It's great that you actually cut to example clips when you're talking about something instead of just staying on the stream/face cam footage. Most streamers don't and it really makes a difference in the quality of the video. Props to the editor.

@thechugg4372

Жыл бұрын

This, I couldn't see the spawn differences of the fireballs until he put them side by side, amazing editing.

@aksjhdbaksjhdbNotASpam

Жыл бұрын

THIS! It makes ALL the difference.

I definitely think people will find stuff that pretty cleanly deals with counter. It'll just take a unique approach unlike DPs where the counterplay is pretty universal and has decades of history.

@faaltov

Жыл бұрын

It's called a fucking shimmy, we've been doing it for years

@alexmaganda5827

Жыл бұрын

@@faaltov yeh was about to say lol

@strataslayer2512

Жыл бұрын

​@faaltov idk one of the benefits of shimmies is they auto time themselves vs regular reversals. jps reversal is 20 frames active so you can't just shimmy it

@RexusK76

Жыл бұрын

​@@strataslayer2512 how so ? I have been doing it everytime 😂

@alexmaganda5827

Жыл бұрын

@@strataslayer2512 ofc you can ive done it like a bunch against jp like especially when hes in corner you can go for neutral jump attack and jps usually mash their parry asap and you get the jumpin punish

Also, you don't have to worry about off-screen portals because they disappear when off-screen, and he can't use projectiles while lvl 2 is active.

@Diaphone

Жыл бұрын

Good point (I actually didn't know that about the projectiles too)

@nelomalkevain4129

Жыл бұрын

You also cannot use the command grab if you have portals out, which is prolly to avoid scenarios where Departure would allow to tick throw from full screen.

@1000Tomatoes

Жыл бұрын

@@nelomalkevain4129 yeah that was mentioned in the video so I didn't mention it

@javianbrown8627

Жыл бұрын

You can also jump or dash out of his level 2, this works both forward and back if you're not full screen and you have to do it before the first one hits. Characters with moves that move them in a direction I assume can also do the same such as Cammy,Blanka, Honda etc but that I haven't tested myself as I normally just jump out

I think it's gonna be exactly like Axl Low in Strive. People will struggle against the character at first, and then as time goes by, people will find this matchup more easier, and then Capcom will remove JP's Bomber loop.

@youreverydaynergigante1001

Жыл бұрын

💀

@2iq371

Жыл бұрын

or it will be like happy chaos and everyone will still hate him no matter what.

@techedbirb6663

Жыл бұрын

​@@2iq371 well happy is pretty damn busted to be fair

@alexisacarrot1036

11 ай бұрын

as axl main this is the most accurate thing ive seen about axl

@indradracolich

11 ай бұрын

People will complain because they don't play the character. That's just how sf6 works, if you don't play a character, you probably hate them

Insanely good video. The clips shown as examples are literally game changers

JP is the SF6 Villain, make sense him have some strong mechanics to dealt.

@DillonBranford

Жыл бұрын

Me never think that. You profound think.

What's really funny is watching LTG complain that JP is terrible and needs buffs and can't do anything in the corner 😂

I know I've seen some people talk about using EX fireballs as a meaty option since the EX Parry doesn't beat projectiles - as a Deejay main, it's something I've started utilizin' a bit.

@1000Tomatoes

Жыл бұрын

I've seen a chun player make non-ex work and get a pretty big counterhit combo off of it. I imagine the slower the projectile the better, but most with a fireball can probably get some kind of good meaty fireball in some way. Except Luke, his fireballs probably too fast. Surprisingly hashogeki isn't a projectile hitbox or else it would be perfect.

Something JP can do after making you block 5HP in neutral is throw out projectiles to check what you do. If you jump the mid version hits. If you respect it, then he just tries to mix you and see what happens. If you're really standing still, then you can get grabbed. The main thing about it is that you cannot DI him. He will recover in time if you try that. It's something I'm trying to do as JP as auto-piloting into 236P can get you killed by DI.

The problem with the counterplays is that they're risky and baitable and even if you get close to JP you get countered or knocked back full screen and you have to start from the beginning. If a character requires that much work and knowledge to beat he's simply overtuned, I didn't even mention his fireball damage combos do more damage than cammy's which is honestly ridiculous for a zoner.

Thanks for the content. I've been getting smoked by JPs online. I'm going to be using your advice in this video and I'll try to get better at playing against this character.

