Bringing up the celtics record against “top 4 teams in the west” and not their record against the mavs is hilarious

@kingmark4233

21 күн бұрын

Especially the fact that Mavs were 0-4 against the two teams in ECF...lol.

@ramzeezthamightygod

21 күн бұрын

I swear mfs will find the most irrelevant reasonings to blindly justify what they want as a fan. Anything but the actual matchups and breakdown of the hoops

I’ve only seen people taking the mavs purely based on vibes

@Spacewalk11

22 күн бұрын

Lmao nothing wrong with that. Celtics the better team but I think the casual fan likes watching the Mavs more because they’re more entertaining imo. Luka and Kyrie are must see TV. With that being said Boston is simply too good imo. Mavs certainly can win but I don’t think they will. Regardless it should be a fun series

@user-gc1wj8tt2p

22 күн бұрын

You literally pick the celtics cause of the regular season but P don't want to bring regular season stats in lmao

@SilkyLew

22 күн бұрын

​@user-gc1wj8tt2p I mean they dominated in the post season too.

@FeedRevo

21 күн бұрын

@@Spacewalk11correct, people that like watching the mavs aka one or two players isoing are casual basketball fans

@Spacewalk11

21 күн бұрын

@@FeedRevo That’s not what I said. I said the casual fan prefers them because they’re objectively more entertaining, however just because you like watching the mavs doesn’t make you a casual. JJ Reddick said his favorite team to watch is the Mavs. He’s certainly not a casual. Also the Mavs aren’t just 2 guys going iso. They actually share the ball really well. Celtics did a great job of taking that away game 1 as their whole gameplan was not allow Luka to playmake and make the Mavs play iso which is why they struggled on offense. The Mavs have moved the ball very well all of the playoffs tho which is why they always have 1 random player go off. Maxi had a 20 point game, PJ had multiple 25+ games, DJJ had 20+ games, Hardy & THJ 15+ games etc. not to be rude but that comment of yours was a casual take lmao. I can tell you don’t watch the Mavs which is fine but pretending you understand a team you don’t watch is wild. Mavs are a top 2 team for a reason, and 2 guys going iso all game isn’t the reason. Mavs need to find a way to get everyone else involved and I think it’s gonna take them punishing the Celtics for taking away passing lanes. They punish the Celtics by Luka going nuclear if they don’t help which is what they need to do to force Boston to play help which will allow the Mavs to get back to their style of drive and kick. I expect iso ball in game 2 and depending on how it goes I think the Celtics will change their game plan if Luka can punish them. We’ll see tho, Celtics are certainly the better team

This clip is the perfect example of how Joel just runs his mouth until he falls into his own traps that he laid. Cause he picks a dozen agendas a season and then adds 6 more come playoff time.

@user-gc1wj8tt2p

22 күн бұрын

You high? Pierre is an insecure guy that can't handle when he's being questioned. The guy literally goes on a tantrum, he talks about not using regular season stats when that's literally the Celtics resume. He alos brought up random rings as if the celtics have won a ring with this team lmao

@juyahmad

22 күн бұрын

@@user-gc1wj8tt2pno stop! Pierre cooked Joel

@user-gc1wj8tt2p

22 күн бұрын

@@juyahmad Yea you have 0 IQ if you think Pierre cooked after bringing up rings with no correlation to their argument lmao Pierre was about to cry. Kenny carries that squad

@juyahmad

22 күн бұрын

@@user-gc1wj8tt2p go watch the video again! Pierre won, like stop it. Be serious! Enough of this trolling, you know good and dang well Joel was embarrassing himself

@KP-sh9he

21 күн бұрын

Anybody defending Joel likes to argue for nothing

Joel be flip flopping like a mf

@KP-sh9he

21 күн бұрын

Shit ass

@td5647

20 күн бұрын

He annoying asf bro lmao.

Revisitng this after watching boston spank the mavs is hilarious

@cristianjurado5796

22 күн бұрын

Revisiting after watching Boston spank the Mavs in game 1*

@Instantur

22 күн бұрын

@@cristianjurado5796 it will be game 2 also

@joshlitman8310

17 күн бұрын

You were right sir

20 PTS in 22 Minutes for KP along with 3 blocks, Joel nice prediction

It’s just good to see someone with common sense and basketball intelligence come on here and talk to these boys about how “take” heavy they’re show is. Instead of dialogue heavy they wanna pick apart points and win arguments instead of sharing conversations

@amgfresh154

23 күн бұрын

They all know ball

@ramzeezthamightygod

21 күн бұрын

@@amgfresh154Joel not acting like it. He making it personal when it’s not… he talking bout literally anything besides the actual matchups and analysis of how these teams play

@waru2905

20 күн бұрын

Show will never go anywhere with that especially someone like Joel being the loudest voice of it , just embarrassing

Listening to this after game 1 is hilarious

“So you’re picking Boston because they were the best team in the league?” Yeah Joel dumb as hell

@waru2905

20 күн бұрын

Dumbest guy ever

4:58 lmao watching the game rn and KP was killing them

Turn down Joel’s mic and turn up Pierre’s

Does anyone else really hate Joel or is it just me?

