There is a huge difference between "Not enough evidence to find you guilty" & "innocent".

Owamie , as a victim of rape , please don't make conclusions about these type of things. I feel like a lot of people still don't understand the concept of CONSENT !! It takes guts to speak out about this , and we keep protecting men like this . Lets stop making assumptions . You were not there , the court too. STOP NJE

@TawandaNtshakaza

12 күн бұрын

💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

Sometimes we should comment on sexual assault issues with sensitivity. Most people do not understand what rape is and these type of statements discourage people to speak out.

@mejullindlovu4626

18 күн бұрын

I understand hey,ths is a sensitive matter.people don't report rape cases coz we question the victim,,bully them sometimes not believe them etc.its sad perpetrators will never be arrested.i sometimes blame society standards,it's sickening

@rudzanikharivhe6294

18 күн бұрын

Same applies to so many boy child that are in jail without R.....but because they can't afford lawyers they cannot prove their innocent....looking at this case it was very difficult to prove this one. This ppl were dating

@Iamjustkiddings

18 күн бұрын

We need evidence because women lie about rape every time

@lebolenepa8266

18 күн бұрын

@@rudzanikharivhe6294 dating doesn’t mean automatically consent. People get raped in marriages.

@LM-he7eb

14 күн бұрын

@@rudzanikharivhe6294 No, the same doesn't apply

Queen Ninja please remain neutral to such sensitive topics or rather not make a commentary at all. The case was dismissed due to lack of solid evidence to convict Jub Jub, that doesn’t mean he is innocent. I know you’re free to state your opinions but you have to be careful with how state them in such sensitive topics and not portray ignorance. Please❤

@bonganimlandeli5432

18 күн бұрын

So now u want him to be found guilty at all costs..u lost ur mind

@Kayb193

18 күн бұрын

She's being fair aowa you want her to agree to that girls nonsense she is being fair you can't use Gbv as a weapon Nd think you can get away with it what about real victims we need to stop supporting nonsense as woman Nd call it out the Are Victims out here who can't even get help bcos of ppl like Bo Amanda 😢😢😢 no one believes them

@SystemReset365

18 күн бұрын

Owamie is not a 100% wrong, because there are women who lie about men assaulting them. Like that teenager who led to that boys suicide, she’s wrong when she says you can’t be in a relationship with someone who can R you & continue with dat person. This is SA we live in townships where girls have boyfriends that sometimes beat them on the streets, dragging them to their homes in broad daylight. We have friends that admit they date ppl whose every touch they hate just for the benefits they get. She can just show more respect & sensitivity on this matter when delivering on it… But she chooses not to that’s the distasteful part about her deliverance and ppl pay for docket pieces to get lost so cases get thrown out. Totally support people that fight for real victims, totally support people that will fight against women who wrongfully weaponise R when it suits them…

@SipheMakalima-rx2jn

18 күн бұрын

@@bonganimlandeli5432read to understand, not to respond. Read again and come back 😊

@user-hu5kh3iw4n

18 күн бұрын

Wena was kula

You are spot on Owami. Some women are very malicious, and the story of the young man who took his life cos of a false rape accusation makes me sad.

Just because someone is not in jail it doesn't mean they're not guilty, the very same way there is an evidence of Diddy assaulting Cassie but Diddy is not yet arrested.

@LM-he7eb

14 күн бұрын

Exactly. There is a lot that goes onto court cases. Whether one wins the case or not, has nothing to do with whether he committed the crime

@BbeeM

11 күн бұрын

Same as just because someone is accused doesn't mean he did it. We have many men in prison for nothing.

@boitshokomabaza

11 күн бұрын

@@BbeeM ur reply does not even align with my comment. go get a hobby

How is the NPA the horse’s mouth, were they the victim? Now I just ask this question to show you how you come off as ignorant sometimes. I just want to say to anyone who is reading this, the NPA did not dismiss the case, the case can only be dismissed in court. The NPA withdrew because they have the onus of proving beyond reasonable doubt that Jub jub is guilty and they did not have sufficient evidence to do this hence they did not proceed to court. That’s all that statement says, it speaks nothing to Amanda’s guilt or innocence nor does it speak to Jub jub’s guilt or innocence either. This is very very very dangerous reporting Owamie, you’ve made such unfounded accusations and assumptions. I’m sorry to any R victim who is reading this and has been in this position where the matter could not proceed to court simply because they could not prove beyond reasonable doubt that they were assaulted. Love and light ❤

@bronnamp

16 күн бұрын

That is what Im worried about too. Victims will be afraid to come out since lack of evidence suddenly means the guy is innocent. I hope that Jub Jub takes it to court so that it can be dealt with in a court of law and not thw court of public opinion.

