Having played tuba for this ballet, it is probably the most fun yet challenging pieces I have yet to play. Stravinsky really pushed the players (and performers) to their limit

@vincentd.1424

4 жыл бұрын

TheBrassHole my grandfather played tuba too for this ballet.

The choreography and music are a hundred years old, but we haven't progressed past this yet. Simply stunning...

@user-ol1ib1ss2b

Жыл бұрын

I KNOW RIGHT?

@ingemayodon5128

3 ай бұрын

Vs avez tte à fait raison. À date, en ce qui me concerne, cette chorégraphie n'a pas été dépassée. Et ne le sera probablement jamais. Une simple merveille. Salutations de Montréal, Qc, Canada

I saw it 1989 in San Francisco. It was electrifying. In the circle dance at the end I'll never forget how the dancers landed in time with the music, their feet hitting the stage, amplifying the drums.

@fatovamingus

5 жыл бұрын

SO WEIRD.. I just got the program from 89 San Francisco! The Joffrey is still perfectly in tune and synched. Years of changing people but it is still owned by them.

@Aaron-hq4bu

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds inspiring. Thanks for the commentary.

One article I read quoted a performer from the original Ballet Russos said that being a dancer for this piece was physically painful because the dances jarred every organ. I can see why . . .

The look of that poor girl in the center during the "Glorification of the chosen one" part... She looks so lonely and terrified.. And then her friends doing a mean girls/sucks to be you dance around her... She's probably thinking: I just wanna get married and have kids. I don't wanna die... 😞😞

@fatovamingus

6 жыл бұрын

kimsteel366 it's a sacrifice that they are all prepared to be chosen for it saves the tribe it brings the Sun to the Earth so that the Earth can grow food and the people can survive every year and the sun gives this to them but in exchange they must give them a maiden who is chosen by bunch of Mean Girls. I totally get that scene but it's a very interesting Slavic tell which I will be posting about very soon

@annazeman8521

3 жыл бұрын

@@fatovamingus We, the audience, understand. But it is terrifying. Many people still think that dance should be "pretty".

One of the most difficult ballets ever performed, this for the conductor, ochestra, choreographers,directors and dancers, we are priviledged in being enabled to see it, relates to a time when "New" dance movements were afoot (excuse the pun), dancers such as Isadora Duncan and has many elements of "primitiv" art in it. Nijinsky's staccato dance moves are in perfect synchrony with Stravinskys complex, but beautiful music

This was the first truly modern dance. It’s incredible how perfectly it fits the music. And yet I still think of dinosaurs when I hear this. When they choose the sacrifice, I still think of the T. Rex and stegosaurus.

@fatovamingus

4 жыл бұрын

i never saw that you know...

@prittyugly86

3 жыл бұрын

Disney paid Stravinsky like $150 or $250 for the rights. Smh!!!!!

@prittyugly86

3 жыл бұрын

I'm doing a research paper atm... and I got to tell you idk how they call this ballet. Was Nijinsky using ballet terminology but just your attitude derriere exactly how it shouldn't be? Back collapsing turned in sickled foot and flexed??? Idk!!!

@longebane

2 жыл бұрын

@@prittyugly86 this feels more like a deliberate rebellion on ballet

@prittyugly86

Жыл бұрын

@@longebane I was told by a professor they called it a ballet because that's what they just call the performance. Like Alvin Ailey's Revolations is a "ballet" but not necessarily the dance genre

This is incredible and so eerie. I have never seen or heard anything like this.

@fatovamingus

8 жыл бұрын

I love seeing comments like yours!

@dianalee84

7 жыл бұрын

Fatova Mingus Thankyou So much for posting this for us to watch. I'm so grateful to be able to watch it.

@fatovamingus

5 жыл бұрын

I am running through the comments in the JOffrey videos. They go back NINE years. "I have never seen or heard anthing like this"....exactly

After falling down the second time, that poor girl was as doomed as the stegosaurus, and eventually the rest of the dinosaurs. That said, I only ever recognized "Rite of Spring" as associated with dinosaurs from Disney's "Fantasia". When I heard the score was from a ballet, I was thinking "Swan Lake" with gentle, graceful, and delicate dancers. After watching this entire performance from beginning to end, I was proven wrong. The dances are wild and erratic, except the part when the girls are dancing in a circle in the "choosing process". Definitely not your typical ballet, but I think that's why I find this so interesting and captivating. Now I can listen to the entirety of "Rite of Spring" without thinking about dinosaurs, not as much, at least. Thanks for sharing this. I really enjoyed it all.

fucking hell the bit with the circle is terrifying

@bewilderbeastie8899

8 жыл бұрын

+Depresstival Imagine being that young girl in the middle of that circle, knowing you've been singled out to die.

