@TheBaronessIsAwesome

Жыл бұрын

I actually LOVED the lockdown, which often made me feel guilty.

@Mommy2Two8

Жыл бұрын

@@melissamccleary9611 I agree. I hope that as these murders come to light, there is more emphasis placed on proper mental health care. These people did attrocious things and should definitely be held responsible by the legal system, as the victims DO deserve justice. But I hope the take away from this will be that we cannot underestimate the need and validity of mental health care. If support was in place and not taken away in those months a lot could have been different for a lot of people. In the future, should we ever suffer a global pandemic again, I hope this time taught the system that mental health care cannot be left at the way side, until we have recovered. I could have definitely use some proper mental health care in that time. And I cannot help but think that if she was given the care needed, her children might still be alive. At the end of the day we are not talking about a true monster here who are just horrible and liked to do what they did, we are talking about a suffering person who did something absolutely monstrous to her innocent children who deserved so much better.

@moohHa22

Жыл бұрын

You’re quite right, my business was also closed and all novelty seeking behaviour was lost. Sadly, our brains seek novel experiences for mental stimulation (hence why prisoners hallucinate in Solitary Confinement), and the lack of it was crushing to many of us. The lack of straight forward common sense was not so common and I don’t blame us at all for losing our minds at times.

@Mommy2Two8

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBaronessIsAwesome I don't think you should feel guilty. I am normally at home anyway as I work from home. And I love being with my family. If not for the financial stress and the fear for my parents, I would have definitely loved the lockdown too, as I got to just spend time holding them and laughing with them. I think a lot of people were caught seriously unprepared and the stress just caught up to everyone at some point. Enjoying that time, probably indicates that you are an introvert by heart? Which would explain why the situation affected you differently. And again, there is nothing wrong with that. No guilt needed. It is not as if you actively wished people dead. You just enjoyed staying holed up at home.

I have listened/watched your videos for so long I’m blown away I hadn’t previously been following your other channel! Immediately went and followed. Thanks for providing such solid content 💗

Love seeing you, Jiles! Keep up the good work and we will keep coming back…. THIS. IS. MONSTERS.

Melbourne (Victoria) pre-Covid, used to be the most liveable city in the world. Since the long and numerous lockdowns, it’s septic for a lot of people. The more affluent Melbourne people relocated to my seaside community and other ones in Australian states. It’s weird because Victorians voted the same State Premier in earlier this year? Zombie land 🧟‍♂️🧟‍♀️🧟

@laetitialogan2017

Жыл бұрын

Unbelievable..but they put him back in office

PPP (post partum psychosis) is a very rare but extremely serious condition. I do think mothers who succumb to it still need to be held accountable, but I have a hard time categorizing them with your standard "monsters". They literally do not have the mental capacity to comprehend what they are doing. It's completely different from the truly evil parents who annihilate their kids while trying to cover it up and acting cool and disinterested during interrogation.

@jenncarrillo990

Жыл бұрын

thank you bringing this up! i'm a big fan of the show and i know that Jiles consistently talks about the need to destigmatize mental health and encourages people to go get help... but you can't do that and then turn around and call those same people monsters when their illness beats them.

@StiffyLongJohn

11 ай бұрын

​@jenncarrillo990 thats like saying if Hitler had been diagnosed bipolar he shouldn't he called a monster lol a monster is made by their actions. Dosent matter it's a woman and a mother. Her actions are what makes her a monster not her hormone imbalance

Oh my gosh I'm so totally hooked upon this channel. It isn't just because of the stories but also the manner in which the stories are presented. Full of incredible information right down to the smallest bit. I LOVE it. Thank you so much for all of the hard work you do for us; all of us; from countries all over the world. I'm certain other people feel the exact same way.

People with mental health issues should be getting the care and support they need, and during covid it all just broke down. It took me 7 months to get an appointment with a Psychologist in 2021. The medical system is falling apart in many countries. Certainly this woman did something unthinkable, but she should have been treated for her problems immediately also! It is really nice to see you at the start of your new videos also. Some people don’t like being on camera, I don’t. That’s why I started my channel actually, to help with my anxiety. but thank you for that it’s nice to put a face with your voice and I really like this channel

I listen to both channels as I go to sleep 😭🥰🥰

I can’t think of anything worse than what this man has had to go through. I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy

@zellipa

Жыл бұрын

the horror was his

Thank you for your consistent uploads. This is such a sad case.

YES!!! Another awesome video to listen to on my long commute to work!!! Thank you ❤

Love your content!

Jesus . Poor Tom 😢 I feel so bad for him . What a terrible thing for that man to endure. I hope he can have some kind of peace in his heart and mind some day

Im so happy to hear new episodes. Its so great seeing you, Ive been here since your first video and you're just as HANDSOME as I imagined.

