You need to fight for what's right even if you stand alone.

@willieduffie4967

Жыл бұрын

"damn right!"

This may be a bit of a generalisation, but my observations are that once progressive, representatives become elected, they water down their policies and then tend to go main stream. If i were to speculate i suspect they cave in under pressure to follow the party line.

You see this all time. People go into politics blazing and then they get swallowed up by the monster.

I wish Cenk and Kyle had stayed in leadership of JD. I think we’d be having an entirely different conversation

@how050

Жыл бұрын

The whole thing about them asking Cenk to step down is complete BS. So tired that our side have to go above and beyond in showing ethics... all the while republicans don't give a damn what we do. The talking points are going to be the same regardless. He should not have stepped down.

Cenk, I love you for telling the truth about how disappointed we are with the Democrats. I can't stand the Republicans, but I've given up donating to the Democratic Party. Since they care more about Corporate Donors than they do about working Americans, I figure they don't deserve my financial support.

@mikel4916

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree. Give up.

@whenworldsclash7236

Жыл бұрын

cenk sees zero positivity,talks a big game..kills excitement, funding falls,losses happen. he complain about that..rinse repeat...gop love him

@the0ne809

Жыл бұрын

This is what Republicans want. Give up and let the fascists win. Seems like a great strategy.

@goderatorsmite2996

Жыл бұрын

Ah yeah, nothing progressive about the largest green infrastructure bill in history, right. Nothing progressive about the american rescue plan and all the other shit they've done. You guys expect perfection and it's absurd, Biden has been doing a better job than any republican EVER would, and the only reason he hasn't done better is beccause of Manchin and Sinema.. SO BLAME THEM. The President cant' unilaterally fix everything. Wish TYT spent its time teaching its audience this instead of making them hate Biden. Helping Trump get re-elected in the process.

@goderatorsmite2996

Жыл бұрын

@@mikel4916 Stop watching TYT and maybe start researching what Biden has actually done

They shouldn’t ever have thrown out Cenk and Kyle.

@wolfstar675

Жыл бұрын

They threw Cenk out, Kyle left on his own.

@abcxyz123

Жыл бұрын

​@@wolfstar675in support of Cenk

@wolfstar675

Жыл бұрын

@@abcxyz123 Yeah

@awesomeojoe123

Жыл бұрын

@@wolfstar675 Kyle shouldn't have left. What good did that do lol

@garfieldGG

Жыл бұрын

Kyle sure is doing a great job getting Marianne Williamson to first…I mean second…I mean third place in the presidential primary.

Yup, I gave $$ regularly to several Congressional Progressives and 6 months ago the faucet was shut off from mostly watching Jayapal & AOC's fecklessness & weakness. They both want to be the Prom Queens and have forgotten their date that brought them to the dance and I'm tired of feeling I've been played.

I can't remember the last time I heard anything about any progressive legislation. It's nothing but trump trump trump trump trump, always hearing more about trump than the actual president or current events

They lost my respect when they didn't support Nina Turner.

@joedouche3818

Жыл бұрын

Dam right! The ripped her off,

You knew AOC was compromised when she referred to Nancy pelosi as momma bear

To be fair, thanks to Biden's response to Covid, as an Advocate for Individual's with Disability, my pay went from under $12hr. to over $20hr. in two years ... in Missouri of all places.

@browneyedgirl6050

Жыл бұрын

It's hard, because I'm hearing people say similar things. His way of doing things seems to be on the back end, through the companies. There have been a few policies (paid leave, higher wages etc.) that individual companies have taken up, just not law. It's good to have that pressure externally,but that tends to only help a select group of people.

This is ONE of the main reasons that I quit following politics. It's impossible to get ANY congressperson in there that actually speaks for you. I wouldn't even care if they lose on most issues. I get that there is only 11 of them. But at least speak for me while losing. They don't even do that. No way I'm even reading their emails, let alone send them money.

@epcarter6

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s honestly hopeless, they’re all out of touch and completely tone deaf.

Ending citizens united is a good start correct?

@LinkRocks

Жыл бұрын

That would be a great start.

@TheCentristChad

Жыл бұрын

Citizens United helps Democrats more than Republicans. Democrats get more campaign contributions and money. You people don’t know what you’re taking about 😂

@johndelosa2666

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCentristChad, again! LMFAO!!!

