Josh Pate On Teams Paying The Most NIL Money (Late Kick Cut)

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NIL has become synonymous with College Football recruiting, and with National Signing Day approaching Josh Pate took a question from a viewer on Late Kick Live Ep 340 about which teams are paying the most to recruits via collectives. Could it be that things are not necessarily as they appear on the surface regarding how big these offers are? How many recruitments could come down to accepting more on the front end versus potentially sacrificing long-term value on the back end? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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  • @LateKickwithJoshPate
    @LateKickwithJoshPate Жыл бұрын

    Keep the show free - SUBSCRIBE to the channel and LIKE the video! - JP

  • @shatan120

    @shatan120

    Жыл бұрын

    Something I have never seen get asked or volunteered: What are the boosters getting out of contributing to schools and NIL?

  • @WarNvrChanges
    @WarNvrChanges Жыл бұрын

    I think Texas A&M learned a valuable lesson with that #1 recruiting class they had. Half of them are now in the transfer portal. Finding the young men who have good character and are a good fit for your program is just as important, if not more important than finding the most talented ones.

  • @tyrtar

    @tyrtar

    Жыл бұрын

    Or maybe they learned if you don’t keep promises don’t be surprised when you get egg on your face

  • @WarNvrChanges

    @WarNvrChanges

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tyrtar Could be some of that too. But they definitely got a few problematic players that are toxic to a locker room.

  • @Bero2549

    @Bero2549

    Жыл бұрын

    There’s like 4 transfers from that class

  • @jbm0866

    @jbm0866

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol, they haven't learned a thing, and like Jimbo said, NIL wasn't really involved in assembling that class, they did it the old fashioned way and in the process their mouths wrote checks the big money donors couldn't afford to sustain year after year.

  • @robertstone5747

    @robertstone5747

    Жыл бұрын

    Why would you ever think that aggy would learn from its mistakes? They have a history of cheating and getting caught that goes waaaaay back. They never do anything with subtlety.

  • @jackpackage4278
    @jackpackage4278 Жыл бұрын

    The fact that a recruit straight out of high school can get paid 6 figures play there a year and then transfer to another school is going to force colleges to implement contracts which will really turn college football into a 2nd NFL. Whether that’s a good thing or not it will take a few years to find out.

  • @bigwitt187

    @bigwitt187

    Жыл бұрын

    There should be rules in place already restricting how much they can play and still enter the transfer portal. I get the feeling the NCAA wants a total disaster so they can step in and regulate it as they wish, it's headed in that direction.

  • @jasoncramer6651
    @jasoncramer6651 Жыл бұрын

    I honestly can't say I thought about the fact that a kid could come out of high school and finesse one of these colleges out of a lot of NIL money upfront and then transfer to another school next year. I wonder how much money that's costing Texas A&M this year?

  • @SignalCorps1

    @SignalCorps1

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea, but A&M has not lost any of their key guys yet. They lost some high profile signings that were suspended infinitely and weren’t going to be let back on the team. Most of the other transfers were guys that didn’t see the field much or had been beaten out of the position by another player. I’m surprised that so many of A&M key talents are still there.

  • @zacharbert6604

    @zacharbert6604

    Жыл бұрын

    A$$$M is a dumpster fire, this is a prime example of what goes wrong when you give 18 year old kids gobs of cash. Dope smoking in the locker room etc and Fisher is a national embarrassment. This should be a lesson that all adults should already know. You cannot buy loyalty, especially with immature 18 year old kids.

  • @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zacharbert6604 A&M was bad this year, but a lot of the freshmen class didn’t play much. QB was the biggest issue this year with King and Johnson. Weigman the true freshman finally got some time in, and they looked pretty good the last game against LSU. They landed the 2nd highest ranked RB even after the terrible season a week ago. I think A&M might surprise some haters and casuals next year.

  • @zacharbert6604

    @zacharbert6604

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-tz2zz5ij1s It doesn't matter, address the facts above. Jimbo Fisher has about as much integrity as Lincoln Riley at usc, both of them want to buy loyalty and take the easy way out.

  • @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zacharbert6604 that’s what basically every school is doing right now. People act like SC and A&M are the only ones.

  • @brettlaughmiller9892
    @brettlaughmiller9892 Жыл бұрын

    I completely agree with you on your take about NIL and recruiting

  • @trewright1482
    @trewright1482 Жыл бұрын

    Something that gets lost in this NIL game is that the States that have no income Tax should have an advantage. TN, FL, TX, OK have zero state income taxes. That means something

  • @mitchtillison

    @mitchtillison

    Жыл бұрын

    Oklahoma has state income tax.

  • @billyjamison5265

    @billyjamison5265

    Жыл бұрын

    Oklahoma has no state income tax? Can I get paid back for what I’ve paid in state taxes? Nice to know that money spent wasn’t real. LOL

  • @flyairguy8825

    @flyairguy8825

    Жыл бұрын

    Boomer ,I'm not paying my taxes anymore

  • @markpaul7887

    @markpaul7887

    Жыл бұрын

    Excellent point.