Yeah, I played Testament in Guilty Gear Strive and when I saw JP in SF6 I Figured it would be kind of the same situation. Both Characters like to set you up and play mind games. They Keep you guessing and are only as strong as they are creative or as punishing as you let them be. I Feel like once people adjust to the New-Fashioned playstyle JP brings to the street fighter world then he will fall mid for most tier lists, but still, that is just a guess. Personally, I am glad he is in the game because he gives the players like me a fresh zoning experience.

Great video. Pro advice against my main Gief's worst match-up is greatly appreciated.

loved the editing, great guide!

Great video going over JP pros and cons, but can't help but be amazed at the editing

Barring patch shakeups I'm pretty sure his ability to zone will get worse and setplay better as people learn the matchup. He honestly feels a lot like Zato in Strive where he has a bunch of small knowledge checks that all have really easy or low risk answers, but you have to actually take the time to lab them or you're guaranteed to get steamrolled, especially with his projectiles. But if you get knocked down into a setup in the corner you're getting schmixed for real.

I started really focussing on not burning out vs JP no matter what, I found that being in burnout vs him felt like game over, but idk if that's true tbf

@thegentlexylophone

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Parry feels super important vs JP and the chip damage in burnout against him is insane.

@eagleye2893

Жыл бұрын

Burnout is an Automatic Win Condition for the JP.

@Manglet762

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, Him, Honda, and Dhalsim are my top 3 characters on the list of characters you REALLY don't want to be burnt out against.

Such an excellent guide Diaphone. As a JP main I learned so much, thank you for the video Sir. With high quality content like this a 100K soon come! In Street Fighters name I pray... Ahhh Kimberly.

does jp feint for sure not have a htibox? I've tried feinting when they are really close to me and they push a button and get hit. Am I just not feinting accidentally?

Something I'm surprised you didn't mention about the counter is that JP isn't guaranteed to be plus. I tested it with Cammy and if you meaty with 5LP you can be +8 meaning you can still enforce strike/throw afterwards and if you get the throw you don't get hit by the spike balls due to you being invincible during throws (at least Cammy doesn't get hit). You can't throw him until he is +0 as he is invincible until then but after you still have enough time to do a throw or a tick throw. Though the reward when hitting JP with a strike after activating the counter is pretty bad as the orbs take a long time to despawn meaning you can't really do a combo without getting hit unless you do a cinematic super. The formula for how plus JP is seems to be -17+remaning active frames+recovery frames. Cammy 5LP has 3 active frames and 7 recovery frames so -17+2+7=-8.

@1000Tomatoes

Жыл бұрын

Active frame will change depending on how meaty the attack hits, but yeah the variable advantage based on the move countered definitely seems like an avenue that more advanced character specific counterplay will go down.

@Ytnomadttv

Жыл бұрын

That’s one of my whole game plans with jp, all I have to do burn you out then chip you’re health off , while they struggle to eat too close where I knock you back or you die at a distance. The only people I have problems with are people who know how to jump through perfectly because Jps anti airs are wack and awkward . YouALWAYS want to jump again tho it’s the option we need you to stay away from to zone perfectly

@Ytnomadttv

Жыл бұрын

And he loses to di like crazy, his combo buttons compared to everyone else he can hardly ever di back and only really bait di with light punch every other input is inconsistent as hell

Great advice bro. I used to get discouraged from losing, and it would lead to me get tilted and upset to what I thought was unfair. Over time I started focus on what I could have done better and improving rather than blaming the game on my losses and that’s when I stated improving.

Thanks for the info. Maybe you can Drive Reversal lv2 super. I guess training vs the types of projectiles could help. Good to know on how to get in. Maybe I should subscribe. 47K's impressive. Nice vid.

who should i main in street fighter 6 if i main nagoriyuki in GGST?

Editing goes crazy in this video Jesus

Not saying Luke is broken, but when I play him it feels like he can just beat every character. There isn't really a match up where it just feels unwinnable or super hard.

@toberone5158

Жыл бұрын

yea I play luke too, despite being a psuedo-shoto he feels even more of an all-rounder then say ryu. I don't think he is OP though, just that he doesn't really have bad matchups.

@billyscenic5610

Жыл бұрын

All of his moves flow into each other.

