I've come to the realisation that Dogma 2 just wasn't made for those of us who understood and appreciated the original in the same way that Oblivion wasn't made for people who understood and appreciated Morrowind

@ericmm123

Ай бұрын

Yep, it was made for a newer casual audience that they wanted, and it worked. They got the sales amount they hoped for while older fans who kept the series alive are thrown to the side. Expect it to get worse like it did with Oblivion to Skyrim for DD3, more dumbing down and simplification. Another series lost that I'm not looking forward to anymore.

@marcpolain9663

Ай бұрын

I’ve lost count of all the ways I’ve easily killed Daimon whilst farming BBI lvl 3 gear. In DD2, I haven’t had to Godsbane in front of a chest once, it’s awesome.

When I killed a Dragon in DD1, it felt like an accomplishment,when I kill a Dragon in DD2 its just another day at the park. DD2 wasn't made for the Hardcore players that kept this franchise alive for years but for the casual who scoffed at the difficulty of the first game.

@marcpolain9663

Ай бұрын

I’ve done so many Daimon runs that I can’t be effed doing any more. I enjoyed DD2 and several of my first dragon fights were difficult. DD1 I just choose strider and defeat everything extremely easily. Baby mode.

@federicocasali1565

Ай бұрын

​@@marcpolain9663 yeah I'd say on both games you have to tailor the experience to your tastes, cuz both have some really broken stuff, like mage/, sorcerer with holy focused bolt melting anything in BBI when you have a decent staff, blast arrows, throwblast etc you can trivialise both. That said I hope they add a proper hard mode and that they work on an expansion pack like dark Arisen

well, that was fast bitter black residents - run 4 ya lives!

@HammboneBob

Ай бұрын

It's too late, they're already dead! 😭😱

Yeah the thing about DD2 is that it hasnt made the original obsolete.. ill definitely be going back to DDDA

I feel it too.. Every single word.

I'm kinda relieved I couldn't afford DD2. I only started playing DD last year and was so excited my new favorite game was getting a sequel so soon(soon for me). As a rule I never preorder or buy on day one, but I was going to make an exception for DD2. Finances didn't allow me to do so, thankfully(yay for being broke). So disappointing how it turned out. Maybe in a few years after some updates and I can pick it up for 5 bucks like I did the first one it will be better. BTW, your videos really added so much to my enjoyment of the game. I think I've watched almost all of them by now. I play with kb+m and really struggled with the controls at first and almost just quit completely, but I kept seeing your vids and it looked so fun. Finally got my gaming mouse setup where I could play decently and have had a blast since. Also, MK is my fav vocation but I had hell getting perfect block down. Kept rewatching your MK and perfect block vids until it finally all came together. So, thanks. Really appreciate how in depth you get.

Very rarely is the sequel an upgrade on the first game. I always go back to games like Mass Effect, Dragon's Age: Origins, Morrowind and Fallout: New Vegas, because the sequels just don't compare.

@chuckchan4127

Ай бұрын

Ironically New Vegas is technically a sequel to Fallout 2.

@Darumaster

Ай бұрын

I mean I still go back to that as well lol

@marcpolain9663

Ай бұрын

@@Darumaster Fallout 2 is a sequel to Fallout.

@Darumaster

Ай бұрын

Genius

@SparePencils

19 күн бұрын

@@marcpolain9663 Wait till you here about the Prequel to Fallout - 2025, cant recommend.

i admire your passion Nihil you hit the nail right on the head every time

Can we get a whole playthrough of the game, all the side quests and you rambling? You can even talk about the music in the game, and your favorite characters. What non monster animal is your favorite in the game? I really like the crows.

I agree with everything said in this video. Long live Dogma 1

I got back to DDDA over a month ago. It is good to be back, and It is good to know your videos are always there for reliable, exhaustive test proven info. DD1 is just unmatched when It comes to gameplay. I've been mostly trying to pull off crazy stunts like getting the Golem to fall off of the cliff and into the water. I managed to do It a couple of days ago, but I was on It so I had to jump off of It as It was falling or it would've been the brine for me 😅 I also go to the vallistas often cause I love seeing those big cyclops fall, and snipe the smaller goblins from far away. I'm also filling out all the stars in my pawn's bestiary, quests and travels since I noticed I still had a couple of 3 stars I needed. Like how the Dripstone cave 3rd star can only be unlocked by going through the back entrance during the first saurian quest. The next thing I wanna do involves bullying Griffons, which I managed to get one that just did not want to fly away, it was VERY pissed off at me and gave me the chance to see its different behaviors under different circumstances. I've also never tried holding unto it as it flies with enough stamina curatives. I better equip the grace augment for that 🤔

As someone that played the dickens out of Dragon's Dogma before it even had DLC and lost the heart to pick it back up again after my 360 died, and my saves with it, your videos have consistently struck the right balance of familiarity to make me feel nostalgic for it but also inspiring enough to come back and try things differently. I still hold hope with a little time they'll fill out 2 with a DLC that gives it as much renewed life as Bitter Black did for 1, and maybe give some use to the emptiness you mention. But in the meantime I can't help but kinda be excited to see you play 1 again while I'm clearing it myself as well!