  • @campbellsportsinc
    @campbellsportsinc Жыл бұрын

    Answer his question directly first with a top 10 list 💯🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @zachlux2778

    @zachlux2778

    Жыл бұрын

    He didn’t want to do that because he’s a sec homer and they are all on it. SEC wants to act like they have kids because “it means more” 🥴 they don’t want people to know they have half of the top 10 largest collectives and are buying players just like every other school now. They want this narrative of moral superiority

  • @dillannavin880
    @dillannavin880 Жыл бұрын

    This felt really close to home, Iowa fan here hoping Proctor stays with the hometown school

  • @failed-venturestudio765
    @failed-venturestudio765 Жыл бұрын

    Not hatin but OSU’s pulled more top caliber WRs than any team in the nation….there’s a reason: 💵

  • @jojowhite9296

    @jojowhite9296

    Жыл бұрын

    Brian Hartline is the reason!

  • @jameskirkland1899
    @jameskirkland1899 Жыл бұрын

    Josh correct me if I'm wrong on this but it is my understanding that NIL deals cannot be tied to playing at a school so even if you had a backloaded contract you could still transfer and get paid for that contract while getting another deal with your new school.

  • @bluemarlin8138

    @bluemarlin8138

    Жыл бұрын

    In theory, that’s how it’s supposed to work. But the NCAA has basically said they’re not enforcing their guidelines, so it’s kind of the Wild West right now until the NCAA decides to enforce its rules.

  • @nickpoly48

    @nickpoly48

    Жыл бұрын

    One thing some of the NIL contracts are doing to negate that issue is agreeing on a multi year structured deal but signing 1 year at a time contracts. There is also legal issues for the players to breach their contract if the leave and don’t show up to do their side of the agreed upon contract.

  • @alabamaraider726
    @alabamaraider726 Жыл бұрын

    Any kid who specifically chooses one school over another solely due to NIL money will rarely pan out. Comfort is the #1 enemy to success. Prior to playing a single down for a school, if that kid is already able to purchase a large percentage of the things he’s always wanted, he’s rarely going to work out. The only ones who will work out on those situations are the ones who are wise beyond their years (there’s not many of them).

  • @THEBULLETPROOFGARAGE
    @THEBULLETPROOFGARAGE Жыл бұрын

    Really interesting video! I'm glad student-athletes are getting paid, but I think the system still needs a few more tweaks.

  • @LuisVelazquezLV3

    @LuisVelazquezLV3

    Жыл бұрын

    how so?

  • @gbailey1958

    @gbailey1958

    Жыл бұрын

    A lot more tweaks

  • @nickpoly48
    @nickpoly48 Жыл бұрын

    I think one issue that you may start to see with the NIL along with many other issues is. Once a kid has that contract, they don’t grind on the field in college like they used to when they had to make a name for themselves to get paid in the NFL. I know it won’t be all players, but that’s why I enjoy college more than Pro’s Once they get that bag it seemed like even fewer still tried as hard.

  • @ransonrichardson4106

    @ransonrichardson4106

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree with this.

  • @user-tz2zz5ij1s
    @user-tz2zz5ij1s Жыл бұрын

    I think it came out yesterday, Ohio State said they were outbid for a 5 star by Georgia. Apparently Ohio State offered 500k, Georgia went north of 1.5 million.

  • @jacobwatson1406

    @jacobwatson1406

    Жыл бұрын

    GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!! ❤️🖤🐶

  • @Buckeye777

    @Buckeye777

    Жыл бұрын

    What BS

  • @jdog2302

    @jdog2302

    Жыл бұрын

    Got a source?

  • @bluemarlin8138

    @bluemarlin8138

    Жыл бұрын

    There’s no way a representative of Ohio State (or any other school) is going to come out and say that they were bidding on a player. You’ve been had if you believe that. N

  • @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bluemarlin8138 all I’m saying is that a reporter came out and said it during a sports interview. You can dismiss it or believe it. 247sports and SI ran the story.

  • @warhammerfaction
    @warhammerfaction Жыл бұрын

    If they are really offering you that you need to take it 😂😂😂

  • @obikefix522
    @obikefix522 Жыл бұрын

    Dodging the question with another question. Sounds like a politician….. lol

  • @Ananias03
    @Ananias03 Жыл бұрын

    I love how everyone was saying the NIL would end Alabama's reign. LOL

  • @canefan17

    @canefan17

    Жыл бұрын

    Bama has a huge NIL presence. Pate’s take on this one is retarded at best.

