i feel like ive been looking for this video for the last 10 years

@JazzHandzLMT

4 жыл бұрын

20 for me...

@ATCagil

3 жыл бұрын

21 for me

This is 100% true but it’s hard to put into practice when you’re watching someone you love destroy themselves. Ultimately trying to help someone who doesn’t want help will destroy you as well.

@bbb129

6 жыл бұрын

Joe Blue have you watched part #1 or the first one? Very good advice, I'm right there with ya!

@HYPMaeLsTRom

5 жыл бұрын

Pragmatic Entertainment I'm a huge fan of Jordan Peterson and he is the primary reason that I have been working myself out; he is the reason that I've stopped being pathetic and am now pursuing a degree in clinical psychology. Also my long-term girlfriend happens to be diagnosed with BPD, the "quiet" subtype specifically and this video is very helpful to me. I try ny best to help when I can, but when she is pursuing self-destructive behaviours and I'm out of town, there isn't too much that I can do and I will only make it worse for myself and consequently her. So thanks for this video. I think that it has helped me sort out when to help and when I have to give her the chance tohelp herself.

@user-ts4ni9vt5f

5 жыл бұрын

Where were you when the person started to do bad things that you should’ve knew it will destroy your life. That’s a lesson to be aware of people around us. And be careful about their life and how is it going and stop the root of bad things before it grow up and control everything!.

@makutas-v261

4 жыл бұрын

Then what are we supposed to be? letting someone drown? what are we supposed to be then?... isn't that what it means to be good? launch yourself into the darkness.. I understand everyone should preserve themselves, but if we let everyone else die out then what are we supposed to be?

@barbarab2590

4 жыл бұрын

@@makutas-v261 What are we supposed to be? For one, we can't be God. He gave us choice. And I learned that I had a choice to not be with this toxic, suck the life out of you, person. And I had to give him the freedom to make his own choices. You cannot make people see, or be healed, or be saved. Like Jordon is saying here, you cannot help someone who does not want to be helped. So go take care of yourself, in a healthy way, not a self-centered way. Loving someone always is a risk of hurting.

What I love about JP is his emotional intensity, earnestness, and genuine conviction. He is such a breath of fresh air in an era of shallow glibness. And btw he's right on this one. The only way is to walk away. Don't get yourself drowned too.

@3ZEBRA

4 жыл бұрын

It's really really tough when you love the person and that person has a mental illness though. I know this first-hand, my gf has schizophrenia (I discovered recently). So there are like two versions of her. :(

A major thing I had to learn, was to give people the freedom to choose, and then not to blame myself at all for where they chose to go. And I gave myself the freedom to not drown.

This man is the worlds therapist, he put his words in a way that is hard to describe situations and it makes sense of it

As someone who works as a Lifeguard for a living, Peterson is completely right in that we’re trained to push someone away if they’re panicking and put our lives in danger too. Two people drowning is worse than one, physically and psychologically. It’s hard to ignore someone and walk away when you love them, but it’s probably what they need. People learn how to survive and move forward when they have to, they don’t have to whilst you’re trying to do it for them....

If you always do what you've always done you will always get what you've always gotten

@franstammo3905

4 жыл бұрын

Oosterhout’s Finest so basically, do somehing that youve never done, so you can get something that youve never gotten

Wisdom is knowing you own vulnerabilities beneath you declaring your strength.

This is true, tried to help a friend who was suffering. I later found out he was schizophrenic and believed everything he was doing was right and everyone else was wrong.

Jordon Peterson for President! Why is it that smart men like this never run for president? And when I say "smart" I mean enlightened, not just educated.

@illegalbuildingtechnique6807

5 жыл бұрын

The political system filters out the enlightened

@sirkayda7205

4 жыл бұрын

We've got one now. (2019)

@franstammo3905

4 жыл бұрын

Good men like Jordan will get assassinated unfortunately

@TechieDeals

4 жыл бұрын

@@sirkayda7205 Can ya clarify?

@oussama8717

4 жыл бұрын

You need corrupted people for corrupted systems...

Such good and amazing advice by Jordan Peterson. This reminds me of a quote "you can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to drink". That is my takeaway. If you've shown something towards the right way, it's up to the person to accept the right way. If they don't do it, forcing them to will only make you and them worse off. Tough to do especially with those close to you, who actively ruin themselves, and what's worse, thinking that the direction they are going is positive in life when it is actually very negative

@abrahamalvarez7099

4 жыл бұрын

So true

I admit I am wrong. One day I will reconnect with the people I let down

@bensonbrett30

5 жыл бұрын

Why not today?

