So yesterday he pretended he cared about Sally and today he shows that he just wanted a reason to be close to John Paul, which is not romantic, it's selfish. If he cared about John Paul and cared about Sally, he would have been okay with him leaving the premises. Or he knew John Paul would leave anyway and that gave him a reason to suspend him 🙄
@punkrockjellytot
3 ай бұрын
That’s one reading of the situation. To me, it read that he genuinely cares for JP and wanted to support him so took him to the hospital and waited with him - I think we saw genuine Carter. He was starting to cave again, particularly when JP visited him and told him he still has feelings for him. But the one thing in life he has been led to believe is all he should work towards, would give him worth and should be what any normal healthy man should have - a heterosexual “normal” relationship which has taken so much work and sacrifice for him - has just been torn to shreds and he was powerless to stop it. He’s angry, resentful, he feels out of control and his entire existence to this point has been about controlling his impulses and desires and being controlled - he hates himself so much, and hates that this all has to be so difficult for him and he simply doesn’t know where to direct that energy to, besides the people he loves - he lashed out at Freya also, and JP. I read a lot of underlying hurt in his actions and motives, and not that he is evil or twisted.
@nacht_owl
3 ай бұрын
@@punkrockjellytot I really do agree with you. I don’t think he’s evil at all. But I do feel that Declan is actually evil.
Well, i am glad that this whole charade is over for maxine
@jennylazo89604 ай бұрын
poor john paul 😢
@vanessamillwood97104 ай бұрын
Declan is a madman
@hotspotsportal6699
3 ай бұрын
I knew the first time he showed up, that he was going to be the true villain.
@Ghet1044 ай бұрын
Yes Maxine was upset, but she took it more lightly then Sarah did when she found out about John-Paul and Craig.
@Robie212002
4 ай бұрын
God I miss Craig! Even though Guy Burnet is not interested in coming back they could get another actor to play Craig Dean.
@petermukasa3093
4 ай бұрын
Sarah was like 16 years old. Like a thousand years ago, lol.
@gareth.6657
3 ай бұрын
John Paul really has a knack for being caught pants down with different guys.
@punkrockjellytot
3 ай бұрын
Because she’s a class act. Such a graceful woman, deserves better. Also I guess the relationship was quite new, only 2-3 months or so. Pretty sure I remember Sarah found out years into the relationship at their engagement party lol.
@blackgaymer4507
3 ай бұрын
R.I.P. Sarah!😭
@Guardmuscian20133 ай бұрын
That last scene with Carter has me very worried......
@gareth.6657
3 ай бұрын
He's only reaping what he sowed.
@handsomemahlambi
3 ай бұрын
@@gareth.6657it’s true, if he had just let all those men be free and who they really are they wouldn’t have to suppress him back
@itsonlysound
3 ай бұрын
@@gareth.6657no, this was done to Carter from childhood so it’s already happened to him multiple times over. He’s been brainwashed and abused since he was a child - it’s why he is the way he is.
@itsonlysound
3 ай бұрын
@@handsomemahlambithat ignores the impact of what was done to him though? Every bad choice he makes is a result of the continuous abuse and brainwashing he has suffered so he thinks he’s helping people. He can’t just decide to not be brainwashed anymore, nor can JP convince him to magically erase 2+ decades of brainwashing in a few moments. He needs mental health support long term to heal from this and break the abusive cycle
@gareth.6657
3 ай бұрын
@@handsomemahlambi ✔️✔️
@loopstationyt4 ай бұрын
A low blow from Carter. He’s clearly trying to push JP away by suspending him but it won’t put out that spark.
@itsonlysound
4 ай бұрын
He's traumatised and lashes out when backed into a corner. It's the root of a lot of shitty behaviour.
@phillipbates9587
3 ай бұрын
Putting his frustration to JP. There is no reason to channel his anger out of him.
@hotspotsportal66993 ай бұрын
It's funny how Garreth just up and disappeared. Anyways, my prediction is everyone will find out about Carter, he'll be fired as head master for what he did to Lucas and everyone will hate him for his conversion therapy. The only person that will still care, aside from Freya, is JP and then after Carter has lost everything, he'll realize he needs to get his head out of his butt and finally be with JP properly.