  • @HeyArnoldGotAFootballHead

    @HeyArnoldGotAFootballHead

    5 ай бұрын

    Well they haven’t won a title since NIL

  • @Ananias03

    @Ananias03

    5 ай бұрын

    @@HeyArnoldGotAFootballHead i know thinking must be hard for you. 🤣

  • @angelocerrato8425
    @angelocerrato8425 Жыл бұрын

    It won't happen right away but in the long run nil and transfer portal will be the downfall of college football. I believe if you get an n i l deal you shouldn't get a free ride scholarship you should have to pay for it.

  • @mynamedoesntmatter8652

    @mynamedoesntmatter8652

    Жыл бұрын

    I said this two years ago and got laughed at and worse in comments. Well, it won’t be long now. CFB as I’ve always known it is over and done. I stopped getting excited about games last season. It’s worse this season, and by the ‘23 season start, I doubt my heart rate will ever even hit 85 in the tightest of games. I missed the first half of our rivalry game because I slept through it. I was glad of the sleep.

  • @markmark3872

    @markmark3872

    Жыл бұрын

    Boo hoo. The damage is already done, it’s only a matter of time till we see the effects

  • @rockytoptom
    @rockytoptom Жыл бұрын

    The irony here is that the title alone perfectly exemplifies the problems with college sports

  • @matthewhartup941
    @matthewhartup941 Жыл бұрын

    Tennessee/Heupel has been doing great with NIL. We have a good balance and formula in place. Proof was on display last year, and will be again this year.

  • @wendyuwaje

    @wendyuwaje

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah y’all just paying players

  • @MarkMclaughlin-qm8kq
    @MarkMclaughlin-qm8kq Жыл бұрын

    The transfer portal needs to be fixed and Nil money how do u fix. First I would only allow transfer portal after two years of eligibility for same team and Nil no upfront money until u prove it on the field. Why pay for unknown talent a tier system should be set up end of first year u get this and second year u get more u have to have some system otherwise college coaches are running circles to get recruits.

  • @rogerwilcoshirley2270
    @rogerwilcoshirley22703 ай бұрын

    Most players will not get much if any NIL$. The few that do may . be subject to extortion, as in - star QB, you want pass protection, that will cost you. Star running back, you want wide running lanes, perhaps you might think of tips for the hard working O-line that can make it happen if they are properly motivated.

  • @gardner78
    @gardner78 Жыл бұрын

    I'm curious to see what happens to the five star recruits that commits because of a big money offer but they don't pan out as a player. Like a 5 star QB that ends up being a career backup. Be interesting to see how programs handle that and how it effects the moral of lower earning starters.

  • @chillxxx241

    @chillxxx241

    Жыл бұрын

    This has always been the way. Now just more teams and fans are exposed to it and now because of it these big schools are threatened that their might be less control for them.

  • @evan1788

    @evan1788

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chillxxx241 so lost in “the man” that you are blind to the damage to kids but okay haha.

  • @chillxxx241

    @chillxxx241

    Жыл бұрын

    @@evan1788 damage to kids? Not only do they get a free education, but they now also get paid in college. Where is the damage? Do you want these kids not to be paid?

  • @Patton640
    @Patton640 Жыл бұрын

    I would pool the money for the seniors. In your junior year, you make the decision if you want to get draft money or stay for senior pot. Payable at the end of season or graduation. I won't cut you if you got injured.

  • @Patton640

    @Patton640

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ellaluna5514 every freshman is not a NIL superstar. Getting on a team, esp power 5, is still a big deal. I'd bank on my player dev over time versus my gamble on 5-star potential

  • @jacobheminger5275
    @jacobheminger5275 Жыл бұрын

    Transitional over Transaction programs like you talk about and like Michigan has said they are, are the programs that will have sustained success in this new era of college football

  • @DougieG7130

    @DougieG7130

    Жыл бұрын

    Michigan is in the worst position out of all these schools because if they miss out on recruits they can't get kids through the transfer portal unless they are early graduates or 5th year seniors. Michigan has one shot to get these elite 5 star recruits and with their philosophy they will be out bid. No if Ohio State Notre dame or Penn state Misses out on a 5 star kid they can wait a year or two and snag him in the portal.

  • @jacobheminger5275

    @jacobheminger5275

    Жыл бұрын

    @Nicholas McDougall guess what, stars don't matter as much as people like to think. Michigan still gets the high-level kids who want to improve. they develope guys for the NFL, not just guys that rely on just talent at the next levels

  • @BlackMountainCycles

    @BlackMountainCycles

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol keep your fingers crossed, little guy.

  • @justinbt
    @justinbt Жыл бұрын

    Paying NIL and offering NIL are two different things. And for some reason, the average fan can’t tell the difference. It’s par for the course in modern athletic contracts. You’re rarely getting your full contract.

  • @daGO_BLUE
    @daGO_BLUE Жыл бұрын

    The same teams who have always been the highest bidders in their nil program regardless of nil was legal or not

  • @Kirbysbelt
    @Kirbysbelt Жыл бұрын

    It's not teams paying the money. It's area businesses.