@LM-he7eb

14 күн бұрын

Exactly. Even if you had 89% evidence that someone guilty, that is not enough. In court, you need to prove 99.99% that it did happen

But it doesn't mean he is innocent owami... we can't feel so passionate 😪

@sinazompehlo5818

18 күн бұрын

@@TjakileNgaisiue silly me I didn't know what a rape kit was before 2015

@TjakileNgaisiue

18 күн бұрын

@@sinazompehlo5818 oh sorry babe I guess people learn everyday

@Kayb193

18 күн бұрын

We have vile women in this country owami is correct they use Gbv for they own selfish reason and most of the time we fall for it bcos wat is happening in this country unfortunately I'm tired of ppl using R as a weapon 🙅🙅🙅 you are taking away from the real victims

Owami is just making an awareness of false R cases and the implementations of it to the accused. Relax guys she does sympathesise with R victims.

The NPA didn’t say he is innocent they said the case is thrown out of court due to not having prospect evidence n other court matters to sustain the case

@sinazompehlo5818

18 күн бұрын

@NgwetjiyaDinare I don't understand how she made the conclusion that the guy should sue because he was proven innocent, lol I honestly don't know what to do with her. I'm not saying he did it neh, it's just that her reasoning on this matter is sooo flawed. But ke your fave is so defensive.

@chiefer1325

18 күн бұрын

Which means there is no evidence....they can't prosecute if no evidence...it's as good as it being thrown out of the window

@LM-he7eb

13 күн бұрын

@@chiefer1325 Yes. But, not as good as "He didn't do it"

Just becos she(owami) doesnt buy Amandas story doesnt mean she cannot give her opinion,wats rong with pipl.

The court demand the proof or evidence that's the sad reality about the court So sad

@thembilemadunasime4195

18 күн бұрын

But the problem is they were dating as well at that time

@Iamjustkiddings

17 күн бұрын

How is that the sad part?

At this point we should all understand that any R case with no evidence will be thrown out the window. We have been here before, Amanda, LadyZama, Lerato, Dj fre$$ accuser, Eupho... accuser and many more. We cannot keep embarrassing ourselves like this as women by fighting people about R yet we havent done any steps to prepare for such accusations. Also point of correction Owamie your partner can R you regardless of the years you've been with them. One married guy from HotnServed once said he aggressively sl3pt with his wife, she consented and he said the more she pleaded with him to stop the more he went crazy. Everyone said its R and I agree too.

@LM-he7eb

13 күн бұрын

Definitely a tactic to discourage women from laying charges

@kgatisohlabathi3632

Күн бұрын

I’m so disappointed in Owami😢

We're talking about the same girl who implied that Mac G is a R*pist and that individuals who were wronged by Mac G should have come out to expose him. She plainly doesn't realise the gravity of the situation.😢

This topic is very sensitive. People who have never experienced this or don't have anyone close to them who has been thru this, speak so easy. 😢 Until it happens to you or your relative that's when you can view it differently (God forbid) I went to the tertiary in the early 2000s and I was staying at Horizon residence in Auckland Park... things that were happening to the girls that were recruited at Technikon Witwatersrand campus for music videos were horrible and I have never seen any of those ladies opening R cases against those hooligans they lived with depression and dropped out without opening cases against their perpetrators. I wonder how those young ladies turned out in life .. Sexual assault survivors hide their trauma from people or even themselves because they feel like its degrading and embarrassing and mostly they fear being judged & blamed. Trust me some of their perpetrators were/are big respected names and still doing great in the industry 😢 😢😢.. some have been on the news previously and lately for the S assault cases accused by different women besides my former Resident mates and i am always shocked to hear People supporting these perpetrators and condemning the victims 😮 because i know what I know i always feel so sorry for women who lose these cases. I fear the power of money and the power of being Powerful and idolized by society that doesn't want to acknowledge their idols flows. Anyways im not saying JubJub did it.. all im concerned about is the carelessness approach to topics like this. It is hard enough for sexual assault survivors to muster the courage to speak out on their own and it can make it that much harder when in today’s society there is still much victim-blaming going on.