@eagleye2893

Жыл бұрын

​@@billyscenic5610Luke WAS Top Tier in 5. And His Moveset and Style in World Tour is One of the Best and Easiest if You're Using Modern Controls.

@manat31790

10 ай бұрын

Luke is the new Ryu. Befitting the main character's archetype, he's designed to be balanced and easy to use against any match up. Although because of that, Luke doesn't have many unique traits. Players who want to play with specific fighter type usually end up choosing other characters.

Honestly, im a fan of the whole “JP is OP” mentality. It makes it so everyone joins together trying to figure out how to counter this one character. Plus JP is supposed to be the main bad guy here, he should feel like a boss. When I match up with JP online it is the most exciting and fun matches I have. On a tourney level, I don’t know what to think of him. I’m not good enough to be pro level so I can’t comment (I’m alright at the game, not bad but not great and trying to get better). I do feel like a lot of people are putting him on a higher tier than he actually is just because he’s so different for an SF character. He really encompasses what this SF is about, aggressive offense and really weird lateral thinking, miles different than SF5 (and a million times better and more fun that it).

Anyone got links for JP combos, everything I'm seeing is basic? Preferably corner setups.

@Diaphone

Жыл бұрын

Not sure if there is anything comprehensive. Most advanced tech is on twitter (check out the people I mentioned in the vid). I might put something together but would be a couple weeks, still a lot left to explore

Don't play fighting games or streey fighter, but JP looks cool as fuck, and classy too. If i was good at fighting hames id main him for sure because of his design

I don't think the counter actually counters projectiles right? So maybe some characters can just meaty fireball into mixup?

How about when you block the spike, jump, then get anti aired by a second spike? I lost count of how many times this has happened to me.

0:25 now that is a flex

Love your vids man. Tons of amazing information. I love JP so whether he winds up being super strong or super weak doesn't matter to me. I'll be playing him regardless. I'm also no where near a pro or even really a competitive player so I don't think what I do matters too much. Haha.

Why do you need to react to the low or the overhead if you can just parry ?

I've been really struggling against JPs as a Guile, because as you said they pretty much force me to change my gameplan and I haven't figured out a good strategy aside from trying to rush them down. Spike is fucking me up. Really awesome guide, thanks Diaphone!

@TheCoachTex

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been having success being patient using ex boom when he tries to use the long range overhead and rushing close and repeating when necessary

Could you make a guide showing what moves you can safely punish with DI per character. I wanna know what moves I should watch my opponent for that aren't drive cancelable and are slow enough that they can't just block or quickly combo out of to get off 3 hits in time to break my DI. Like I main JP so in that case you'd want to DI against things like HP HK standing MP but not stand MK or crouch MP which he can cancel into his own DI to beat your DI for example.

Finally, fair critique of JP that isn't just "wahhh this character busted" or people downplaying him.

Hey guys, do you think that in the future of the game, matches will have more perfectly timed parries? Like, will some characters be useless because of that?

@jessierocket8227

Жыл бұрын

It seems that very fast charged attacks can be easily Perfect parried (I've seen a Zangief beating Honda at high level of play because Zangief was perfect parrying most of Honda's headbutt to command grab him. So if all "safe" and fast attacks are actually easy to parry with some training, it may hurt their place in the meta a lot).

How is perfect parrying the spike reliable counterplay? That doesn't seem at all consistent enough with how hard to react to it is, especially given all the other things you have to be ready to react to against this character.

I found your channel with the sf6 release and I've really been enjoying your content. Enjoyable to listen to and well spoken! Glad to be here :)

@mrrogers88

Жыл бұрын

He's soy like everyone else is, and nothing unique about him. He's just got his channel grind down well

@valeryn8261

Жыл бұрын

@@mrrogers88 why is soy mistaken for being a chill person and what's so wrong with it. Dude is making videos online apparently you can't do that if you soy. At least you can compliment him on something

8:34 I wish this applied to Kimberly in beta… 😢

Ken feels like where Luke was in sf5 just good at everything all the tools easy wall splat, jp feels like probably one of the most technical very unexplored

whoever your editor is ate with this video

Holy shit, is THAT why I have so much trouble getting his command grab to come out? I had no idea you couldn’t do it with a portal out

4:40 "Imagine taking all that damage from an anti air". SFV Oro enjoyer with tengu stone and full meter : 🗿

whats that red meter over JP's head?