I love your voice! It makes your story telling have a stronger effect. I really love these programs

The police in Australia are getting just as F'd up as they are in some states of the USA. To begin berating a suspect about the death of his own dead family is purely disgusting. The media are PoS here. They all think that an apology magically fixes things. No. Australia needs a revolution in Policing and Media. It needs to be tightly controlled.

Your voice is amazing!!! Congrats on all your success, honey! Keep up the great work!

Dude, I’m so happy that you are on camera more. Your voice is fantastic but it’s nice to put a face to this great content!

I love both your channels!!

Somewhere Sinister is awesome! Seen all the releases on it already I only wish they were longer

Katie is not the Monster in this story, the police in how they treated her husband are the Monsters, the Hospital employees are Monsters, and maybe even her boss. If Katie had done something that was so bad and detrimental to the company she worked for, then her boss should have exposed those actions by Katie to her Husband so he would be fully aware of her mental condition. To call Katie the Monster is equal to calling a person with diminished Mental capacities such as mental retardation guilty of committing murder....... As usual Jiles, your work is always top notch!!!!! Please Keep Staying Healthy and to all your Family and Friends, Be Well!!!!!! (Do I have the spelling of your name correct?)

@DPSFSU

Жыл бұрын

On his second channel he made a video called "Jiles, with a J. Things we'll loose when leaving America" or something along those lines. But yes, it's spelled correctly.

Honestly love that we get to see you now! Really dig the new intros 🤘🏻

I really enjoy seeing you speak at the beginning of videos lately. Your voice is really beautiful, so weird given the context of your videos but your voice is a calming clear touchstone, I can focus on your voice and cadence if the subject matter is too much. Thank you for everything you share on this channel and somewhere sinister. ❤❤❤

Hello Jiles... Your channels are great,,....both of them. If anyone should have a ton of subs..it should be you. I have watched just about every utube person that puts out videos. I concluded that only very few put their true emontions into their videos. Not all go back into the person's history and its nice to know about the past of people you speak. I can tell you put a lot of work into your videos. Thank you Jiles.🌼💙

I find it astounding that I live in Victoria, Australia and have never heard this storey. The impact of the lock downs in Victoria were some of the worst in the world. I know there are many more stories like this one that the government has tried to hide.Domestic violence and suicide are all some things hidden from Victorians.

@PicklesBNuts

Жыл бұрын

In NSW, didn't hear anything. You guys had a terrible lockdown time. I agree with you totally.

@alihenderson5910

Жыл бұрын

You all should have stood with those brave people who fought against the tyranny and we're brutalized by the Andrew's Gestapo. I have no sympathy for you jabbed and masked cowards.

I’m really loving the face to face intros and being able to see your amazing collection of shirts. Good to see you reppin’ Winnipeg’s finest today!

I could listen to your voice all day long, Jiles! You have the perfect voice for not only this type of content (true crime), but ANY type of content! So thankful I found your channel, and I am so proud to be a subscriber, and a big fan!! Thanks for all that you do!

Now that we all know that lockdowns are more dangerous than facing any virus or germ, it will be needing force to force us into isolation again in future

I don't think it's clear from this video, but Katie murdered her children by stabbing them in the back, according to ABC news. That's absolutely brutal. She then stabbed herself. She had the presence of mind to wait until her husband was gone, so even if she wasn't a monster before, she definitely turned into one as she murdered her innocent children. I can't even begin to imagine their terror as she plunged the knife into their little bodies. RIP, Matthew, Claire, and Anna.

@farrisovich

Жыл бұрын

Yeah absolute worthless video btw, why have a video like this and not provide details to what actually happened or how?

@ThatSharkGirl

Жыл бұрын

​@@farrisovichProbably vecause it's children, and this is KZread.

@rosejanson5688

Жыл бұрын

Good point.

@randchuck2492

Жыл бұрын

Lol 😂

@WandasLilly

Жыл бұрын

​@@farrisovich {I

I watch both your channels and I absolutely Love them both!! Thank you!

Gosh! It was a pain to get to even see this episode. But your vid was very informative. Thanks so much.

This was tough. A 17 yr old girl my husband coaches left the world last night by train, and it’s hard to think of young people passing. It’s an especially hard tragedy. Like this man, her parents did everything.

This was my home state, and I had a great issue with the mental health card they played for her and the lock downs. I've had clinical depression and anxiety for 30 yrs, were the lockdowns hards, hell yes, brutal. But you were still able to go outside and exercise and meet with one other person for mental well-being. Having a child with ASD/ADHD and attempting home-schooling was impossible, so we ended it, I'm not a teacher and not an expert in dealing with a child with special needs, so we did life skill tasks, cooking, he helped me with home renovations etc. I was doing it alone, as my partner was stuck in another state working. The only person to blame is her, she chose to do what she did!