I too feel dd2 is a lack luster .. I sort of agree with niel on this

Nihil, I completely agree that DD:DA is objectively better across the board, with graphics being the sole exception. I don't know how Itsuno and his team whiffed so badly on the sequel. They literally had a successful blueprint in-hand and over a decade worth of player feedback to guide them on a sequel. I hate to say it, but Dogma 2 feels like it was exclusively built around what Itsuno initially wanted DD:DA to be, and gamers were expected to get onboard whether they liked it or not.

@marcpolain9663

Ай бұрын

DD1 is my favourite action rpg of all time and I still enjoyed DD2.

Kinda proud didn't fall for the DD2 trap... I somehow knew it will be bad.

@hemogoblin69

Ай бұрын

I havent seen anyone say its bad

@KaoshiSan

Ай бұрын

@@hemogoblin69 it really isn't a bad game I've had my fun moments with it, but I also knew it wouldn't surpass DD:DA and DDO considering the state of modern gaming nowadays, but they took out so much more that I thought of what made the original game special, if you were someone that really loved the original (is my fav game ever) then you'll feel let down.

You've been a handy tutor for 5 years but I concluded Dark Arisen offered more combat fun than DD2 so I don't even mention the Vanilla game any longer. Ryota Suzuki (combat designer) was Capcom's loss and since 2020 he's with Square Enix after 20 years with Capcom. Welcome back Nihil 0.0!

Thank you man for honest review. DD2 is such disappointment for any sane Dragon's Dogma fan. It's not remake, it's not reboot, it's more like an attempt to reinvent the wheel. If they'd took DDDA and ported it to new engine, polished the main story, added few nice game mechanics, slightly rebalanced the vocations, improved the pawn's chatter it would be a way better game than this. Luckily we still have DDDA and DDO revival project to play.

With the second, They really weren't masterworks all, they did go wrong. Saddens me a lot.

I only really got into playing DD:DA tihs year. Played about 10 hours 4 years ago and didn't get it. This year it really sucked me in. I'm more a casual player (2nd run on normal) with 436 hours and lvl 155-ish. It's replaced Warframe as my go-to game after 2,800 hours. From what I've seen of DD2 in reviews, discussions etc it looks like a reboot of the original DD with nicer graphics and animations (due to a modern engine) made by a team consisting of hardly anybody who made the original or can remember playing it extensively. It's like Porsche making a small sports car after 10 years of SUVs only. The engineers who had the knowledge and experience have moved on years ago. The manufacturer doesn't know what made the previous cars great so creates a vague approximation in the hope that it will be "good" enough for the market. I'm definitely in no hurry to play it. I'd rather wait for an expanded, reworked DD2 Dark Arisen in a few (4,5?) years time. And if that doesn't happen, well I'll wait for it to be in a bargain bin sale I guess. Maybe I'll get around to reducing my Pile of Shame instead 😉

Masterworks all, can't go wrong

right there with you, still many interesting paths to take playing through 1 I exhausted DD2 in a week did some challenge runs to get 'late game' vocations on a fresh char don't really feel like going back to actually 'play' it again even with what I felt like was a cool start..

And you're going to make me start a fresh game again... This happens about every 2 years, like some sort of weird ritual 😄 Thanks for the vids as always. ✌️

thanks man ^^ gonna enjoy the watch

quarry and shadow fort are probably my favorite. i like killing big stuff, and the quest alone allows me to kill 3 ogres, 1 dragon, 3 cyclops, and too many goblins.

what is ur favorite build in dragon dogma 1 ?