@ataconazi

8 жыл бұрын

yes now imagine seeing that through the eyes of a dusty old englishwoman in 1914 and you'll begin to understand how important this is to the development of modernist art.

@Depresstival

8 жыл бұрын

Why englishwoman, out of interest?

@fatovamingus

7 жыл бұрын

right it should be aristocratic French bitch as the ballet did open in Paris.

@fatovamingus

7 жыл бұрын

will u contact me? about your insight to Beatriz Rodriguez

With so much stumping, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the dancers would have to soak their feet in ice every break. That being said, it's very interesting to see a ballet that doesn't use their toes so much.

@fatovamingus

5 жыл бұрын

The "anti-ballet" they said. Do you kknow they were stoming the energy of the sun into the earth, The sun god wanted a virgin sacrifice every year.

Hearing this music live is a physical experience no speaker can reproduce, it must be amazing to dance it with the live orchestra.

@fatovamingus

6 жыл бұрын

I've seen this ballet with recorded and live orchestra./...you are right.

@fatovamingus

6 жыл бұрын

I have spoken/emailed with a number of "Chosen Ones" and Millicent as well about the EVENT that is Nijinsky's "Le Sacre". You should look at the Chosen One archive.plus.google.com/collection/ocJwCE

@thekitchenfloor8360

6 жыл бұрын

Laura Braga YES! Last night I danced with a proper live orchestra with the rest of my dance school

Nijinsky was schizophrenic and that is probably made him a genius. Thank you for sharing this awesome ballet! He had such a sad life. I wish there were film footage of him dancing.

@fatovamingus

5 жыл бұрын

We all do. Imagine??

My (now American) family comes from Russia. This conjures up the fear of the dark and nature and attempts to placate it. Jarring,bizarre and Perfect. Thankyou Joffery for bringing this to us!

8:30 When you fall in gym class hoping nobody notices but then they proceed to dance around you and make fun of you.

@fatovamingus

5 жыл бұрын

that's good.

@prittyugly86

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

wow somehow before the girl fell for the first time i already had an eye on that girl without knowing her as the sacrifice

@fatovamingus

7 жыл бұрын

that's weird. i did too.

I watch this ballet over and over. i became very familiar with the score at a young age. My favorite part is at 04:03-04 after the sage kisses the earth and the sun comes out of the clouds and the whole company is illuminated. This illustrates the beginning of religion very well.Thank you Ms Mingus for making this available. D.Alexandr Della Magdalena

An emotional rollercoaster. Brilliant. I listened in awe when I was 10 years old. 60 years later and I haven't changed.

Why do I find The Sage so incredibly creepy (especially when he is first introduced) ? Also, that part of the score has always been the most haunting for me.

@fatovamingus

5 жыл бұрын

oh yes it is - i think - the darkest part .

@fatovamingus

4 ай бұрын

Here I am 102 years late but when that Sage kisses the earth it is the handshake deal with the sick bastard sun god Jarillo that "yes I will give you another year of fertile earth but I want my virgin suicide". He didn't want a sacrifice. He wanted her to kill herself: dance herself to death

9:00 That's when the T-rex shows up.

@fatovamingus

7 жыл бұрын

You like dinosaurs. You picked a good spot in the music AND mostly the choreography. Wow. Dancing out of the Earth is the wildest part I think, You?

@tadghspalding2765

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@screamingweevil3410

6 жыл бұрын

That's the only thing I can think of at that part...

@Ssaarraa999

5 жыл бұрын

Fatova Mingus I think he means the part in walt disney’s fantasia

@corncrackerkid5092

3 жыл бұрын

@@fatovamingus that part in the music was the scene where the T Rex is stalking up in Fantasia 1940 but I could not agree more with you, that section would fit a large creature such as a dinosaur perfectly

Music for non-mortals, but for those with very high aesthetics and very good and deep understanding of music, even then not comprhended by all. Very beautiful, very complex, truly wonderful ballet and music.

