I had extreme pain in my Patellar tendon area of both knees whenever I did something that would stretch the tendon from aged 15 to 18. I played basketball and volleyball. Bad enough pain that I had to take 4 ibuprofen before every sports practice or game just to be able to function. Two visits to a doctor and they never gave me a diagnosis of anything, however. They just told me to "strengthen my legs". However, at the time it hurt way too much and I was scares to lift and put my legs under more of a load. I then went to a chiropractor (yeah yeah, make fun of chiropractors), and in the imaging they took of my knees, they pointed out the apparent damage of that tendon area. Through working with them, it was discovered that my hips were rotated a certain way that kinked the chain of energy up through my knees. My feet had always been at a 90 degree angle of one another my whole life when I walked, stood, or ran, but I never thought anything of it. The rotation of my legs literally caused exactly what you described in the video with the lateral shifting of the tendon when I bent my legs. For about a year I went every two weeks to keep adjusting my hips as they literally straightened out when adjusted, but in a few days got crooked again. Over time, I had to go less and less frequently, and my hips stayed in line. At that point my pain was almost gone, and any lingering pain went away once I got serious in the gym and strengthened my legs after all. So that's my story. Maybe the doc helped, maybe the chiropractor helped. I dont care

@blackout2430

4 жыл бұрын

A lot of chiros are quacks but if you find a good one you’re lucky. Mine fixed my hips and my back pain went away for good. People also sleep funny (and also have bad posture like you explained) and getting your hips adjusted clears up most common problems

@tungvu4339

4 жыл бұрын

" My feet had always been at a 90 degree angle of one another my whole life " , I don't understand this ? can u explain that ?

@franciscorojas9365

4 жыл бұрын

mann search in instagram kneesovertoesguy have a great exercisces for the knee he can help you

@5ivestarrrkp

3 жыл бұрын

I played in a basketball tourney and we played 5 games in like 6 hours and after i couldn't straighten them out and it happens every once in a while but when i straighten it then it feels like something is pulling in my knee

@Raptors19tdot

3 жыл бұрын

Dude hearing your story, I have a feeling that your a point guard who moves side to side alot or you got flat fee? When you crossover attention to your knees, u can see that it's bending outwards. Or if your a dunker do u land on the heels? If yes to these then you have to relearn all those movements again that puts less stress and prevent knees bending. If your a dunker try to land on your toes instead of heels

This is a terrible thing to have, I held with for a whole year and one day you might be feeling perfect to go out and play, but then the next day the knee starts to hurt like crazy

@xxxtentacion198

5 жыл бұрын

Ive had it for over a year and mine just won't heal

@emeryjeffers

5 жыл бұрын

It sucks

@jackiemoon6953

4 жыл бұрын

Facts it sucks

@dmb3349

4 жыл бұрын

Have they healed

@Raven55549

4 жыл бұрын

I play through it

Hey Doc, please can you make a video discussing shin splints/ stress fractures... I'm a long jumper and struggling with shin splints. Thanks

@amadou6968

5 жыл бұрын

And how to recover from them, I'm a basketball player and it's really holding me back

@rAnge4Bl0w

5 жыл бұрын

@@amadou6968 same issue here

@maxmadison2832

5 жыл бұрын

stress fractures in the tubula, i have a stress fracture currently in my shin, and as a catcher in baseball, its painful

@datsatoilet2170

5 жыл бұрын

Same bro, same

@rzende

5 жыл бұрын

Adidas boost and specific landing technics got me away from shin splints forever. (I'm a 6"5 guard)

My retinas love the thumbnail colors

Thank you for finally uploading this one! Been waiting for it.

Great video! I was a catcher in baseball and goalie in hockey. I’ve had issues with this for 10+ years. Started with a 8 month rehab and was back. Fast forward several years the pain got severe again. I ended up getting injections that didn’t help, in fact one knee got worse and ended up requiring surgery. What I’ve noticed is that the post surgery rehab is brutal. Definitely going to show this video to people asking what’s wrong with my knees.

I'm 44, I've had it since 16! Concrete and asphalt bball all day long. Strengthen your legs young people. Squat, press, deadlift and lunges. Those help my knees plus massage and ice.

@kingdommad545

5 жыл бұрын

That's something I will work on.