@TheCentristChad

Жыл бұрын

@@johndelosa2666 again

Can we finally admit nothing short of pitchforks and guillotines will help us?

@Unzinkable

Жыл бұрын

Or, we could just show up en masse at our local civic centers on a particular Sunday, live streaming to the world, with our families, and courteously explain our position as the final authority over all this real estate. Remember, on paper, we already own this.

Did they even support Nina Turner?

Justice Democrats went to Washington thinking they can change it by playing ball with the insiders. Instead, they ultimately acquiesced to the Washington establishment. This dynamic always reminds me of the quote in the movie 8 mm; "When you dance with the devil, the devil don't change. The devil changes you."

Once they pushed out Cenk, and Kyle followed him, I knew that was pretty much it for this group.

@JonathanB138

Жыл бұрын

Jayapal doesn't need to be in charge of them. She has proven not to be a leader especially during BBB and her stance on Israel's apartheid

Love how they kicked out cenk and kyle who started it, ran away from what they said to do, and now they are fired, and have no idea why.

Being a House Representative must be depressing because they can’t get much of anything through with all those MagaNuts in the House!

What is different from this segment from Jimmy Dore hating on AOC for the "same thing", or at least that's what he says, are you sure you're not using the same argument? Wtf happened to TYT

@LynetteA68

Жыл бұрын

The money is on the right so they’ve moved onto the grift that pays!! Reps & Corp Dems love NOTHING more than to hear so called progressives bash other progressives!! He’s doing right wing & Corp Dems job for them!!

The filibuster in the senate needs to go away and only allow for delay by debate. The Presidential veto is supposed to be the mechanism to require a super majority vote. The minority should not have that power. Fight for 15 needs to fight to set the minimum wage to be the minimum wage needed to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within 10 miles of the business.

Kyle kulinski and tyt needs to reconnect

@timrattray

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. They're on the same page on nearly every issue, and even were when the fissure happened. And, Kyle has actively spoken against Dore now so I feel like the main issue Cenk and Ana had is largely settled.

Time to say it out loud: "Progressive" is not "Democrat" (in terms of the american so-called bilateral politics). "Democrats" are not democrats.

@sharper68

Жыл бұрын

Ya, but democratic voters are the only place to go push progressive policy

I've been harshly critical of Cenk but the dumbest thing the JDs did was let him go. If he was in charge things would be very different.

@waltlock8805

Жыл бұрын

This is why gatekeeping is necessary for any serious group.

@mikel4916

Жыл бұрын

Just like his House race. Oh wait. He lost.

90% of congress spends 80% of there careers just trying to keep getting reelected your lucky if you get 20% out them when it comes to getting legislation that matters pushed through

Frustrating. Starting a new party is so difficult. It's like herding cats to get everyone on the same page. Then you get in congress and you are pulled in so many directions and get stonewalled left right and center. I could never be a politician.

@Notfunnysam

Жыл бұрын

It's a zero sum game.

@JonathanB138

Жыл бұрын

A hard of cats is called a "clatter"

I am not giving any money, to any of the current disappointing representatives, not a pennie

Oh common. Kyle Kulinski came up with this idea and cenk seems extremely reluctant to mention him. Man, you gotta let that petty grudge go. Kyle's a good dude.

@thomaslance5428

Жыл бұрын

It's definitely one of his flaws. I much prefer Kyle for personality.

@MidNiteR32

Жыл бұрын

What’s the 411 on the beef with him and Kyle? Didn’t know they didn’t like each other.

@saintkupo

Жыл бұрын

Kyle did show himself to be a bit of a puss when that whole Jimmy Ana sexual harassment thing was happening.

@Sarah-said

Жыл бұрын

Sorry but I gave up on Kulinski when he said that Russia-gate was BS

@RitchieBlack24

Жыл бұрын

@@MidNiteR32 It came out Ana was sexually harassed by Jimmy Dore and he sided with Jimmy and even agreed with him that it was Ana using it as blackmail. But that guy is so unhinged that even Kyle had to stop being friends with him so now Kyle just hangs out with his wife.