The Chosen One's performance is so realistic/believable in this iteration.

@fatovamingus

2 жыл бұрын

It was the first performance since 1913. These dancers had to dig deep and find it within themselves to create this scenario written about pagan Russia and they did it. This is terrifying and beautiful and exciting - is actually epic. This is my favorite too.

@n.johanson9081

2 жыл бұрын

@@fatovamingus The only thing I can think of to describe it is mindblowing. I've watched the hundredth anniversary performance but I just don't think the dancer in that version portrayed the fear of the Chosen One quite as well as Beatriz Rodriguez.

@fatovamingus

2 жыл бұрын

@@n.johanson9081 Beatriz is a very private person and I've only ever communicated with her through Millicent Hodson. She's also deeply spiritual and I think that is why she was able to plug into the terror and responsibility of having to do the sacrifice herself. Wow you know I love hearing this stuff I'm going to try to relay it to her

Thanks so much for posting this. I'm familiar with the Fantasia version, and wanted to see what the original ballet looked like in comparison to the dinosaur story the animators depicted. Very interesting to watch the chosen one circle dance here while remembering the t-rex vs stegosaurus fight in the movie. Glad the Joffrey was able to recreate the original intentions.

Last night it was amazing my dance school danced to this and an orchestra actually were playing this song perfectly

@fatovamingus

6 жыл бұрын

Silvermoon Therian you go to a fantastic school!

3:50 Earthquake (finale) 5:31 Amphibians then dinosaurs. 9:00 Tyrannosaurus Rex attacks.

So powerful is this ballet it even transcends the very times. This is such an incredible performance, I doubt any other company could replicate it Nijinsky gave shape the timeless feeling of brutal charm and peril of prehistory. He created alongside Stravinsky a true masterpiece for the ages. Everything feels odd and distant from our time, the tune of binary harmony and the use of unconventional range on traditionally secondary instruments and the constant rhythm peach in the strings, the extravagant poses and moves of the ballet dancers, but yet it appeals so much on the base of our most natural simple human side. Astonishing. I discovered this piece with Fantasia and I had the pleasure to hear the piece performed by the Marinsky theatre orchestra conducted by Valery Gergiev. Thanks for giving us the curious users of YT to see the original choreography with such fidelity.

@fatovamingus

2 жыл бұрын

igorandmore.blogspot.com/2017/12/the-nijinsky-inheritance.html

@fatovamingus

2 жыл бұрын

My blog was syndicated for a while and then I got lazy and then I got sick and I didn't really do anything with it but The Nijinsky Inheritance has been picked up here and there and it's really my believe that Robert Joffrey 's wish to find this ballet set Nijinsky free...and because nijinsky was free he left this inheritance to the Joffrey. maybe it's a little emo but I liked it

@shimmereyes8984

2 жыл бұрын

You have my gratitude for the link. A toast to keep the good works of the past present in the contemporary theatre of music and general culture.

I just finish watching my tape of the initual broadcast on pbs.. some 26 years or so ago.. taped it on my vcr.. then transfer >dvd..transfer >my pc... I taped it on a vcr on its last legs... the recording is terrible.. but still electrifying..This video was my most prized possession, but lamented for years.. unable to find a decent copy..... and now... youtube has exploded in the last couple years.. AND HERE IT IS... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FANTASTIC.. THIS IS... something REALLY SPECIAL.. Act II blows you away..... am so happy whoever uploaded this.. thank you thank you....

Seeing the ballet with the music makes it all come together beautifully.

@fatovamingus

6 ай бұрын

Exactly. Think about it...the scenario, music and choreography were all in pace with each other...the forces that caused this to be performed 9 times and lost for 70 years were defeated though

Thank you so much for uploading this.

@fatovamingus

4 жыл бұрын

It's never going anywhere either! KZread will not let me consolidate the three pieces into one so it's always interesting to see how much people will watch and I'm so happy that you appreciate it!

I know this is a bit out of the blue but I think I saw you guys perform! My youth orchestra from Wollongong was touring Perth / Fremantle in 2009 and I had never heard The Rite of Spring ever before, but your performance completely blew my mind and it remains to this day my favourite piece of music of all time! A little awkward if it wasn't you guys but I'm fairly sure it was and I just want to say thankyou for introducing me to this spellbinding piece!

