Have seen the Big Lebowski like 100 times and never noticed that connection between Milius and Walter

@davidlean1060

Жыл бұрын

It hints at how the Coens see Millius too, don't you think? Walter is outspoken, but still manages to be the very thing he accuses Donny of being, out of touch. Makes you think that's what the Coens see Millius as being.

@NefariousKoel

Жыл бұрын

They've stated that they didn't base his character on Milius, but I expect that was to avoid insult and/or conflict. It's easy to see they took inspiration from him, though.

@marknewton6984

Жыл бұрын

They were separated at birth.

Excellent essay. It's always mindblowing how close the club of Milius, Coppola, Spielberg, De Palma, Schrader, & Lucas, etc were in the '60s/early '70s. That's like Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, Chopin, & Tchaikovsky attending the same high school in the same year. And _Jeremiah Johnson_ is a masterpiece.

@picard714

Жыл бұрын

Beautifully said...

@simonhandy962

Жыл бұрын

I wonder how George Lucas's Apocalypse Now would have turned out. And if he had got Coppola to direct Stars Wars for him instead.

@aaronthompson192

Жыл бұрын

@@simonhandy962 apocalypse now would have been like every other anti war art house film and star wars would have been jodorowsky's dune?

@JamesOversteer

Жыл бұрын

Got to be a reason behind it. I don't believe its skill or talent!

@MrBojangles901

Жыл бұрын

And Kurosawa

John Milius doesn’t get enough love

@marknewton6984

Жыл бұрын

He was brilliant.

@nathansteinfromarkham7109

4 ай бұрын

No thanks to those useless corpos.

The fusion of Milius and Coppola working from opposite ends of the political spectrum to create this masterpiece, it's brilliant. It needs the absolute madness of Milius' hawkish outlook to convey the full reality.

@marknewton6984

Жыл бұрын

I hate Zen. I hate Anarchy. But I like Milius.

@dinorocker8647

9 ай бұрын

Well Milius is crazy, but in a good way, I don't think he's really for anarchy 'cause he'd be for the bullshit goin' on in Portland and elsewhere, he's just an anti authoritarian like me, doesn't like bein' told what to do, he just has a militant approach to doin' the right way, besides just because Milius says something outrageous don't mean he'd do it, besides the guys who've done the worst, most outrageous stuff in the entertainment industry are absolutely unhinged, like Phil Specter, that guy made Milius look like Gandhi in terms of crazy and he was insane, Milius from what I've heard never waved a gun around or threatened anyone with it.@@marknewton6984

@kristoffer3000

8 ай бұрын

@@marknewton6984 Pretty much guarantee you know nothing about what anarchists actually want.

@JesusMagicPanties

2 ай бұрын

It's interesting that little, grotesque, fat guys that often pretend to be "hawkish" and mumbling about "will of power". Quite a clinical issue.

@JB-ti7bl

25 күн бұрын

@@kristoffer3000 Anarchists have the advantage of knowing their ideas will never be implemented on a wide scale, so they can pontificate with confidence. See: Libertarian Party.

_Conan the Barbarian_ alone is enough for me to always be grateful for Milius.

@michaeldavid6832

Жыл бұрын

CTB was the first rated R movie I ever watched. It was the borderline between my childhood innocence and my growing suspicion that the adult world was filled with horrors and madness. I saw the film in the theater when it was first released.

@jkdbuck7670

Жыл бұрын

My stepdad was awesome and let me watch Conan at 8 years old. And Bladerunner, and Road Warrior. He didn't let me see any nudity of course, but now that I'm a dad, I know WHY he had me watch them.

@dinorocker8647

9 ай бұрын

Wow he let ya watch Conan 1 but didn't let ya watch any nudity, Conan 1 had a bunch of nudity, granted nothing like a Verhoeven film, but still quite a bit.@@jkdbuck7670

MILIUS ROCKS! He taught a screenwriting class at our film school, was honest and very funny. I still feel guilt for taking him off his diet by sneaking him pizza during breaks. He even showed us a rough cut of Conan with scenes so intense they were removed from the final cut. Hail to the "Movie Brats".

