Full podcast episode: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pGirrrqHqcfglbw.html Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzread.info Guest bio: John Mearsheimer is an international relations scholar at University of Chicago. He is one of the most influential and controversial thinkers in the world on the topics of war and power.

@IonlyWantToBeAMonk

6 ай бұрын

Thanks Lex

@mariomastadon7650

6 ай бұрын

much shorter(10-15 min) clips will get you much more views. Love your podcasts

@TeamShylo

6 ай бұрын

The thing i’m struggling with is the labelling of Hamas as a terrorist group or some say resistance fighters, i was adamant that i saw them as a terror group before i seen something about Nelson Mandela. Nelson Mandela was labelled a terrorist for taking up arms and fighting apartheid occupation. This is what has kind of put my view from adamant to a grey area of im not sure. I also habe to think what if just one british child was murdered unjustly by an occupying regime the whole country the whole of nato would erupt. The moment an occupying force even tried to enter our waters theyd be blown out of existence. Now 100s of children prior to oct 7 sre unjustly killed in the west bank and gaza by illegal settlers. 1000s being forced out of thier homes. Is the reaction of these people any different to what ours would be. Then i struggle with the label of terror and before people start going on im not in anyway shape or form sympathetic of terrorist whatsoever but a terrorist group for example Isis. Al Shabab, Al Quadea. The Caliphate. Lee Rigby here in london. The manchester arena bombing. 911. 7/7, the kidnapping of the school girls in africa. Like these as we can all agree are abhorrent terror attacks. People who attack for no reason whatsoever but for extreme radical senselessness targetting completely innocent people for absolutely no credible reason whatsoever but to cause death and terror. But with Palestine i see to many reasons that are infact real solid legitimate reasons and they have no actual legitimate means to resist but to do these evil things and this is why they need a recognised state be a recognised and respect and respectful member of the international community which in itself is crazy as why when the israeli state formally made 75 years ago what happened to Palestine that existed there anyway like why wasnt 2 states recognised in the moment of creating israel. We need peace and we need an end to the lobby groups theyre bad in the uk aswell its simply just legal bribery and is exactly why our nations are on a decline governments dont implement policies based on the best solutions for the people or the country the policies are all lobbied to serve self interests of the powerful groups and people and its all is average everyday hardworking citizens thats suffering gravely.

@mariomastadon7650

6 ай бұрын

@@TeamShylo Let's add America to the topic for a second. In some places one can argue, they are doing good spreading their ideology. But in others they are seen as the terrorist(Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria to mention a few). The first half of the 20th century, the Chinese saw them as the imperialist terrorist trying to take away their land that the Chinese had lived on for millenia...

@josephjames8131

6 ай бұрын

1200 were killed not 1400.

You know it’s a heavy topic when a ‘clip’ is an hour long

@zombiehampster1397

6 ай бұрын

Most topics of substance should be that long or more imo.

@supascrape2916

6 ай бұрын

- Missed the point

@FrictionFive

6 ай бұрын

Yep! Lex “clips” are feature-length! 😂

@johngeiger3770

6 ай бұрын

Lex understand the importance of context and he is apparently very serious about including it all in his hour long 'clips', especially when discussing issues as sensitive as this.

@ourbleakhouse

6 ай бұрын

it's an hour long clip bc LF is a dumbass

As an American , I believe there should be NO interest group giving money to politicians. Enough!

@Manuel-un4vm

16 күн бұрын

They call it lobbying. The word they are looking for is bribery

@Kamaln2

8 күн бұрын

Wish more Americans like yourself were running for office

This is how a conversation should happen.. no one shouting over each other just different points being herd

@ibrahimbabangida6016

6 ай бұрын

Unlike the hypocrite Piers Morgan

@xyzabc9628

6 ай бұрын

Ideally there shouldnt need to be a dialogue to debate about genocide, but western "democracy" and "human rights" are one of a kind

@billcarson482

6 ай бұрын

@@xyzabc9628hi bigot. Genocide? Hahahahahahahahaha

@xyzabc9628

6 ай бұрын

@@billcarson482 yes colonialist, a genocide. If you’d dig out your glorious history, you’d find that your ruling elite has done nothing but loot and massacres under the garb of democracy, freedom and human rights.

@salarrue78

6 ай бұрын

@@xyzabc9628 ohh right, because 'western democracy' has such a stellar historical track record in defence of human rights. man you have no critical thinking of your own

It seems so simple when logical people debate this way but ultimately there are those amongst us that have no intention for compromise

@Pi_travel

24 күн бұрын

There's no debate here. It is interview. Lex did not share any counter-arguments.

@soulfireonfire6423

20 күн бұрын

@@Pi_travel He sorta did share his feelings in away , without coming right out and saying it!

Amazing! Very polite, descriptive and sensible analysis by Professor Mearsheimer

@jonathanbailey1597

6 ай бұрын

Professor Mearsheimer.