You can understand this was raw and visceral enough to cause riots

OMG..It is AMAZING..

@fatovamingus

4 жыл бұрын

I love seeing this! Tell me...what jars you the most?

@Paul49Giloi

4 жыл бұрын

Your comment suggests you would probably like Akram Khan's Giselle. Unfortunately, there are only snippets on KZread. Tamara Roja is incredible. kzread.info/dash/bejne/c5d218OhiLbPh7g.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/d3yEtpqCl8-yYNY.html

How wonderful to see this! I remember seeing this live- 1987, in NY City- when I was a dancer. Joffrey was a favorite of mine. If I remember correctly it was at City Center and it was stunning!!!!

@fatovamingus

Жыл бұрын

Millicent sent me the various promo sheets and playbills...i will look to see! What is Beatriz who danced the Chosen One? There were 3

Good god seeing the first Act live changes everything. Stunning.

The first time I ever heard Rite of Spring was on Disney's Fantasia so seeing it like this is a real treat! Though I must admit I was thinking about the dinosaurs a little near the end there :/

@mrbenoit5018

7 жыл бұрын

AeryonSun yeah,it feels odd to try and imagine both at once. Hmmmm....THERE'S an idea... COMING SOON TO A THEATRE NEAR YOU! DANCING PAGAN RUSSIANS VS DINOSAURS!

Fascinating! Were it not for the costumes and backgrounds, I'd wonder if anything about it at all were traditional. It's a stunningly complex amalgam of jarringly new and old-as-the-hills (certainly old-as-the(-late)-kurgans!). The hats and the men's long hair remind me of the Hittites a bit - which makes sense, seeing as both Slavs and Hittites were Indo-European. And the costumes - I'm shivering just looking at them!

@fatovamingus

8 жыл бұрын

IFIRST OF ALL I get so excited when people get into this! Roerich's costumes were designed to herald back as you wrote...however, I think Nijinsky's choreography being so awkward and away from traditional ballet moves right down to the turned in feet. It speaks to a time before the artistic where life was existence, superstition, preservation. I would go so far as to say Stravinsky's score - all unusual time signatures, all thunder and what at the time would be called nonsensical orchestration, uncountable - validates the whole theory. THIS IS genius all around.

I wonder, why did the girl have to fall TWICE before they decided to sacrifice her? The first drop they looked at her but kept dancing. The second drop they pushed her to the middle to begin the ritual.

@fatovamingus

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe they're just gave Her a Mulligan

100 later is still amazing

great

@fatovamingus

Жыл бұрын

Perfectly stated

Kudos on the liner notes! Most helpful, and coincides with the article in Wikipedia about Stravinsky's The Rite Of Spring (le Sacre du Pretemps).

@fatovamingus

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I have never heard that before. I have written ad nauseam on this and archived it as well.

@fatovamingus

6 жыл бұрын

perhaps they borrowed from me though I do not think that is your meaning, yes?

😮 I knew that Fantasia omitted portions of this composition, but I didn't know Disney's staff changed the order of the segments.

@fatovamingus

Жыл бұрын

I think I just responded to your comment on the 1st of the three installments of this! I'm interested to talk to you more about this

@daniellevinson6975

Жыл бұрын

@@fatovamingus I've seen all 3 clips.

enjoy so much the live performance in San Francisco!!! when you experience it live you can go into trance!!!

The bass clarinet part for this piece is WILD

OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Continues with the same feelings I got from part 1 - compelling and disturbing. I think I'd say it has a dark, frightening beauty.

I completely agree with your comment about Mariinsky ballet.

This will be contemporary forever

@fatovamingus

Жыл бұрын

I imagine when this debuted in 1987 that every contemporary choreographer threw up and questioned their talent

If you watch part 3 it plays during the credits :)

well, even though it was considered "controversial" you gotta admit its pretty damn engrossing. i came intended only to look at a little bit, and here i am about to watch the third part. i want to see what happens next :O

As a few people have mentioned, there are 4 minutes missing at 5:30. The intro to part 2 is gone, I don't know if it was taken out of the performance or edited out of the video. There are also about 20 seconds missing at the end if you compare to part 3 of this performance.