For a man who says he was born into the wrong time. He had an exceptionally lucky life and even a year earlier he wouldn't have known Lucas or Coppola getting a $77,000 job and no need to work up the tanks. His families wealth being a big help also for him to go on this weird winding life path.

@JakeKilka

Жыл бұрын

Well, having this conflict between the present time and nostalgic ideas of the past can be very inspirational to a writer. For example, if you spent a few months living on the mountains, the ruleset you live by gets simpler each day, and it can feel surprisingly natural, reasonable and meaningful. When you come back to "the civilized world", chances are you will be shocked by it's superficialities and falsehoods. Then you'll remember "Oh yeah, there's still culture, there are books, music and movies in this place", which makes it meaningful but on an another level. Maybe Milius' experience was something like this? Without any conflict it's hard to know what to write about, except nice post cards, so it's well possible Milius, being a good writer, sort of creates conflicts on an ideal level just to excel in his work.

@aaronthompson192

Жыл бұрын

Luck is relative. His career was also cut short due to Hollywood politics and he had a stroke that has crippled him for the last 12 years. Coppela gave him that 70k because he knew his talent; he became the Hollywood golden boy script writer without Coppelas help- remember he wrote the script for Apocalypse Now ten years before it came out. I highly suggest you watch the documentary Milius, it's free on KZread.

@marknewton6984

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronthompson192 Yes you make your own Luck. I know lots of Rich guys who died young. Talent is not relative.

@aaronthompson192

Жыл бұрын

@@marknewton6984 agreed.

@Subo23

Жыл бұрын

Exceptionally lucky?

Gary Busey's "I'm not crazy!" scene in "Big Wednesday" shaped my life! Haha. Screaming "I'm not crazy!" as crazy as you can is like screaming "I can't breathe!" whilst hyperventilating! Hilarious

It's a shame Filmmakers no longer get this level of freedom any more with big budget Films.

@punishedbarca761

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, Coppola basically bet his entire net worth and studio on the film. I don't know a filmmaker these days who would do the crazy shit Coppola did to get the film made.

@michaelhall2709

Жыл бұрын

@@punishedbarca761 Yep. Well said. And while the young generation of “Raging Bulls” were given an unprecedented amount of creative freedom up until the commercial failure of HEAVEN’S GATE in 1980, no one was ever handed a blank check. Whatever freedom Coppola had to make APOCALYPSE his way, he paid for.

@jgarfunkle

Жыл бұрын

Really? I thought strong woman good, orange man bad and wypipo evil were all very original ideas. Oh and dude weed lmao.

@marknewton6984

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelhall2709 You always pay to play. Nothing is free.

@MrRufusRToyota

11 ай бұрын

You do if you pay for it yourself.

Man your research and essay is worth a prize. These videos are nothing but a treasure.

@user-rt9zq8rs9k

7 ай бұрын

Uh , go watch MILIUS the documentary . The DVD is not an American version BUT you can watch it somewhere on one of the free streaming sites . Most of the facts in this video was from the documentary

Thank you Cinema Tyler, for continuing this amazing series. Truly, this is the highest caliber of film analysis. This should be a Netflix series. Bravo!

@canturgan

Жыл бұрын

Ironically it's Netflix and other streaming services that will kill the cinema experience.

@jackelproductions7035

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@danjosefsson1715

Жыл бұрын

Right on.

What a golden generation of film makers and writters. Great essay.

@marknewton6984

Жыл бұрын

Would Kurtz be transgender today?

@LordVader1094

Жыл бұрын

@@marknewton6984 Bro are you okay lol

@marknewton6984

Жыл бұрын

@@LordVader1094 I'M fine. Don't miss the metaphor. I was just commenting that they couldn't make that movie today!

@candide1065

Жыл бұрын

@@LordVader1094 Bru are YOU ok lulz xD

Left, Right, Middle. Everyone just wants to create a god dang good movie.

I sincerely hope that someone associated with Coppola is watching this series. It should be an extra on a future release of the film some day, as it is so well done.