I have also returned to DD1. I still have hope for DD2 and I have enjoyed my first playthrough enough. (also glorious 360p) (≧∇≦)

360p gang

so true mate, i totaly feal the same. dd1 is god tier. dd2 is generic in comparsion... i was so sad when the realization hits me the first time... i still am. played dd1 for year, hoping that one magic day... maybe there will be a dd2... and then we got THIS. where is the endgame? the unmoored world just is not the same as what dd1 offered... :(

@Lucy2Juicy

Ай бұрын

Unmoored is so horrible compared to only either of Post game Gransys or Everfall. It can in no way compete with both as the entire post Dragon game

I'm still not sure if I'm going to get DD2. Maybe one day? Everything I've seen makes me feel like I'd only be playing it for the graphics (I like the way it looks) and the fact that I love DD1. But with all the videos I've watched on KZread, I can't help but feel that I'd rather play the first again. My biggest critique as a watcher only, lol, is that it does seem a little too easy? There have been many times in DD1 where I've actually run from enemies out of fear lol. But I don't get that sense from DD2. A lot of the bigger monsters seem slower and not as menacing. The thing with DD1 too is that I've barely scratched the surface even though I've been playing it for so long. I've barely explored BBI because of my commitment issues (I always wanna restart lol) and I'm so indecisive about my Pawn / Vocations, where I spend my time, etc. I also love the story and side quests in DD1. I still remember all of them by heart.

The ‘difficult’ 2nd album/novel, mebbe dlc will up the experience…. Though the Bitterblack isle gauntlet will always stand the test of time

1:38 memorable characters Pablos..... My name is Pablo (Paul) hehehe!

I agree.

I'm shocked to see you do more DD1 content, I was convinced everyone was guzzling that game to the max still despite it being a massive disappointment.

Is this supposed to be 360p only?

True

😍💯

Dragon's Dogma 2 when

I know a lot of people liked dogma 2's post game but ngl I didn't, I prefer dogma 1's post game with the everfall and stuff.

I dont mind the npc is boring. But they made the main Big dragon 1000x boring? Chase scene replaced by 8 hours yapping? Thats the one thing youre not supposed to fk it up

Good to be back isn’t?

would love to know the name of the song at 10:30

Shame you have not enjoyed DD2 as you do DDDA but I’m glad to see you back on the Original game

@1who4me

Ай бұрын

Why is it a shame? Did you have some unrealistic expectations?

@AbyssalAnguish

Ай бұрын

@@1who4me as a DDDA veteran I enjoyed DD2, don’t act like it was BAD game. It was still enjoyable capcom Just missed a few major points which we enjoyed in the first game

@marcpolain9663

Ай бұрын

Just gotta add, this gameplay hilarious AF. Nihil trying to act like anything in the base game is difficult when he’s the BBI master and BBI 100x harder than the basement. You and that ogre were just going up and down a hallway doing literally the same moves. True dogma fans are all about the pawns and how the change the gameplay. If you’re so worried about playing solo, go play Elden Ring.

This makes me want to go back to dogma 1. Dogma 2 was alright but felt like an overall downgrade that makes dogma 1 look better. There is also the incentive to to revisit areas for the respawning loot in chests that are more rng unlike dogma 2 where the loot was guranteed.

Wait question dragon dogma 2 was bad ? Also what class is your character? And name of the songs please

Okay good, cause after seeing 2 i went back to 1 to just get better at it. Now ive beaten grigori on hardcore at level 42, with not even a halfway leveled vocation warrior and just having fun

Thank you /[T]

I'll wait for the expansion before giving full judgement. Base DD1 and DDDA are wholly different beasts, although you would have hoped that they'd learn their lesson with DD2...

Nihil, I enjoy your content and your passion for the franchise, DD is my favorite game of all times. That being said, i want to ask, what is the reason behind your criticism? Do you hope to bring Capcom's attention to the problems DD2 introduced? Or is it more like venting ? In any case i hope capcom can take something positive out of it, and improve dd2 however they can. I do agree with some stuff you mentioned. Comparing to food, DD had a unique flavor while DD2, while still enjoyable, feels a bit watered down. I can understand the pain of having franchises not following up on its predecessors, but i believe your criticism can help them see that. I'd just say becareful with not sounding too toxic or acidic in the way you present it, otherwise people might immediately turn their defenses up. Keep it up!

@dmitrypavlov7096

Ай бұрын

Capcom doesn't really care. Only money they care about.

So you really disliked Dogma 2, Nihil... who could wait for a result like that? ;T I mean, it was in developtment some time after DMC5 , but we don't know for sure if it was pre pandemic or not. Funny 'cause i didn't seen Cringe complaining about Dogma 2, and you are the most veteran one i think i ever seen on YT, of all channels. I don't have a PS5 right now nor a job to het me one plus DD2, but i'll surely want to give a try. I've been wishing to see a new entry for SO LONG, so i still have faith in the upcoming DLC All glory to Lady Maddie (Madeleine), btw ;D Busty blonde wants munny, haha

Dogma 2 should of been dogma 100% completed

wdym you’re done with dragons dogma 2??? that game hasn’t came out yet!!