@Bladieblah

6 ай бұрын

When you have even a basic understanding of the facts and history of the conflict you should be appalled by what doesn't amount to anything more than parroting Palestinian propaganda. It's incredible how an academic that is supposed to be an expert gets so many facts plain wrong at first and then spirals into maliciously and in bad faith parroting the most ridiculous misinformation. And honestly as a host, Lex should have stepped in and corrected him because this was egregious Just going over a few things. Israel has offered peace multiple times during Hamas reign of Gaza and the PA's rule of the West Bank. Arafat and Abass have each walked away from those peace talks and, in contrast to what the professor claimed, were clearly not interested in a two state solution. "Apartheid" is a hilarious accusation against the country with by far the best track record on human rights in the middle east. It's a complete joke of an accusation and all those reports do is twist security measures against Palestinian terrorism as constituting an apartheid regime. But by far the most baffling is the claim that Israel is ideologically determined to take all the land while both Hamas and the PA are interested in peace. Literally everything about the situation points to the contrary. Israel voluntarily withdrew from Gaza in 2005, Israel only strikes back after major terror acts that demand a response. Meanwhile Hamas charter states it wants to destroy the state of Israel and kill all the Jews. Protestors everywhere literally chant "from the river to the sea", yet it's Israel that wants all the land? In UNRWA schools, children are taught that Israel took their land and the land is all theirs. It's in childrens songs and everything. UNRWA teachers celebrated october 7th on social media. The degree of radicalization cannot be underestimated. The reason Arafat and Abass walked away from peace talks was because they could never sell a deal to their people that gave them only half off the land or less, because it's all theirs in their opinion. Oh wait I forgot about something even crazier. "Ethnic cleansing". If Israel wanted to ethnically cleanse Gaza they could do it, they could carpet bomb the place and kill hundreds of thousands yet they don't. Israel has a 20% Israeli Arab population while no Jew can live safely in the West Bank or Gaza, they'd be killed, but it's Israel that is ethnically cleansing areas? Claims about genocide are equally ridiculous and have no basis in reality. Definitely a moment where the host should have stepped in

@imac2682

5 ай бұрын

Well said.

@jonathanbailey1597

5 ай бұрын

@@Bladieblah Well, your imagination is far more capacious than your ability to entertain the facts (or context). Never seen so much brazen cherry picking in my life. Beggars belief. No one is buying, for obvious reasons.

@Bladieblah

5 ай бұрын

@@jonathanbailey1597 And not a single argument made, as usual. Your response is incredibly intellectually lazy. You haven't provided any context or pointed out how I was cherry picking. I can't respond to this. The issue is that I have seen plenty of pro-Palestine sources and people speaking on behalf of them. None have ever put anything forward that undermines what I'm saying. Respectfully, make your case or shut up

Someone send this to Piers and tell him this is how you’re supposed to conduct an interview.👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

thank you john for speaking the truth, and thank you lex for reporting the truth, huge respect to you, salute brotha

Congratulations from Italy on the terrific job you do everyday with all sorts of guests!

Lex is a man of integrity! I always appreciate his willingness to give just time to every perspective. We need more people like these two gentlemen..sadly people in powerful positions are fueled by hate and that pollutes your ability to reason..

@crazyking50

6 ай бұрын

No he is not a man of integrity especially when the facts have been revised, 1200 dead and a lot of those were not civilians and the majority of the deaths at the music festival were gunned down and literally obliterated by Apache gun ships this is from haratz. And and in one instance 18 hostages were killed by tank gun fire . And mowing the lawn? Is an Israeli objective and they are not shy about it and Netanyahu talking about Amalek? As in killing every man woman and child , so yeah he is being disingenuous. And the rape of women and be heading babies ? No evidence of it and yes we all condemn what hamas did.

@luisvillatoro6730

6 ай бұрын

He approach to this interview was shit , he tried to spin the narrative against his guest but got shot down most of the time

@amehu

6 ай бұрын

For real, no hate can kill love and belief. Even though our governments and corporations are trying hard, and sadly succeeding too .. but people are waking up ❤🙏

@thowl7065

6 ай бұрын

People in power aren't this smart.

@ndgrad22

6 ай бұрын

Will the people wake up? How would we know?

Thank the Universe we have people like you mr. Fridman ! To start every discussion of from a point of curiosity and/or love is a wonderful trade to have as a human being.

@maxk6867

6 ай бұрын

All he does is ask sleepy questions without taking any position himself. Not very impressive

@hirkballs

6 ай бұрын

​@maxk6867 I look forward to the podcast you produce on the topic since you seem to have so much insight.

@SangreGuerrero

6 ай бұрын

@@maxk6867 if it’s not for you, it’s not for you ! Lots of other podcasts out there. Personally i enjoy the calmer way he does his podcast and staying as objective as possible. The world is polarizing enough already.

@maxk6867

6 ай бұрын

@SangreGuerrero to echo the old adage about all evil needs etc., he's calm and chill as thousands of children are being murdered. He's welcome to do so, but as a fellow jew, I find him to be a spineless embarrassment here. Murdered kids shouldn't be polarizing unless you're a zionist shill

@ceroid3752

6 ай бұрын

​@@maxk6867And yet there is very little people like him around and probably many many millions of people like you. Like you were mass produced on an industrial line.

Lex, You are so calm and fair with intelligent and brief questions that I must say you are one of the best interviewers. You are also patient and don’t interrupt. I enjoy your show.

@SADGOD633

5 ай бұрын

Glazing hard

Beautiful discussion, remarkably professional , thank you for this informative piece!