The way the film came together and how it turned out is truly a miracle of cinema.

@darkcornersuk

9 ай бұрын

Lightning In a bottle

Whenever i read or see about Milius i'm always left wanting, such an interesting character of which are becoming rare in Hollywood

@NefariousKoel

Жыл бұрын

Likewise. An unusual Hollywood personality for sure. Plus his regular trolling of his many fellow Hollywood movers and shakers who held different opinions provides plenty dark humor to laugh about. There's a reason the over-the-top caricature of him in The Big Lebowski is a standout.

@dinorocker8647

Жыл бұрын

Well he's the guy who despite his off the wall idiosyncrasies, is a guy who Hollywood has always hated, a guy who don't walk their 'white line" (which to be honest is anything but), who don't play by their rules, and spat in their face and said F--- OFF, despite Milius sayin' "I am a Communist", the people in Hollywood he detests are just that.

@marknewton6984

Жыл бұрын

@@NefariousKoel Milius was unique. Hollywood today is full of errand boys.

The main takeaway for me is how brilliant George Lucas was in his early days. He was the main idea guy of that entire group. Please consider doing an in-depth expose of George Lucas!

Its crazy how insane writers and directors complete masterpieces. Art is always some form of insanity. 😁

@user-rt9zq8rs9k

7 ай бұрын

I never thought of MILIUS as crazy . I think of him as a tough guy .

One of the great films of our generation gets the best analysis I've ever seen. Once completed, I will revisit the entire series. Brilliant.

Love Milius. I've never been a fantasy guy whatsoever..just not my thing but I absolutely fkin adore Conan and it feels like a actual RPG at moments which is fascinating considering how much fantasy is utilized in those games.

@jasonhunter2819

Жыл бұрын

I love Milius's work, I think the man was a massive asshole and not infrequent real piece of garbage

Well done. I've watched the movie a couple dozen times since it first hit the theaters, in every version. Watched the documentaries and interviews. And still learned new things from this video. BTW, I had no idea how much John Milius sounds like John Goodman.

@marknewton6984

Жыл бұрын

Were they separated at birth?!

@vincentgoupil180

9 ай бұрын

Ha, thought he looked like Goodman too. Then, all these guys gaining weight look like Goodman. The actor Elliot Gould came to mind for some reason.

Just want to say a big thank you for this episode. It's nice to see you do an episode dedicated to Milius' involvement. It is something that is usually side-lined or completely ignored (for whatever reason) in celebrating or acknowledging the epic that is Apocalypse Now.

Milius is the last true Rebel who got to work within the studio system.

@marknewton6984

Жыл бұрын

Yes he would be banned today.

@adellis24

Жыл бұрын

@@marknewton6984 Because Hollywood is overrun with idiotic leftards who care not for the Art or People involved in its creation, instead only caring about the profits & regressive politics.

It takes extraordinary people to create masterpieces. Sometimes they are on the edge of madness and are at the edge of going too far. But that can be what it takes. Apocalypse Now is brilliant on so many levels. Thanks for the video.

The true stories that got written in are the best part. My dad's best friend in the Mekong Delta was the guy who got court martialed for water skiing behind the boat.

@dinorocker8647

Жыл бұрын

What a drag, gettin' CM'ed for water skiin' behind a Mekong gun boat, of course it really would've sucked it some Charlie Cong in the bush got cheeky and decided to use him as target practice, or a mortar barrage started up, and then that really wouldn't have been cool.

Thanks for covering John Milius! Amazing Voice! It was a crime that Rome didn't get more seasons.

@ryangettig274

Жыл бұрын

How many seasons did it get and is it worth watching?:)

@aaronburk6929

Жыл бұрын

@@ryangettig274 Just two seasons but some of the best HBO ever. IMO helped pave the way for Game of Thrones.

@ryangettig274

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronburk6929 Thanks,I'll be screening:)

@michaelhall2709

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronburk6929 “Rome” was popular with audiences, but also very expensive.

An epic film. The eerie synth music really adds to the atmosphere, particularly when they approach the Kurtz compound.