@jackiemoon6953

4 жыл бұрын

I've had it for about 4 months and good lord its already frustrating

@ashismandal4718

4 жыл бұрын

Are you sure there's no permanent recovery?

@zxvr5802

4 жыл бұрын

Did it ever go away?)

@drewharper1142

3 жыл бұрын

Is it supposed to hurt when I squat

I am a doctor as well and I suffered from jumpers knee for nearly 3 years. I can definitely say it was a horrible experience not because of so much pain but because of restriction in many everyday activities.

@ndman111

4 жыл бұрын

What treatment did you pursue in order to cure your condition Alexander? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

@adeayokanmi1213

3 жыл бұрын

The Subway Alum did you receive feedback or heal your tendonitis

@michealaguilar2024

3 жыл бұрын

You never fully recovered on knee this injury is worse than a acl tear I swear. If you get this chronic your playing days are over

@voloscity3

3 жыл бұрын

I received ultrasound-guided PRP treatment and lots of physio with a very experienced physiotherapist.

@jalenmcintyre1660

Жыл бұрын

Good job on becoming a doctor, how did u study with that injury? Did you only study while sitting? Did u ever have a summerjob? Dont u need to stand all day while working there or when yu was a resident or something else

I have watched a lot of videos about this subject these past few days and you are by far the most well-spoken easy to understand person ever! NOW I understand why anti-inflammatory gel wasn't working on my knee. I don't have a tendinitis but a tendinopathy! I appreciated and loved how you explained the differences between them two. I'm very happy I stumbled upon your video. Many many thanks ❤

One of my friends injured his ankle during a 1v1 vs me. He landed awkwardly and as soon as I saw him fall I immediately remember your video on the sprained ankle injury (I forgot which video it was :/ ) and educated him lol all thanks to you I know way too much about knees and ankles xD

Thanks for the great info! I've been working back from this exact issue with my left knee and now I have a new rehab exercise to do!

I love how simply descriptive these videos are, love this segment Brian!

@BrianSuttererMD

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I needed this video lol, I had this the entire second half of my last basketball season and continued to play on it and it’s now been 2 years and I still will get pain from time to time but not near what it was, and apparently I had it in stage 3 according to this. Now I know what to do when (or if) it comes back. Thank you and great video!

Omg I was wondering about this the other day. Nice. Thanks for the upload.

from the Uk , had patella tendinopathy for around 4 years managing the pain through professional rugby. recently got PRP injections and has alleviated some pain but not all. This video is probably the best I've seen and id never even began to think about Q angle. Thanks !!

Thanks Doc I play ultimate disc an have suffered for this condition for at least a few years now, initially is was just under my knee caps an now the pain has moved lower to where the patellar tendon meet the shin bone. Thus far I’ve only applied the PRICE technique in terms of rehab. Anyway this vid was very informative learning about the q angle an the fact that weak quads could be a contributor was eye opening. I will also be resting rather then pushing thru the pain for now on. Appreciate it!

I swear I was gonna reach out one day and ask you to discuss this Been dealing with it for years 😂😂

@slxzt4459

4 жыл бұрын

Watchu doin here😂😂

@pidgeythesavage2072

4 жыл бұрын

Dom2k yo I really love your vids

@futurehofer1564

4 жыл бұрын

Wazzup Dom2k lol

@pleaseboi3410

3 жыл бұрын

Damn waddup

@catalinharry563

3 жыл бұрын

hi everyone ,if anyone else wants to learn about best thing for patellar tendonitis try Mackorny Treat Bones Blueprint (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now )? It is a good one off product for dealing with chronic knee pain minus the normal expense. Ive heard some interesting things about it and my m8 got cool results with it.

I completely agree with your characterization of this as "Landers knee," thanks to my personal experience of repeatedly landing only on my left leg due to bad hitting technique in volleyball.

I absolutely LOVE the way you explain concepts without being condescending. Thank you for being so thorough also. The images that you show are very good, and helpful for those of us who are visual learners (I would appreciate the images/footage even more if you were able to leave them on the screen longer; it would give me longer to absorb and process. ) Regardless, these are FANTASTIC and very engaging videos. Have a great week!

@BrianSuttererMD

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for kind feedback!!

best explanation i found on KZread by far. thank you!

