JOHN DEERE 5012 DIESEL 2-STROKE V12
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Saw this John Deere 5012 at a recent tractor pull, it's got the massive Detroit 12v-71 two stroke diesel in it, which has a displacement of 71ci per cylinder translating to 14.0L (852ci). The beast cranks out 450hp!
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We built that tractor nearly 20 years ago in NY. It went to Minnesota for a few years and ended up in New Jersey.We are halfway done with Version 2 which is a 6030 with a V-12. It will be 1000 hp !!!
Those ol' Detroits will pull all day without breaking a sweat. Gotta love em!
Always makes me feel good to hear when I bring back memories. That helps me know you guys enjoy the videos
Growing up in the late 50's, when they were building interstate 75 near Cincinnati Ohio. The big two engine Euclid pans would remove rock and soil from the hills all night. The sounds of those Detroit two strokes screaming into the night would just put you to sleep. I miss those days , when things were simple and true.
@jlo13800
5 жыл бұрын
that 12v71 can give you sunburn, its a pulsed plasma 2 stroke so be careful.
@deborahchesser7375
4 жыл бұрын
Robert Davis I remember seeing all the equipment when they were building I-75 clear down to Rt25, before that it took us 10 hours to get to SE Ky on 23, what a ride that was.
@andrewking9761
4 жыл бұрын
So did these come with a V12 from the factory ? I know they came with a 6-71.
@scottydog62
2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewking9761 Never did they have Detroits
@jamieteal2107
Жыл бұрын
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I used to work for General Electric Company. We used 12V71T twin turbocharged 600 hp Detroit Diesels as a STARTER MOTOR to crank over the MS 5000 series gas turbine generator sets. You would select Start, the diesel would fire up, idle for about 15 seconds then go to wide open throttle for 5 minutes. A Twin Disc torque converter and a jaw clutch cranked the turbine to 20% speed with that Detroit screaming its guts out, then the turbine would light off and outrun the diesel and go to 100% speed of 5100 rpm. The Detroit Diesel would idle for a few minutes of cool down time then shut off until needed again. Look up Pissed Off Pete for a 12-71 Detroit Diesel in a Rat Rod... Yeah, I love these Detroits.
@rbagel55
9 жыл бұрын
kimmer6 Yeah I heard they quit making them because they couldn't pass the new emission standards. I often questioned that. I drove a HEMTT with a 8V92 when I was in the Army back in 85-89, It didn't smoke or pollute much
@AugustusTitus
9 жыл бұрын
kimmer6 Hushpuppy! that MS5000 is HUGE!!!
@kimmer6
9 жыл бұрын
LimitedOptionsMan The MS 9000 series made the 5000's look like a toy. I have a Detroit 3-53 diesel off a small barge that I'm going to make into a trailer mounted Margarita machine...
@AugustusTitus
9 жыл бұрын
I take it you buy your ice by the berg and tequila by the railcar?
@daveharris1002
7 жыл бұрын
Inspector general Danny Kaye
Holy smoke,,,,! ! ! oh my gosh that's the baddest tractor iv seen,,in a long time
That's one cool tractor, believe it or not this engine is only 14 liters, and puts out 450-500hp. Which was insane for a diesel engine designed in the late 50's
And I thought the 8V71's made an awesome show. Lovely tune it plays.
There are engines as big as a house but that's pretty impressive in a tractor,love the 2 stroke sound
I love that 2 stroke diesel sound!
They really have a unique sound!
Glad you liked it mate. They definitely have a distinct sound, once you know what one sounds like you can't mass it!
The first truck that I drove was an I-H 4070 c.o.e. with an 8V-71 318 h.p. The old WABCO 353ft twin engine self loading paddle scraper had twin turboed 12V-71T's I believe, for a total of 1050 h.p.
I wasn't quite sure of the difference but I just looked it up. Thanks for prompting me to educate myself!
Good to see there's no smoke even though it's not a real Deere engine. Good work
My Dad is in to those Detroit Diesel engines. He has two of the V8-71's and they are the same size as the 12 cylinder just 4 cylinders shorter. Very good engines. A lot of people use them in Shrimp boats down here.
That is crazy! They sure sound like they are turning more like 10,000 rpm. Torque is unbelievable
Impressive! Gotta love a big iron horse!!!
Thanks for checking it out hope you enjoyed
That thing drug that skid like it wasn't even back there,,,that's one bad tractor there my friend
Engine wasnt "turned up" too much. No huge clouds of black smoke rolling from the stacks when he pulled. Just a naturally powerful engine. Detroits got bad reps because of the leaks, but the main reason for the leaks was idling. They were realiable engines, cost less to rebuild than Cat or Cummins, and the US military used a lot of them; M113 family of apc, tracked artillery, HEMTT tank haulers, even some Sherman tanks in later days of WW2. Cant forget the M561 GAMMMA Goat. They also weighed less than the Cat and Cummins engines allowing for more payload. Never disrespect the old 2 stroke "Screamin' Jimmy", might incur the wrath of one of us "old farts" who drove them and loved them. They also seemed less prone to gelling in cold weather. Our shop guys would go out and start all the fleet in extreme cold, rev them up and set the throttle, and you could hear as the other engines would start shutting down; Cats firts, then Cummins, then Macks, the Jimmies just kept going. If i rmemember correctly, stock hp of a 12v71, non turbo, was 434 hp. All the old engines were meant to be wound higher than todays engines, thats why the old trucks had 4.11 or 4.33 gears ususally.