Thank you, Tyler, for this treatise on one of the last great adventurers of filmmaking. Milius was a true mad lad that we as filmgoers are better off for knowing (or should I say, experiencing).

Really like how much info you've been able to arrange and format into so many videos about apocalypse

Using my Easter break to binge this collection. As well as being a huge fan of Martin Sheen, I was also a Jan Michael Vincent fan girl. Thankfully, Martin exorcised his demons; such a shame that Jan Michael did not. Thanks for your hard work!

Milius, bless his heart, always seemed to have the opposite of a surfer's body 😄

This is the most impressive KZread channel I have ever seen. Following your work is like getting the best film essays from the best film magazines, but even better and with sound and vision. It's truly amazing how good this is.

You sort of see how Apocalypse Now which is meant to be an anti war movie in it's final form, is often seen through a pro war lense espcially the Ride of The Valkyries scene. Through John Milius's influences, and not re-reading Heart of Darkness again, seen as it's an anti-imperial book.

@Jim-Tuner

Жыл бұрын

Like Heart of Darkness, the film was designed to show the war in a growing more brutal and negative night as you go up the river. The Ride of the Valkyries is at the mouth of the river and its all high tech warfare in clean uniforms with beach parties. But at each stage up the river, it becomes more brutal and chaotic. You get to the bridge scene in the jungle and nobody is in command, the fighting is senseless and nobody wants to be there. The book had the same structure. At every stage deeper up the river you get further from the civilization and the values of the people on the outside.

@FIREBRAND38

Жыл бұрын

The problem with "antiwar" films in general is that they tend to highlight the absurdity of the military especially in wartime. Thing is, when I was on active duty in the Army I'd hate to tell you how many NCOs and officers were quoting bits of this movie. Think of it, we were all like, "A bunch of Hollywood libs who never served are gonna tell _us_ how screwed up the military is? Hold my beer!

@MacSmithVideo

Жыл бұрын

Lefty movies get embraced by the right. Rightwing authors get adapted by the left. Anti-war movies become pro-war. Mass hysteria!

@travistolin5031

Жыл бұрын

@@MacSmithVideo it’s like how most hard right meat heads love Rage Against The Machine. They flat out don’t understand.

@dinorocker8647

Жыл бұрын

@@FIREBRAND38 Well 'Nam was a f---ed up war, but films like Shit Splatoon and Full Metal Jackoff basically were films showin' our guy's as a bunch of murderers and rapists and that shit had been goin' on long before we got there, but I think the true "Anti War" films are films like Saving Pvt. Ryan, Windtalkers, etc. etc .etc. in the vein of those films that show the reality of the war, but ya see the heroism and bravery, but it shows the effects the war has on 'em, it humanizes 'em and shows they're regular guys who feel like everyone else, instead of dehumanizin' them like the afforementioned war films at the start did.

Idk what it is but it’s fascinating to me that two opposing political sides created one of the greatest movies of all time. Great video.

What a legend this guy is. Thanks for this!

@marknewton6984

Жыл бұрын

I am now a Big Milius Fan!!

nice to see this guys talent explored without a bunch of political pontificating really informative and entertaining watch

Oh hell yes. CinemaTyler bringing the goods as usual.

Just an unbelievable series. Your dedication and consistency are amazing.

I feel like I should mention, Vonnegut, who was right in the middle of Dresden in 1945, mocked, "Duke Wayne" as a draft dodger.

@michaelhall2709

Жыл бұрын

When Vonnegut was writing his classic anti war novel “Slaughterhouse-Five,” he assured the wife of a friend that there would be no part for John Wayne to play in the film version.

Unbelievably great work Tyler. One of the best video essays I've ever listened to. Thank you.

Absolute quality as always. Your deep dive style really is a rarity, the information and trivia is vast and varied. Thanks so much, it always makes my day to see your name pop up on my feed ;)

This is rare you guys, this kind of attention and focus on details....great work CinemaTyler

Hell yeah dude. Always worth the wait.

This is certainly one of the best content around the internet! Keep the good work!