Perfect example of Lander's knee: D Rose and his gymnastically-stiff plants

@thomasjordan5619

2 жыл бұрын

That's called no-knees

can't believe how good this video is. just 100% helpful and point-on. And pace is very good (and fast)

I love all your videos! They are soo interesting and easy to understand.

Thank you Dr. Brian. This is the best explanation out there.

Thanks for the video doc! I've been looking for a good video about patellar tenonopathy for some of the high school athletes that I treat!!

This is the exact video i've been waiting for. THANK YOU!!!

@BrianSuttererMD

5 жыл бұрын

You bet!! Hope you enjoy it!

@joeloe6448

5 жыл бұрын

Brian Sutterer MD I was having inter coarse with a prostitue and her neck cracked is she ok

Omggg I needed this video since like forever!!!!!!

Thank you for another great Video Doc! Keep up the great werk!

I have jumpers knee. I hurt my knee last August in basketball, and it's now July. It's extremely painful when going down slopes and stairs. I can't even bend down on my knees without excruciating pain. I can't run or jump. You literally feel like an 80 year old man. I recently started focusing on quad exercises to increase quad strength, as well as taking naproxen. I also take a collagen supplements, as well as l glutamine, protein shakes and fish oil. I've noticed a huge improvement. Hopefully I'll be back to dunking soon.

@sevalsonmez96

3 жыл бұрын

Hey how are you doing after 1 year??

@BoxOutCeltics

Жыл бұрын

Hey TheDevinci314. Def appreciate you sharing this. An update would be super helpful. I'm considering going down a similar road, nutrition- and exercise-wise. How are you doin now, three years later? Thanks

@danielsotolongo2574

15 күн бұрын

@@sevalsonmez96how are you doing now??

Hi Doc, thanks for the video, unfortunaly I can really relate to this, I was diagnosed with this (i didnt know it was called "jumpers knee") and I havent played basketball for 6 months and I have been doing physiotheraoy. Interestingly, I havent done the exercise you mentioned, I have just done exercises to overall streghten the VMO, to get the kneecap back to place. I also found that a patellar tendon strap really helps out a lot during sports activity ( I still play from time to time). Again, thanks so much for the information (not only from this video), keeo up the good work! You really helped me out (and possibly many others) young players, that want to make it to professional, but at the level I am currently at I dont have an exclusive sports doctor. So, once again thank you so much! P.s: could you make a video about ligament avulsion ( i had an ankle sprain in which this happened)

Thank you for highlighting the landing part. I'm practicing ballet as a means to reverse sciatica. But now I'm trying to practice it safely and not causing and new problems in the body. My main hobbies are dance(ballet), and martial arts (bjj, kickboxing). It would be great if you dug into those areas. Thank you for the insights.

I was a Catcher for my Baseball team and a Point Guard, I had a 47 inch verticle jump, once I got to college, my left knee could no longer take knelling so I quit baseball and focused on Basketball, I had Pain in my knee my whole Senior year and played through it, I know now that that ended my professional career before it began, oh well I'll be sure to pass this on! Thanks

My man, explained it so much better than the doctors I've seen. I've been trying to figure out exactly how to rehab my knee, since the physical therapy was way off. Now I know I need to lower slowly and perhaps assist myself back up. I have quadriceps tendonopathy, but I can run full speed sprints with no pain. If I try to squat, the top of my kneecap kills! It's a very hard disease to deal with.

Excellent video!!! Thank you so much!!!

Great video!! Now i understand more about this problem and oh boy...I have a lots people with patela problems! Great Job!!

Can you do Osgood-Schlatter disease next?

@funguy1152

4 жыл бұрын

Upinthesky 9 that’s what this is

@upinthesky9331

4 жыл бұрын

Fun Guy No

@funguy1152

4 жыл бұрын

Upinthesky 9 no

@upinthesky9331

4 жыл бұрын

Fun Guy they are not the same thing my guy

@upinthesky9331

4 жыл бұрын

Fun Guy nvm my fault

I had this because of playing basketball barefoot! Always played to aggressive in my backyard during the summer so definitely lace up! It took me a solid year to fully recover!