The sad story under this whole trend is the fact that progressives, once inside government, became dependent on staff and donors who are way intro identity politics. This made them defer to ideas and projects advanced by the college-educated professional managerial class that is over-represented in the world of mid-level government, academia, and non-profit management. They dropped working class politics that got them elected in the first place, and got buffaloed by the professional managerial class and its agenda of race, gender and identity. It's killing the left. Only Bernie sticks to class based politics. But there is a lack of overall vision and program. We need more regulation, not less. We need to tax wealth. We need to break up tech and banking. We need a strong livable minimal wage. I hope your broadside of Biden doesn't take votes away. You make Biden sound like a total fail. He is not. And I am a socialist, barely a Dem. 2024 is very soon. Trump 2.0?

@Gambit2051

Жыл бұрын

Well Said!

@B_Bodziak

Жыл бұрын

Look at AOC. She relied on individual donors for her first election, but she accepted PAC money for her re-election. She's rarely in the public now.

@seattlebeard

Жыл бұрын

Nancy Pelosi compelled them to move in that direction in the House. She let them know they would do nothing without her say so. They dutifully became her lap dogs, whether or not they had any guilt about flipping. I suspect they sleep fine knowing they are on the inside now.

@mikel4916

Жыл бұрын

Socialism great until you run out of other people’s money

Not seen Cenk this fiery in awhile. He's really angry with Justice Democrats and gave great reasons why.

@goderatorsmite2996

Жыл бұрын

Cenk is a joke at this point,none of his complaints are based in reality. He's exagerating and he has no strategy at all. He's fooled himself into thinking Biden has no shot, which is an idiotic belief.

@mikel4916

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Cenk will get a lot done. 🙄. It’s like hoping Marxism will catch on. 🤣

@therealjammit

Жыл бұрын

@@mikel4916 What is Marxism?

@Sarah-said

Жыл бұрын

​@@mikel4916you're all over the comments talking BS. Tell us the truth, how much does Putin pay you guys? Or does he put you in prison if you don't turn your quota of Americans against their government?

@mikel4916

Жыл бұрын

@@therealjammit The failed governing philosophy of the 20th century. Now on to Cuba to see how it’s Marxist government is doing

Cenk time to run again!! 🇺🇸

Pass the bills or call out those who don't. That's the job

@BrienDoesIt

Жыл бұрын

But what is that going to do? "You haven't done progressive!" Ok, with no support in Congress, they aren't going to pass anything. You have to have broad support - progressive policies do not have that.

You can never say you are pro life when you don’t give it spit about the life of the mother

I wish I could give more stars for these comments. I am excited about the Justice Democrats but I want and we need more fight!

I ranted years ago about these so-called "Progressives". Now I'm tired and no longer give a sh^t. Done with Progressive and changed to the Independent ticket. As a Black voter there is only so much reneging a man can take. And I don't have any desire to ever return to the Democrats.

Even if you're not a corporate democrat, you can't play the game if you upset the board. Abstaining on populist issues is tantamount to allowing the bought-and-paid-for democrats free reign on legislation.

What happened to pardoning all the inmates convicted of marijuana possession and removing marijuana from the D.E.A.s schedule?

THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA WILL NEVER MANUFACTURE MOMENTUM OR CONSENT FOR A PROGRESSIVE CANDIDATE/MOVEMENT! We must say to ourselves, “I DONT CARE IF MARIANNE WILLIAMSON HAS A CHANCE OR IS A SERIOUS CANDIDATE. I’M VOTING FOR HER IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY ANYWAY!!!!!!

I thought we were going to counter the right wing by voting as a block and they aren't doing that. Politicians always worried about reelection.

@amercanmade2685

Жыл бұрын

Well if voting for something ends your Political Life. That shows that the people that control your fate the Voters do not agree with you.

Be honest. They were shown the money. They got in line.

We don't need progressives, we need revolutionaries, I'm tired of politics being treated like it's sports commentary which is not, politics used to be treated very seriously which is why you had the age of revolution, we made the politicians fear for their lies which is what we need, these politicians have nothing to free from the populous that needs to change

@blackout07blue

Жыл бұрын

Lol. It’s because you goofballs can’t win elections bc you adopt unelectable policy positions which don’t fly in swing districts and states.

They think they are Celebrities 😂

@ryanbarnes840

Жыл бұрын

AOC wants to be part of Hollywood.

Oh no! A rep was too nice to Biden and not mean enough in her rhetoric about a foreign country! Whatever well we do?