@jlo13800
5 жыл бұрын
dont let me fill this 2 stroke with xd100 and feed total loss, i know how to do this, there is walmart high load oil formoula.
@edmundsmith7199
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of naturally aspirated 475 hp 12v71’s back in the day. Turn em to 2500 rpm and they would pull. Heavy though, 3200-3300 lbs as I recall. Heavier than a 1693 Cat, which is why there weren’t a lot of them out there.
@toddgittins5692
Жыл бұрын
Ask any military mechanic, they're junk.
@Asmith-1111
Жыл бұрын
@@toddgittins5692don't know what you thought you were going to get outta this reply section, this guy made this comment 7 years ago.
@toddgittins5692
Жыл бұрын
@@Asmith-1111 yeah, you're right. A Detroit engine probably blew apart and a piston impaled him. What was I thinking?
Sure is, I knew I had to get a video of it. Thanks my friend!
Really good sound capture!
Because V12s require no big crankshaft counterweights they hot up really well and still stay reliable. Most 2 strokes respond just by opening the governor a bit. They respond so well because at certain RPMs they make about 1HP per RPM, so an increase in 100RPM may yield a 100HP increase. I use the word MAY. Most 71s and 92s enjoy being held against the governor at 2100RPM when in revenue service :)
I know the farmer who owns this tractor, in fact I've seen it and several others in his barn. He's from central New Jersey, Bordentown area. Loves his Detroit Diesel engines.
A Buzzin' Dozen! I like how the owner painted it JD green and yellow.
That thing is awesome!
Let er scream! I love these old Detroits
Yeah it looks pretty darn good!
Now that's something special look it out clean it burns. Not throwing a ton of fuel out the stacks is efficiency and well-tuned.
It's still coming along, slowly but surely. I'll definitely be doing an update video next for you guys!
They where flatlander engines in Trucks ran many 318 or 8v92. Flatland screaming down the blacktop hit a hill constant down shifting.
Wish I could have heard it in person!
Yeah it was burning mighty clean!
You guys are cool man y'all did a good job on this video
You're makin' Carter a friggin KZread Star!! That's the engine in most buses, I'm sure you recognized the sound eh!!☺
It sure didn't! I'm pretty sure he stopped because he ran out of room. Thanks for watching!
Yes it is...one huge engine!
It is pretty insane!!
The tractor didn't even know there was a load.
@SquillyMon
7 жыл бұрын
LOL....NO...IT DID NOT!
@jlo13800
4 жыл бұрын
Lightning and the the sun are 2 stroke
@jlo13800
3 жыл бұрын
them 2 strokes are funny with a chug on every stroke there is no problem with load. the big cr500 just chugs along at low rpm while the damn 4 joke cr450f has to reve 13k rpm to get the job done!
surprized to see how little smoke it puts out too
Nothing beats a detroit!
I absolutely Love the sound of a Detroit 2 stroke. I re-watched from 2:21 on over & over Great vid buddy
I'll say. Those things are unstoppable.
I read something about the 71 series and I think it said that as they get bigger they do just add more cylinders, the v24 might be 4 v8 blocks put together if I remember correctly.
comes with a blower from the factory around 435 hp the 12v71s were put in semis back in the day that was like the highest horsepower truck engine
He pulled 'er right home!
You got it right!
Powerful, efficient, reliable, easy to repair and service, rugged, easy starting in any weather and temperature, low particulate emissions (even tho the eco-beaureaucrats in Washington disagree!) cool operation, complete removal of burned gases through blower-valve-uniflow scavenging (The Clark Cycle) instead of 'choking" on it's own spent gases like all 4 stroke diesels are renowned for, and a power impulse EVERY revolution for ALL cylinders--so 12 per revolution--that's a Detroit! The best!
Yeah they are pretty scary when they are running, always seem like they are going to blow. I've probably heard them on the road before but never paid much attention to them. I'm definitely going to have my eyes and ears out now!!
Looks like a powerful machine. Anyway gave you a thumbs up.
@motoforlyfe
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thumbs up!
@bluesharp59
4 жыл бұрын
@@motoforlyfe You are welcome also.
He could have taken that sled home with him!!!
@ahoorakia
3 жыл бұрын
that was the plan, but they stopped him! LOL
Pretty neat. I am sure he takes it all over
They sure do man. Thanks for the comment.