Bravo on the discussion , i ve watched dozens of interviews but this is the best informative dialogue ive heard so far. Thank you for being intelligent pacifists

@arimoff

6 ай бұрын

There will never be peace as long as muslim jew hate exists. Islamonazi ideology is part of islam and exists before Israel. Save us the bs

@P8052090

6 ай бұрын

This is not a discussion. This is monologue. Who is on the other side so much to say

@gilgamesh2832

6 ай бұрын

Informative drivel. This is as useful as a UN resolution. Radical islamists do not deliberate over intellectual masturbation. They know force, violence, and their goal is a global caliphate. This can not be reasoned with discussions and dialogues.

@teddy2k721

6 ай бұрын

@@P8052090that’s what a podcast is supposed to be

@joshuabradshaw5757

6 ай бұрын

​@@P8052090 the other side, you mean warmongers?

"Anybody can become angry - that is easy, but to be angry with the right person and to the right degree and at the right time and for the right purpose and in the right way - that is not within everybody's power and is not easy."

@Skyrim896

13 күн бұрын

Well said. Truly well said.

Excellent interview Calm, clear and accurate

Thanks for transparency from both I leant from this interview many many information and Dr.John has clear view of what had happened and what shall be happen in futer in term of peace

Norman Finkelstein is the man to listen about this subject. Please invite him, Lex.

@arimoff

6 ай бұрын

Th men to listen about this conflict are imams preaching in mosques. The jew gate there is beyond anything rational. But islamonazis and rationality dont go together

@louissay

6 ай бұрын

Please read: “The Holocaust Industry” - Norman Finkelstein

@clorofilaazul

6 ай бұрын

@@arimoff “islamonazis”? Now that’s a cute word! 😂

@gilgamesh2832

6 ай бұрын

No, Finkle is Einhorn. Also, Finkelstein is brainrotting.

@clorofilaazul

6 ай бұрын

@@gilgamesh2832 you can just go visit Mars and stay there. How about that?

It is amazing to see how people are capable of peace and violence at the same time. Thanks for choosing peace talks and I hope more people will come to understand the necessity and importance of peace.

@rajasmasala

6 ай бұрын

Hamas sought to take a bunch of prisoners a la something that happened in the 2000s which led to them getting back their current PM. Israel responded by carpet bombing their citizens out of existence and this is extremely, extremely clear even in the footage that maniac UN ambassador shared- keep in mind hellfire missiles is not in hamas capability list. Israel was always an ethnofascist project. They character- and physically- assassinated away their leftist capacity by 80s.

@rajasmasala

6 ай бұрын

Not to mention Hamas was the standard Jakarta Method rightwing antagonist - only created by Israel in this case rather than the textbook US template.

@rajasmasala

6 ай бұрын

Sorry tank shelling, was thinking about another incident, though they are currently trying to kill the hostages via carpet bombing. Read up on Hannibal doctrine. If you were an Israeli and not terrified of your own soldiers you are a fascistic puppet.

@rajasmasala

6 ай бұрын

Until you think of Israel as sloppy, trigger-happy version of the most rightwing violent Republicans you are not going to understand what they are doing.

@StopFear

6 ай бұрын

What’s amazing about it? That’s how it was throughout humanity’s existence. People are peaceful closer to their permanent places, and to those more similar to them, and violent toward either distant people or the different looking, sounding people.

Thank you Lex. You always do an excellent and professional job interviewing your guest

Lex has surpassed most other podcasts as a result of this talk.

Very good discussion....feel like i always learn something every time i tune in to Lex

This man speaks alot of sense. Much respect

@mikhacoffman4522

6 ай бұрын

Outside the fact that a two state solution is completely impossible

@MrChuckwagon55

6 ай бұрын

I think the old dude might be smoking crack.

@ktw5141

5 ай бұрын

which he said @@mikhacoffman4522

@bhuvaneshs.k638

5 ай бұрын

He missed many important points convienently

i watched a half hour interview of prof Mearsheimer with piers morgan... comparing the after feeling with watching this one for almost an hour... is like done watching a streetfighting match with done watching a match analysis

Really good interview from both of you guys. Everything you guys get together it's perfect.

As usual Lex - great interview - thanks.

He is candid without fear

An amazingly detailed video on the topic helps a lot with the research I'm doing and clarification on different political stances. Extremely informative& direct

In my eyes. Lex redeemed himself. He is one of the best podcasters out there. I'm going to hear the full podcast again. Thank you lex for having those you don't agree with on. We need more conversations and discourse regarding this issue.

@3palin0

6 ай бұрын

Agreed

@marvinwilliams7938

6 ай бұрын

He silently agrees with almost everything John says

@senorpoodles1755

6 ай бұрын

Redeemed from what?

@thepaperybull2921

6 ай бұрын

Redeemed himself from what exactly? Lex has always been a level headed guy

@Sl33zytheclown

6 ай бұрын

@@marvinwilliams7938 he's a smart man. I knew I wasn't an anti Semite. For my hatred towards Zionism. Which is what bibi NetanYahoos

Is it just me or is lex saying "slither" of hope as in a snake slithering, versus a "sliver of hope" as in like a shard or ray of hope coming through? And he got John to repeat it at one point? That was entertaining, as well as the rest of the podcast.

@mindsigh4

6 ай бұрын

a russ/eng pronunciation thing?