@mightyman6459

5 жыл бұрын

Red Lion because i don’t want to come across ignorant, i have to work on myself

@bensonbrett30

5 жыл бұрын

@@mightyman6459 sure enough. We all do. Just remember that they may not be there one day. Death comes for us all.

@m3staken983

5 жыл бұрын

@@bensonbrett30 great advice bro.

@moty0303

4 жыл бұрын

@@bensonbrett30 you are a gentleman.

This man is spot on. Absolutely.

What a speaker

45 years ago, a little book called, called Cognitive thinking.pull me out of despair, and I been very grateful.

Ow my God, the nunber if references jordan makes when answering a question tells you this is a learned man!

Thanks for posting this! I was looking for his take on this question for a while.

Thank you for posting this.

I want to save my mother from my "narcissist" father. But this gave me a precious point of view. Thank you.

Your mind must be like an empty cup. If you’re mind is already full, already convinced, and extra water will just spill out. Anyone who refuses help is a full cup

such an inspiration

Yes,listening tells a lot correct

Amazing the way his choice of words paint a resounding positive picture on people who are aiming up ;)

Jordan you tha man, thanks..

Yes, I agree. God helps those that help themselves. Thanks again for your time and effort making these videos. 😉👍❤

I had a girlfriend, and thought that she needed help. But after all, even i forced to wake her up from her bad habit, it didnt change anything because she did not ask help. And it just destroyed myself and our relationship became worse. Then I just left her and going to fix myself immediately

@bigmax5780

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe forcing wasn't the right move, it only subconsciously makes them do it more because it's value increases

@valdothobias5184

4 жыл бұрын

@@bigmax5780 yup. in the end, just leave and take care ourselves first. And finally, she regret what she has done.

@p-dee2288

4 жыл бұрын

Lobo dam wish I knew that! That’s accurate asf man. Definitely a lesson

@p-dee2288

4 жыл бұрын

Valdo Thobias Olivert Butar-butar good luck brother!

This is brilliant, ESSENTIAL advice.

So enlightening but heartbreaking at the same time... Especially if the one you want to help is family/a very precious person for you...

agree- let patients speak, listen, it´s a kind of beginning of the solution

Yes, got to listen.100%

please come back Doctor, we need you more than ever.

WOO!!! This is exactly what I’m dealing with right now - trying to propose help for people who I think need help desperately!

Yes makes sense ...I wish I'd remembered it at certain times...

I needed this advice so much! I have a tendency to help and help and it ends up causing me to struggle bc for ex. My friend has lots of troubles and sadness. Her parents are both dead. I therefore feel blessed even tho I am struggling in my own life so I help her and help her. But it's like this bottomless pit. I finally told her after she decided to get in an argument with me, that she owes me an apology and until she can figure out why and she wants to apologize to me, that I cannot associate with her. It was very hard to do that. She started preaching about forgiveness and dang I wish I had heard this discussion before this happened. I would have remembered the scripture "Don't cast your Pearl's before swine." I feel validated in my decision bc she was causing us both to drowned and I was allowing it bc I thought she wanted to fix her life. It looks like she cannot see that she needs to change or fix anything and so I cannot help her until she sees that.

Unfortunately I had to step back from a dear friend who was so hell bent on helping other people that she was run ragged and suffering more than those she was helping. We played the classic game of 'Why don't you - yes, but', she presenting problems, me offering solutions, her rejecting them. Ad nauseum. When her now ex was really taking the piss I could do this no longer and backed off. As I worked through my own issues I read a lot (still do) and came across Eric Berne's 'Games People Play', and recognized the above game was the crux of our issues. What an eye opener and very easy to understand, highly recommend it. 'Why People Don't Heal and How They Can' by Carolyn Myss is another great read. My friend and I are close again years later and I'm glad of that, although she went through several shades of hell in the time we were apart and is now on the happy pills. It makes me sad, but there was nothing I could do to prevent it. I am more resilient and my life is a world better for facing up to myself as being the root of my own problems and tackling this. Toxic relationships are a thing of the past. It's a painful journey that won't end until your last breath, but one of the most important ones you can embark on.