@sarahholland2600

Жыл бұрын

Seriously? She had severe mental health issues , was suicidal & had a psychotic break. If you know anything about mental health, psychotic breaks mean all logic has left the building. There's no reasoning or rational thought process left. She sought help , but was failed by the system.

@wynonasbigbrownbeaver

Жыл бұрын

I agree! There's no excuse for what she did. Many people suffered through the lockdowns and lifestyle changes because of it but not everyone murdered their children. I don't think she was seriously trying to get help, I think she was trying to placate her husband. If she had been honest with her thoughts and delusions, I think doctors would have taken more drastic measures. It's really sad people like this take out their children with them, rather than just themselves.

Love your work,and the different t shirts everyday ❤

That's cool you have the hot line. Much respect monsters. Been subscribed for 3 years already and never been disappointed. Thank you for the knowledge.

Every time I see one of these stories I imagine how absolutely devastated I would be if something like this happened to my wife, and I don't even have children. I don't see how you could possibly come out of something like that sane. These are the hardest stories for me to watch. I always end up in tears.

Not sure where you live but where I am, you’re always dropping videos late at night and it’s always such a delight to see at an hour nobody else is posting content..not that any channel really compares to this one anyway but ya thanks!!

Thank you for adding CC to your videos. My dad is deaf and i find it frustrating when he can’t really understand the videos I want to show him. Usually the CC quality is poor. Much appreciated ❤️

I really like seeing you presenting the episodes. Thanks, Mr. Jiles❤

Im from Melbourne, about 15 minutes away from where this happened. Such a sad story. Lockdowns were necessary but incredibly tough. The mental health system is broken and needs to do better.

@JeanEDeaux

Жыл бұрын

Definitely necessary. However I don’t think there was literally one person on earth who had had any type of prior experience in planning for or dealing with a worldwide pandemic. Seems like everyone, including leaders and police, just kinda made what they thought were good decisions at the time. Hindsight is seriously a MF.

@igitha..._

Жыл бұрын

You havent read Schwaab's book, have you?

@JeanEDeaux

Жыл бұрын

@@igitha..._ ??

We already have a serious problem when it comes to mental illness, the lockdowns just made it that much worst for people. This is horrific and unfortunately seems to happen more and more these days.

@HeyyyitsLissy

Жыл бұрын

The way they both were just left without any real help, even though the asked for it, is really awful. Especially because of the lockdown, a whole pandemic… i mean there were so many failures here. This poor man and those babies.

Once again, it's so good to see you! Thanks for all you do!

Jules, I really enjoy your videos and have been watching for some time. I wanted to commend you on providing help/info for people in your description. Keep up the great work with your videos, and please remember to take care of YOUR mental and physical health as well.

I don't see her as a monster. Mental illness is a sad state. I learned as a kid when a neighbor killed 3 of her 5 kids, thinking she was protecting them from communism, mental illness is not a choice. The doctors were able to save and institutionalize her. Her family was able to forgive her and visit often. Thank you for all the videos. They are quite the eye openers.

@OREO_EATTIN-t7l

11 ай бұрын

Then give the children away dont kill them

@PippiLong1

11 ай бұрын

​@@OREO_EATTIN-t7l When you are not in the right state of mind, that would not be the choice.

@Homodemon

11 ай бұрын

A lot of people suffer endlessly thanks to mental illnesses everyday yet very easily have never ever harm other people beside maybe themselves. The second that you harm and KILL another fellow human being, no matter the amount and layers of delusions you might be having at the moment is when you rightfully earn the title of being a monster and justice should be administered.

@PippiLong1

10 ай бұрын

I failed to mention, she had also shot herself in the head. She had been receiving mental care, however the warning sign was not there that she would do this. One of the children was sharing with her that they were learning about communism in history class days prior to the event. She ended up in a wheelchair with no memory of what she did and was child like. Her husband and the remining children continued to see her for year's.

@DawnieG

10 ай бұрын

Even if she wasn’t a monster, in her kids’ final moments, she was a monster to them.

Thank you Jiles well done. Such a sad story for everyone involved. Of course the police officers never fell let us down by doing a crappy job. The pandemic was hard on everyone. I am not by means saying what she did was ok. I know my cheese was slipping off my cracker a few times. Crabby 9 yr old having to be home schooled. The schools closed. Ect.

thank you for having the guts to cover all types of topics.

I love your channels. Thank you ❤

These lockdowns worldwide were and are the biggest criminal "science" scandal ever. Such unnecessary loss if lives.

@zizihawthorne44

Жыл бұрын

Agree 100%

@alihenderson5910

Жыл бұрын

Not many here seem to realize this. The compliant majority.

@emiliosentaro3846

Жыл бұрын

🖕"science"

@Barb-iu3el

7 ай бұрын

Crimes against humanity

I hope more cases like this get covered to shed light on how devastating the lockdowns were on so many families and individuals. This is not ok and very sad.