Well, I Gotta Say, Way Back When We Were First Electing People Like Aoc, and Ilhan , There Was a Promise Made, To Get Pay Day Loan Interest Down to A Humsn Level. There Was a Promise to Bring Down Credit Card Interest Rates( Which at That Time were in the Area of 12, to 15 %). Today Credit Card Interest Rates Range 23% to 32 %. I Wrote Aoc, Asking About This Promise Made Way Back When. I Get The Run Around About it , But Zero Solid Answers. Now I Like Aoc, But , Seriously, She And The Rest Need To Not Only Give Answers And Promises. They Need to Follow Thru.

Ana hits the nail on the head, it does not appear as if the ones already elected continue to fight, it looks more like they are on their way to become a little nicer version of the common democrat, who does not provide a real challenge to the establishment.

Ana sounds gleeful

We need to start a new progressive movement!!

@huibwetzel9299

Жыл бұрын

A BLUE 🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊PRO(A)GRESSIVE COMMON SENSE BLUE PARTY !!!

@adriancollette7010

Жыл бұрын

@@huibwetzel9299sure pro oil pro pharma pro Corperate pro military. Sounds great!

The reason democrats don't fight these fights is simple. If you live your life avoiding confrontation, you never learn how handle confrontation. You have to actually get into fights to learn how to fight. So while their hearts may be in the right place, lacking the experience necessary to assertively stand up for themselves. if they can't stand up for themselves, they can't stand up for the rest of us.

Jimmy Dore was right about them couple years ago

@niccolea2086

Ай бұрын

Jimmy wants to be right, and that explains who he is. Can we say toxic

It's sad, your representatives by far spend most of their time fundraising.

Voting rights, and no gerry-mandering. The most important thing.

Head of Justice Democrats was on TV attacking Joe Machin for blocking Nira Tanden's confirmation. Who'd fund that?

TYT is officially the Jimmy Dore show.

@WhyNotTruth

Жыл бұрын

Yep and of course they will never admit Jimmy was right, even as they parrot everything he said

@PTRNovi

Жыл бұрын

@@WhyNotTruth Jimmy is a right wing loon

TYT has to understand MESSAGING. When has TYT discussed as a Progressive Policy : HOMESTEADED PROPERTY PROTECTION? If you can't help low income HOME OWNERS stay in their homes, you're part of adding to homeless population. People band together to save their homes. 14 Trans kids in a state being unfairly treated is ok to mention as an issue. But it's not helping poor and low income keep the Real Estate Developers from taking homes from lack of property tax protection. I'm not talking about folks with wealth and income. Most homeowners aren't wealthy. If you aren't talking to them, you can't win.

lack of Bernie, failed to deliver

That is exactly why I stopped donating to Justice Democrats (even though I am not a Democrat)....they stopped doing anything. When the big fights came up, they were totally quiet. So why should I donate? This is not even counting voting records of elected Justice Democrats.

Pass the damn bill!!! YES!! The only thing that matters. Can't pass the bill? Still fight and call people out, and "never not try!"

We can't afford dinner in the evening. How can we give them money? They should have fought much harder on a living wage.

@B_Bodziak

Жыл бұрын

Biden campaigned big on a $15+/hr min wage. I haven't heard him bring it up once since being inaugurated. I'll vote for Biden of hes the Dem nominee, but ill be less happy about it than I was in 2020.

Why should i give them money when the only one thats showing true progressive behaviors if Katie Porter? AOC has backed off her challenges and stopped fighting. And the others aren't making a splash either.

As the saying goes, you fuck around and jd found out. Why people will give money when the same results happen when they keep their money

Did you notice how Cenk reluctantly acknowledged Kyle Kulinsky? lol

@SmashingDesign

Жыл бұрын

Yeah why?

@ph01978

Жыл бұрын

@@SmashingDesign Well one of the reasons is that Kyle took Jimmy Dore side when Ana accused Jimmy Dore of sexual misconduct. He did not want to take a side but was kind of forced into a position.

@kyleknapp6029

Жыл бұрын

​@@ph01978He could have just stayed quiet, but instead he chose a side trying to agree with both on different topics as his way of being "neutral."

@godofthisshit

Жыл бұрын

@@ph01978He did leave Justice Democrats in solidarity with Cenk for being forced out.