The video editing is godlike

Why does nobody else use JP's combo from the Intermediate 10 combo trial? IMO its more optimal than half the stuff people try to do at the end of HK>HP, Level 2, HK>HP, QCB+HP. In the example Diaphone used at around 3:20 (and I've seen other players do it too) he ends that string with HK>HP, HP, which doesn't combo. If you end it with HK>HP, QCF+MP instead (if you're confused just look at JP's Intermediate 10 combo trial as thats the combo I'm referencing), then the crack you placed in the air will hit just as you finish the QCF+MP, and you can follow it up MP, light spike, which will end with the opponent the full stage length away from you and puts you in Oki, so you can follow the hard knockdown up with the command grab and 9/10 times it'll land, and if it doesn't that means they jumped so you can just keep the zoning pressure up at that point.

Great video. His Lvl 2 has immense potential

The editing in this video is top notch

I always wonder is there a single fighting game were there no zoner?

Greatly edited video

JP is both a newbie stomper and a very good character. It'll be up to what we see in tournaments whether or not he's as insane as he seems but right now statistically he seems like he is since you're around 2.5x more likely to be in Master rank if you're playing JP compared to the average of the other characters, you're 6x more likely to be in Masters than a Zangeif player. Either way he's in a place that makes him bad for the game as he creates a play pattern that's somehow more grueling to play against than Sim and unfun at low levels. Manon has a similar problem in that she just decimates people that don't know how to play around command grabs but it's not as big of an issue since it's really easy to play around command grabs.

@paulphoenix6512

Жыл бұрын

Manon is the most broken character in the game with stupid high damage

@aledantih6524

Жыл бұрын

You can only be so accessible when it comes to a game like this that's trying to be on both the old timers and new timers side. Eventually newbies are just gonna have to learn how to deal with him if they want to stick around, that's just the reality of fighting games. As for the rank difference, it's only a week in, a zoner like JP is always gonna be at the top a lot for the first few weeks

Funny thing, my opponents kept fucking missing their meaty throws when I started out so I thought the counter was throw invincible but didn't activate the counter

I just enjoy your content so heres a comment for the support

I did 30 matches with same JP, I learned a lot how to play against, but the grab projectile, except jump, nothing else we can do? And for the lvl 2, it's not easy to block all especially when he also rushes in

Absolutely amazing video, youre a life saver man.

for me the most "broken things from JP are: 1) that if you get caught trying to get in he can just push you to full range again by spending drive gauge, so characters that can´t get it so easily or so fast (like say, Ken, Cammy, Kimberly, Juri) are just going to have nightmare time. 2) The animation of his projectiles are almost the same, honestly for me it's impossible to tell which one is the projectile and which one is the command grab so I can't 99% react accordingly, and when I do it just feels like sheer luck... so unless this was part of his designed game plan (which I doubt it greatly) I wish Capcom tweak the projectiles animations so you can tell clearly when your opponents JP is going for the CG and when they are going to the projectile, the other things are a nuisance but isn't like there hasn't been zoners in SF games before.

@dmitrisemenoff6455

Жыл бұрын

The voice line and startup vary greatly

@bernardosanchez3401

Жыл бұрын

@@dmitrisemenoff6455 not clear enough IMO ... specially online.

@sandy90272

Жыл бұрын

​@@bernardosanchez3401 a human's sound reactions are significantly faster than their light reactions, even if u personally find it not clear enough the sound cue is a big strength to the person fighting JP and you'd probably improve a lot against him if you tried to train yourself to it.

@bernardosanchez3401

Жыл бұрын

@@sandy90272 this is the worst "git gud" answer I have read

@Manglet762

8 ай бұрын

He says "NO" when using a projectile attack, and "AWAY" when using the grab. Also the info others in this thread say on varying startup between the 2 attacks is true, but yeah that's a bit hard to pay attention to if JP gets his pressure going. I mainly listen for what he says more than focus on startup time.

Very insightful, as someone who is new to streets I appreciate.

The only thing i feel is too strong is the fact that his counter works against throws, other than that he's just a very good zoner with good tools that you need to pay attention for, nothing op.

Great editing

Can JP make Unblockables from his Level 2?