  • @soulden77

    @soulden77

    Жыл бұрын

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Wink wink 😉 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰

  • @leng1212
    @leng1212 Жыл бұрын

    So, did DJ Ung make money off of Dr. Pepper/Fansville? He was their poster boy in 2021 and he tanked. His commercials stopped running.

  • @parnassus804

    @parnassus804

    Жыл бұрын

    Hmmm. Never saw that one. Seen a couple Bryce Young fansville commercials tho

  • @leng1212

    @leng1212

    Жыл бұрын

    @@parnassus804 Exactly! In Sept of 2021 Fansville was all DJ Ung. Then he tanked and they pulled the commercials.

  • @joshberry66

    @joshberry66

    Жыл бұрын

    @@leng1212 I remember the DJ commercials

  • @leng1212

    @leng1212

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joshberry66 I'm only curious if he got paid. According to Josh, if there's a delay in payment, he might not have.

  • @joshberry66

    @joshberry66

    Жыл бұрын

    @@leng1212 I honestly have no clue on that. I would imagine they’d have to pay him cuz he offered a service for them.

  • @davidlewis2668
    @davidlewis2668 Жыл бұрын

    First, I thought that private boosters or commercial firms paid the NIL not the universities in most cases. Secondly, if the boosters are paying, then how can a private individual contractor use state property for commercial gain at the state schools. Third, if the boosters are paying the players, then can the boosters demand input into player status and usage? Who holds the contracts with these players? Lastly and most importantly, when will the NFL start paying for its minor league like MLB and the NBA with its development league?

  • @gbailey1958
    @gbailey1958 Жыл бұрын

    Case in Point Jordan Davis ! Notably said mine will come later…. NFL

  • @2528drevas
    @2528drevas Жыл бұрын

    Nebraska did well with NIL because they were the first to establish NIL Collectives. The rules and future of all of this are still being written. You also WAY oversimplify it.

  • @josephwhite8495
    @josephwhite8495 Жыл бұрын

    USC, Tenn, Miami, Texas, Texas AM, all pay big!

  • @big1dog23
    @big1dog23 Жыл бұрын

    That may have happened with Moore to UO.

  • @DrBeauHightower
    @DrBeauHightower Жыл бұрын

    Naw forget the NFL. Get the bag while you can

  • @springerbrady
    @springerbrady Жыл бұрын

    Almost sounds like he’s talking exclusively about TAMU & Miami. TAMU from last year & Miami this year.

  • @bigwitt187
    @bigwitt187 Жыл бұрын

    We all know Alabama was paying the most before NIL.

  • @christopherballard5237
    @christopherballard5237 Жыл бұрын

    Texas at&m

  • @SignalCorps1

    @SignalCorps1

    Жыл бұрын

    No really. A&M has not lost any of their key guys yet. They lost some high profile signings that were suspended infinitely and weren’t going to be let back on the team. Most of the other transfers were guys that joined before NIL was available, didn’t see the field much, or had been beaten out of the position by another player. I’m surprised that so many of A&M key talents are still there.

  • @tony-the-tigerjohns3294
    @tony-the-tigerjohns3294 Жыл бұрын

    The teams that try to throw money at the problem will end up with Problems. Make a plan and work it.

  • @zj4008
    @zj4008 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Josh I swear CFB lack common sense. They just assume every kid is offered a bag before playing a down. Some are maybe but the schools that actually know what they’re doing aren’t being irresponsible with NIL

  • @zTheBigFishz
    @zTheBigFishz Жыл бұрын

    Saban flat out said they were back loading the NIL money. I'm sure that there will be modest payments to recruits (5 figures) but not doing 6-7 figures for HS seniors.

  • @webechubbin

    @webechubbin

    Жыл бұрын

    spent 7 mill on the class alone this year, UGA spent 9.... the 2 highest paying programs this year...

  • @zTheBigFishz

    @zTheBigFishz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@webechubbin incoming freshman?

  • @haruspex1-50
    @haruspex1-502 ай бұрын

    The thing is some kids don’t really care about making it to NFL. They just want to help their family. Guaranteed money is better than a gamble for some

  • @knoxvillewill7700
    @knoxvillewill7700 Жыл бұрын

    $$TENNESSEE$$

  • @chrisssss4116
    @chrisssss4116 Жыл бұрын

    You could offer me a million dollars to walk on hot coals 10 hours a day and I'd take it, let alone to go sit on the bench somewhere. Can't blame these kids for taking the money that's being thrown at them

  • @canefan17
    @canefan17 Жыл бұрын

    Ohio St is buying property in south Florida to set up an NIL headquarters. Lol @ trying to convince yourself that they aren’t big spenders. They may be disorganized, but OSU is spending big $$$. Bama and UGA are still right there at the top too. Saying anything to the contrary is laughable.

  • @12071992OU
    @12071992OU Жыл бұрын

    Come on Josh! Bama was NIL before it was legal and you know it!

