When the advertisements came, I thought those were part of the documentary. Coming here after completing "Ways of seeing" !

That the ad break has been left in place acts as perfect time capsule of the UK in 1985, wonderfully complementing the theme of the documentary itself!

one of the most underated teachers of modern times

I always watch this when I can't get no sleep. It gives me hope somehow. Thank you.

Berger was, and his thinking still is, just so excellent. Thank you for posting this.

i miss this kind of television

Berger is one of my idols.

@coreycox2345

6 жыл бұрын

I just watched his series from the 70's "Ways of Seeing." He is very likeable, Stephen Persing. Assuming that he wrote it, he has an original way of thinking and engaging writing skills.

@kristianj.8798

4 жыл бұрын

@@coreycox2345 "Assuming that he wrote it" - well, he wrote the book...

@coreycox2345

4 жыл бұрын

@@kristianj.8798 I was naive when I made that comment. After that, I read several of his books. He was a brilliant and original writer.

Thanks for sharing this. And I love that you left the old ad breaks in!

I love the adverts.... how amazingly suitable ^^

So Beautiful! Just saw Mr Berger in person last night at Centre Pompidou here in Paris at the last night of the Cinema Real Series of the contemporary documentary.

@MargaretHillsdeZ

3 жыл бұрын

I saw him speak in Torino several years ago. He was wonderful!

@LS-lp6ui

3 жыл бұрын

@@MargaretHillsdeZ Yes. Great loss. I thought he would go on and on and on. I watched this again and it still seems so carefully made.

John is a genius.

Berger's moral vision, skill at writing, and genuine humanism make him one of the twentieth century's great figures

thanks for putting this up. Loved every minute of it, as well as the retro 80s quality

@sophiejubeh2059

2 жыл бұрын

even the adverts are a conception of time in themselves

Death is ruthless. I love John Berger, btw.

This visual essay on time is amazing!

Excellent! Thanks for uploading this.

Thank you for making this available Gerry

Beautiful and inspiring documentary.

Thank you so much for uploading.

'The wise lament neither for the living nor for the dead.'

Thank you, I have returned here today, once again. for Berger on Time.

Many thanks for this jewel.

Thank you for this. 🌿💜✨

I love u John forever&forever

He is a deep thinker. A class of philosopher who does running commentaries instead of using mathematical axioms and logical proof writing, But, far more convincing than the Vienna Circle Logical Atomists.

LAMOT a taste beyond time...how apt.

Does anyone remember that used to be on KZread where Berger says “we must lie... to believe in a world that doesn’t exist”

@agimasoschandir

3 жыл бұрын

“A photograph is not necessarily a lie, but it isn’t the truth either. It’s more like a fleeting, subjective impression.” ― John Berger, Understanding a Photograph Closest quote I found

You'll be sadly missed, John Berger.

Thank you John.

Thank you !

I love the ad break so much

@p-ond

7 ай бұрын

and that's not because I love consumerism it's because they're all 20 seconds and most of them are advertising events! Like real, physical, social events. 2023's TV ads barely ever advertise events and festivals like that. I just wish there were more of an archive of TV ads because I think they're one of the most telling representations of an era's zeitgeist and its culture. brb I'm gonna go watch channel 4 online cause I'm committed to this KZread comment now

The ads are a treat

The music transitions are a very bold and unique choice... Tickled my ears

J.B. A PERFECT ARTISTIC SPECIMENT....

thank you.

If he's still alive he is 90 in November.

@fvelasqu

8 жыл бұрын

he is :)

@SyedShoaibMahmood

7 жыл бұрын

Not anymore :(

@canturgan

7 жыл бұрын

Syed Shoaib At least he reached 90. RIP

@kamilla1960

7 жыл бұрын

He is a gift to humanity.

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Does anyone know if the adverts were intentionally part of the programme or did that just happen to be the selection between the parts when it was screened?

with the death of those significant (for some of us!) people, our world is dying. We are approaching our end as well.

@kamilla1960

7 жыл бұрын

The dead are always with us--he said so many times !

@lovelife7902

7 жыл бұрын

Ronald Young our world is not dying, we jus need to wake up, to the light within ourselves. There's never endings jus new beginnings. Humanity will be fine. Much LOVE 💙

@chinthavishttan2265

6 жыл бұрын

This wonderful sage opened my eyes 9 years ago - his Ways of Seeing was, to me, not about art. It was a clarion call to stop and take a look at the numbing prison of exploitation that today's society is. I am no longer in denial of my active responsibility, thanks to those insights... I so wanted to meet him some time and embrace him in gratitude. But he died, they say... They just don't know that John still lives, as clear as Clarity itself - in the opened eyes, hearts and integral actions of the many, like me.