@marsaltu87
3 ай бұрын
Redemption story would be interesting. They have great chemistry together
@itsonlysound
3 ай бұрын
He’s not going to realise anything without mental health support. And I do hope Hollyoaks goes that route because the idea that someone can just magically snap out of 2 decades of brainwashing and abuse is harmful. Carter will need extensive therapy
@hotspotsportal6699
3 ай бұрын
@@marsaltu87 They do! I haven't been this excited about a cute gay couple since Ben and Callum from Eastenders.
@punkrockjellytot
3 ай бұрын
I think the actor took a break for theatre! He may return for a bit at some point. He doesn’t seem to be have been to Liverpool for a while from social media, he’s London based.
@Robie2120024 ай бұрын
Just once I would like to see John Paul in a normal relationship and not go after sexually confused men. JP and Kieran would have been perfect if he hadn't been murdered.
@fizaahfaiyaz8942
3 ай бұрын
Kieran was so good. They made the best pair
@itsonlysound
3 ай бұрын
JP was cheating on him with ratboy Craig as Kieran was dying and pleading with Niall not to hurt JP. Then Michaela ended up mourning Kieran more than JP did.
@Hammermantv4 ай бұрын
8:47 what's going on their
@tapping-asmritalia66584 ай бұрын
He literally said he is bisexual instead of saying that he is just a gay man repressed, because I suppose he is not bisexual, right? Ok poor John Paul, but poor carter too in this last scene, like wtf is that?? 😢
@hotspotsportal6699
3 ай бұрын
Funnily enough, Carter's actor, David Ames, is actually Pansexual in real life.
@ceruleanshadowx4 ай бұрын
Who surprised that Carter retaliated against JP by suspending him?
@KH-xw7or2 ай бұрын
jp never learns not first time betrayed a friend for a man e.g Sarah and his own cousin.
@davidostrowski6793 ай бұрын
Directed by 'Yaz & Haz'? Are they getting GCSE they/thems to direct now
@doreenstallard32653 ай бұрын
Wheres Minnie?
@yeahthelozgaming3 ай бұрын
Dr Hawthorn will sort out Karter Shepherd
@Js2Jo4 ай бұрын
John Paul and Carter are both here on the show, but Maxine overhears them, he told her he's bisexual like me, not gay!! 😮
@Tiekin515
4 ай бұрын
It could be true, or he was lying to Maxine, so she knows he likes woman also
@ceruleanshadowx4 ай бұрын
Carter would do the same thing to Lucas without remorse
@dscrttwo2323 ай бұрын
This storyline is pathetic........
@user-cy4vw1qj9m3 ай бұрын
I thought when Cleo came back they would get rid of the bun cocking up on her hair. Makes her plain looking.
@user-cy4vw1qj9m3 ай бұрын
I suppose this anti gay thing goes on.
@bsbuster31093 ай бұрын
The stupid writers are ruining the huge potential of an excellent actor like David Ames and of his relationship with JP with whom he has great chemistry just for some teenage bs😡
@itsonlysound
3 ай бұрын
I’m still hoping they’re going to show how a victim of decades long abuse and CT breaks the cycle. It’s certainly more interesting and realistic than Lucas’s ridiculous storyline. A product of a queer friendly environment with no religious inclination whatsoever falling into religious based conversion therapy? It doesn’t happen in real life. The victims are always from religious environments.
@bsbuster3109
3 ай бұрын
@@itsonlysound exactly! Doesn't make any sense that Lucas or whatever his name is would be struggling with being gay!!! They just want to pander to teenage girls who like this kind of bs🙄
@itsonlysound
3 ай бұрын
@@bsbuster3109 They're certainly not putting any effort into making it believable. Lucas struggling a bit with being gay isn't something that I find a stretch, but struggling to the point where he was repeatedly violently lashing out (none of which had anything to do with Carter) and succumbing to Christian based conversion therapy? It just doesn't happen. It's like they're trying to create an obstacle in the form of an angsty struggle between Lucas and Dillon rather than putting any effort into their personalities, which neither has currently. The CT storyline wasn't written for Lucas and its pretty damn obvious its what they changed when the new producers took over.