@ph01978

Жыл бұрын

​@@kyleknapp6029 Well you forgot to mention the fact that he got dragged in on twitter. It was none of his business yet they had to get him involved. Also, it's been a while, but I recall that he said that he was 85-90% on Jimmy Dore's side. Why do people have to take one side on 100% of the topics.? Seldomly is one side 100% correct in any conflict.

In-fighting is the death of any revolution.

These two choose every opportunity to tear down democrats and are then surprised when they fail?

@LewKain89

Жыл бұрын

Wow, that's your political analysis? It couldn't possibly be Democrats who aren't delivering for the working class right? Drinking the blue kool-aid

@theMosen

Жыл бұрын

Oh right, Democrats fail because a youtube channel criticizes them too much. It has nothing to do with the fact they don't lift a finger to even try to keep their campaign promises.

I miss this program,but feel that you all screwed me over

We have shifted to grassroots but like that example, AOC is reaching my inbox daily as if we get paid daily. Ridiculous. We didn't get crap... loan forgiveness, wages, rights.

Learn from MN. We elected real progressive and got an array of progressive policies passed this year like Paid Family Leave.

@philliphessel6788

Жыл бұрын

The *Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party (DFL)* is the Minnesota affiliate of the U.S. Democratic Party. When they merged, the Democrats were the junior partner, the “third party” in the state. The Farmer-Labor party was further left and bigger. The heritage may have contributed to the success, even after four decades of neoliberalism, at achieving such substantial measures. Certainly there’s an organization worth learning from!

The separation and discord between Cenk and Kyle hurts my heart. 😔

Then it's your job to take up LEADERSHIP! - Cenk! Your attitude, while correct, isn't helping.

On the one hand you call out “extreme leftists” about defunding the police and prison abolishing. Then on the other hand you’re mad at elected justice democrats about how they stay elected. The right doesn’t generally make these distinctions to their audiences to fracture their own electorate. The right keeps focus on radicalizing through culture wars and they win with that. And as much as you criticize the justice dems for not pushing leftist policy, why aren’t you pushing policy that radicalizes? All you need is people reporting/emailing from the local level about policies that affect them, and make that an issue that our justice dems can fight for.

Time for a full blown Socialist third party.

I am so grateful for your opinions on this show, especially this show today. I hope the dems listen. We desperately need them to listen and act.

Biden allowed more oil drilling to increase supply. This was summer of 2022 when gas was $5/gallon in most places. It's not like Biden has to please the progressives only. He has to serve ALL Americans so dont fault him for that. High oil prices leads to high inflation.

We can’t give up!!! We have to primary the “justice” democrats who are WEAK and SPINELESS. We must back Marianne Williamson not because she has a chance of winning, but because voting for her in the Democratic primary will send a message to Joe Biden that WE DONT LIKE YOU, AND WE WILL DO ANYTHING TO KEEP CORPORATE DEMOCRATS FROM HOLDING THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!! #MarianneWillimson2024

@MrGolov-te5eb

Жыл бұрын

Democratic party is a graveyard for the left.

@juanramos.jr.7948

Жыл бұрын

Let the Republicans win and lose voti.g rights, productive rights , lbgtq rights and then corporations get all the power and then maybe you will learn to be more democratic and less cultish

@supremeio5930

Жыл бұрын

Basically, your strategy is still trying to change the Democrats. ...the definition of insanity is...

@juanramos.jr.7948

Жыл бұрын

@supremeio5930 l think her strategy is to make sure Trump does not get in again because we won't have to worry about democracy. There won't be any democracy to worry about. No one's opinion will matter

@supremeio5930

Жыл бұрын

@@juanramos.jr.7948 My comment was to the original commentor. It says nothing about Trump and clearly speaks of voting for Democrats against Democrats. As for your propaganda. The US hasn't been a democracy in decades. It is a plutocracy, (corporate oligarchy). And the Dems have put in laws to take away rights and have done more to repeal, destroy, or make ineffective the New Deal/Anti-trust laws. You should go tell the Democrats that Trump is this danger you think he is. Just sad because for DECADES the lost of democracy has been happening by BOTH parties. You just noticing and thinking it's because of Trump is sad and/or you buying propaganda. The Dems fast-tracked judges for Trump, they extended the Patriot Act under Trump, they expanded NSA surveillance under Trump, etc, etc, basically, they gave him MORE POWER. But sure the Democrats are the means to stop him. 🙄 But sure keep saying, "...stopping Trump you are saving democracy" showing your position is just based on party nonsense instead of actual policies.