I had the same issue from my 4th year of college basketball, where I landed wrong after a lazy layup and my left knee started hurting. It never healed throughout the next two years while i continued to play, I'd use knee support, which would prevent the pain while playing but without it i was practically immobile. Cut to almost 1.5 years of not playing basketball through the pandemic, now when i go play basketball, I'm completely healed and i also continue the rehad to strengthen my hip flexures and abductor movements which caused the issue back then. So long break and rest is clearly the one of the ways to let the knee heal, so if you get an opportunity like that be sure to take it and make the most of it.

Thank you man you really helped me. I‘m a football player and have the same problem

Thank you. That was a great explanation and so much better than "NSAIDs, tape and back out you go"

Another thing that exacerbates this pain for me is having weak/tight abductors. I’ve been strengthening my VMO for a while now and doing some sets of hip abductor exercises before my leg workouts basically eliminate the pain from working out. Still get soreness after the fact sometimes though.

Yes, this what the people asked for. Thank you so much.

@BrianSuttererMD

5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Thank you for sharing your hard earned knowledge with us. You're doing a great service to the many of us hardheaded idiots who don't visit a physician unless something is critically wrong. I understand this information is not a substitute for actually visiting a physician. But it does give us a gross idea of what may be occurring and how not to make it worse.

After dealing with patellar tendonopothy for a decade, I completely ruptured my patellar tendon a couple weeks ago at age 24. Worst injury of my life and incredibly disheartening. Watching this video and others like it to help out with a long road to recovery and getting my knee back, thanks doc.

@Dankey_Kong

10 ай бұрын

Damn that sucks man i wish you speedy recovery!

@messierthomas

9 ай бұрын

I ruptured mine back in april and is the worst rehab i have ever had to do

@sircwibslehindenburg7290

2 ай бұрын

I've been dealing with it since 2019 and I'm 24 now as well... Wishing for u and everyone else with this gets better

Love your info! thank you!

Fantastic video. I had a 38” vertical. I’ve learned it’s not the jumping, like u said, but the landing. I do jello for the collagen loss. And kneesovertoes. This vid is awesome thanks. Liked and subscribed.

Honestly needs more subs Hey honesty is the best policy

this man is the goat

Do a vídeo about quad tendinopathy pls! Love from Portugal

My gooood i've had this for years ! I'll try to do what u've suggested

I have this. Stretching and a good knee brace has helped a ton. Specifically ones that provide support over the top of the patella. Also don’t jump off of stuff that too high. It can make it way worse.

Can you do a video like this for the ankles?

I wonder if it’s like catcher’s knee. After fifteen years of baseball specifically at the catcher position my knees are like jelly sometimes lol.

@45crisess

5 жыл бұрын

Packer McJabroni I tip my hat to you, I squat for 5 seconds and my knees are annoyed lol and I never played catcher

@blackmanwhitesuit

5 жыл бұрын

I think that's more like tennis elbow

@giovanni4337

5 жыл бұрын

i caught a whole year every game every inning and i can’t anymore

@holidayarmadillo8653

4 жыл бұрын

Bro I think about that w catchers all the time! You guys are unreal for being able to squat like that for so damn long fam 💯 ⚾️

@wanilimbe

4 жыл бұрын

Im surprised that your knees aren’t literally bulletproof. After catcher of 15 years i hope your legs are like ronnie coleman now

i surely understand that healing process is vary depending on individual and the stage they are in, but in general, how long its going to take to heal the tendon? and thank you for another great informative video.

Do Hudson-Odoi next! He ruptured his Achilles tendon. How does that affect him in future, especially for someone that's a speedster? Love your vids! Not a med student but super informative! :)

Thanks Bryan I got this from hours of running and football and i had no idea about about this I obviously I was a little scared since I’ve seen so many football careers get ruined by knee injuries

I like your videos before i watch them 😂

@TerpyOG

5 жыл бұрын

Same here! :D

@willowandluka5302

5 жыл бұрын

Well I like the videos before he even posts them

@UrFavoriteDelinquent

5 жыл бұрын

Cole Lutz I subscribed to his channel before he even started it, sosuck on that one buddy

@willowandluka5302

5 жыл бұрын

SyCo Xota damn bro... props

Explained very well! Great content!

