Now all we need is a Josh reaction to this video

@ivanlovera4567

3 ай бұрын

And than Jesse a reaction to that video 😂😂😂

@raandomuser710

2 ай бұрын

Infinite content glitch found

@ThiloNorris

7 күн бұрын

We have not got it. And I needed much time and thinking why. Josh said in his stream he does not wanna have "beef" or something like that. But I think he realized that he was wrong. Jesse could take the topdeck gamble but that would get him to a similiar bad position. The only thing he could have done different is a bluff on a bystial himself, but he was not in a good position to do that and he needed to make the magnahut read.

1:25 jesse talking over josh talking over phy hahaha. no idea what was said at that moment

So, while the board state is complex, from my understanding it boils down to this: Jesse is dead to magnamut no matter what. And once he reached that conclusion he made the play that wins the game if the card isn't magnamut. Hani activating sulliek just changes the game from "If it's magnamut, jesse is 100% dead" to "If it's magnamut, jesse is 60-80% dead (depending on how many normals are left in Hanis deck)". But since jesse already decided to rule out magnamut as last card (because why think about playing around the card that kills you no matter what) he obviously went for the play that beats everything besides magnamut. Makes perfect sense

So basically, Hani using the sulliek was actually a mistake on his part, which gave Jesse the impression that it couldn't have been a bystial as Jesse was assuming he was playing optimally? Since a bystial beats him no matter what he does. Keeping the dweller on board would have allowed him to attack over the Merrli so the cryme was never going to resolve vs Hani's topdeck

Why are people analyzing this game? Jesse played for 4 turns under dweller and his opponent last card dropped talents as well as droppig 2 Magnamuts, I think Jesse played out of his mind to even have a chance win this game, that isn't even taking into account the mental that it takes to come back after that horror show game 1 was for him.

The real way to see if it was a misplay or not is to see how many draws Hani has that actually win him the game by looking at his graveyard. It's still up to chance, but you can still make am educated guess as to what the top deck will be.

When I saw it shortly after it was played it was def my favorite ygo game of all time and it still is, both of you were awesome. It’s so satisfying its like an anime duel played by actual professionals in a real high stakes match I love it.

This video shows why pro player like Tearlament mirror.

Man the algorithm did this video dirty. THIS is the content we need, what a breakdown of the best finals of all time from two titans

Ronaldo vs Messi vibes

@belikeskylinx782

2 ай бұрын

lmao

Now we need diss tracks.

This video was super interesting. Cool to see 2 titans of the game and their thought processes and how much they differ. Keep up the solid work Jesse 💪

I commented something like this on the original video but basically I said I don’t see this as oooh Jesse misplayed get owned loser, but rather, given the info he had Jesse took a calculated risk on what he thought the optimal plays were and it simply didn’t pay off

@tijemama368

3 ай бұрын

sure but the thing is that his read was obviously wrong, since hani didnt use sulliek on his own turn to target mudora when he had that same card in hand, therefore the unknown could not be a tear card

@redeltai

2 ай бұрын

@@tijemama368As Jesse explained his goal was to get rid of the sulliek cause he would probably lose next turn by keeping it alive. He didn’t play around the hand card as he loses to magna almost in every situation already up to this point.

Somehow the channel links you posted in the description seem to be broken. The only serviceable link is the one for your twitch channel.

This session was great, I enjoyed the educational aspect.

It’s obviously a very complex game state and I don’t think it’s really possible to say it’s either a mistake or correct. I think it’s clear hani made the wrong play as he should basically be winning from this situation regardless with magnamut. I dont think Jesse shouldn’t have crymed the sulliek though because the read should basically be a bluff or another sulliek in hand especially considering he didn’t fire the sulliek on his own turn targeting the mudora. In this case it’s better to simply let the sulliek resolve because if it is a tear and you cryme the reinoheart you get to kill both monsters and guarantee that the dharc will resolve and you get magnamut follow up plus the ability to elf if you want or get the dharc to either search or summon next turn if you don’t. Obviously when it’s not a tear you kind of have to sit on cryme but it at least gives you a decent shot at winning.

So we got a reaction from Jesse, a reaction from Josh, and a reaction from phy what a content glitch

Interesting to hear your thoughts on this.

This rivalry is one of the most legendary ones in the game prove me wrong

BEEF!?? O,o Run it! In a grudge match!!!!!

Bring humble is what makes you a likable person

Dude Jesse you’re not worse than you were before or not as sharp. The game is just advancing and you advance with it.

3 reaction vids is wild lol

All due respect whether or not he had a Tear in hand OR he got to keep the Sulliek, you should have waited to see if the Reino activates. If it does you negate it, if it doesnt, then your opponent now just voluntarily -1 and took out his own Reino which you needed to clear anyway. On top of that you would at that point have a better read on your opponents unknown card, knowing it 100% cant be a Tear now, instead of leaving room for doubt.

iam „new“ at yu gi oh but this seeems to be a discussion between grandmasters

We want Hani reacting Jesse reacting to Josh reacting to Shy

I have to side with Josh here and I would see negating my tear effect on field as doing nothing and not worth negating.

I really wish Jesse just wait for the point to finish before arguing, it is so hard to follow.

Tear format is the most skilful format ever, despite being Tier 0 format. Prove me wrong!

@kindklan8020

2 ай бұрын

draw phase shifter? :(

@donnelleraeburn9207

2 ай бұрын

​@@kindklan8020make dweller set floodgate and still win thru shifter

@shirohiruka

2 ай бұрын

​@@kindklan8020 bagooska pass

@DrDrao

2 ай бұрын

Tier 0 formats tend to be more skillful. Dad, nekroz, and drulers are famously skillful formats as well.