@StevenPlesz

21 күн бұрын

He does the classic "start from a conclusion, then try to constantly shift the argument to support that". He ignores points that are inconvenient instead of letting them even slightly alter his view. Maybe it's just Luka bringing his stanhood out, but i could see why Pierre was getting so mad. I'd be pissed if I went on a basketball discussion show and was met with barely veiled agenda-pushing and tons of words being put in his mouth.😅

@maxwellsplash970

6 күн бұрын

Bro he’s 5’4’ and 200+ pounds leave em be 😂😂😂😂

Respect to p for actually doing his job as a analyst cause most of the media been giving these cop out a$s reasonings with no breakdowns of actual hoops

piere has faced this much push back in his entire TTW/NOTB career lol

I’m so tired of hearing the Celtics have had the easiest finals run when 4 of the 5 showtime lakers finals runs was easier in 1987 they played a 37 wins nuggets team then 42 win warriors team then 39 win SuperSonics that sound like a easier run to me

@zionhendricks7610

11 күн бұрын

Man that’s probably neither here nor there. I mean I get the run wasn’t the most challenging on for Boston but back in the showtime’s era the league just wasn’t that competitive playoff wise if you going up against a team with 3 stars. That’s one of the reasons why magic vs bird supposedly saved the league at that time. It was a new high level of competition coz if one or the other didn’t exist bird or magic would’ve just dominated and the league probably would’ve seemed boring from the outside. Look at Man City in the prem as an example that of consistent dominance being bad for a league

Besides Joel yall all picked OkC and the Wolves, now they got good matchups??

@woke49

23 күн бұрын

joel change his picks all the time

@michaelmoore3373

23 күн бұрын

It's reasonable tho. OKC should have put up a better fight the way Shai played. Jalen Williams and Chet were kinda underwhelming. Same with the Timberwolves. A lot of people expected a great series after what they did to Denver. Ant and KAT were even more underwhelming than Jalen Williams and Chet. Dallas is playing as I expected. OKC and Minnesota played closer to how I expected they'd play to start the season

@olumideaje9612

22 күн бұрын

​@@michaelmoore3373So no credit is given to the Mavs for making them look that way? Ant, KAT, Chet, and Jalen Williams all playing bad against the mavs didn't happen by coincidence after they all looked good in previous series. Everyone was prepared to make Ant the face of the league until he had an underwhelming series against Dallas.

@apatheticdee7300

22 күн бұрын

@@olumideaje9612cant really credit the Mavs for making a sophomore and rookie in Dub & Chet in there first playoffs look subpar tbh

@uglygod0

22 күн бұрын

@@apatheticdee7300why not? 🤣🤣 their scheme was to make the other guys beat them and they clearly couldn’t…..

Never heard of this Joel guy but hes a massive casual

@maxwellsplash970

6 күн бұрын

😂😂 massive is an understatement

Ngl you guys having something that turns your guest down when they talk while you’re talking is so fucking corny. The ego on that is insane.

this didnt age well joel what happened????

@olumideaje9612

22 күн бұрын

Only game 1

@MrCoolboy800

21 күн бұрын

game 1

@joshlitman8310

17 күн бұрын

What about now??

@sydoesgames

17 күн бұрын

@@joshlitman8310 2-0 😂😂😂 game 3 ain’t even happen yet 🤡🤡

Joel can be so defensive lmao

@Waljones8

23 күн бұрын

It's super annoying, I swear he the worst in the podcast

p debating laps around that man and when points are made he gets out the "so youre telling me - youre acting like" phrases. shit aint even a response to what hes sayin, just steering the convo all over the place

Bro talking bout some “ultimately” bruh take yourself to the gym and get your mind right if you can’t stand on what you say , people like Joel are what make basketball discourse so draining to participate in because you guys choose to be idiots on purpose like who even raised y’all smh . That’s why folks be overweight on in the internet spewing nonsense like a goofy , this show won’t go anywhere with that man , real talk 🤙

@CrackerBarrelkid555

20 күн бұрын

LMAOOO ONG

That entire argument where Pierre tried to dismiss Joel's point about Lukas pick and roll game by saying Luka hasn't won rings might be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. These dudes were just polite to P to not ridicule him to his face there.

@lewis9275

23 күн бұрын

P was 100% right with what he said. It’s irrelevant talking about how how the Celtics are a bad pick and roll team because in the playoffs that doesn’t matter

@sinakhazaei734

23 күн бұрын

Well, also Pierre was alluding to the fact that Luka running pick and roll will not win you a chip. Sure it is a factor but not the REASON as Joel was trying to make his whole argument about it.