  • @patrisio3

    @patrisio3

    Жыл бұрын

    If they were they weren't the only ones by any stretch. From inside sources, half of the schools in the Power 5 were.

  • @ljhookem14
    @ljhookem14 Жыл бұрын

    I can tell you who pays the most under the table…it’s Texas A&M and they pay up front in non-NIL money.

  • @ReaperScout1985
    @ReaperScout19855 ай бұрын

    In hindsight this seems to be a slap at the boys in orange and white in Knoxville

  • @45heisman
    @45heisman Жыл бұрын

    In the long wrong if they don't come up with uniform rules what will happen is both. You'll end up having to pay kids up front and than also once they are there so they don't leave. Idk when but if OSU losses to idk MSU 3 out of 4 years because they got a couple kids OSU didn't well than everything changes and OSU starts shilling out that money because they are sick of losing.

  • @danielwade1978
    @danielwade19783 ай бұрын

    Crazy how the love of $ has changed our sport. Is it fair to say that we fans have some ownership in all of this? All the complaining & bickering, all the pressure we’ve put on these programs to compete. . . Anyway, hope everyone is doing well. God bless.

  • @kszendi
    @kszendi Жыл бұрын

    Look at T A & Ms ROI

  • @SignalCorps1

    @SignalCorps1

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea, but A&M has not lost any of their key guys yet. They lost some high profile signings that were suspended infinitely and weren’t going to be let back on the team. Most of the other transfers were guys that joined before NIL was available, didn’t see the field much, or had been beaten out of the position by another player. I’m surprised that so many of A&M key talents are still there.

  • @TaylorRChase
    @TaylorRChase Жыл бұрын

    UGA, Alabama, OSU, Clemson, etc have been offering kids six figure bags for a long time before NIL started. They’re just not offering millions like A&M and Miami

  • @speedracer2336

    @speedracer2336

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s the short list, probably ever major school has paid for years before NIL!

  • @JakeChaykin

    @JakeChaykin

    Жыл бұрын

    Go canes 😎

  • @voiceofreason2674
    @voiceofreason2674 Жыл бұрын

    Raising Canes paid Lsu Myles Brennan 1 million and he quit the team. Also word is he might come back and play for Southern Miss

  • @jaer.6540
    @jaer.6540 Жыл бұрын

    This is no different than NFL rookies, at one time, getting HUGE contracts...without playing a down. They finally capped it because it was too risky. I can see that happening at some point here at the CFB level. Its only been a year and a half of NIL and its already out of control

  • @danielwade1978
    @danielwade19783 ай бұрын

    4 for 40 ☘️

  • @dwightlilly4208
    @dwightlilly4208 Жыл бұрын

    You make some good points however, you are implying that the schools are all cheating. NIL decisions are not supposed to involve the school directly. At the University of Washington- Mountlake futures is the organization running the NIL, not the UW athletic department.

  • @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    Жыл бұрын

    If you don’t think the athletic departments aren’t running the collectives and telling them who they want to target and make offers to, I’ve got beach front property in Montana I’d like to sell you.

  • @blackbeardsghost6588
    @blackbeardsghost6588 Жыл бұрын

    Check out how much money Olivia Dunne (gymnast) makes at LSU.

  • @waymor2460
    @waymor2460 Жыл бұрын

    It may be a bit naive but teams don’t pay players and NIL is to compensate players for their college performance, not as a recruitment incentive. We all just assume colleges have a budget to pay players. They don’t.

  • @magnesium986
    @magnesium986 Жыл бұрын

    ACCORN HAS ENTERED THE NIL FOR ONLY OFFENSIVE LINEMAN

  • @johnjohnson1997

    @johnjohnson1997

    Жыл бұрын

    Lolol

  • @MattLovesVinyl
    @MattLovesVinyl Жыл бұрын

    TAMU, Miami, and Tennessee? Pay recruits to come to our programs because we're desperate. Georgia, Bama, and Tosu? Come to our program and you will get paid eventually. That's how it's going.

  • @ReadR00ster1
    @ReadR00ster1 Жыл бұрын

    Let me guess, Oregon.

  • @davidhuff7095
    @davidhuff7095 Жыл бұрын

    Just an opinion but I think it makes more sense to throw the $ at proven players who have entered the transfer portal. What do the rest of you think?

  • @christianrapper

    @christianrapper

    Жыл бұрын

    They are doing that also

  • @anotherelvis
    @anotherelvis11 ай бұрын

    How much NIL money is distributed by the teams, and how many athletes have NIL-deals that are independent of their teams? Does this vary from sport to sport?

  • @kenneth0795
    @kenneth0795 Жыл бұрын

    Every player should get a flat rate. Nothing outrageous, but a good amount of spending money.