@SipheMakalima-rx2jn

17 күн бұрын

Spot on🥺🥺😢❤❤❤

@lulamasibiya4391

16 күн бұрын

I also a victim of rape and still dealing with trauma but I went to the police immediately trauma did not block me because I wanted those people to be arrested I did not wait for many years to report

@b-tee7369

15 күн бұрын

​I'm so sorry for what happened to you 🫂.. but people react differently to trauma, some can even carry that "secret" to the grave because they are ashamed, scared,self blame,shocked and in denial especially if they loved or were very close to the person who did it to them. If you did go for counselling after what happened to you and you are still talking to your therapist please ask him/her how R victims react to that trauma of being violated , trust me you will be shocked to hear how differently we react to the same situation. Some dn’t even acknowledge their R for decades until it just hit them like a brick wall. @@lulamasibiya4391

@lulamasibiya4391

13 күн бұрын

@@b-tee7369 thanks

I mean when has the NPA actually worked...Senzo's killers are still out. Ey, I hate this topic for you Queen Ninja.

I think the main take away from this video is "for me" and "in my opinion" because we're basically listening to Owamie's opinion so it's entirely pointless trying to correct someone cannot be impartial and is not teachable.

@weziefaith5484

18 күн бұрын

Well said

@tholwanagcisa9045

17 күн бұрын

Thank you for saying this.

Owami I like you but this one is not it! Even the examples you’re giving sound so…lacking understanding and education. I’m really saying this in the most respectful way possible

Owamie, we've been here before. This one is not for you, you haven't done any research since the last time. You will never get it, period.

@sinazompehlo5818

19 күн бұрын

Eish yah neh, people are so disheartening when it comes to this topic.

@RayOfLetsatsi

18 күн бұрын

She's so ignorant hle. This topic requires some level of education which she doesn't have. She refuses to be teachable, people have even suggested that she invites a professional but no she rather be loud & wrong. She should really stick to cheap gossip rather than serious complex matters.

@michellerisimati

18 күн бұрын

@@RayOfLetsatsiWhat a distasteful thing to say.

@thabsilechamane3774

18 күн бұрын

Unless you wear the same shoes as the victim that when you will understand. I was raped and physically abused when I was 15 years by a grown man and in the village where I grew up everyone thought that was normal until three years later when my abuser died and I was free to talk about it, my own sister never believed me and she asked me for money to buy izingubo necansi for the guy’s funeral, I was so hurt and angry and I called her and tell her about everything since she was young when everything happened and she believed everything. There’s nothing harder to do than to prove that you were raped

@aphiwemqomboti

18 күн бұрын

Are u okay cc?

We dont react to trauma the same🤞

Owami I love you and I have been a fan for years but I wish you would have sit this one out, somethings are better left unsaid this fight is not yours.

@dikeledichokwe3088

18 күн бұрын

I totally agree

@zizoncwadi6789

18 күн бұрын

I feel like she should just not talk about such cases, every time she does it's always insensitive and one sided 😢

Im sorry but Amanda is not it for me... she even was soliciting people to accuse MacG as revenge just because she hated that they spoke about her! That was absolutely vile! She is not credible TO ME.

@angelakashics

14 күн бұрын

I agree

@LM-he7eb

14 күн бұрын

Who is credible? Jub Jub?

@MphoRavele-nm6eh

13 күн бұрын

I agree

@NomfundoShabalala-rj3mi

8 күн бұрын

Exactly.. Amanda clearly lied

And ke oksalayo the NPA has dismissed the case so ke it *doesn’t matter what public court thinks* If any of these allegations were ever true, then it should be a lesson learnt by anyone that evidence is key & that the sooner one reports the case, then the better and get the necessary psychological help they would need to survive trial, but ke 4 now Jub jub is a freeman in the eyes of the law.

I’m afraid such ignorance is the reason why women are afraid to speak up. If a woman speaks like this about such a sensitive topic forget a man…….

Vvvrrruuuuuu pa....pa pa pa pa, i had to drive my golf like crazy when i heard that she dropped another video....mukololo waGabha doing the most...she is back like she never left

Some of these subjects are a trigger. Really careful how you navigate through them. Now I understand why *R* is sensored by KZread.

My son is 19 and he is still a virgin he says and reason being he doesn’t want to be accused of r. Every time he dates , girls dump him because he suggests they wait for marriage before they can have sex . He doesn’t drink nor smoke because , he doesn’t want to be controlled by substances and do things that might get him into trouble. It’s not easy 😢

@studylive99

16 күн бұрын

at 19 he should be a virgin vele

@lulamasibiya4391

16 күн бұрын

good boy may God continue protect him

@supermom354

14 күн бұрын

God bless you mommy....You ate raising a great boy. Continue encouraging him to do good.

@MphoRavele-nm6eh

13 күн бұрын

Eish I have 3 sons I dnt wish that to happen to my son's

@sharonshabangu28

4 күн бұрын

You are raising a king 👑 ❤❤❤❤❤❤

We need to make it a law that anyone who falsely accuses a person for a crime, needs to do jail time. especially rape allegations. Bottom line Amanda was embarressed so she took that route.