@rm809

6 ай бұрын

100% slither heard

@adrianhutu

6 ай бұрын

im sure you're right. and John shaved his face , lex earlier

@motorxr46

6 ай бұрын

Lex is curious but not as smart as he thinks

@itputslotiononitsskin

6 ай бұрын

Lol, you guys are just hating just because he's exposing how similar you are to Nazis

Truth finally starting to trickle out of where it's been hidden for so long. And "they" are fighting tooth and nail to stop it or distort it. Bravo for the vid

@cragjones1799

23 күн бұрын

Who is "they", specifically?

@gusgus1816

20 күн бұрын

@@cragjones1799 Not my place to teach u about who has been really running the show for a very long time and how they got there. I could list some corporations and some families or "houses", but thats work for YOU to do & find out. Start reading some 📚 They'll tell u who they are.

I’ve learned so much from this interview. Brings new perspective to the whole situation. Thank you Mr. Mearsheimer and Lex.

Thank you Lex for not shying away from controversial topics that get people cancelled and stir up so much commotion whether you take one side or the other, both or none. I appreciate your choice of guest to have a well informed, objective conversation about this complex matter. To his point about some people speculating that Hamas' (and by extension Iran's) motivation for the October 7th attack was to destroy Israel's chance of signing the Abrahamic Accords peace deal with the Arab world and subsequent potential 2 state solution being reached with Palestinians. Yuval Noah Harari, whom you've had on your show not too long ago, stated this claim in interviews I've seen with him recently. I've heard others proposing a secular, democratic, single state solution "from the river to the sea" where both groups coexist (Netanyahu and Hamas would both need to be removed from power since they have extreme, opposing, conflicting agendas that negate the other). Whatever happens, I hope all of the hostages are freed/rescued, and this horrific bombardment and deadly seige of innocent civilians in Gaza ends asap. There needs to be a ceasefire/hostage release before any long term peace deal can be reached. It's going to be a long road to healing and recovery for both Israelis and especially Palestinians since much of Gaza has been completely destroyed. Hoping for an outcome where they can both live freely and safely in their shared homemade.

@mervekirmizi2992

6 ай бұрын

100% agree, the only issue is, Israel has always been unwilling to offer that. They have in most part, prevented 2 states by not allowing true autonomy to Palestinians and has always refused to run as a true democracy, treating everyone within their borders equally. The only true way out, is a one state, TRUE democratic, equal citizenship type of system.. hey can always, assign Palestinian governors to regions like Gaza OR .. allow everyone to just live together peacefully without the borders. I do believe all of this is a result of Israel’s unwillingness and the USA’s unhinged support for their lack of democratic values and their obsession over existing - which at this rate and with Netanyahu is not going in the positive direction but rather the other way round. The biggest threat to Israel are not ‘Arabs’ (aka palestinians) or Hamas, ISRAEL is Israel’s biggest threat - with Netanyahu speed tracking israel at full speed into a wall. I just hope all this craziness stops and Israel finally removes the cloak of victimhood & supremacy that they shroud themselves over. This would honestly make EVERYONE including palestinians and israeli’s live more harmoniously and peacefully… the day their government see’s all inhabitants of the land as equals.

@purplemystique8308

6 ай бұрын

@@mervekirmizi2992 you are living in a dream world my brother. It’s a nice proposal and it’s been presented many many times, but not going to happen because of Israel’s absolute arrogance and self-centeredness. Too many Israelis r brainwashed to think they r special and all others no matter what race, don’t matter

@Faiez-rh1gm

6 ай бұрын

And the same Yuval wants you to eat bugs and make you his slave ala Klaus Schwab

Possibly the best commentary on Israel/Palestine I’ve heard. I’ve listened to a lot of reliable geopolitical analysts in an effort to get to the truth about this conflict & I believe John Mearsheimer explains a very complicated issue in a way that is clear cut & understandable…excellent interview.

@Tymeb0mb

6 ай бұрын

Mostly good but Meirsheimer missed some important points. First, Hamas in 2017 said it was willing to accept a two state solution along the pre-1967 borders. Second, a big reason that Hamas exists is that Israel funded them going all the way back to the 1980s in order to undermine the PLO and get an extremist organization to be the representative of the Palestinians, since it would mean less sympathy.

@tahaelhour690

6 ай бұрын

@@Tymeb0mb the funding went way beyond the 80s, the trucks full of money bags going straight to hamas was much more recent. and natanyahu straight up endorces hamas in his 2019 speech, smoltritch too calls it an asset to deligitimize palestinian resistance.

@dankoKn

6 ай бұрын

The money is from Katar not from Israel

@tahaelhour690

6 ай бұрын

@@dankoKn funneled through katar by israel to hamas.

@Tymeb0mb

6 ай бұрын

@@dankoKn It's directly from Israel. Literally suitcases of money delivered from Israel directly to Hamas.

Hate only starts when one of the two groups does something harmful to the other which is so bad that it is almost impossible to forgive.

Mearshimer said Hamas wants Peace?? He had better recheck his history. Palestinians have rejected over 5 peace offers in the past 50 years.

Glad to see not a snippet but a whole perspective on this issue in clip without worrying about time of the clip. It tells a lot about this channel not being a click bait. You have gained lot of my respect lex!!!