@BrianSuttererMD

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Something that helped me get rid of or at least being able to keep the "jumpers knee" in control is using IMS (Intra muscular stimuli) needles for my tractors. The physio for my team gives me this on a regular basis like every third week depending on how much weightlifting and jumping I have been doing. Is this something that is commonly used for treating this condition? I'm also working on making the VMO muscle stronger + the glutes in general to ease the load from the patella joint. Thank you for the instructive video!

I’m suffering from this it’s holding me back rn so much couldn’t have asked for a better time to post this

@BrianSuttererMD

5 жыл бұрын

Hang in there! Time is the biggest challenge with it :/

Ty for the great video! I am puzzled what to do - last week I did more HIIT workouts than usual (indoors and a lot of jumping squats). Previous couple weeks I’d done more skipping but before that did normal HIIT (jump squats etc..). Since this week of increased HIIT my knees feel a bit tender.. they don’t hurt but they’re very sensitive and when I crouch down they feel very tight - what do I do? Apart from avoid HIIT for a week and maybe wait a bit longer to do glute/leg day.... praying this is a one time thing and can heal quickly :( never had this before in my life

Thank you thank you thank you Doc

Please do patella chondromalacia! It never goes away ....

10/10 on this video as a whole I liked and subscribed just because of this 1 video.what you said at the end is dead on I’m a high jumper and the leg I jump off of is healthy 0 pain but the leg I always land on has extreme pain just walking up steps. Can you please talk about how to fix landing on that leg so I can do so properly? Please read and respond to my comment I need your help!

Well... Thank you for the new workout! I dance but I deal with “lander’s” knee quite often... 💀😭

Thanks for the video, Brian. I learned a lot. I got PT from doing tree work and being out of shape. I want to get better so I can keep on climbing. While using climbing gaffs, (spurs) sometimes one is in a static position for prolonged periods of time. When it's time to ascend to the next working position, the gaffs sometimes have become stuck too deep into the tree. it takes some effort to pull the spurs out. I'm thinking QT angle. "patience grasshopper", because I wish there was a quick fix.

@marcusporcius9842

Жыл бұрын

Interesting you say that. I hope you are fully recovered by now. I came here to look for something for my daughter who is a runner but I can say that 20 years of tree climbing has left me with very tight quads on the outsides. I only realised it gave me knee trouble when I tried to start running again to slow my daughter's long runs down. I am now on the foam roller every day and stretching too. I think the Q angle is going to quite badly out on spikes and I think the quad may also be tight most of the time when in most work positions in a tree just to stabilise the leg. Touch your quads next time you are in a work position. I think it may be this stabilisation that has more of an effect than recovering your spikes from the tree. I doubt I get a gaff stuck more than once a year these days -just keep them sharp and walk up softly- but my quads are way too tight.

That landing stuff you talking about is what I notice with my JP knees. I get the feeling of if you not bending in too much especially when you are forefoot lander, the tendon is getting damaged more and more

Can we hear your thoughts on CTE/concussions as a doctor who is a sports fan? Very curious on your thoughts on money over athlete safety

Great video, could you do a video about Osgood schlatters my teamsate was recently diagnosed with this and is wondering about it

@cadmus13

5 жыл бұрын

tell him to go to @thekneesovertoesguy on instagram i had osgood schlatters for a year and the exercises he posts fixed me fast. especially the “atg style split squats”

@cadmus13

5 жыл бұрын

DC and to stretch the quads against the wall like he shoes

Could you do a video on a ruptured Achilles. Hudson-Odoi from Chelsea just got this injury

Hey Dr. Sutterer, any thoughts on trigger points as they relate to this and other types of knee pain?

Brian, I was just wondering if Patellar Femoral Pain Syndrome (PFPS) is the same as Jumper’s Knee? Thanks for your info👍🏾

I’m working on dunking but I’m 5’8” so I’m probably more susceptible to these injuries. I’ll have to try not to overwork my knees 💪

@vanderducken6112

5 жыл бұрын

Isometric holds in legs helps strengthen patellar tendon soooo work on isometric holds

@D_bounce

5 жыл бұрын

We got the same prob but only things I can dunk

@dyterrianrainey4289

4 жыл бұрын

Used to feel like my knee was being stabbed got rid of it within a year. 19 5'8

@andrewguerra2532

3 жыл бұрын

@@dyterrianrainey4289 WAIT HOWWWW

@dyterrianrainey4289

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewguerra2532 I did squats and other leg workouts but I still have my days if I dunk too much

Doc can you do Callum Hudson-Odoi and his RUPTURED Achilles .. thanks 🙏

Been suffering from this for 4 years now, injured at 22, now 26, from landing after rebounding a basketball. MRI says tracking issues, along with patella alta and trochlear dysplasia. I have tried everything except Eccentric exercises. I am now going to buy a board to do squats on. I will be back in 1 year with my results.