My life goal is to become elocuent as JP is. There is so much wisdom and truth in his words that is actually painful to hear but necessary. I had a dream about him last night giving me a lecture. I can't get enough of his talks/lectures/teachings. I am going through a painful separation that will likely lead in divorce and he is become the light in my darkness

He is sooooo right .... 🙄

Gold!!!!!

I've been looking for this forever ... cause either there is somthing worse than what I know already wring with me .... the worlds conspiring against me ... or my family are (subconsciously hopefully) dragging me down and crushing me.

Well, this is what happens in so many cases where some people think (feel) that love is enough to help and change the unfortunate new found love interest (“he/she suffered so much in life, he/she only needs patience, etc.”) and then, down the road into the relationship, they find out that not only they didn’t help or changed their partner, they became miserable themselves and worse, their partner becomes more of a monster than they imagined in the beginning. And sometimes they feel responsible because they promised to help and what not sometimes their partners call them out on this (“you knew what my problems were and you promised to help me…”etc.). Because love is not replacement for therapy, you can not help those who don’t want to be helped (for real, not the fake help of “just withstand my tantrums and what not”) and sometimes LOVE IS NOT ENOUGH period. Of course I’m speaking of the worst cases, some people can really get well with some love and support if their issues are not that deeply ingrained (and sometimes therapy helps in addition).

My friend is in a relationship with a man that pervs on young girls, accuses her of cheating on him, he goes to nude beaches without her, he says sexually explicit things to women (including me), he rages and causes arguments every time she sees him. She on the other hand doesn't like him, can't stand kissing him . She has been seeing him for about 2 years now. She rings me crying and devastated by what he has done or said but won't take advice given her. Yesterday she was in a dangerous situation while vacationing with him. She called me sobbing so much I couldn't understand her but I heard him yelling "tell me what you did with bleep" repeatedly. Then I heard her scream "dont touch me dont touch me" then the call ended. I rang the police in the town she was at, gave description of her and him and van and phone numbers. She called back saying she was at the police station and he had left. I made arrangements to borrow a car and drive 3 hours to pick her up and return to my place where she could get a plane home the next day. Then she decided to continue travelling 1800 klms home with him. I told her she was welcome at my place but he wasn't. I also said if she needs further help to call me. I messaged her last night and called her today but no response. I dont know if she is ok or dead.