  • @HMbeav8404
    @HMbeav8404 Жыл бұрын

    My thing is how does saban go to a hardworking, non limelight seeking, 3 star starting senior and tell him the 5 star freshman he beat out is making 6 figures? Edit: you touched on my point. OrSt is the latter in pates scenario

  • @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    @user-tz2zz5ij1s

    Жыл бұрын

    Saban was right about the dangers of NIL. Everyone just said he was bitter or this and that. The balance of CF is turning in favor of the schools that are willing to write blank checks for players. I went to A&M and I think something needs to be done. Some sort of cap, I don’t know. I have no idea how you fix it but in a couple of years I don’t think the National Championship will be as prestigious as it was. A few more years with the way it’s going now and you will have 10 powerhouses and then the rest of P5. Years down the road after that those 10 will start dwindling down because not every school can sustain that kind of spending in the long run. Few schools have the alumni to sustain blank checks for the long run. A&M does, but I’m not in favor of it. It really goes to show how great Saban’s run has been.

  • @bluemarlin8138

    @bluemarlin8138

    Жыл бұрын

    I strongly suspect Saban is in the camp Josh talked about where he’ll sell the absurd amounts of NIL money that starters at Bama can make once they become household names, as well as the NFL angle. I’m not saying there aren’t any NIL deals, but Saban probably isn’t going to get into a bidding war for a kid who could end up being a flop. He hasn’t ever been one to promise players anything before they have earned it. If that 3-star guy is a starter at Bama, he’s probably got loads of NIL opportunities already and will have a good shot at an NFL paycheck, so I doubt he’s going to care much what some freshman makes even if he were getting 6 figures.

  • @christianrapper

    @christianrapper

    Жыл бұрын

    The NIL isn’t a rookie contract. It’s endorsements. The 3 star player will just be able to sign more endorsements because he is a starter.

  • @pnut3844able
    @pnut3844able Жыл бұрын

    You'll NEVER know how much we pay, since we're private. Trust me, we'll fully use that to our advantage.

  • @big-n-bama48
    @big-n-bama48 Жыл бұрын

    Collage Football has been Ruined, and it's not the money that did it..

  • @LifeUser
    @LifeUser Жыл бұрын

    Bryce was a millionaire before he played a down at Alabama thanks to NiL. He isn't the only one. It's a joke saying they don't get the money to play at the University, but are getting pai to live near that University. They think we are so dumb we can't figure out what that means?

  • @ohmynester
    @ohmynester Жыл бұрын

    The hate on Miami is real!

  • @ezmoney5087
    @ezmoney5087 Жыл бұрын

    I know Bryce Young is the most seen nationally, he has doctor pepper commercials, Heisman House commercials, deals with beat headphones etc, I haven't seen any other college football player getting that much national exposure not local but national ROLL TIDE ROLL

  • @aroncampos5720
    @aroncampos5720 Жыл бұрын

    Didnt ohio st pay Quinn Ewers 1 million his freshman year?

  • @chillxxx241

    @chillxxx241

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep and their have been reports that he got at least twice that for leaving and going to Texas.

  • @Marckusmtrmth

    @Marckusmtrmth

    Жыл бұрын

    it wasn't OSU or Texas paying, He got a deal with some Organic company, Have no clue what he got for coming to Texas. There are collectives that pay out the money to the kids. One at UT is for Linemen, I heard it pays about $50K/yr for any Scholarship lineman on the team. I don't know if it goes up per year but I'm sure there are other Collectives that pitch in. UT specifically has a Collective that is for All sports at UT and not just football, they have some Student Athletes getting nice NIL money that aren't football players.

  • @phillipcotton833
    @phillipcotton833 Жыл бұрын

    When you allow the narrative of "athletes taken advantage of" to change the sport entirely, it's going to be nearly impossible to put the paste back in the tube. Promising 17/18 year Olds huge amounts of money to "commit" to ANYTHING without a true basis for what has to be earned is the equivalent of a house of cards. The collapse is inevitable.

  • @jamesoliver6625
    @jamesoliver6625 Жыл бұрын

    Josh, you better be able to bring receipts on your generic suppositions before you start slinging it. The better question isn't just cash-in-hand but value of NIL plus network. If it's just cash-in-hand, Oregon is essentially untouchable.

  • @LateKickwithJoshPate

    @LateKickwithJoshPate

    Жыл бұрын

    Better be able to what?

  • @justiceperfect8104
    @justiceperfect8104 Жыл бұрын

    No high school kid coming in college should ever get paid a dime anything until they finish the three years at that college that they have chosen and at the end of those three years or four they will get their check not one damn dime needs to be paid to these spoiled kids

  • @lindencamelback2305
    @lindencamelback2305 Жыл бұрын

    This will probably ruin some naive kids (and their parents) over the next several years until everyone wises up. Best to do nothing period and avoid all the wrecks..

  • @treeherder2201
    @treeherder2201 Жыл бұрын

    RIP College Football. Getting a free education that most of us have to struggle and eat Ramen to achieve is plenty "payment" enough. It's no longer "College Football." It's the NFL minor leagues., and I despise the NFL. Guess I'm done with CFB too.