Even if they lost people would donate if they see them fighting

Sorry I'm having trouble affording food at the moment.... Funding for justice democrats will have to wait.

@georgeglass3680

Жыл бұрын

(and gas)

At least they got something done compared to Trump.

@thorfinsky1427

Жыл бұрын

Are you kidding? Trump got over 280 rounds in at a cost of only $100,000,000. 🏌‍♂⛳

This breaks my heart

Nina Turner wouldn't do this! She'd have major plans! American needs Nina!

@doody244

Жыл бұрын

There is nothing worse than being a sore loser. I was guilty of being one once upon a time. Luckily I outgrew that horrible behavior when I was eleven or twelve. I’m happy twenty of my evil and malignant ✡️ 💵 went into crushing her 😀. When Crowley lost to AOC in 2018 he played her a song and wished her well like a true gentleman. Plenty of people tried to get him to run on a third party or independent ticket. NY, CT, & IA are the three states without sore loser laws so legally he could have.

@hezekiahramirez6965

Жыл бұрын

@doody244 Nice to meet a fellow member of (((The Establishment))) She doesn't want our evil money so I'm glad she stuck to her principles and lost. Obviously we members of (((The Establishment))) only want politicians we can control. Because it's all about the Benjamins and the agenda of (((The Establishment)))

Cenk, i think they are trying to do too much at once. Start with Small focused policy wins, build from there. The other side has big money, gotta play the long game.

One of the worst cases of a gas leak I’ve seen

Great Rant, Cenk !!! Glad you got Anna to keep you sane. Calm down. Think of your Blood Pressure ! Live long and Prosper ! xx J.

They have proved to be grifters

We have 3. 3 major issues. All other issues are important but they are NOT the corner stones of suppression in this country. 1. Income inequality 2. Healthcare 3. Climate change All other issues are important but they do not make up the bedrock of suppression. If we as citizens felt safe in our food on the table, roof over our heads, safe about our future, safe with our health. The hate would die down. The hatred we see today is misguided from the insecurities we feel today as citizens. Remove the insecurities.

@kevinmcconnell3641

Жыл бұрын

You are totally wrong in your list of most important issues!! The number one most important issue is the fight AGAINST voter suppression! The number two most important issues is ELECTION OUTCOMES PROTECTION! No less than fifteen red state legislatures are moving to give themselves the authority to overturn/ignore outcomes on ballot initiatives they don’t agree with!! I live in St. Louis county missouri, once in 2018, and twice in 2020 our red legislature tried to go against 65% vote outcomes on ballot initiatives. Fortunately our center left Supreme Court told the legislature, YEA NO, and forced them to give the voters what they voted in support of!! You piss and moan about crap that can’t be accomplished without majority votes!! Protect voting and outcomes, then whine about the things you want!! The Party of Stupid Cowards ran on the dead horse that is abortion in 2022 and they lost the house majority, and the one senate seat that gave them a clear majority. And what are they already running on for 2024, fuching abortion again?? Cowards a cause they are afraid to tell abortion rights people the truth, stupid a cause they won’t make voting rights, and outcomes protections number one!

@basedgamerguy818

Жыл бұрын

yeah those insecurities are on purpose

I propose to Anna to cut your mic level 1.5 decibels and or remove some of the range compression and take off 2-3 DB in the 3000-5000 hertz range to make your voice sound more smooth. Anna's voice profile has become more and more annoying like Fox News hosts and it make my blood pressure spike.

And we were IMMEDIATELY sold out by the same politicians we got elected.

@blackout07blue

Жыл бұрын

in what way?

I stopped giving a while back because EXACTLY what you guys are stating.

Labels are our worst enemy. Too many people rely on a word to define ALL their beliefs, policies, way of life, etc. As easy as it would be to put every single person in a nice, neat, little box, people needs to pry open their minds juuuuust a little more and understand that life, people and thinking transcends single labling and single words. In this case, you can't assume progressives are all this way and conservatives are all this way. Most of these politicians are just scummy and I think the almighty dollar has far more to do with their scummy practices than just ideology.