@carriesilvinaespinozavilla5177

5 жыл бұрын

You can not help the person who does not want to change their life. Say it over and over to yourself. She has put herself in a situation that is unacceptable and even when you bend over backwards she went with him. Maybe you are like me? When I was a young very naive girl my mother married a very abusive man. I just turned 13 when they married. My half sister ran away at least a dozen times. Before my 15th birthday I knew I had to get out. He was making sexual comments about me and my girlfriends. I didnt know what to do or say or who to talk to. My grandparents wanted me to live with them in Arizona, my sister fled to her father's house so someone must have noticed something was wrong. My mothers husband heard about me leaving to go to my grandparents, from my grandparents and he grabbed me by the throat lifting me clean off the floor and banged me against a stone fireplace wall. As he pressed me by my throat choking me up against the stone with my feet dangling I scratched at his wrists and he hissed into my face, " You are making ME LOOK LIKE A BAD FATHER, YOU ARENT GOING ANYWHERE". I was horrified and shaking uncontrollably as he dropped me on the floor and walked away. The next day a neighbor said to me that he knew I was being abused and if I wanted to live with him and his brother in law and nefews family ( I went to school with the nefew) he would be supportive of me finishing High school. His name was John Algarme. He was over 25 and living down the street. He told me how I didnt deserve to be treated that way and that it was abuse. I was very quiet because I was brought up to NEVER talk bad about adults. I didnt even know how he knew except by the bruises around my neck. A month later my mother and stepfather moved up to the stepfathers family's home town Yuba City/ Marysville. John came up to where I was and found me in the small town. I didnt know anything about the lay of the land but he found the farm and tapped on my window. He called me out and said he was there to "rescue" me. He said it's now or never. I left with him with a pillow case of clothes. He didnt have a car! We rode the bus all the way back to L.A. and instead of staying at his nefews house, who I knew and attended school with, he took me to assorted friends houses. I was a virgin. He forced himself on me while we were sleeping on the floor of some kids room. I had no money. Didnt know where I was and there were no cell phones. Not a soul asked me who I was or where I was from or how old was I. John told me if I left he would kill me. A month later I had found some change at a dojo where we were sleeping on the mat at night. During some karate classes John was occupied and I snuck out and used a pay phone to call my mother. I was terrified and in shock, when my mother answered the phone I begged her to save me. She said "Just a minute" and getting off the phone for a few moments , she came back on and said, " Your "father" said that you made your own bed so sleep in it." I was horrified and just turned 15. I dreamed every day of someone who would rescue me. Soon I was pregnant and very depressed. I barely made it day to day. I was his slave. There was no relationship. John was Chuck Norris's first black belt. I got a awful job running an old hotel on Torrence Blvd. The owner gave me a dump to live in. My job was to collect money and clean rooms. John of course moved in with me. He wasnt going to let me go. I was pregnant when my son became 2 months old. John wouldn't allow birth control. I was just 17 with two babies, no car and Chuck Norris kept coming by and offering to John to be in his first movie "Breaker Breaker ". I hid my face and covered my arms because of the every-orher-day beatings had left bruises. John kept blowing off Chuck Norris. One day Chuck Norris came by when Jihm wasnt there and he said if I ever need anything to call him. Two weeks later I frantically called Chuck Norris after John left and his housekeeper answered saying that Mr. Norris was in Europe. I was frantic. John had said if I ever left he would kill me. I had called social Services many times making calls about a "woman and children" being abused and social services NEVER came , always saying they were too busy. John had said if I ever call the police he would make sure we all died. The newspaper published a story about the very first womens shelter for abused women to open in L.A. That's where I finally escaped to. The HS school counselors were useless. The Social Workers were useless. The owner of the old hotel only wanted to sleep with me himself and was useless. My pathetic mother was and still is useless. I later found out my grandparents had been trying to find me but my horrid mother and her horrid husband wouldn't tell them where I was though I lived in the old hotel only blocks away. Would I have accepted a rescue? HELL YES. I have since tried to "help" many people. Yep , if they dont want to see the idiocy of their situation they will just drag you down with them. I KNOW having been in both places.

@dap4699

4 жыл бұрын

Fuck... You know anything about her currently?

I've been struggling with this for most of my life. Regardless of what you choose to do, one thing is clear to me -- you never give up on the person/people you love. This takes almost an immeasurable amount of strength at times, but I know that if I ever decided to 'give up' on that person, however I try to mask it, it would be probably be my biggest regret in life. There is always an answer that can formulated through creativity, and if you're like me, I try to rely on God on as well. I do agree however that leading by example is one of the best things you can do.

@LC-pr5or

4 жыл бұрын

I feel like I'm reading a comment made by myself. I rely on God too. It's so hard to know the solution to the problem but the one I'm talking about just doesn't want to fix it because he first has to acknowledge he is wrong. He makes up excuses why he isn't wrong, he blames the world instead of himself. I don't want to give up on him, but I feel like I can't continue like this sometimes.

I have had this video used against me. I just found out I have a heart condition. I can do certain jobs but not physical work. All I needed was a bridge loan because of Covid. My business already does not require physical labor. I was told to sell my home, close up shop and get a job. I am 63 years old with a heart condition. Yeah, this is going to work out great.

Logic on High!

Splendid reference to T. S. Elliot

The best way to help them is to tell them good luck with their problem and you don't ever want to see them again unless they want to change

Hey guys, can someone clarify this for me please: he likened psychological rescue to saving a drowning person and then went on to say a drowning person can be rescued even if they don’t want to be. Does that mean we can also rescue someone psychologically even if they don’t want to change? I always thought the drowning analogy was about not letting someone else pull you down with them but I never saw this video in full before so I didn’t hear that other bit. Would appreciate any clarity on this!

It's impossible to hate this man if you actually listen to what he says.

trueyou can"t help a person that doen"t want to be helped

Just be cause i see something from an opposite perspecive doesn't mean i'm wrong >__>

@abishaicampbell2187

6 жыл бұрын

However people should be careful of dismissing objective truth. Especially if their pride is in the way. Admitting fault, although hard, is more important than we sometimes think it is.

Lol zero dislikes

@randomnumbers84269

6 жыл бұрын

seems like people agree ha ha

I talk out loud to myself all the time. I ask myself questions too. Then I answer them. Because it was a dumb question.