Those 5 minutes of music that people are talking about that is the introduction to Act II I believe it plays in the credits in part III :)

woah at the beginning of Part 2, did they skip the entire Introduction section? that's a shame; that part of the music was always one of my favorites. i wonder why they skipped it here?

@Captivagirl

6 жыл бұрын

no the beginning is in a separate video this is in 3 parts

@hematitic

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah they did; that's really weird. I also feel like there were some percussion parts (e.g. snare drum?) missing from the procession of the sage (around 3:30)

9:47 is a very intense spot in the choreography. Everything that follows it leads to her death. Though you don't particularly like the ballet, you most certainly picked up on something here...

If another performer falls when they aren't supposed to, does that person become the sacrifice?

@fatovamingus

6 жыл бұрын

Probably not

@fatovamingus

6 жыл бұрын

You should run with that though....there is a story in it.

Of course it's not supposed to be pretty. Russian culture in itself is dark and somewhat crude, sometimes pretty and other times vulgar, not to mention this ballet being about pagan, pre-orthodox Russia. It takes a Russian or one who loves Russia to see beauty in this.

@fatovamingus

6 жыл бұрын

Classy Jelly the Russian dancers left the Imperial ballet to come to the ballet Russe in France. The first few ballets heavily costumed in Russian culture were a big smash because it wasn't Pagan and it wasn't Stravinsky's Rite of Spring. too taxing on a bland imagination I suppose. dr. Kenneth Archer who recovered the costumes and set speaks extensively on this and I'm kicking myself in the arse for taking too long to assemble a piece about it. I have seen so many people commenting if you have anything to contribute please email me fatovamingus@hotmail.com

@Lara-wr2nm

Жыл бұрын

Or a modern dancer.

Hyperactivesky, the defining moment of the ballet is in this part, when or where the sacrifice is chosen, for there are 13 maidens and the one who does not keep up is the sacrifice. This is my favorite ballet, for me, by far the best of Stravinsky's. doug

Go to part 3. They play part of that movement during the closing credits

Best comment yet.

I have been ignoring my people, my place among the philistines,, we who ferret out the elitists and stuff. What's going on in music class??

Thanks! I really like this version. It is both hilarious and erotic. XD

@fatovamingus Thanks again for uploading this. Do you know about the costumes? Are they also based on notes from the original production? And are they based on what are thought to be the dress of "pagan Russia?"

Igor Stravinsky - Rite of Spring 2of3

@fatovamingus

Жыл бұрын

I was the first person to upload this and I still don't know how it happened or how I got it. But after a certain period of time KZread wouldn't allow me to merge them so people often don't get to see all the pieces I'm thrilled that you did

Nijinsky is like no other.

where the hell is the introduction to the sacrifice??? I love that part!

@fatovamingus

7 жыл бұрын

Alex Shor , the Mystic Circle starts at the end section 2 and picks up at the beginning of Section 3 it is not removed from the ballet. That would be incredibly ridiculous

7:00 gives me chills... whew. What an incredible reproduction of the original choreography

KZread IS DELETING YOUR COMMENTS. I can specify which. LET THEM KNOW HOW YOU FEEL

Did this miss out the intro to part II?

@mambooooooo917

6 жыл бұрын

TheBrassHole unfortunately, yes. /:

Hi Fatova, I have 2 questions for you. thanks in advance for your patience. 1:30 : what should mean the three jumps of the men? then... why this triplet is slowed? did Stravinsky write Rallentando or what else? and why the 3/2 beat is less than 6/4. also I hear discrepancies between the score (1947 B&H re-engraved 1967) and what I hear here (and in Bernstein too, 1958). The are other score more accurate? shoul the triplet (3:2) not be in tempo? thanks for explanations. regards.

@fatovamingus

5 жыл бұрын

Do you know I have been going back to old comments to see if anyone is still around as I have been screenshotting. And I replied to this. But it is not here/.

unnoticeable? I noticed this discrepanty: a triplet of black notes vs. 3 white note! and here -as bernstein told- all is strongly in tempo, the Rubato part is at the beginning, where we can read rubato.the most parts are in tempo.

In all other versions I've seen The Chosen One falls outside of the circle. In this one, she falters but remains within the circle. Interesting.