  • @mynamedoesntmatter8652

    @mynamedoesntmatter8652

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been saying goodbye to CFB the last two seasons. I figure by halfway through the ‘23 season I’ll not be missing a stinkin’ thing. Didn’t miss it that much this season, it’s already become a chore to set aside a day for a bunch of kids getting paid for something that once upon a time was a real Saturday sport.

  • @bryonb2967

    @bryonb2967

    Жыл бұрын

    There is always Friday night lights..for bow

  • @rinzler5974
    @rinzler5974 Жыл бұрын

    Oregon is breaking the bank

  • @wingt4thewin625
    @wingt4thewin625 Жыл бұрын

    A&M by far

  • @trohlack5150

    @trohlack5150

    Жыл бұрын

    Riiiiight. A&M does NIL? Sure. So does everyone else. But that narrative is tired. When A&M does well at recruiting it's as if we're paying them and that's bad. A former blueblpod goes after someone and "good for them....they have unlimited money". Oh well. I don't envy coaches now. It's a wild new model we're living in.

  • @wingt4thewin625

    @wingt4thewin625

    Жыл бұрын

    @@trohlack5150 Hey, I don't care is A&M pays their guys a million dollars each. I don't care about paying players. Pay them everything they are worth and then some. Good for players to get their bag.

  • @trohlack5150

    @trohlack5150

    Жыл бұрын

    @WingT4theWin agreed. But ultimately I'll be interested to know what the true figures are some day. More often than not the accusation seems to be that the only way we can keep Texas boys, among others, home and/or lure them to Texas is to pay big $$. The real question should be why have our boys left the state all these years to go to other states like Oklahoma and Ohio. Are those places really a great place to leave home for. So now that it's actually legal to pay players, and TAMU had some success last year and again (to a lesser degree this year) one has to ask...why? Could it be that the playing field is leveled a bit?

  • @wingt4thewin625

    @wingt4thewin625

    Жыл бұрын

    @@trohlack5150 Is the field level? Definitely not. But does it enable some programs to even get on the field. Believe it. Some guys don't care where they play. $500K is life changing for some families. Hell almost anyone in America. Less than 1% of college players go to the NFL. Get paid while you can.

  • @DrJack-xn1rn

    @DrJack-xn1rn

    Жыл бұрын

    Clearly. But, but, Jimbo and company got the 9 5 stars (the most ever) because of how good their season was last year. Realizes their season wasn't good. Oh, well then I got nothing but that they got paid. Yeah. They got paid, clearly. The highest they finished before this past year was number 4. All of a sudden you get the best class ever? Come on. Let's get real here. They need to fix this mess and fast because A&M is just going to continue to buy players. Owen one of the biggest NIL kids in HS just flipped his commitment from Louisville to A&M. I wonder why? Hmmmmmmmm. That's a mystery in my best Chris Farley voice.

  • @maxcorder2211
    @maxcorder2211 Жыл бұрын

    No. It isn’t “all well and good”. College is now the “mini-NFL”. The NFL never had a farm system like baseball. Now it’s out in the open and they don’t have to pay for it.

  • @chrislane5145
    @chrislane5145 Жыл бұрын

    Saban was right again.

  • @tonycampbell2020
    @tonycampbell2020 Жыл бұрын

    Your Georgia Bulldogs, Pate

  • @michaelweaver9528
    @michaelweaver9528 Жыл бұрын

    Those programs you mentioned that don’t pay the incoming kids hardly any money are the ones that have that recent tradition of winning. Up and coming programs need to offer the younger kids to get them to help start building.

  • @kingsgambit7734
    @kingsgambit7734 Жыл бұрын

    Disagree completely Josh. Follow the five stars....if they wind up at East Carolina because they will pay up front and others will not, then I will agree. But most will go to a lucrative contract. This has been proven out since at least the 1970's. I can still remember Hershel and his new Trans-Am and his mom in a home after signing with UGA and it was not about delayed gratification by waiting to see if you pan out. But guessing you are protecting the top teams and just how much is being spent on athletes to move teams or join out of high school.

  • @kingsgambit7734

    @kingsgambit7734

    Жыл бұрын

    The question is how much? How much does it take to be say Top 10? Top 20? Top 40? Etc. The secretive nature of this is what smells big time.

  • @j-macvolunteer5062
    @j-macvolunteer5062 Жыл бұрын

    On3 has a NIL webpage that gives the listings of the most ambitious programs for NIL. The top 10 list is: 1. Tennessee 2. Miami 3. Texas A&M 4. Oregon 5. Florida 6. USC 7. Ohio State 8. Texas Tech 9. Texas 10. Alabama Ironically, the next two are Georgia (11) and Michigan (12). Now, they don't necessarily say how much the NIL collectives are raising for their student athletes, but you wouldn't be wrong to assume or think that the chronological listing of these schools are either paying the most overall currently for this academic school year or will be in the next year.