Enjoying this essay. Can't wait for the next part Tyler.

Amazing work on this series Tyler. Thanks again

John Milius seems like the type of guy who, if I met him, I would either totally like or absolutely hate. No in between.

@michaelhall2709

Жыл бұрын

I’d absolutely hate him, but so long as the subject of our conversation was APOCALYPSE NOW (or BIG WEDNESDAY, or HBO’s “Rome”), he’d never know it. It is possible to separate the artist and their art, though not always easily.

@kendallrivers1119

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelhall2709 I get that you don't agree with his politics but you'd seriously hate someone because they don't vote the way you do or have philosophical differences from yourself? That's pretty sad and hypocritical isn't it?

@candide1065

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelhall2709 Why would you hate him? Because he is too based or not left wing enough?

Excellent job as always. Goes without question he's one of the greatest screenwriters ever.

Awesome video, beautifully researched and just perfect clip choices.

This channel is great! It continues to produce some the best content available on KZread!!

This channel is the absolute b-e-s-t, BEST, breakdown of movies and movie-making on KZread. Considering the vast deluge of self-professed film snobs out there who think having a camera, a handful of regurgitated opinions, and several hours to spend talking to themselves is all that's required to be a film critic... you may quite literally be 1-in-a-Million. Please keep up the excellent work.

Another truly great video... thanks for your work, Ty!

Another brilliant BRILLIANT behind-the-scenes chapter from my favorite KZread channel: Cinema Tyler!!!

Excellent as always!

This series is amazing! Thank you so much!!

Amazing video man!!! Fantastic job🤘🏻🤘🏻

This was so amazing . You do such incredible work Mr Tyler. Hey is it true he had a series of strokes and can no longer speak or write? If so it just even more incredible the spirit and creative energy he put forth into the world. I wonder how he's doing. This was an awesome tribute. It be cool to send to him and his family. Thanks again for your hard work good sir .. Have a great creative flow into 2023

I'm really enjoying this series so far!!

Excellent work, Tyler. Loved this journey up the river.

@marknewton6984

Жыл бұрын

The river of no return...

5:32 THANK YOU! I immediately thought of this scene. You sir, are marvelous

great video man, very informative, Milius is definitely under the radar in terms of writing quality, perhaps even as a director. overall a very interesting personality who contributed to many of the greatest films! well done

Definitely on tap for the Michael Herr post edition because APOCALYPSE NOW minus the Herr narration is like cutting The Doors or Wagner out of the soundtrack; it might be one of the best V.O.s of all time. It surprises me it's not mentioned more. Anyone who picks up a copy of Herr's DISPATCHES about his time embedded in Vietnam can instantly understand where the deadly, war-torn, jungle-drenched pathos of Willard originates.

Brilliant work man!

Absolutely brilliant!

This is a truly wonderful series. Absolutely hooked.

Fantastic work!

Wow, thanks for this! I always wondered where the title of one of my favorite movies originated! Milius turning a peace sign into B-52 is genius.

My god..God... you're doing amazing work. Thank you.

What's this? Art analysis about a creator with complicated politics that isn't just a bunch of hand-wringing and moralizing and saying "Person bad, therefor their art is bad!" Bravo!

Great work as always.

Well done. I haven't watched anything that tells the story so well.

I commend you for making these videos. I've been transfixed by apocalypse now since I first saw it and it has been a creative muse for me in my film making / writing. Finding the thrown out drafts - and why they were thrown out - have been some of the greatest epiphanies in my film making journey so far

Milius also wrote and created the HBO Series Rome one of the greatest TV Shows ever made.

Possibly my favourite in your series so far, great work. When will the 'Voice Over' video be released?

There's a Walt vs Disney video discussing the man's genious!

Fantastic!

So good! Cinema Tyler > TV

So excited to watch this one, thanks Tyler.

One of my favorite movies ever

John Milius is Simply and Irresistibly Brilliant!!!!