@mad-dog67

6 ай бұрын

Its not complex, its really simple actually. You got a nation thats occupied and opressed for decades and they resist like every nation would do

@Test123saiyan

6 ай бұрын

@@mad-dog67ty for the response but everywhere I see it is being called complex n difficult so being explained as such this my opinion. I hope you don't judge me as my knowledge is very limited on this subject.

@mad-dog67

6 ай бұрын

Im not in a position to judge any one, but I got some knowledge about the topic and Im sure if you read a little bit more about it you will at the end form the same opinion as mine.

@Test123saiyan

6 ай бұрын

@@mad-dog67 is there a link. I hope it is the truth not an opinion of some third party with pieces of truth in it. I just want people to stop dying....for someone else's fault. I hope everyone can have a future rather than being right or wrong.

@mad-dog67

6 ай бұрын

@@Test123saiyan seek after Norman Finkelstein and Abby Martin

Thanks for the video ❤

The war still rages on...and Mearsheimer was right about all of it

I like how he described the world as a bunch of tribes. Who don't really like others when it comes down to it.

American national interest is NOT the same as Israel's! As Americans, we need to know who our representatives are working for! No more lobbies!

@jyc313

Ай бұрын

American national interest is unfortunately intertwined with the national interest of our allies. I agree, there are plenty of problems associated with the lobby institution within US politics. But, that aside - America needs a strong Israel to help maintain balance in the Middle East. And why does US needs a stable Middle East? As you prob know - resources mainly but to maintain our sphere of influence in the region.

I respect and love you for this Lex. This was painful but you do an amazing job of holding to your principles ❤

@korlu01

6 ай бұрын

No clue what you mean by that

@alid3859

6 ай бұрын

Let the world knows the roots of this evil cruelty…..look at the ridiculous Shapiro clown….then u will understand this comment

@Mrchygozman

6 ай бұрын

​@@korlu01impossible to understand the mindset of a Zionist.

@manmohanmehta5697

6 ай бұрын

Lex is a great individual and deserves a lot of respect.John too a deep thinker and deserves respect. Hoping for peace soon.

@TheVeritas2100

6 ай бұрын

Other than WASTE OF TIME, this just showed that the U.S. should stay OUT this conflict ! ( send the MONEY , but do NOT meddle in the Israeli politics or strategy ! ) Lex should stay OUT of POLITICS ! PERIOD! END OF STORY ! Mearsheimer ... no comment ! :-( ( just another professor in the cushy university seat in Chicago - BUT at least he sees the UKR/Russia situation CLEARLY ***the best possible outcome for the Ukraine war is a frozen conflict ! *** )

This guy is fascinating. He knows his stuff.

“They will not go away. We will not go away. We are doomed to live here together. And we have to choose whether to share this land, or to share the graveyard under it.” -an Israeli father of a child murdered by Hamas. While this much-appreciated segment was informative and fair, John Oliver in “Last week tonight” summarized this historically tragic situation interspersed with stories from the people who are actually living through it. You can care about the humanity of both groups at the same time.

@RealJackHQ

5 ай бұрын

Amen 🙏

@dougdawson7375

2 ай бұрын

John Oliver is a slitherer.

Mearsheimer is the voice of reason. He's always a delight to listen to.

@UdiKoomran

6 ай бұрын

He is downright biased and blind -he actually doesn’t understand the complexity of the region - looks at it binary - black- Israel the occupiers White the poor Palestinians

This old man is full of wisdom, a great respect 🫡

Question to the 'expert' John Mearsheimer ... Egypt is blockading Gaza. Does that mean that Egypt is also occupying Gaza in the same way as Israel?

@arifshahabuddin8888

5 ай бұрын

I'll take a shot at answering the question. Although the Rafah border is between Gaza and Egypt, it is partly controlled remotely by Israel. That is, Israel has video surveillance of the border along with control of the gates. Egypt can only open one set of gates. Israel controls the other set of gates. Nothing can get into Gaza from the Rafah border unless Israel allows it. After this war is over, it is likely that Israel will have full control of this border even though it does not currently border Israel proper. As far as the blockade goes, it is pretty much an Israeli production. By the Camp David Accords, Egypt must keep the Sinai peninsula demilitarized. Egypt's primary concern is that if a significant number (if not all) of the Gazans are let into the Sinai, they will never be allowed to return to Gaza. This would not only be a major financial and political headache for Egypt, but it would also cause great turmoil for the Egyptian and Arab populace. As it is, a large part of the Palestinian population would not want to leave Gaza lest they be forced into exile again. It seems that Israel is pretty much destroying everything in Gaza, even its own citizens who are hostages. So, it's a pretty horrific situation.

@Stevef2022

5 ай бұрын

@@arifshahabuddin8888you missed your shot. Israel does not have remote access of the Rafah Gate - it is solely and exclusively controlled by Egypt. Under a pact agreement, Israel has control of the Palestinian population registry, which determines who is allowed to go through Rafah Crossing. Furthermore, Egypt has agreed to provide Israel with details on commercial trade conducted through the gate, but it exclusively within Egypt’s control and sovereignty. The Egyptians don’t give a damn if the Gazans are displaced, so long as they are not displaced into Egypt. The last time Egypt allowed a significant number of Palestinians into the country, there were 40 suicide bombs in a year.

@freshjunkie4392

3 күн бұрын

@@Stevef2022lol yeah egypt controls the gate and Israel controls what goes in and out

'The end result of this conversation is utter despair.', so very true and disheartening.