@bsbuster3109
3 ай бұрын
@@itsonlysound oh I didn't know about the new producers! Even more infuriating😡 I was so excited about JP and Carter but these morons have ruined it all!
@swordscot
3 ай бұрын
No amount of conversion therapy would stop me fancying JP
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So yesterday he pretended he cared about Sally and today he shows that he just wanted a reason to be close to John Paul, which is not romantic, it's selfish. If he cared about John Paul and cared about Sally, he would have been okay with him leaving the premises. Or he knew John Paul would leave anyway and that gave him a reason to suspend him 🙄
@punkrockjellytot
3 ай бұрын
That’s one reading of the situation. To me, it read that he genuinely cares for JP and wanted to support him so took him to the hospital and waited with him - I think we saw genuine Carter. He was starting to cave again, particularly when JP visited him and told him he still has feelings for him. But the one thing in life he has been led to believe is all he should work towards, would give him worth and should be what any normal healthy man should have - a heterosexual “normal” relationship which has taken so much work and sacrifice for him - has just been torn to shreds and he was powerless to stop it. He’s angry, resentful, he feels out of control and his entire existence to this point has been about controlling his impulses and desires and being controlled - he hates himself so much, and hates that this all has to be so difficult for him and he simply doesn’t know where to direct that energy to, besides the people he loves - he lashed out at Freya also, and JP. I read a lot of underlying hurt in his actions and motives, and not that he is evil or twisted.
@nacht_owl
3 ай бұрын
@@punkrockjellytot I really do agree with you. I don’t think he’s evil at all. But I do feel that Declan is actually evil.
God, the last scene with Carter is terrifying…
I love that Maxine is not a weak girlie💅❤️
@tendaivushe23
18 күн бұрын
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@tendaivushe23
18 күн бұрын
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Well, i am glad that this whole charade is over for maxine
poor john paul 😢
Declan is a madman
@hotspotsportal6699
3 ай бұрын
I knew the first time he showed up, that he was going to be the true villain.
Yes Maxine was upset, but she took it more lightly then Sarah did when she found out about John-Paul and Craig.
@Robie212002
4 ай бұрын
God I miss Craig! Even though Guy Burnet is not interested in coming back they could get another actor to play Craig Dean.
@petermukasa3093
4 ай бұрын
Sarah was like 16 years old. Like a thousand years ago, lol.
@gareth.6657
3 ай бұрын
John Paul really has a knack for being caught pants down with different guys.
@punkrockjellytot
3 ай бұрын
Because she’s a class act. Such a graceful woman, deserves better. Also I guess the relationship was quite new, only 2-3 months or so. Pretty sure I remember Sarah found out years into the relationship at their engagement party lol.
@blackgaymer4507
3 ай бұрын
R.I.P. Sarah!😭
That last scene with Carter has me very worried......
@gareth.6657
3 ай бұрын
He's only reaping what he sowed.
@handsomemahlambi
3 ай бұрын
@@gareth.6657it’s true, if he had just let all those men be free and who they really are they wouldn’t have to suppress him back
@itsonlysound
3 ай бұрын
@@gareth.6657no, this was done to Carter from childhood so it’s already happened to him multiple times over. He’s been brainwashed and abused since he was a child - it’s why he is the way he is.
@itsonlysound
3 ай бұрын
@@handsomemahlambithat ignores the impact of what was done to him though? Every bad choice he makes is a result of the continuous abuse and brainwashing he has suffered so he thinks he’s helping people. He can’t just decide to not be brainwashed anymore, nor can JP convince him to magically erase 2+ decades of brainwashing in a few moments. He needs mental health support long term to heal from this and break the abusive cycle
@gareth.6657
3 ай бұрын
@@handsomemahlambi ✔️✔️
A low blow from Carter. He’s clearly trying to push JP away by suspending him but it won’t put out that spark.
@itsonlysound
4 ай бұрын
He's traumatised and lashes out when backed into a corner. It's the root of a lot of shitty behaviour.
@phillipbates9587
3 ай бұрын
Putting his frustration to JP. There is no reason to channel his anger out of him.