I’m sorry but Amanda let herself down if you look at this without emotions . 🤷🏾‍♀️

People are having chest pains,Jub jub is a free man,the sooner you accept the better😅

i get what Owami is saying as much as they are real victims of there we must remember that they are also fake victims,not saying that Amanda is lying

Plz remember Owamie is a content creator on trending topics. Stay parcial in your comments and not leave ill mannered shade. Your support is appreciated

@lebolenepa8266

18 күн бұрын

She gives her views on it as well, makes room for people to engage with that.

@gcinaphidlamini-gx9bu

17 күн бұрын

This was a trending topic though

@ntebokoloko5376

11 күн бұрын

We understand, but be neutral on such topics, she is giving us her uniformed opinion which is wrong.

I agree with you Owami, regret sex is not rape

Hey Miss Owami I think another issue that plays a role here is the term colourism. Miss Amanda has Pretty Light skin Privilege (nothing wrong with that) but it plays a role in how people perceive that person. If it were a less favourable lady for example dark skinned and thick many people would have questioned her because she doesn’t fit the beauty standard of society. Second “Toxic Masculinity” I believe also plays a role here. I remember the way some female celebrities went for MacG and tried to get him cancelled because of his comments that were not okay. In this instance it was the perfect opportunity to educate men not cancel MacG and to their “shock” I guess his channel grew even bigger. We need to start having such discussions as women.

@nosiphoradebe6297

18 күн бұрын

less favourable lady for example dark skinned and thick.

Imagine coming back to work on Friday 😂😂😂 but we still need that juice about the netflix gig

It's her opinion, nothing wrong with it. Nani have ur own opinions or go watch fashion or cooking shows if u cant handle someone else's options

I feel like you having a son clouds your judgement so much. I hope it never happens to you because it’s the only way you will understand especially by an “unproblematic man “

The braids babeeeey❤😍🙌

N trust & believe jub jub did do this also sjava did it

I don't think these kind of topics are for you. 😞 Ive been following you for sometime now but it's always one sided and insensitive. You're always so sure that the woman involved is lying.

@Drip3657

14 күн бұрын

Wayaka

I think you should be Switzerland in issues like these! Remember, R-Kelly? his case was dismissed too years ago, where is he now?

May real women, sisters, victims, survivors please stand up one day. We need women that will be loud for real victims & we also need women that will be strong against false accusers (liars that do exist) like that teenage girl who led to that boys suicide. In a dangerous country like SA we need to be real and just show a little more sensitivity because this is an issue that’s very complex. We’ve lived wit serial R’pists, some still being groomed on their phones, we also live around evil liars as well, women like oRosemary Ndlovu. Owamie just lacks sensitivity and realistic consideration on this matter. Many women in SA are in relatonships with abusers that do R them. But she’s also correct when she says we have friends that date men whose every single touch they hate for the soft life. Let’s not kid ourselves we have younger sisters to protect & little brother to protect as well they tell us when they get drunk enough. Let’s remain respectful, considerate & realistic at the same time. These issues are real👼🏾

This video was very informative

Hey Owamie Am so disappointed on your take on this sensitive issue I have been molested by someone in my family and in this instance there is no proof but I live with the TRAUMA everyday You’re being so mean and insensitive

Notification gang ❤❤

Home girl must be ready to pay!!!!!

Udinga iskolo Owamie

@TawandaNtshakaza

12 күн бұрын

Yhuuu andisadane

I love you OWAMIE❤

Ninja checking in🤗🤗🤗

❤❤❤❤❤❤Notification gang right here🎉🎉🎉❤

Common sense , logic is not for all, all i see here is owami being neutral . If you rape go to jail, if you falsely accuse , go to jail. Than says her opion on her platform , amanda story is sketchy for her. Not that it did not happen . Looking at the comments its wild how people are unable to reason . @owami , you forgot tall ass mo.

Signed in

Congratulations on your 38k followers on Instagram Queen Ninja 💃💃❤️guys please keep on following her let's hit 50k 🥺

You need to remain neutral to such sensitive topics ninja. Be very careful dear because when a case is withdrawn, it can mean a lot of things i.e that there may not be enough evidence to support it which happens often however that does not mean the incident did not take place and in Amanda du Ponts's case it is likely that the evidence is not enough since the incident in question probably happened many moons ago.

Queen Ninja ❤️😍👌👑

Comprehension. Comprehension. Comprehension.