I love how we learn absolutely nothing. After Afghanistan. After COVID. “The Americans are saying weeks. The Israeli’s are saying months possibly even a year.” In reality, 20 years later…. Come on. We should know their playbook at this point.

@100c0c

6 ай бұрын

Gaza isn't Afghanistan. Not even close

@mikerak6283

5 ай бұрын

@@100c0c Yet the end result will be the exact same...

@100c0c

5 ай бұрын

@@mikerak6283 Gaza is 365 sq km and the city is already being flattened and gutted. The NA toppled the Taliban in 2001 but the occupation was difficult because of the geography. Not the case for a gutted Gaza.

@mikerak6283

5 ай бұрын

@@100c0c They have tunnels. It has also taken them over 2 months. You literally have no idea what you're talking about.

@100c0c

5 ай бұрын

@@mikerak6283 And they're slowly deconstructing the tunnels. It's easier to destroy tunnels than to build them.

Thank you for allowing the truth through

@Bmetalful

6 ай бұрын

It's not truth, for instance 45:15 has been debunked a million times to the point where jewish historians themselves have admitted as much.

@matytas2953

6 ай бұрын

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@ppride1

6 ай бұрын

@@Bmetalful don't try and strawman the entire discussion

Great interview both guys great human with much sense ❤❤❤👋🇭🇹

Great discussion 👍

Amazing lex, thank you

Lex Fridman, where a clip is an hour

Normally Lex Friedman appears astute while thoughtful which is so different than his moderation on this video.

I hqve HUGE respect for Lex Fridman, after this. Takes a lot of courage to risk his career and go against the status quo

What a truthful and great interview. When people don’t cave into bias and favouritism over Israel- people don’t want to shut down the interview right away!

I wish you would have asked if the billions of dollars worth of Natural Gas in Gaza waters and the plan to create the India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor is defining how Isreal executes the war? Also, have you watched the Chris Hedges/Max Blumenthal segment today? If not, please do.

@curmudgeon1933

6 ай бұрын

This may influence the UK foreign policy in the area, as Rishi Sunak's father-in-law recently signed lucrative contracts to develop those Natural Gas fields. I imagine these would be far more profitable if it wasn't necessary to share the proceeds with the Palestinians.

Great insight and sober, rational commentary from Mr. Mearsheimer. Well done.

@abrooks

6 ай бұрын

Nothing that this muppet has said is correct. Essentially every single point is completely off. What an amateur

@CantonBn

6 ай бұрын

I don't see Mearsheimer as rational or informed at all. He ascribes issues with gun control as being blocked by the NRA. In fact the data on Bloomberg and Soros spending on gun control shows they alone outspend NRA 17:1. This lack of knowledge eon his part in terms of lobbying was showcased in his and Walt's book, when they failed to count lobbying spending by US business with self interest in supplying S. Arabia and others with highly advanced highs profit armaments and oil and gas equipment and exploitation contracts.

incredible interview

Why the long face Lex, you didn´t have that face when you interview genocide Netanyahu

This is the best interview on this topic.

@1Deep43VA

6 ай бұрын

I think the interviews with Darryl Cooper are better, but it is good so far in the fact that it’s actually fair and not one sided.

@rai2423

6 ай бұрын

Best at exposing Lex’s own personal bias and naïveté. He seems to not really understand what the occupation is, what they do and have done.

@yassinkhaldoun1573

6 ай бұрын

@@rai2423 enlighten us

@rai2423

6 ай бұрын

@@yassinkhaldoun1573 His personal bias is very clear in the tone of his questioning and his way of framing this so called “conflict” as a conflict of equal players. There has never been any symmetry between the treatment of Israeli civilians and Palestinian civilians anyone with half a brain should be able to recognise that at least. And instead of questioning the lobby and how what the consequences of what they do, he instead focuses on how critique of the lobby could be seen as “antisemitic” while not at all divulging further into how their operations affect free speech and democracy in the US.

This is the first time I have seen Lex avoiding to talk about an issue and skirting around the topic of Israeli lobby. Maybe they got to him as well.

@AbdulRehman-fn4nk

6 ай бұрын

Even the language he uses in his arguments is quite telling, "People have compared the attack on Oct 7th to the holocaust and then also in the OTHER DIRECTION", can not even explicitly say it. Lex you disappointed us. I genuinely believed your charade of "believes in love and understanding". Special interests also got to you.

@haythamabdel-qader6934

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree with that, I saw it and heard it too. His normal curious, insightful questioning was put on a leash. I don't like to say things like they got to him, I honestly dont think that is the case, I think its just about being mindwashed and ignorant of the facts.

@johnsullivan518

6 ай бұрын

He wouldn't have given Mearsheimer a spot on his podcast if that were true.

@pipapo7019

6 ай бұрын

What do you mean by "they got to him as well"?

@MrOreo76

6 ай бұрын

let me guess you're pro Hamas

the internet really needs more content like these.

Amazing episode

Man I have been hoping for this one.

Always refreshing to hear John's take on world issue with his incredible insight. Any topic Mr Mearsheimer is discussing i am there and will watch for how ever many hours it is.. !!

Wow very eye opening Q&A!

Thanks!

An observation. While watching this video the amount of likes decreased, after the 10 minute mark it went from around mid 500 to mid 400.