@timjume5628

9 ай бұрын

results?

Thank you!

Love this video

Thank you doc I play basketball and about everything I do is mostly jumping

I have the step 1 version of jumpers knee but I've had it for just a little over a year

Thanks doc.

Can you do Nathan Eovaldi's surgery and process please🙏

hypo - low hyper - high itis - inflamation emia - presence in blood opathy - generalized disease process yeah i learned a lot in youtube.

Hey Brian! Can you do a video on osgood schlatter's decease and how its different with jumpers knee? :)

@hardworkgetsbuckets8797

4 жыл бұрын

Are they different?

@medi3val735

3 жыл бұрын

I'll never forget the day this happened to me. Jumped, knee popped, and now I have a second knee

@alexmoha2698

3 жыл бұрын

Hye sir! I wanna talk to you. We have the same problem

Hi Brian, first of all: your videos are awsome, they've been very usefull for me as a PT student. Second do you think you could post the links of the articles you cite? In your videos. Greetings from México.

@BrianSuttererMD

5 жыл бұрын

If you just copy and paste the citations you'll be able to find them !

Can you please give more guidance on some more ways ( or exercises ) that can help with the pain?

How long does the average recovery time take

50 seconds into the video and already straight fax’s

Like your videos. Can you please explain what happend to Robert Wickens back during his crash in the Indy Car race? Hes recovery goal is to dance on his wedding this summer.

Can you do a video on turf toe please

Best thing I did when I had this was trapbar deadlifts, single leg split squats, & calf raises. Make sure you stretch after the workout (hamstrings, quads & calves) & lay off of playing for a little while like completely shut it down

Im a soccer player and I've had this issue a little over a year and I really want to get this fixed.. I've done rest for months.and have done PT for months.. MRI even shows nothing but still extreme pain when I try to play soccer and can feel it at times when going up and down stairs or even standing up sometimes.

I was literally watching D rose dunks and this popped up wtf is youtube spying on me

@mac-gustavemulondak1679

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Can you do a Part II elaborating on efficient landing biomechanics versus potential dysfunctional landing patterns? Thanks!!

@BrianSuttererMD

5 жыл бұрын

I'll put it on the list! Didn't think people would be that interested in that part haha

@peterf.229

4 жыл бұрын

@@BrianSuttererMD actually I think that might be interesting. I also wonder about those people who jump , land wrong and get an ACL tear, a few years ago there were a lot of injuries for NFL players in training camp jumping to catch passes, I forget all the players now but a few of them were fairly big names that were lost.

One about quadriceps tendonitis pls doc bro

i got jumper's knee because im a two foot jumper and land super stiff when doing 1 foot jump layups, got to remember to absorb the landing with your muscles and activate and be intune with your leg muscles

Hey Doc, do you think a knee sleeve with a cushion ring over the patella will help or possibly do damage to the knee cap tracking? Any help is greatly appreciated !

I am a skateboarder, basketball player, cyclist and runner, age 30 and I’ve been suffering from some severe pain in my right knee I hope this helps.

You should do a video of exercises for people recovering from patellar tendon surgery. I have not fully recovered and can't jump or move side to side and can't run.

Honestly I’m currently at a loss, I’ve had this issue for a while now. 2 summers ago I went to a doctor for it and they just said to stay off of it, and so I did for the entire summer. Once I got back to playing volleyball in September, the exact same pain or even worse came back . I now have a slant board to practice some eccentric squats, hopefully this helps me.

Could you please do video on BPC-157 injections. I have read lots of profound things about this substance, but I find it difficult to research this topic. would love to here your opinion about it. I was really hoping you would mention it in this video. Thanks