It's funny how Garreth just up and disappeared. Anyways, my prediction is everyone will find out about Carter, he'll be fired as head master for what he did to Lucas and everyone will hate him for his conversion therapy. The only person that will still care, aside from Freya, is JP and then after Carter has lost everything, he'll realize he needs to get his head out of his butt and finally be with JP properly.
@marsaltu87
3 ай бұрын
Redemption story would be interesting. They have great chemistry together
@itsonlysound
3 ай бұрын
He’s not going to realise anything without mental health support. And I do hope Hollyoaks goes that route because the idea that someone can just magically snap out of 2 decades of brainwashing and abuse is harmful. Carter will need extensive therapy
@hotspotsportal6699
3 ай бұрын
@@marsaltu87 They do! I haven't been this excited about a cute gay couple since Ben and Callum from Eastenders.
@punkrockjellytot
3 ай бұрын
I think the actor took a break for theatre! He may return for a bit at some point. He doesn’t seem to be have been to Liverpool for a while from social media, he’s London based.
Just once I would like to see John Paul in a normal relationship and not go after sexually confused men. JP and Kieran would have been perfect if he hadn't been murdered.
@fizaahfaiyaz8942
3 ай бұрын
Kieran was so good. They made the best pair
@itsonlysound
3 ай бұрын
JP was cheating on him with ratboy Craig as Kieran was dying and pleading with Niall not to hurt JP. Then Michaela ended up mourning Kieran more than JP did.
8:47 what's going on their
He literally said he is bisexual instead of saying that he is just a gay man repressed, because I suppose he is not bisexual, right? Ok poor John Paul, but poor carter too in this last scene, like wtf is that?? 😢
@hotspotsportal6699
3 ай бұрын
Funnily enough, Carter's actor, David Ames, is actually Pansexual in real life.
Who surprised that Carter retaliated against JP by suspending him?
jp never learns not first time betrayed a friend for a man e.g Sarah and his own cousin.
Directed by 'Yaz & Haz'? Are they getting GCSE they/thems to direct now
Wheres Minnie?
Dr Hawthorn will sort out Karter Shepherd
John Paul and Carter are both here on the show, but Maxine overhears them, he told her he's bisexual like me, not gay!! 😮
@Tiekin515
4 ай бұрын
It could be true, or he was lying to Maxine, so she knows he likes woman also
Carter would do the same thing to Lucas without remorse
This storyline is pathetic........
I thought when Cleo came back they would get rid of the bun cocking up on her hair. Makes her plain looking.
I suppose this anti gay thing goes on.
The stupid writers are ruining the huge potential of an excellent actor like David Ames and of his relationship with JP with whom he has great chemistry just for some teenage bs😡
@itsonlysound
3 ай бұрын
I’m still hoping they’re going to show how a victim of decades long abuse and CT breaks the cycle. It’s certainly more interesting and realistic than Lucas’s ridiculous storyline. A product of a queer friendly environment with no religious inclination whatsoever falling into religious based conversion therapy? It doesn’t happen in real life. The victims are always from religious environments.
@bsbuster3109
3 ай бұрын
@@itsonlysound exactly! Doesn't make any sense that Lucas or whatever his name is would be struggling with being gay!!! They just want to pander to teenage girls who like this kind of bs🙄
@itsonlysound
3 ай бұрын
@@bsbuster3109 They're certainly not putting any effort into making it believable. Lucas struggling a bit with being gay isn't something that I find a stretch, but struggling to the point where he was repeatedly violently lashing out (none of which had anything to do with Carter) and succumbing to Christian based conversion therapy? It just doesn't happen. It's like they're trying to create an obstacle in the form of an angsty struggle between Lucas and Dillon rather than putting any effort into their personalities, which neither has currently. The CT storyline wasn't written for Lucas and its pretty damn obvious its what they changed when the new producers took over.
@bsbuster3109
3 ай бұрын
@@itsonlysound oh I didn't know about the new producers! Even more infuriating😡 I was so excited about JP and Carter but these morons have ruined it all!
@swordscot
3 ай бұрын
No amount of conversion therapy would stop me fancying JP