Maybe now Democrats will win some purple House seats in 2024. Name one swing seat where a progressive won other than Katie Porter? There are several important distinctions with her. There are issues she positions herself with the mainstream Democrats, 🇮🇱 being a big one. Her brilliant campaign staff pushes that “ minivan driving midwestern(wholesome) mom” angle which absolutely works. Wisconsin was such a vital potential pickup. I don’t dislike Mandela Barnes but I knew he’d never win statewide. LT Gov does NOT count. It’s a ceremonial role. It’s most important function is to “balance the ticket”. An older white moderate picked a young black left wing guy made perfect sense. I’m begging the people of MI to vote for Elissa Slotkin in the primary. We can’t afford to lose that seat.

That's always the problems on the progressive side. You can have millions of ways to change, but only one to keep everything the same. So progressive politics are always a compromise and compromises always leave everyone unhappy. With conservatism you can paint a picture of "not changing" or "going back to yadayada" and if you convince the people that goal was reached everyone is happy.

To be honest, I didn't know the Justice Democrats were still around or if Andrew Yang was still with his own Forward Party! KZread is available, why aren't videos being made by either organization? Breaking Points and Katie Halper are doing it-- do they have more money? More ingenuity?

Justice democrats hasn't passed a bill.

@mickael486

Жыл бұрын

They have introduced many good ones.

The more you trash Progressives the fewer Progressive run. Stop!

@TheSuperScoot

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't matter if the ""progressives"" aren't going to fight against the establishment. They deserved to be trashed.

@nura1627

11 ай бұрын

Seriously, Sharon! Some strategy ... K'vetching to high heaven about their closest allies in Congress? Sounds like they're just posturing to try to distance themselves from this failure. Methinks he doth protest too much.

That’s a real shame. We need them to go strong right now. We have the ball!!! RUN THE PLAY. BOOT ON THEIR NECKS!

@georgeglass3680

Жыл бұрын

Delusional.

@BrienDoesIt

Жыл бұрын

We have the ball? Which one?

This is why I love TYT. This! While I get drained from the rants that excuse people for exercising their freedom of choice and decision-making (They watch Fox News. They don’t know any better and therefore have no accountability… Florida voted for Obama twice! They can’t be racist…) That said, THIS is why I love TYT. This honesty. This ownership. Calling it what it is, regardless of who is involved, is the only way we move forward. With regard to Justice Democrats, Democrats are known for making promises they don’t intend to keep. We all had hope, but aligning with either side is problematic (Not equally, but problematic, nonetheless.) Identifying with right-leaning organizations means you’ll have some hate on your menu. And aligning with the Left means, at some point, an order of empty promises will be delivered. I hope they wake up and do better. In the meantime, I hope we wake up and do better.

@REfan001

Жыл бұрын

They are trying to move left leaning people to the right and trying to make give up

Talk to us. We're willing to fight. Get off your pedestal, get with the people

Yall sound about right to me.... I see the donation text and emails today and I ask "for what?" 🤨😒🤦🏾‍♀️

@keannabrumfield6562

Жыл бұрын

Am I wrong? 😒 We elect these ppl to make things happen. If you're not going to do the work, we need to do what we need to and change that.✌🏾 The progressives didn't "DEMAND ON EACH BILL" for the minimum wage correction/ whatever we could come out with. And a whole lot of other things like RENT, etc. The only reason I still want to help is because they seem to be all we have in the fight for better lives.

It's almost like a dozen house members isn't enough to dramatically change anything. Can't tell if this is fake rage in bad faith or if yall just literally don't understand how politics works.

I think the way Cenk and Kyle were forced out was awful, much like how Jeremy Corbyn was smeared by ‘New Labour’.

@kyleknapp6029

Жыл бұрын

Cenk was the only one forced out, but Kyle left because of what they did to Cenk.

@mobsiesixsixsix9785

Жыл бұрын

Not going well for Labour now though is it. They've suddenly realised they can't win without the left.

You have a platform to support them. Use it. Don't act like gatekeepers.

@richardowens9061

Жыл бұрын

TYT has been supporting Progressives on their platform for decades. But, it is important to acknowledge that they're not doing their jobs properly - because, they're not getting anything done. I can't point to a single piece of Progressive legislation that has been passed in the last ten years. Can you? At some point, we just have to call it what it is - incompetence and lack of leadership. Remember, we cannot solve problems we are unwilling to admit we have.

I stopped supporting the Justice Democrats organization when they pushed the Founders, Cenk and Kyle out. I still support the founding ideals and goals but as we see the organization lost the focus and is apparently failing now