Great video! I think JP can and should take a nerf to OD Amnesia. The rest of his tools are strong enough to merit it - imo he will still very much be a good character without the high damage reward on blowing up throws/command grabs.

i think he’s gonna be relegated to mid tier in like 6 months once people actually implement counterplay. i have a bit of my own tech i want to drop but i need to record it still

did his tutorial last night and felt like a lot of his specials should be charge moves

I really hope he doesnt get nerfed too hard if they do decide to. This is my first street fighter game and jp is the one character I’ve tried so far that i enjoy lol

As a Jamie main, I am having SO MUCH EMOTIONAL DAMAGE watching other characters climb the ranks. Playing Jamie is an absolute HELL ON EARTH. It’s insane. All characters have their kits readily available to them. Jamie, if you ain’t taking a swig, you’re screwed. Can you imagine the nightmare of fighting Kimberly on pressure? Or Ken? It’s a NIGHTMARE AMONG NIGHTMARES. Then even more so when the next round comes and you have to REDRINK 💀. Jamie isn’t “unplayable”. I wouldn’t go that far, but he’s definitely a struggle to play, especially since even execution wise he’s really hard to nail so a slip up could really screw you an entire round or game. I say all that to say, imagine my absolute terror and rage when I fought JP or Guile for the first time with Jamie…….🥲

@ADukesJustice

Жыл бұрын

I wish he could keep at least one drink between rounds, w/o at least one drink he's terrible. But at max drink he does become crazy so I can see why they balanced it that way

@SpaceO2

Жыл бұрын

I see what you mean. Personally think Jamie is cool, I’d probably main him if he had a cooler outfit.

@blazin_sky

11 ай бұрын

@@ADukesJustice Yeah but Manon keeps her fcking 5 throw buff and kills you in 3 throws.. Makes sense

The point is that people are hardly ever usin the parry machanic in this game, they have stfV in theis heads and when they use it you can se the difference on the gameplay.

JP feels like one of those charatcers that people complain about so much that he gets nerfed to the point where he's just unplayable anymore. The FGC always likes to cry wolf in these situations. And on the change where he does actually get nerfed, I hope they do it in a way where they can retain the charatcer. He's a genuinely cool charatcer, and it would be a shame to lose him so early.

@mrrogers88

Жыл бұрын

I just wrote this comment, but I wrote it better

@mrrogers88

Жыл бұрын

I just wrote this comment, but I wrote it better

@IcePopIsNice

Жыл бұрын

@@mrrogers88 congrats bro! You got validation on the internet!

@Aetohatir

Жыл бұрын

@@mrrogers88 Dariens comment was much better written.

@darienb1127

Жыл бұрын

@@Aetohatir I just assumed it was a bot tbh

Any zoner gets a +1-2 to tier list just by being online.

It should reversal/ freeze you if you attack. With take away his anti airs or take away the full screen command grab. Sh*# is crazy

Hell yeah i love Joaquin Phoenix

I love when pro players are like "easily reactable" and I'm like "bro I need about another 30 frames. You clearly do not understand how bad my reaction times are, here."

I personnally think JP IS super good but only in a skilled persons hands (i.e sonicfox) ive fought a few JP's in my ranked journey im only at silver right now and i do get matched with a few gold people obviously thats not super high rank but even at these ranked matches i find people that play JP are not the greatest at using what he has, so most of the time i can just jump the fireballs and get a full punish, i very rarely get hit with his command grab because it is honestly quite slow and it glows differently compared to his other ghosts and i think its a little slower just from eyeballing it, dont quote me on that though i dont lab frames very much 😅 And overall he does seem very good and even broken in SOME cases but for the majority of players hes just annoying more than a full blown top tier, i do however think the full screen SA 3 is definitly going to be very good when it comes to closing out matches when it matters most. So time will tell mabye he will be a tournament monster and a ranked clown who knows 😂

After dealing with Happy Chaos for so long, JP really doesn’t feel like much of a problem. He’s good, sure, but he has obvious counterplay and can’t shut you down for an entire match. I think he’s in a good spot balancewise for his character archetype.

@Taunt61

Жыл бұрын

93 My friend.

Jean Patrick going hard

The Brian_F intro kills me

“Command grab is easily punishable” yeah for YOU 😂 dude was messing me up the other day

Another tip when his portal is out do not parry because he can teleport and throw you while your in recovery.

so should they change the game name to JP FIGHTER 6 ? cuz like ..... yo !

Please, please, please do a Marisa video!