If you don't need many relationships, than it's easier.

Do i detect an accent in his speech,scottish? A smart man!

I don’t want to loose love of my life my 1st and true love 😍he says I have problems and I’m crazy but I don’t see it 🤔but I will only change for him but it’s hard as hell😓 Weird he said he’s been trying to save me all this time like huh, I didn’t know that or seen that but ya we been on n off 4yrs finally things getting better but I snapped 2weeks ago n went back to my old self n I feel bad now n gotta start all over again 😓I only want to change for him cuz I wouldn’t for anybody else and I want to better cuz I’m sick of roller coaster fights too. He said I’m toxic to my face 1 day like what no I’m not but that’s sad he thinks of me like that all this time 😔

@Thegooob95

4 жыл бұрын

You should change for yourself. There’s a saying that the relationship you have with god is more important than the one you have with family or lovers. That is, your relationship to the ideal is something you will only understand. People come in our lives for a multitude of lessons. He might not be the one. In fact, no one should complete you, no one should make you “right”. They can’t, and you can’t. You have to make yourself right. They should just be the puzzle piece that fits the best. I’ve been where you are, it almost killed me. Strive towards the good, aim high genuinely. If he recognizes that then great. People are not perfect, and they may pull you down in various ways because your light shows their darkness. You’re here, so you understand. Live the path you know to be true, never sacrifice that path for anyone, god has a person for you. Love will find you as a result of you finding live within yourself. Your cup overfloweth. My cup overfloweth, love is the overflow of both cups meeting together as one stream. Sending love your way.

Where is the full video

Gotta love 0 dislikes, don't remember ever seeing that.

@ronstefanelli

4 жыл бұрын

Evan Carmichael ; he has his dislike button disabled.

When people are not self-aware, when they have no emotional intelligence, there is no way to help them. Unless we start teaching E.I. in schools our society is screwed.

"you can't rescue someone who doesn't want to be rescued" is scary af

Where is the video

Your channel has an interesting name.

3:58

I wish this would of been around 10 years ago. I let my drug addicted family drain the life out of me. I struggle socially, I feel like it's bc I don't drink or do drugs. Sometimes I feel like joining the party people, but I remember what it's done to my and their lives, and it passes. I quit drinking and doing drugs close to 30 years ago. It would be nuts to go backwards.

The real question is how do you save yourself when you are the difficult person

@dap4699

4 жыл бұрын

Bingo.

@jennifermarie802

3 жыл бұрын

Then you ask for and accept help from someone qualified to rescue you.

actually lifeguards use tubes now to sperate them from the drowners but still good metaphor hahah

@Abettorman

5 жыл бұрын

Only if they have tubes available...

life is suffering. everyone dies. some folks sooner than others. i gave up everything more ambitious than that. does that make me a difficult person?

❤️

borderline personality disorder

Reminds me of a story of a chineese man who saw a average adult woman drowning in a river. He dove in and saved her, but he himself drowned. Instead of being grateful or saying Thank you, the woman just walked off without saying a word. And if you were to ask me, would the world be better with that man in it or the woman, I would say the man, because he was willing to do the right thing, but doing the right thing isn't always right. Sometimes you have to watch people drown from their own mistakes and mark it as a sad story and a warning in your life.

@usa4287

4 жыл бұрын

Sometimes ones debt of gratitude is too great for words, leaving only feelings and expressions of embarrassment.

@josephineananda

4 жыл бұрын

Confusing.

So I guess don't help the person considering going off the bridge until they get down themselves? Will assume I'm not interpreting that right.

I was pulled into a strange situation a random girl online said some horrible things about herself and that she was about to end it all (she was only 9!?) I tried helping in anyway I can I said some nice things they replied if I meant it and I said yes and the we played some multiplayer games apparently her parents have done somethings (some sort of abuse?) and that they're divorced she has a lot of animals we went from talking on roblox to discord and now she wants me to make a facebook account (it wasn't even her account it was her fathers) she was talking strange...she went from talking like a kid into an adult and switching back and forth constantly (on discord we did show our faces they were in fact a child and if you ask what age I am I'm only a few years away from being 18 I just wanted to roleplay as a character and do my daily tasks for gems) so now I'm trying to be light with her and if she wants help I can say that a there are professionals but if she doesn't start the conversation then I'll just slowly fade away and cut all connections I attract people who want to vent this also happens to my mother (I guess I'm too polite...) what should I do?