  • @philcarpenter

    @philcarpenter

    Жыл бұрын

    That's right baby!!! Go VOLS!!!!

  • @Mountaineer865
    @Mountaineer865 Жыл бұрын

    Bama been paying players for YEARS

  • @detailedrecruiting
    @detailedrecruiting Жыл бұрын

    OSU is begging fans to donate to a " foundation" to give players more money, lol.

  • @GMAMEC

    @GMAMEC

    Жыл бұрын

    This wasn’t the intentions behind NIL. People complain, but this started when the schools made money off of these players (video games, clothing, sky boxes, videos, websites etc. with a player’s name and image).

  • @jojowhite9296

    @jojowhite9296

    Жыл бұрын

    No, that was an idea being floated by Zach Smith of "Menace 2 Sports" because the original NIL boosters were only seeking donations of $10k or more.

  • @sharky6128
    @sharky6128 Жыл бұрын

    Click Bait, you never mention any of the schools who pay the most NIL

  • @roccospinelli5642
    @roccospinelli5642 Жыл бұрын

    To pay a kid that you don't know if there going to be good is BAD BUSINESS. There is a correction coming. Buying a team where kids don't want to be there except for cash is a giant risk as texas just showed

  • @Robcadams1974
    @Robcadams1974 Жыл бұрын

    Probably UGA

  • @birdac2002
    @birdac2002 Жыл бұрын

    You're not suppose to pay money up front according to the rules? That's a question so don't go REEEEEEEEEE on me!

  • @skiparkcityut
    @skiparkcityut Жыл бұрын

    I have no idea how the Northwesterns, the Rutgers, the Stanfords , the Washington states of the world how the NIL is going to work out. It has the potential to separate the haves and have nots even more. The northwesterns who found a way to be competitive once every three years , it’s looking harder and harder in this world

  • @SurferRC

    @SurferRC

    6 ай бұрын

    They all have money, they can compete easier now that they can legally buy athletes!

  • @youtubecommentsectiondebates
    @youtubecommentsectiondebates Жыл бұрын

    Very reasonable take on a difficult situation

  • @mickealwise3342
    @mickealwise3342 Жыл бұрын

    The kids have all the leverage. I guarantee those top recruits are taking the bag over a potential bag. If you think bama and Uga aren’t giving these guys NIL deals out of high school you’re delusional.

  • @crazyunclelou
    @crazyunclelou Жыл бұрын

    Ohio State paid Quinn Ewers $1 million and he never played a down there but they don't pay big money to recruits? Lol ok

  • @TheWorldTurntle

    @TheWorldTurntle

    Жыл бұрын

    He literally said it’s not the same for the QB market… let alone a kid with a perfect recruiting ranking.

  • @jacobwatson1406

    @jacobwatson1406

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheWorldTurntleOhio states team costed 13 Million in 2022 probably going to be a lot more with another year of NIL recruiting 💯

  • @thomaslee1982

    @thomaslee1982

    Жыл бұрын

    I think he got in for one very expensive series.

  • @NateBee

    @NateBee

    Жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure it was 1.4 over 4 years… so they probably paid him about 350k.

  • @yourboyj5564

    @yourboyj5564

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey genius, he literally said it not the same for QBs. Listen with your ears and not your mouth

  • @medicman05
    @medicman05 Жыл бұрын

    This is crazy and bad for the game. If you disagree then you tell me how this benefits the player, the team, and the reputation of each University offering a lot of money.

  • @patrickwelch1010
    @patrickwelch1010 Жыл бұрын

    Nonsense. This is no different than building a company by paying bonuses to new employees. Much much quicker results than bringing in raw talent and developing them. Alabama, Oregon are the worst.

  • @kendrickellis8726
    @kendrickellis8726 Жыл бұрын

    🗣️ ROLLTIDE 🐘🐘🐘

  • @7USC7
    @7USC7 Жыл бұрын

    USC HAS THE MOST PLAYERS IN THE PRO FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME. HS KIDS SHOULD KNOW THIS FACT.

  • @jojowhite9296

    @jojowhite9296

    Жыл бұрын

    USC hasn't been relevant since before some of these kids were born.

  • @RT-xj7el
    @RT-xj7el Жыл бұрын

    You have no idea. The UW just lost a QB to Ohio State because they offered him $700K and we only offered him $250K. The big dogs are throwing their money around for sure.

  • @jojowhite9296

    @jojowhite9296

    Жыл бұрын

    Wrong, Lincoln even stated that UW offered more NIL but he wanted the chance to be developed at OSU.

  • @chrisjones4702
    @chrisjones4702 Жыл бұрын

    the schools and coaches shouldn't have any input on the NIL money. its supposed to be money from a company to a player for using their name image or likeness. the schools are acting like an uninvited middleman to control the money and I bet skim some of it.

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