A street fighter character with tracking moves is not street fighter. Its NRS.

This video was so good I had to subscribe and I main JP.

I believe zoning to be the absolute best overall fighting game archetype/player strategy. As an Unga Bunga Rush-em-Down all night type player myself, i admit my bias. But I see the classic fighting game triangle 🔺️ as more of a lopsided sea saw. Zoning beats Grappling AND Rushdown, both of which are styles you need to get in close. A good zoner will keep you at bay, at full screen most of the match, with you only getting 1 or 2 opportunities to blow him up. Nothing is a frustrating as a competent zoner who knows their gameplan and doesn't care about looking cool. They'll be just as content to sit at full screen and hit you with special after special. Anyway, back to JP. He is the WORST flavor of zoner. Strong normals, full screen combos, full screen command grab, cancelable teleports, and an absolute FYRE reversal that beats just about everything including grabs, command or otherwise. Talk about having ALL the gifts. Counterplay??! If your down on the lower ranks, what is that?! He has some options for folks to beat his zoning, but allot of em are frame perfect parries and such. Noobs can't do that shizz!! I can BARELY do that shizz, and I've been playing since the arcade days! 😂But I swear I don't wanna have another Happy Chaos situation. All the top players making videos about how "JP breaks the game!!" And, "This character is sooooo carried!!!" or, "SF6 is the most unbalanced game ever!" No more of that, please! Already my top watched boys have made videos complaining about him. I REALLY don't want it to turn into a whole thing.

I still think Ken is a problem in this game, can’t put it into words but he just feels good at everything

@user-op2bh7rc9z

Жыл бұрын

It feels like they can do whatever they want

@MrBones105

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think JP is low hanging fruit, but I agree about Ken. He can range, he's got mad combos up close. He's hard to close in on because of DP. Is he bad at...anything? I also feel like close to half of the players I play against online are Ken players, so I'm just sick of playing against ken.

@youMatterItDoesGetBetter

Жыл бұрын

Anytime you try to block something, he just does something else and keeps the combo going. Brutalllll

@strataslayer2512

Жыл бұрын

​@jHaslipCodes this is such a weird take, one of Ken's key weaknesses is he doesn't have easy access to plus frames

@championredd

Жыл бұрын

@@strataslayer2512 not true

You want a solution? Dash in mid range and boom, most of gameplay is nullified

Love the game, sf 6 is Mad FUN! Man i can lay up n play for hours.

super needed this thanks I havent beat a JP yet

Jp is versetile but counterable he aint un beatable but when they gonna give gief a wake up reversal

I got washed 10 games in a row by the character I will definitely be studying these tips lol

My gf's a JP main and frankly while there was a significant learning curve to playing against him, he's really not all that bad once you know how to block his projectiles properly and close the distance. You've gotta learn to not try to jump projectiles unless they're grabs, as his EX spike actually has a taller hitbox and *will* catch you.

luke gets me in there pretty well

@Diaphone you are true fgc prodigy don't tell me otherwise.

Mid silver and hardly see any JP at all. Figured he is just a noob stomper like Honda

@grandsquanchrum

Жыл бұрын

It's because they're all in Diamond+. He's not a popular character to play there's just more of them in the higher ranks than any other character despite that. If you're playing JP you're near 3x more likely to be in the top 1000 compared to the average. You're 6x more likely to be in the top 1000 than a player on Zangief.

After watching this video, I'm beginning to think that the main reason players complain about JP is the fact that his weaknesses require a considerably skillful and experienced player to properly punish. And before one becomes that, JP will be regularly destroying them, unlike some other character, which makes him *FEEL* OP in their eyes. Doesn't really mean that he is.

Also if you EX lilys forward special you can go through projectiles but hey, who plays Lily *starts crying*

Long ranged throw is the craziest move he has imo

As a baby gief just trying to find my way I couldn't solve the two JPs I ran into tonight in my low rank of iron. I'd miss time jumping. over that ranged command grab

I'll wait for now. But if he ends up being the best character in the game, I want him nerfed asap. If it was any other character I'd be less upfront about nerfing them. But he is a dedicated zoner, which imo should never be top 1 as they are abysmal to fight against with low mobility characters.

Visibility on his abilities is pretty crap. Like differntiate his moves by how slightly more purple they are 🤦‍♂️

He's just Ivy from SoulCaliburVI 😂