Not guilty is not guilty

Also, she once trended for lying about being from the royal family of Eswatini. She's originally from Eswatini. When she was new here in SA (as a new celebrity) she used to lie & say she was Swati royalty to the extent that the Swazi royal family confronted her about it...she had a lot of friends from the royal family but that didn't mean she was King Mswati's child & so she had to be stopped. This story made headlines both here & in Swaziland. Im from Eswatini hence my knowledge about it. She just cannot be trusted that girl.

Wena if people don’t come back with an update you take it personally. You act like you don’t know the law. Lack of evidence does not mean the perpetrator is innocent. You also act like you don’t know what it’s like being with a man and doing things that make no sense like staying in a toxic relationship in the name of love.

Well, dropping a case because you were not able to gather and keep factual evidence as a victim does not mean it was a lie and it was an intentional attempt to damage someone’s reputation. It happens all the time because a substantial amount of time has passed since the occurrence of the alleged GBV.

Zee ninja signing in

Signing in

2min late😂😂😂

Love your right she needs to apologies to them

You're my fav❤owamie ❤they can never make me Hate you

I dont always agree with you but the moment Masechaba said "me too", I didnt believe the whole thing anymore

We don't know if she lied we don't know if he is innocent. The NPA dropped the case, not that he was found innocent. Sometimes you need to choose your words carefully. Alot of women were rapped by their partners and kept quiet about it for years, it doesn't mean they were not assaulted. If Jub Jub feels he was wronged I hope he sues her and lets this whole thing play in court.

@Iamjustkiddings

15 күн бұрын

We know he did not lie because that was just malicious.

Bathong if u know u r a NUNJU, sign out with ur bitterness. 😮😮, or learn to respect or even keep ur comments to urself..... Checking in n miss fear vokol 🎉

If you go and say someone rap*d you and then you say i dont wanna open a case now, more especially if you are patners, your evidence may not even make it to court coz they will question why you didnt open a case then… As for suing he wont win it, maybe he did it , but she just cant prove it

Owami take this down sweetie

Amanda lied, Point Blank Period!!!! And her day is coming

@mejullindlovu4626

18 күн бұрын

If Jub Jub didn't come out to confirm she was sleeping with her on podcast and chill,was she gona come out and tell her side of the story? Leaves a lot to be desired...

@Kayb193

18 күн бұрын

​@@mejullindlovu4626she accused macg of the same thing🤷🤷🤷 like you can call ne heartless but I saw through the bull from day one

@user-hu5kh3iw4n

18 күн бұрын

Attention seeker that one

My ninja please just sit this one down

@Iamjustkiddings

18 күн бұрын

she literally said we shouldn't have room for rape liars, why shouldn't she speak about whores who lie about rape? If we can believe a whore, why should we not believe a hard working man.

Queen washo wathi mulimo akanacala uhlakaniphile mama❤❤❤❤

Noh man eseng 25 years hle Owami

💔💔💔💔💔So disappointed on you Owami

I love you Queen again nalaba abazonda amadoda nginaba fana abantu 3 kumele bafele ejele fo I hala

mina my question is if rape was true umvakashela njani umuntu ejele aku rape instead of ukuthi ujabule I ngi qondi struu

There’s nothing annoying me like Amanda Du Pont, she even mentioned MacG and he lost gigs because of her umsoon wakhe💔

The moment she made that video, whether it was the truth or not......I knew she wss gonna get a divorce. I even said it on here. That her husband was caught off guard. As we were. And according to me moghuy did not know that entire part of her life. She should just have handled it differently. She should have handled this matter privately and have him arrested. Accusers should learn from Cassie. That girl was playing chess, not checkers. And she had the proof to back it up.

Is Amanda still married?

Futseki bonke nikhulumela u Gogo Amanda du pont fazi ukhohlakele bafazi bangaphandle bonke

❤

This is such a stupid take to have and to share. What would she gain by lying? Done engaging with your content.

Yes She must be Sued.. How do u go to jail and take pictures with your rapist❓️

This one is a miss sweety

I wish Owamie had the same energy for the arson scene. Something is off there and would have enjoyed her commentary if she was objective about the situation.

@gabrielthuu

18 күн бұрын

Am so disappointed in her take on this issue as a victim of molestation ……there is no proof my perpetrator continues to leave on and prosper and I leave with the TRAUMA everyday it’s a life time dent 😢

Amanga Du Pond

Plenty of S.A men have been a victim of these Amanda tactics, Sjava, the comedian etc....

If the families that forgave the guy, who are you to want him to go back to jail? You are very obsessed about jub lamaSweet nwana mma. Leave the guy alone