Yeah buddyI It's a glam tractor!
best engines in the world. almost all of our tugboat have them in it
music to my ears
just mindblowing!
I wouldn't mind being the guy who sits in the back of the tractor puller all day!
Truly a " buzzin dozen "
Man that sounds good
I think they are real cool!
Right..amazing
AH the ol Buzzin Dozen, the only threat I ever had to my 3408, CAT.
Those 2 strokes disels pump out the power
Yeah buddy! Two stroke diesel, look it up..they are pretty cool
Over 500hp with 70 injectors on the A setting
tengo años de experiencia en motores GM DDA ,Cummins y CAT Los GM, y el Cat 3406 son mis favoritos son fierros sin dramas
Is this in NJ? I think this is where we go. I’ll have to pay attention to see if it’s there. Love those old Detroit diesels!!
Saw this tractor in Sharon Springs,NY in the late 1990s
Glad to have somebody with some knowledge on the models. Is it still a 5012 with the straight 6 in it or is the model changed when they added the different engine?
That sounded healthy
Beast!!!!
Since the horsepower was higher than I thought the toque could be lower than I expected. I think it may be over 1000 ft lbs though
Yeah you are right...it has lots of left over power
The harder you run it the better they go!!!
Yes Burlington County Fairgrounds
Almost certainly would have to have an upgraded transmission and rear end in order to with stand that much power
2:25 STAND ON IT !!!
It's funny how your camera didn't pick up on how fast the wheels were spinning.......just made it look like it just walked or vibrated down the track, haha.
71 series Detroits typically make max horsepower at about 2100 rpm. 450 hp at 2100 rpm would be 1125 ft-lbs of torque, and that's not even the torque peak. Peak torque is probably around 1400 ft-lbs at 1400 rpm.
Sled, what sled? There was a sled behind that tractor? LOL, Damn!
How much torque it devolops?
Might have been there somewhere!
He must like those fumes!
Torque on a 12-71 is about 1290lb.ft @ 1400 RPM while Horse for a non-turboed 12v-71N 476 hp, @ 2100 rpm
@whorayful
7 жыл бұрын
They can be opened up a bit on RPM, 2300 rpm is a common rating, short times at 2500 rpm won't hurt them, 2100 rpm is peak power rpm.
@DaleHeil-ju2qq
6 жыл бұрын
1250 torque Isn't a torque monster
i have a video called tug Miseford stack its a video of one tug i work on that has a detroit diesel quad 71 pack, its 4 6-71's mounted to one gearbox. its just a quick video of the stack while she is reving. havent got around to take a new video yet.
@patreed2921
5 жыл бұрын
cooey84 I was in us army trans Corp there were some of the quad, tri and double setups in LCU and other landing craft left over from WW2 and Korea. couple of BARCS . Barges with 4 big rubber tires and Detroit generator on each wheel. Supposed to go anywhere, got tossed around like a cork
Emissions weren't the only problem with the 2 cycle Detroits they were also a holy fright on fuel
@owenlewis8006
7 жыл бұрын
Fuel economy was why Detroits never took off in the U.K. Fuel is expensive here anyway, but when Bedford (the uk truck division of GM) launched the TM in the 70s, operators who tried them couldn't get rid of them fast enough. 5 mpg average was no good to anyone, that was way under what you could get from a Cummins/Gardner/rolls Royce
I'm assuming he made a full pull
Indeed..they really sound like they are screaming
Believe it or not. I got married on that tractor
Yeah I don't know how big of a difference it makes. In any case we know this is a powerful engine eh!!
U.S. They are big engine my sea scout ship. It a torpedo retriever With two v12 with twin supercharger on each engine and yes they are powerful.
@motoforlyfe
8 жыл бұрын
+old smokey Pretty amazing that the engine they put on this tractor could power a whole ship!
@mattgrooms3298
8 жыл бұрын
All the 12 cylinder Detroits had duel blowers
@Rollingcoalsmaxs07
8 жыл бұрын
i mean dual blowers i love the ship i was a engine officer i spent more time in the engine room taking care or the twin v12 Detroit
@beargibson3100
8 жыл бұрын
+old smokey I I bet a pair of them sounded wicked. Several years ago I worked in a diesel shop that specialized in detroits. I built heads, blowers, and water pumps. Our shop built a 12v-71 that was twin turbo and man was is awesome. But I love see un aware people around a 3-53 when the throttle is cracked open on them.
@Rollingcoalsmaxs07
8 жыл бұрын
yup i love being in the engine room when they are running
12v71 Detroit. Should put jakes on it, just for the sound.
How bout a BIG tractor with a HUGE Engine!!!!
the real question is how much torque?
Detroit makes a mean engine
Very Good!!!!!!!
Pretty interesting would like to hear a tugboat with one in it
@jmyers9853
5 жыл бұрын
there are plenty of them out on the water still
Ya john deere real Power