@fatovamingus

3 жыл бұрын

These observations are thrilling for me because this was the first time it was performed after being buried for 70 years. They didn't have a template they had to go with their instinct. Did you notice how when they pushed Beatrice into the circle she looked from girl to girl as if to say "what what what did I do!"

I want to see a live production

@fatovamingus

3 жыл бұрын

Do you know that I actually left after the first Act . I was so mad blonde by what I saw on that stage in the First Act that I didn't want it to be interferes with by what I knew would be an explosion of Music in Act 2. I don't know if you're going to get a chance to see it for awhile stay in touch with me!

@cowboylemonheadmedia

3 жыл бұрын

@@fatovamingus sure. Hit me on IG @cowboylemonhead

Out of curiosity, what is the source of these videos?

8時だｮ！全員集合！！

8:34 the T-Rex from Fantasia!

To me, it is very evident that Joffrey's video quality is a lot better...much sharper, and shows the scene slightly from above, which allows us to see the choreographic shapes and changes. Too bad the Mariinsky video doesn't do that... Though that would still not compel me to watch the whole Rite of Spring, unless I was bored! Sorry! ...hey, you gotta give me credit for watching Les Noces--and I found it very interesting, esp. with the special features/explanations/behind-the-scenes

Yeah well I was lucky to get this much. If you happen to find a complete copy by a company other than the abominable Marinsky maybe you could post it, Having the debut of the restoration works for me even with the missing minutes. Seeing The Joffrey perform this next week. Are you seeing it yourself? -Fatova

sorry meant to say 100years later

Bernstein rewrote some parts in 4/4. warning: at this point we DONT have irregular meters, if you mean asymmetricla meters in /16th. rubato? when S. want rubato he write rubato. to my question at this point, it were fine if we look at all the scores (6 scores if I remeber right). some conductors play in tempo, Bernstein play at double tempo only this "triplet".

If one likes Swan Lake (a parrot would enjoy it's simplicity!!!!) one really ought to have enough finesse to enjoy this without pretensions!!!!

@jojokerus The costumes were designed by Nicholas Roerich who allegedly came up with the whole idea of Le Sacre. Please check out my channel which has a link to my blog - there is a LOT about this there. You can also find the BBC movie "Riot at the Rite" there which is fantastic. -Fatova

On opening night, ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ WE RIOT ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ

So do you count to yourself in English, Russian, or French when dancing this piece?

@fatovamingus

7 жыл бұрын

Larry Schwartz aramaic.

addendum: I hear one beat in 3/4 insted of quarter note triplet into a 3/2 beat. and the 3/2 is "less" than 6/4. its an error in the score ?

@maggieholland8202

3 жыл бұрын

The counts on this score are wild

@shonnyno

3 жыл бұрын

@@maggieholland8202 the good is the score have asymmetricl mixed meters but without irregular patterns (tripets into the 2 beat or duplets into a 3 beat...) as it happens by macedonian folksongs ;)

@maggieholland8202

3 жыл бұрын

@@shonnyno huh. Thats cool

A for Effort. But c'mon, this is basically original, albeit intuitive, choreography. When are modern ballet choreographers gonna learn from all the great stuff out there - like the American Indian Dance theatre, f'r'instance? Those guys should do this piece! That's what Stravinsky wanted, too: genuine old-school dancing, by professional dancers. Amercian Indian Dance Theatre!

4:33 my man is doing burpees

They skipped a whole section in the music! :(

"Pagan Russia" is a bit of a misnomer, since it sounds like it's referring to pagan ethnic Russians. The dress/dance was based upon the Yakut people of eastern Siberia, so it's really "indigenous Siberia".

I'm not much of a fan of ballets that are not classical, so it's hard for me to judge which is better. The Russian dancers are more lyrical, while the Joffrey dancers are more sharp and abrupt. Also, very noticeable is Joffrey's much more colorful costumes and sets. Which quality is more interesting (for today's audiences/ for different country's audiences)? Which interpretation is closer to the original? I'm the last person to judge...

Considering that the Joffrey restored the ballet from Nijinsky's notes, I;d say they are closer to the original. It's a little wilder, more abandon. That's also more like Stravinsky. You really have to want to hear Stravinsky to watch a ballet set to his music. I think the Russians hold back like crazy. Too refined, too trained, too Russian. I'm the daughter of a Russian mother, trust me I know.