@augustusarbogast9862

6 ай бұрын

= artificial/bot visibility manipulation. What powers might now want this video spread?

@JadeeCee-ty1he

6 ай бұрын

I liked it because it’s Lex Friedman…as I listened along and how he countered his guest‘s responses and ideas, I I’ve gotten disappointed, so I removed my like 😂

Fantastic discussion

Yes, since 1947, a viable state has never been an option for "those people".

Great job Lex

Arafat wanted a two state solution with no push back on this statement from Lex? Arafat is why they don’t have a state. No push back from Lex on Hamas saying in their charter “the destruction of Israel”. So how can you have a state next to a group that calls for your total destruction? No push back on Lex. Disappointing performance by Lex.

@rickdeckard7470

6 ай бұрын

I feel the same way about LEX.. shameful.. John is an idiot that did not bother read and understand the past events and history. They were offered all their demands when Clinton brokered the peace deal and Arafat walked away. There is no occupation in Gaza since 2005. The rulers of Hamas are Billionaires, yes Israel is responsible for the Palestine well being LOL.. John is just your basic bitch Jew hater LOL.. he thinks you can reason with Hamas.. shows how little he understands the conflict.. Why don't they ever mention what Jordan did to the Palestinians. No one care about 100k's killed in Yemen, only when the jews protect themselves.. they want us to march back into the gas showers without protest. fk them...

@ob1kendobe

6 ай бұрын

I believe he made clear that hamas isn’t flexible at this moment but they could possibly be talked into it if given the right terms

Thank you for presenting this side of the story

TY

Excellent conversation. Thank you lex

@yonimaor1005

6 ай бұрын

A monologue...

The only country in the world that we arent allowed to criticise versus the only religion in the world that we arent allowed to criticise

@Proton47

6 ай бұрын

Criticize all you want but remember who owns America and who is just barking

@ghostpiratelechuck2259

6 ай бұрын

Is this sarcasm? The only reason you hear ANY pushback on criticism of Islam is because the bigotry is so casually embraced across the board.

@alidyab2349

6 ай бұрын

You can critique Islam all you want but be polite and respectful and read about it to have the knowledge to criticize (That goes to anything in life btw)

@NicholasWongCQ

6 ай бұрын

I'm not aware of any fatwa issued for the head of any of the critics of Israel.

@NicholasWongCQ

6 ай бұрын

​@@alidyab2349hard to be polite and respectful when you talk about Muhammad

Everyone should hear this!

I see here are timestamps included :) Great, thanks!

Honestly the best take on this issue I've seen my whole life and Lex Fridman what a interviewer, asks the right question and let them answer in full.

@SincereSentinel

6 ай бұрын

Yeah John is great. His analysis on the Ukraine war is just as great- He's been talking about it for over a decade.

@kevinjames3155

6 ай бұрын

There are others educated people on this issue! Norman finklestein, Gabor mate, Aron mate, Glenn greenwald, Jeffrey Sachs!

@SincereSentinel

6 ай бұрын

@@kevinjames3155 Bingo. Correct. Great other guys/podcasts to dive into.

@avz9126

6 ай бұрын

old testament= first testament, new testament = 2nd testament, quran= final testament " love your enemies" JESUS pls google strategy of tension, benjamin fulford, henry makow, jordan maxwell and scott ritter . Mosssad is behind hamas 100000000%

Is so refreshing to hear someone with a sound mind and knowledge talking about these problems

@lilwater7358

6 ай бұрын

Basically being mostly wrong and repeating false narratives

@khabibnurmagomoodov9287

6 ай бұрын

@@lilwater7358instead of saying its wrong tell us what specifically is wrong

@lilwater7358

6 ай бұрын

@@khabibnurmagomoodov9287 for Example: There is no occupation. There will be now after what happened.

@straylight7116

6 ай бұрын

@@lilwater7358 UN, NGO, most distinguished political scientist all are wrong? Only the occupier and you are right?

@khabibnurmagomoodov9287

6 ай бұрын

@@lilwater7358 gaza has always been occupied this whole time. Just because they pulled out a few thousand settlers doesn’t change the fact that there is a military blockade. Israel controls gaza’s electricity, food, water, internet, travel, medicine, fuel, supplies. All the infrastructure was set up with military and then they pulled out but still controlled the services. Collective punishment for 99.8 percent of the civilians. Israel destroyed the airport and surrounds gaza air land and sea. If you are under 18 in gaza you have already witnessed 5 wars. The only way you can believe gaza wasn’t occupied is if you are severely misinformed or a propagandist

Two-state soultion doesn't work. In order to work, the two states have to be territorially compact to some degree. They have to have access to resources independently, borders should not go through large cities and split the communities, there shouldn't be large enclaves like Gaza, etc...

Two gentlemen searching for the truth will soon find the truth because they are honest and sincere

Surprising that someone with John Mearsheimer's expertise really believes that Arafat ever wanted a two-state solution. Nothing was further from the truth. He was offered a two-state solution, return to 1967 borders, right of return for Palestinians by two different Israeli prime ministers. Every time Arafat got what the PLO had been asking for, he just kept moving the goal post. Similarly, Hamas' mission statement is not to secure a Palestinian state, it is to annihilate Israel.

@NicholasWongCQ

6 ай бұрын

​@@neerajtrar You don't understand what the word "ever" means, do you?