This is a really fine Milius tribute. I feel like I came away with a much better understanding of him than with the usual profiles, even his big documentary. There are contradictory elements with his work that you reconcile - basically he's a crypto aristocrat and vitalist rather than a clever philistine. (Knowing that his dad attended _Harvard_ is certainly instructive.) Thank you for all your great work.

Wow this is great!

Fascinating.

Good stuff mate 🤝

Milius sounds BASED.

Great video as usual Tyler! Thank you! Milius also (supposedly) wrote Quint's USS Indianapolis speech in Jaws. I never knew George Lucas was an early director contender for Apocalypse Now. What would that have looked like?!

@dinorocker8647

Жыл бұрын

Not supposedly, he did, Robert Shaw revised it by keepin'the meat and guttin' the fat, and the end result it what ya see in film.

One of my favorite episodes of MIAMI VICE was written by Milius . It was about a little group criminal bikers . I think it was named Bikers From Hell . Really VIOLENT . The Native American Billy from the PREDATOR movie was one of the bikers . I think je needed the money after RED DAWN .

well done, thank you

Just a small historical / vocabulary tidbit : "Khan" is a title, similar to "King". Name of the guy was Temujin, Chinghis Khan means "Universal King" or something of the like PS: love this series, thank you so much for the documentaries. I discovered it yesterday and am binge-watching

Hey, man, you've enlarged my mind with this episode...

@marknewton6984

Жыл бұрын

Groovy! Sean Flynn still missing.

It's certainly explains the Kurtz Is Right subtext to the movie, which thanks to Coppola I guess is also subverted aggressively.

Great video. This is the best movie ever made.

After revisiting Apocalypse Now and catching up with your series. It makes so much sense that the film has these psychedelic tinges to the story and Wilard's journey into the jungle. A counter culture dive into the heart of war and insanity that was produced. And I think it's ironic that Milius had this far right view while at the same time being so sure of this cataclysmic idea of ultimate change.

Nice work.

That I detest his politics in no way diminishes my respect for what John Milius accomplished with APOCALYPSE NOW. It was a brilliant concept, and there’s no question that many of the best moments in the film originated with him. That said, there’s also no underlying theme or structure without Joseph Conrad, who is referenced frequently in Coppola’s draft revisions and Michael Herr’s narration, both of which thankfully substituted Conrad’s thematic ambition and literacy for Milius’ macho posturing. And the end result of all of these varied perspectives is an extraordinary work, for all its flaws. So why, when it came time to give Joseph Conrad his due, did Milius have to be such a dick about it, fighting with Coppola before the Writer’s Guild to keep Conrad’s name out of the film’s credits? Asserting that “if APOCALYPSE NOW is based on ‘Heart of Darkness’ then ‘Moby Dick’ is based on the Book of Job” may have satisfied John Milius’ need to sound clever, but of course you can’t say that and then go on to pat yourself on the back for succeeding where Orson Welles failed.

@marknewton6984

Жыл бұрын

Well, he did do Citizen Kane.

@candide1065

Жыл бұрын

cry about it

@michaelhall2709

8 ай бұрын

@@candide1065Try a response in coherent English next time, child.

@edwinve4112

4 ай бұрын

​​@@michaelhall2709 Lmao you are the one crying about someone's politics, i wouldn't be surprised if you wanted to kill somebody for that

Love his film, Dillinger.

Lovin' you Apocalypse shit....Great Job

I love this guy.

My favorite movie

Great video! And yes, Khan is Milius' cameo in Red Dawn (don't remember my source; might be the old Cinemafantisque magazine). BTW (and maybe you cover this in your supplemental materials; sorry, haven't looked yet), if you or anyone is a fan of Milius, check out Steven Ericksen's loving yet hilarious portrait of him as Viking Man in his book "Zeroville" (haven't seen, nor want to see James Franco's movie, though).

@dinorocker8647

Жыл бұрын

F--- Franco, that guy was always a piece of shit, besides I didn't know someone actually played (not parodied) him in a film, I love John Milius, he's a BAD MOTHERF---ER, but he's a great guy deep down, despite his wackiness, he's basically a big teddy bear, a big teddy bear who loves Cuban cigars and AK-47's.