I blame twoset for bringing me here

@fatovamingus

5 жыл бұрын

Whether it's your theory Professor or twoset, you got here. And if you hate it or you love it your opinion is so welcome even if it's negative and it's been that way for 10 years on this video. So I want to know what you guys think now!

@nonchalantree6604

5 жыл бұрын

Oh I actually really enjoyed this, I probably shouldn't have worded it that way. It's cool to see a piece from over 100 years ago being performed. I really do appreciate that you would preserve this for anyone to watch. The choreography and music together was something I have never seen before and now if I ever get the chance in my lifetime, I really would want to see this in person.

8:33

@fatovamingus

2 жыл бұрын

When I was a little girl and I never saw this ballet at it hadn't been found this particular spot that you pointed out I would sing it in the backyard and stomp around and the neighbors called my parents and said they think there's something wrong with Fatova. But my father is sorry does the neighbors have something wrong with them if they cared get into Stravinsky

crimson, it's not really a story, more of a..., I don't know, a depiction of the coming of spring in ancient, rural Russia. You probably know that they are "adoring the earth" right now, and the next part is when they sacrifice a maiden to please the earth. That's basically the outline of this "story"

Looks like Twyla Tharp could have had a hand in this choreography. It is so non-ballet like - more like modern dance. I'm really enjoying it though.

I really wish I knew the story that was happening. I'm so deaf/blind when it comes to Ballet. =[

@maggieholland8202

3 жыл бұрын

Its a pagan ritual. They are stomping the energy of the sun into the ground and the sun god demands a vigin be sacrificed and the chosen one dances to death

Coil sampled this

Anyone else thanks it reminds them of Cats??

Obviously, if one loves Swan Lake, one is not going to love this ballet. Yet approached through Jungian psychology is full of meaning, plus beauty. I guess it takes a love and appreciation of Russia, like Nietzsche had it, to love this ballet.

@bewilderbeastie8899

8 жыл бұрын

+Ricardo Martinez What's the problem with loving both? One doesn't single out the other, they are both powerful and beautiful for very different reasons.

@dianalee84

7 жыл бұрын

Like staring into an abyss..and having it look back at you.

i think disney should've done something more like this, instead of scaring the crap out of kids with hellish, dark and gritty atmosphere

@guccideltaco

5 жыл бұрын

So the kiddies would more appreciate human sacrifice? ;-)

@Steventhe2nd

4 жыл бұрын

@@guccideltaco better then seeing the dark, gritty and hellish atmosphere and fearing that the world would end like it was shown in the movie

@guccideltaco

4 жыл бұрын

@@Steventhe2nd I think either way it's going to be traumatizing.

@Diloparker

Жыл бұрын

I disagree, first of all I think this would still be traumatic to some kids; and secondly kids need to be scared every once in a while. In fact ( call me a young psychopath if you want ) but I actually enjoyed seeing the T. rex battle the stegosaurus when I was younger. The only part that made me uncomfortable was seeing the dinosaurs face their extinction. But I’ve actually grown to appreciate that Disney wanted to take a risk and teach kids that nature isn’t all blood and gore, but it isn’t sunshine and rainbows either. Also remember, the entire rite of spring segment isn’t just the T. rex battling the stegosaurus, or the dinosaurs going extinct. There’s actually a lot of peaceful scenes like the dinosaurs peacefully eating, or the plesiosaurs just swimming around. Even the T. rex itself isn’t a villain, it didn’t kill the stegosaurus to be evil; it killed the stegosaurus to eat. Don’t get me wrong, I see we’re you’re coming from; I just don’t think all kids should be treated as wussies.

8:31 u don fucked up

@fatovamingus

6 жыл бұрын

littlelamp100 ha I've heard comments about that minute but this one was probably the best

It’s a perfect metaphor for what the US is experiencing right now: the sacrificial virgin (Lady Liberty) offered up on the altar of prosperity, a culture having danced itself to death. Even more poignant that the dancers are dressed as Native Americans, since this is where that “ritual circle” was drawn. So many parallels, and lessons to learn from great art like this...

@fatovamingus

3 жыл бұрын

what a great comment! In the concept of the ballet, the virgin is and glorified for her own sacrifice which would save the tribe - did she have a choice? And how silent all of it happens. Loved this.