@truthalone3402

6 ай бұрын

Two state was impossible with settler expansion occurring during the whole process.. that was Israels way of sabotaging it.

@haythamabdel-qader6934

6 ай бұрын

Lies, there was never a right of return afforded to the refugees displaced on 1948 nor 1967, Israel's also imposed its own vision on how that transition would look like and over what span of time it was to take place, amongst other stipulations that was non-negotiable and made the deal inherently sour. Please spare us the Hasbara.

@EranHaifer

13 күн бұрын

This ‘expert’ is literally a Bernie sanders advocate. Gives you an idea about where he lands in terms of ideology. Hardly a balanced interpretation. The moment anyone mentions Norman finklestein their credibility is instantly gone and you know you’re dealing with a ideologue/crackpot

Dr. Mearsheimer is like a wise, old wizard who thinks very clearly. Even though he is older and the world around him changes very fast, his ideas stay the same, just like a strong tree that doesn't move in the wind. This shows that his ideas are really good and true, like a magic spell that always works!

Hamas is opposed to a "two state" solution and so is the current Israeli government so how do we get there now?

What a brave man.

Listening to this guy made me realize I know next to nothing about this conflict.

@arturolopezdenava

6 ай бұрын

As almost everyone commenting on it, who are not historians. Especially activists, who know next to nothing about anything and yet, they go out and inflame situations…

@Tamireum

6 ай бұрын

You're right because he makes no sense

@abrooks

6 ай бұрын

This guy has absolutely no idea about the conflict. Israel does not want to control the Palestinians. All they want is for the Palestinians not to start building a war army in order to annihilate itZ not too complicated

@SDRDS96169

6 ай бұрын

Indeed, the old fella sounds just like a 16 years old Cambridge student shouting "from the river to the sea" .. basically they know nothing, meaning less than I do and that's not difficult

@muhammadyusuf-mx5lb

6 ай бұрын

Keep coping people ...keep coping it .

37:07 Powerful words whenever critics are silenced by others in power.

Mearsheimer is brilliant and hasn't been wrong yet.

Mowing the lawn. Will never look at my lawnmower ever again the same way 😅

Excellent analysis. Gratitude

No mention of the religious fundamentalism when talking about what Hamas actually wants out of this conflict? I can't understand why anyone would think that Hamas can live peacefully with any 'state' solution when they are pursuing a religious scripture against the Jews. Im no expert but to not mention that one side is motivated by God and the other is just trying to exist is a major oversight.

@Eneres33

6 ай бұрын

Are you seriously that delusional? Or have you not been seeing the extremist Zionist leaders in Israel supporting the annihilation of all Palestinians - including the West Bank -where no Hamas exists ?! Or have you not seen Netanyahu on TV a week ago talking about Amalek rhetoric, where he said “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass” - using this as an excuse to smite and kill all Palestinians. How’s that for religious fundamentalism?!! So how on earth are you even saying “one side just wants to exist” when all they have been doing in past 75+ years is kill. Their idea of a “democratic” state is a complete falsehood because it’s based on being an ethnostate. I can’t believe with all the evidence and yet ppl, like you unfortunately, still want to find an excuse or justification.

@georglehner407

6 ай бұрын

It seems like a serious oversight of John Mearsheimer and I don't get how he doesn't see it. They literally have it in their declaration: 'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam wil obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' They're an extremist group who do not want any negotiation. They don't operate on the same principles as most of the west does.

@oussama123654789

6 ай бұрын

Yeah yeah right , israel isnt trying to take over more land and kicking palestinians out sure

@AWB777

6 ай бұрын

Are you willing to concede that the Netanyahu crowd are also messianic and are influenced by their interpretation of Judaic scripture. It's even more acute than the fundamentalism of Hamas!!

@DC-co3gf

6 ай бұрын

@@AWB777 yes of course. Neither ideology is healthy IMO. But just wondering if they were equivalent in motive and intent.

19:19 we are joined at the hip because of Hayme Solomon standing by us on General George, Washington. Needed him

Lex is a great channel. Great coverage of topics. Especially the physics videos. But we want more guests from the UK please!

Mearsheimer has said something like the following: In 1781, the United States was 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard. By 1850, after the Louisiana Purchase, the Mexican-American War and the gold rush, we spread across the continent to the Pacific Ocean. By 1900, after the Spanish American War, we were the unparalleled regional hegemon of the Western Hemisphere. By 1945, as the other world powers smoldered under rubble, we stood atop the world as the great superpower. What an amazing rise.

@sniderstyle

6 ай бұрын

What a success story

@johnsullivan518

6 ай бұрын

You mean he told a brief history of the US? What a sin.

@terrymckenzie8786

6 ай бұрын

Look at it fall now since the 70,s. It is a speck of what it use to be.

@chrisocony

6 ай бұрын

@@terrymckenzie8786 Still on top, though. Japan was going to surpass us, then the EU, but it didn't happen. P.S. Do I know you? (DPW.)

@doityourownway

6 ай бұрын

The Golden Age of America From 1945-. The world is shifting fast now. We might witness the amazing fall.

When the clip is an hour long

first time seeing a "clip" that is almost an hour long..., only in Lex's channel

He voices a powerful argument; on a topic that evokes emotion on all sides. I learned something through this clip