Russell managed to thoroughly misunderstand Dewey's conception of inquiry.

@subjectt.change6599

4 жыл бұрын

Russell believed that Dewean Inquiry undermined realism in resting truth claims upon experimental results rather than a priori reasoning. This is simply not the case. Dewey never denied that truth exists apart from our knowledge of it, simply that there is no point in asserting a truth prior to inquiry. An a priori assertion of truth may be valid prior to inquiry, but it is not warranted. (To the “neo-pragmatists” typing fiercely; DEWEY WAS NEVER A SKEPTIC ABOUT WARRANT!)

@johnjepsen4243

2 жыл бұрын

So what else is new?

I got completely lost in the middle. This leads me to think that I am not quick witted enough to be a philosopher. Nevertheless, I am happy (at the time of writing). Therefore, one doesn't need to be a philosopher, in order to be happy.

@phillipwatsonx

2 жыл бұрын

The fundamentals of philosophy are the fundamentals of life. You are indeed a philosopher.

@tedgrant2

2 жыл бұрын

@@phillipwatsonx Thanks Philip. My happiness has gone up a notch.

Lord. Russell really mutilated Dewey's idea of inquiry. To answer whether "Ceasar crossed the rubicon." is true, is to ask in what context is this proposition asserted, and how would it benefit if it were true within a historical scheme? If it helps us explain how certain events occurred, then that is our best account explaining these events and therefore "true", but it doesn't mean that such a proposition is absolutely true. If evidence supporting the idea that "Ceasar crossed the rubicon" is false, then we adapt to the new information. This is a much better formulation to explain scientific progress. I really love Russell, but he seams to ignore, through Aristotle and Newton, that some of our scientific propositions have been rendered obsolete time and time again...

you might enjoy the Dewey Doo Wap" song just posted on You Tube, with Dewey quotes

"Inquiry is distinguished by its purpose" -- target, goal, teleology (truth). Objective truth is the same and equal for all observers -- Objective democracy. Science wins through consensus: Consensus = mutual agreement or objective democracy. Absolute truth is dual to objective democracy -- Teleology. Teleological physics is dual to non-teleological physics!

Truth is dual to falsity. Hume's fork: Absolute truth is dual to relative truth. Certainty (mind, rational) is dual to uncertainty (matter, empirical) -- Heisenberg, Kant, Descartes. Syntropy (prediction, mind) is dual to increasing entropy (matter, atoms) -- the 4th law of thermodynamics. Deductive inference is dual to inductive inference -- prediction, expectation is dual. Syntropy is the "association of ideas" to synthesize optimized predictions. "The association of ideas" -- David Hume.

Dewey was a humanist and a pragmatist who believed that truth is what works. If the lie works therefore the lie is truth. Such is the absurd ideas of this man's philosophy. I consider John Dewey's ideas as very dangerous and one of the primary reasons for the failure of the public school system where the graduating students can not exercise independent thought, a basic knowledge of history, economics or the basis of the American system as developed by our founding fathers. His influence upon modern education is without question but it is a bad influence and goes against the Biblical view of man, sin, redemption and the very basis for good and evil which is to be found in God's grace and not the "Great Society." Let me explain. Dewey was a socialist who made such idiotic statements as these: "The state can do no wrong, for right is determined by what the state does." Contrast this fallacious thinking where Dewey as a good Hegelian ascribes divine attributes to the state. Hear the truth of the matter: Let God be true and every man a liar. God can do no wrong, for right is determined by what God says and does. Dewey believed in "stimulus response" psychology where man is seen as an animal rather than a sinful creature under God and subject to Divine laws and commandments. Man will never attain freedom under the system John Dewey sought to create but only in terms of finding liberty in Jesus Christ who said "If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed." John 8:36

@Human_Evolution-

6 жыл бұрын

LAStreetPreacher you may be taking Dewey a bit too extreme. We are all pragmatists.

@DeadEndFrog

3 жыл бұрын

I dobut dewey mean't that statement as a good thing however.. However asserting truth or saying its whatever works seem both to lead to terrible outcomes. The bible lead to many terrible things, and all one ever adocates for is either 'god' or its substitution 'state'.

@terryrmoore1

2 жыл бұрын

Drop the superstitions of God and Jesus and see if you can re-frame a sensible argument.

@LAStreetPreacher

2 жыл бұрын

@@terryrmoore1 There is nothing more sensible than when sense ceases to reason above that which is sensible.

@sergiosatelite467

Жыл бұрын

Can you please provide your source of that Dewey quote which he never uttered? I’m always puzzled by how much believers are willing to straight up lie in their defense of “truth.”