@DarkAngelEU

6 жыл бұрын

You might be but I'm getting towards my prime :)

@aperson6437

3 жыл бұрын

It's been 4 yrs fam should we start arranging the funeral?

what is the man singing at 47:20?

Does anyone know the origin of the opening story? He only says that it was first told in Verona "many centuries ago".

@agimasoschandir

3 жыл бұрын

ATU (Aarne-Thompson-Uther Index) 332

Also does anyone know where I can find any information on the original of the story told in the introduction?

@kyleo7657

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure about the original Italian version Berger refers to, but the old Irish legend of Oisin in Tir Na nOg plays out Very similarly

@agimasoschandir

3 жыл бұрын

ATU (Aarne-Thompson-Uther Index) 332

Any ideas on the author of the first story? He said it was told in Verona... thanks

@gerald345

4 жыл бұрын

"Italian Folktales“ by Italo Calvino, "The Land Where One Never Dies” (Verona) lets-talk-story.tumblr.com/post/49418722478/the-land-where-one-never-dies

@alexcostetti9369

4 жыл бұрын

@@gerald345 thanks :)

@jimnewcombe7584

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexcostetti9369 I can't see the message you responded with gratitude to, although I know there are variations to the tale. The ancient Celtic tale of Niamh and Oisin is very similar. In fact I'm now wondering if it was me who responded the first time from a now deleted account! Haha!

gerger's voiceso near to jeremy iron's voice

Does anyone else know of any other tv films or the likes from JB? I've heard there are others

@sezenyasar1611

4 жыл бұрын

Do you found it?

@agimasoschandir

3 жыл бұрын

Other then "Ways of Seeing"? Have you tried to do a search?

@TomRaine

3 жыл бұрын

@@agimasoschandir yes. ‘About time’ is superb. Others very difficult to find.

@agimasoschandir

3 жыл бұрын

@@TomRaine Doing a search just now I see some other programs and interviews, but it does seem his narrative TV series are not readily available on the web as you said. Imdb lists them

I hope he is still living

@kamilla1960

7 жыл бұрын

He is, in spirit now.

@aperson6437

3 жыл бұрын

Idk..word says he still out there somewhere. God willing on his way to Vienna 😂😂😂

Does anyone know the reference of the opening story? Couldn't pick up the ID of the story teller. Thanks!

@11Kralle

7 жыл бұрын

It appears to be himself to tell the story - as a novellist and writer Berger obviously knows much about history, so placing a story in Italy referres either to Shakespeare and the early modern traditions or its predecessor, the italian renaissance with the vernacular writings of Petrarca, Boccachio or Dante.

@SimoneXYang

7 жыл бұрын

11Kralle Very well. Thank You

@11Kralle

7 жыл бұрын

Simone X. Yang You're welcome.

@JohnSmith-jd4qm

7 жыл бұрын

This might just be a coincidence, but I noticed the story has a lot in common with the Irish legend of Oisín and Tír na nÓg.

@njmccormackgmail

5 жыл бұрын

It is a retelling of the much more ancient Tir na n-Og.

The land of the young, Tir Na nOg

@agimasoschandir

3 жыл бұрын

Irish. Many cultures have tales of "blessed" or undying lands

Brilliant how John Berger merged into Derek Walcott!

I feel cursed but cleansed Nd purified at the same time yo it's weird 🤔

Tl;dr Time travel hella OP devs needa patch that shit ;_;

[35:11] The story of god and the farmer

Great upload! We're presenting the film for John Berger Thursday at SeminalCinemaOutfit.com Keep up the good work!

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Is the desire for immortality anything other than fear of death? If fear was not the motive, what would be a reason to seek immortality? I think that the fear of dying is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated upon humanity. And, if I may add my two cents, I believe that Christ's essential message was that there is no reason to fear death. And once you grasp that, death, as we imagine it, no longer exists. This is what's meant by eternal life. I'm not some evangelical type. I don't mean to proselytize or convert. But what could be more wonderful than to live without fear?

@agimasoschandir

3 жыл бұрын

The desire at least to live healthy for a little longer is to fulfill curiosity. Not fearing death is not unique to Christian myths. As for as hoax's go, those that perpetuate the ancient Middle Eastern myths as reality would fall into that category. As a person who is interested in folklore, this is not to say they are any less beguiling then other folk tales, "sacred" or not

We need a Lamot anime

Thank you!