lol, I expected no less from you

Damn

I haven't played 2 yet (too expensive for the disappointment I know it is), but I believe you, I knew since it was announced that it wasn't gonna be as good as 1, literally impossible, not only did they had to make up for the 40% dogma 1 we never got, they also need to improve on that; too big of a shoes to fill, not to mention the inevitable dumbing down on gameplay to make it more accessible and whatever woke crap they added to it.

makes me glad i dont have the system to run DD2

With the amount of hours you pour into DDDA, I wasn't expecting you to like DD2 at all. I don't know I've been a gamer for over 30 years now I can see when a game is "love" and no other game can replace it, not even a sequel. It happened on so many other games/sequel too. Your reaction is totally expected, my wife said this is our generation's "old man romance", like how our grandpa only likes the old songs instead of the new ones. Nothing wrong with that, i find myself enjoying old games more too instead of the new great ones, maybe its age i dont know

Dragons Dogma 2 just doesn't cut it for me bros

I agree with your opinions wholeheartedly. Dd2 is a good game but it doesn't compare to DD1. I wish both had 60 fps on console though 😂

true! the world of dogma 2 is empty. I get you and I agree. when it comes to npcs and npc interaction, it was not well written and programmed

Even if they improve the performance in DD2, it won't matter. It's not a great sequel. Improving on or making a DLC for DDDA would have been the better and more cost effective choice for CapCom. Seeing as how crapcom isn't making wise decisions these days.... it's nice to still have DDDA and modders.

Where there is life there is hope brother. I honestly feel that corporate greed forced an early release rush job on game that did not have the full support of capcoms resources. Robbing the devs and the gaming community from a potentially amazing result. Maybe the future will prove that corporate types can learn from their mistakes and there will be peace and merriment throughout the land. Until then we must wait search and pray.

Personally, I've never played a game as much as ddda. I wish i could add some things and i would probably play this game forever. Some things in it, i never get bored of. But after some point its not a challenge anymore. If i could add tattoos, clothes, cities, pvp, clans and staff like that, i would play it till i died probably. I still visit it once per 10 days but just for some bitterblack battle.

DD2 was disappointing to me. It is not a bad game and the warrior there is a better warrior than DD1... but that's it. It's different where It wasn't needed and worse than DD1 where we wanted something better. Sad.

I can’t vibe with DD2 as much as I want. I remember meeting Grigori way earlier then I expected to and it me out of the game. Going to have to reinstall DD1 and wait to see what happens with DD2 (there are things to like about DD2 ofc and stuff it has over DD1).

It's a shame Capcom felt the need to go so hard on the graphical fidelity and world immersion at the cost of the things that made Dragon's Dogma so unique.

Dogma 1 > Dogma 2

I don’t want to give up on DD2 cause as much as the story and quests were a let down, they weren’t amazing in DD1 either. DD1 was just decently coherent and had an actual conclusion to the plot threads they introduced. DD2 just introduces plot points and never addresses most of them; they’re only used as an excuse to get you to point A to point B. Despite that, I feel at least DD2’s gameplay can be addressed with a DLC. If they add a proper endgame like BBI and hard mode to DD2 with new vocations and old Vocations that reuse existing weapons in new ways I think my main issues with the game would be resolved. As of now the gameplay is just too 1-dimensional and there is no proper endgame to push the combat to its limits.

The only enemy that got a bit more difficult in DD2 more than DD1 is the Golem. Unfortunate

@Nihil0.0

Ай бұрын

I thought the same, but after every disc has busted, he freezes and slows for awhile which turns out to be easier

Although dd2 is a open world game, the map design is kind of linear....it take away so much fun from exploring the world. Also, the physics change touch, the run, walk, climbing, all are different. Yet, ddon is the same on this aspect ....It make dd2 feel so different that it more like a different game than a sequel...

I agree dragon's dogma 2 was very disappointing triple aa garbage

It just don't have hard mode in DD2... To be honest, DD1 in normal mode is boring AF

I wish people gave the real review like you did so they could make a significant update to this mediocre version of the game

Are you convinced now that dogma 2 cannot be saved and they are targetting a completely different kind of players than the ones that loved and played the hell out of dogma 1?

here so early its still 360p

@Darumaster

Ай бұрын

The 360p gang of 2012 is back

To be fair the memorable locations you listed for dd1 are most of the locations in the game.

@RevaXartist

Ай бұрын

to be extra fair despite that none of dogma 2's locations stand out as much, despite the map being 4x bigger. i'd rather have fewer but more memorable locations than 4x the locations but nothing stands out.