@tristianmeganblagoueakajay9174

25 күн бұрын

I think striker mirror is also very skillful but not like tear

doing a reaction video to a reaction video of a reaction video...... real creative content.....

Easiest way to win is just to rip the opponents cards.

Maybe im not watching the video right but why was it important to stop the sulliek? Even if he had a tear in hand jesse can negate the reino effect in gy with cryme. I didnt watch the original videos jesses reacting to so its harder to follow as well

@grantplunkett8410

2 ай бұрын

So the premise is that Jesse loses to Magna in hand no matter what. Hani using sulliek to begin with (a misplay when he has Magna in hand) makes it so he has to top deck a normal summon that can kill Merrli if Jesse holds onto Cryme. If Hani doesn’t use Sulliek at all, Jesse 100% loses to Magna in hand after Hani’s last monster attacks over Merrli next turn regardless of the top deck. Sooo, knowing that Magna is an auto loss if Hani doesn’t use it at all, AND using it puts him in a topdeck position regardless, Jesse stops the sulliek because it makes any tear name a devastating topdeck that wins Hani the game by allowing him to fuse

This content in amazing!

Yuitubers reacting to a Yugituber reacting to another Yugituber. We’re getting wild out here

This was such a weird one because it’s not just gamestate evaluation - it’s player evaluation. In simpler gamestates, it’s very easy to say “if they had that card in hand, they’d keep it for x / would’ve used it on y earlier this turn”. But when things get complicated (with tear mirrors being the most extreme example), you can’t guarantee your opponent is playing things out the way you think they should. Here, it feels to me like Jesse having the correct reads was ultimately a detriment - those reads were made by evaluating a few of Hani’s plays that, in hindsight, were ever-so-slightly suboptimal - so the information Jesse gained was ultimately warped.

@huangjason4387

3 ай бұрын

in this gamestate, regardless of the read jesses play was most optimal, if hani did have bystial there was no play that could have won regardless

@ct1296

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@huangjason4387I’d have to look over it properly again, but I mapped this out when I saw the original video - the conclusion I think I came to was that if Jesse has the perfect read of bystial in hand and lets sulliek go, he at least has a chance to win with either topdecks or punishing misplays. If you fully believe it’s a bystial (which I don’t think is the logical read, even if it’s correct), you go to battle, clear the board, punch in and keep cryme live by just going to EP with the Merli + Saronir on board. Cryme checks the Bystial - it’s super telegraphed, so there’s a very good chance Hani’s opts to Magna in End Phase whilst Jesse is still under Dweller (he doesn’t know that Jesse doesn’t have a tear name in hand, so he probably doesn’t want to risk waiting until dweller wears off). Jesse is then up on shufflers (which check a significant amount of potential top-decks) and probably has the edge from there. There are other ways this pans out, but none of them decide the game that turn. Again, it’s not a misplay to work under the assumption the card in hand isn’t a Bystial - that goes back to the idea of confirmation bias. But unless I’m missing something, I think the game is still winnable.

@huangjason4387

3 ай бұрын

@@ct1296 the problem is if its a bystial and hani top decks any ns able monster that has higher attack than merli (been a while since tear format but i believe majority of the deck is that), the cryme is basically dead with no value. since hani can just punch over merli, summon bystial - dharc etcetc. and having sulliek on the board would push the later turns largely in hanis favor too

@ct1296

3 ай бұрын

@@huangjason4387it’s obviously not a guaranteed win but it’s still very much possible. Jesse being up on shufflers means Hani probably can’t immediately run away with it next turn, as preemptively shuffling before attacking plays into cryme pitching tear name, whilst post-battle Jesse can chain to shuffle any Dharc targets back

@huangjason4387

3 ай бұрын

@@ct1296 yeah right tho using cryme there is what allows jesse to put shuffler in gy too.

And then you lost to his brother at the 250th 😢

You know what would be easier? Making a video with Josh and discussing it right there and then instead of react Video after react video. I didn’t agree with the initial video with out Jesse being there and I don’t agree with the second video with out Josh. Either way keep up the great content and duels

This is gonna be my 8th time watching this video omfg

This was a great video. Their analysis definitely is more surface-level and tbh it’s kinda to be expected when Josh is in streamer mode talking to chat in real time. I agree that your play is to respect the sulliek being live on field and cryme it there instead of waiting for Reino. The more interesting insight is that Hani “baiting” the Cryme with sulliek was actually a waste of his resources with Mag in hand.

i watched this live, and I think Hani's patience at the end won the game, otherwise you had that won, but a solid bluff by hani. I Still think you are the next IRL yugi moto, Hoban was the first (despite that controversy)

@Eric-ih5mb

3 ай бұрын

Hani would have had to have a stroke to lose this game at this point. Mag just beat him, if he bit on the bait or didn't.

IF JOSH REACTS TO THAT LET THEM PLAY TEAR FORMAT 1 v 1 3 matches the winner is right!!! Show this comment to both of them!!! (Otherwise they will react 10 times back and forth) !!! 😢

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i dont think this was any form of rambling

0:40 >Be German >doesn't know how to pronounce a German last name...

@XLuxtra

3 ай бұрын

Its a Problem of Americans takin German last names and pronouncing them weird. Like Eisenhower. The way americans pronounce it, it would be Eisen hauer. You never know.

@hannessteffenhagen61

3 ай бұрын

I mean, most american versions of german names are pronounced weirdly, he's just trying to respect the pronunciation they'd use.

Josh is 100% wrong imo

Bro hit the gym

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