@XD-lg7hk

3 жыл бұрын

Just stop.

This is the same as part 1... how do you help a person who's struggling? Walk away and don't let them drown you... how helpful.

@blu8785

4 жыл бұрын

He’s saying to be open to helping others, but approach them with caution and with self-preservation intact.

He should keep his hair the natural color.

@AnnaLVajda

6 жыл бұрын

Ian Wyatt it's greying naturally.

What if you aren't wrong necessarily just on the wrong side of an argument? Slaves had a hell of a time. Should they have asked themselves what is wrong with them?

Why is the audience laughing when he's trying to make a very deep and important point?

Does this mean you give up on a spouse who was normal when you married them but few years down the line they developed depression /mental illness, and instead of helping them through that you leave them?

@tashalodge1340

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think you just leave, you try to help and decide how much of yourself you can or will sacrifice. If they can be helped and it's somewhat within their control they are responsible for getting help too. It's a lot different when they hurt others around them and even the immense pain they are causing the ones they claim to love isn't enough to get them to try to help themselves. If it begins to emotionally destroy the other partner I do think reevaluating is a good idea. It's not cruel. It's life sustaining.

Bipolar girlfriend in a nutshell.

Most of the comments are from people with who love a difficult person or love a person who has a problem like BPD. I’m BPD difficult. And it’s sooooooo disheartening and so cripplingly sad to know how people feel And think about you. It’s so hard to accept that the only way to get fixed is if they wanted. In 24 years I have been in “very motivated I want to get help” mood and I did but it ALWAYS COMES BACK. It’s feels like you’re awaiting an execution date because there is no cure. It’s so hard hearing people discuss how they should approach you and kick u like. Lifeguard or leave you alone. I’ve drowned so man times. I’ve also tried to drown purposely physically and twice it didn’t work. Then I got better then the bullshit comes back. It’s the worst hearing that you have the most complicated and dangerous mental health disorder A disorder that hurts your loved ones and pushes them away 😭😭😭 I pushed my self in a room alone for ten years and I still only talk to a few people Anyone that came to help me...eventually left They are allowed to Leave when they want But if I want to leave this world because my standard of life is never going to get better and I’m tired of hurting people. I have tried and wasted so much money getting help And it doesn’t work and the man you admire most Jordan Peterson...says you HAVE to leave them alone. That really really really throws Me 200Ft under. Makes me want to end it all. I agree with many of what he says but he was right when he said lead by example I’m aware BPD makes you highly sensitive, and untrustworthy and difficult. But once I met a therapist who was so gentle and kind and just listened. When I wanted answers he would tell me gently the right thing. For once I saw the light at the end of the tunnel but it is hard to sustain or even find helo from someone understanding or if not just calm and empathetic and really listens. No one has that much money to sustain this help. And worse. It’s very difficult to explain to anyone WHY THIS WAY OF HELP HELPED ME MORE. In a decade I got up from the bed and lifted my blinds and saw the sun and started crying . It feels like I’m Truely in the grave. I did and continue everyday to do something even if it’s just to brush my teeth Anyway my point is dr Peterson....with all the love and respect I have for you. I have hardly disagreed with you on anything but this Leaving people drowning is not the answer. I’m telling you this from years of feeling it and losing friends to this disease: Leaving us lost and drowning is soooo cruel. We are like you...except we don’t know wTH is happening to us. We’re scared and highly sensitive that you will LEAVE US and when you do leave us “to find your life” That’s when we know for the sake of humanity and all living creatures we should end our life. We feel the burden we give you heavily. We feel Society doesn’t need or want us. There is no cure and your life is not your owns You tell me what you would do to yourself inside your head if you were in our “BPD difficult personality bunch” We’re the group of people with many underlying health issues but can’t get out and when u walk I. The doctors room you see and fed the doctor taking a “deeeeep breath” We can see clearly we’re not wanted

Read my following comment Peterson

Jordan Peterson speaks as if ALL those listening to him are not at fault for relationship troubles. He most likely leads people who need help, deeper into the state of denial.

How about if some of your classmates got shot? Does that make you an expert on the 2nd amendment?

What if the world IS conspiring against you?

@marcof.5492

4 жыл бұрын

The world doesn't conspire against you. It's just that it's easier to believe that so you don't take responsibility for it.