DD1/DA …. Sweet relief a real game .. *sigh*

Not sure, on subjective feelings and thoughts DD 1 and 2 are on par. Only major issues with 2 is the low difficulty and lack of enemy variety. Those could both be fixed with a hard mode and a BBI like expansion..

Dragons Dogma 2 was that bad? Jesus christ.

At 3:37 i heard "when roses cry as STRIDER'S DIE!!!" ... then you'll have to "RETRY".

retry in normal mode. comparing hardmode to non hardmode with the conclusion that hardmode is harder. why didnt you compare fuck ups in dd1 normal mode to fuck ups in dd2? also i remember from your last videos how you praised the aggresivness of dd1 monsters and then you show clips of an ogre going into a battle of who can stare better while strafing around for 15! seconds straight and the cyclops didnt do that much either. i am not arguing if dd2 is better than dd1 or vice versa, but from an outside pov, i get the strong impression that you have a hard bias and are wearing rose tinted glasses. no offense.

@xxXXRAPXXxx

Ай бұрын

As far as i remember Hard mode affects damage they do to you, their poise and everything stamina wise you do (only thing i really dislike as it eats tons of stamina to do anything) while giving you tons of money (so you can get gear/items and make the mode far easier then normal). It does not affect aggression of the opponents at all. also.... why did dd2 not have a hardmode? its not like they did much in DDDA with hardmode and it was badly thought out there too.

you are playing in hard mode in this video, hard mode was an update of the game, was very hard only for a new game, normal difficulty is similar to dd2

@lovepa2582

Ай бұрын

some of us talk about memorable npcs from dd1, we are playing this game for 12 years, they may not be and we have only elevate them, ist simple, ask someone who just play dd1 as a casual player, not a 12 years fan

@lovepa2582

Ай бұрын

try to play solo dd2 like in this video and told us

C'mon, can't compare DD2 on Normal to DDDA on Hard. Besides, Hard Mode sucks in more ways than you can count.

@mugenrpg690

Ай бұрын

Hard mode on DD2 only would make things worse, turning the already boring enemies with boring move sets into massive damage sponges... No thanks

@raykael

Ай бұрын

you are missing the point here, he is not comparing hard mode on 1 to normal mode on 2, he is comparing the feeling you get playing 2 when you loved 1 so much and kept playing it over and over for years.

@zadymek01

Ай бұрын

@@mugenrpg690 What makes you think the devs would go damage sponges way and not DD way (quadrupled damage received, s/k nerf and extra Stamina cost)?

@zadymek01

Ай бұрын

@@raykael I'm not missing anything. The author directly refers to damage (received) differences in both games. And I'm addressing this part, and this part only.

@Dalboni

Ай бұрын

I think it can not be saved. Maybe if they create BBIisland with very distinct mobs, moves, and such... not seeing this happen, thou.

It was really clever how you ignored many positives about DD2 in your review. Why no mention of mages syncing with sorcerers? Why no mention of Griffins actually having nests in DD2? Saying they had 12 years is disingenuous to the process of making a video game and the business side of it. DD1 wasn’t successful enough to immediately warrant a sequel. I agree DD2 has its flaws but it’s crazy that you only saw the negatives. You always seem to be such a rational guy but your DD2 review was just you being emotional.

@sunbro9744

Ай бұрын

Mage synching is present in the first game.

@marcpolain9663

Ай бұрын

@@sunbro9744 mages can’t sync with sorcerers in DD1, they can in DD2

@sunbro9744

Ай бұрын

@@marcpolain9663 I didn't read it that way, it's a minor QoL, yes. The small QoL throughout the game don't diminish the glaring issues that he pointed out in his videos. I finished the game early so I don't know if they fixed the inventory problem with changing classes or sending gear in the stock. chest yet.

@Lucy2Juicy

Ай бұрын

I mean tbf it's 3 quick skills and possibly Spellhold which you realistically aren't going to be syncing. But just because he didn't list these minor things doesn't mean DD2 is all bad. It is however not a great sequel to the first, nor a particularly high quality 70$ 2024 game. It's a good foundation given the combat at its base form is great but it seems to be more a death by a million cuts outside of that. Luckily it can yet be improved but there's no excuse for the launch state. Keep in mind you can easily point these things out if even say you like this game like I do. You don't have to be a blind purposefully oblivious fanatic over a game.

@aweinspyerd2112

Ай бұрын

you see this in most games, someone who put a ton of effort into making videos for a game never like the next version of it to come out. he could have just said he didn't like DD2. Just like DD:DA they both have their problems neither is a complete game and after playing both I can say DD:DA only feels complete in BBI. DD2 hasn't even reached it's best form yet.