@thejoelmoranshow

23 күн бұрын

@@lewis9275how is it irrelevant and why wouldn’t it matter that the Celtics are a bad P&R defense when going up against a heavy P&R offense? That literally makes no sense

@sqwiz6905

23 күн бұрын

@@austindowney5581n look what happen today p was 10000% right that really doesn’t matter luka coulda have 40 even 50 today and they still woulda lost tn it’s a team game not who plays the best p&r game smfh

@sinakhazaei734

23 күн бұрын

@@austindowney5581 well looks like piere was correct because with porzingus that pnr was non existent lmaoo

Nah P cooked Joel

Nuggets last year. They played the 8th seed of their conference, then the 4th, then the 7th in the WCF, and then the 8TH seed in the East in the Finals. Why are we talking like this doesn't happen

@Raider_Sage

21 күн бұрын

Because it's not the Celtics

Badmouthing Al is crazy

9:46 That's factually incorrect. After the conclusion of the semifinals the T-wolves were the favorites to win the championship, that's including Boston. Hindsight is always 20/20, because after the Denver series nobody would've said Boston is FAR AND AWAY better than Minnesota. Its only after Minnesota loses to Dallas that you guys are now trying to act like the Celtics have always been much better than them.

@cristianjurado5796

22 күн бұрын

In no world were the T wolves ever favored over the Celtics...

My whole thing is... How is best pick and roll offense vs worst pick and roll defense not a good or relevant point to make? What...?

@nateduffy2872

23 күн бұрын

Exactly

@lebronjames4310

23 күн бұрын

Cause boston is an elite pick and roll defense and Dallas is slow and easy to guard

@bigsmacked

21 күн бұрын

It’s only one aspect of the game, and they’ve only been that bad in the playoffs because they haven’t had Porzingis who is one of the best pnr defenders in the league. That’s why.

One game in so far but Joel's takes are aging like milk. Also generally, I'm convinced people shitting on Tatum don't watch actual games and just watch highlight reels. Dude was drawing 2-3 on every drive last night and his passing has been great. Tidy up those BS turnovers and the C's win the series easily.

@smoothhoops3739

22 күн бұрын

Facts

P was not cooking just louder like always

@austindowney5581

23 күн бұрын

Imagine thinking that the heat cavs and pacers all without their best player is closer to the mavs than fully healthy okc and wolves teams are to the Celtics. That was one of the dumbest takes I’ve ever heard P have.

@Darsam88

23 күн бұрын

​@@austindowney5581And he was basing it off record, like the East wasn't by far the easier conference. The teams the Mavs beat are much closer to Boston than anyone Boston played.

@austindowney5581

23 күн бұрын

@@Darsam88 exactly!

@lebronjames4310

23 күн бұрын

@@Darsam88Boston was 23-7 and 64 win pace 2-0 vs Dallas lmao west not shit

@andrewparisi9527

23 күн бұрын

@@austindowney5581I think y’all just don’t understand/don’t want to admit how good boston is

I love Pierre man 😂

ultimately 💀

Joel is the Perk of this podcast. Will come up with the most asinine take, and will immediately flip flop once you show him a donut.

Pee Wee kicked those asses.

First dmills now him lol shoutout to P

joel "flip a side" moran exposed

20 points in 21 minutes lol

Peewee lil bro'd him... Really talking about things that don't matter, Minnesota doesn't have versatile individual defenders or close to the offensive fire power like the Celtics...

I don’t know who picked wolves and OKC over Dallas, them beating the clippers guaranteed them a WCF, and Denver losing made it easier

Kp must of watched this video bruh was on that today 😭😭

Joel cooked Pierre for calling him out for trying hard to be different too especially with Ben>Luka which he already walking back. Pierre will say it on his show himself that he just wants to be different when it comes to certain takes.

I all I'm hearing from Mavs fans is emotions...stop it they haven't gotten it done against Boston all season.

All the arguing aside, wasn’t it amazing listening to the PnR offense/defense being the main factor in this series….and then watching Boston absolutely destroy their PnR offense. Shit is music to my ears

You mean they have a negative record against the Nuggets. The reason you keep it to the top 4 is because #5(the Mavericks) makes it 5-5. Bring in #6 and it’s 7-5. It’s literally just the Nuggets.

They literally played trash on the pick and roll! Luka had 1 assist

Listening to this after 2 games is fucking hilarious

This age so well

How do y'all like listing to Joel please answer!!!!!

12:15 Nobody in their right mind should be saying there's a gap between Boston and Denver. P on here yapping 😂. He's saying that after they lost

@fabiancardona6240

22 күн бұрын

He was talking about the teams the Mavs played dingus

@jeremiahsmith7706

22 күн бұрын

@@fabiancardona6240 he said the Celtics have been the best team in the LEAGUE all year. That statement includes everyone. And prior to Dallas smoking Minnesota nobody would've said Boston was FAR better than the t-wolves.

Miami was never an underdog especially against okc.

One guy in blue surpass you quartet...you even can't listen him speaking the truth..

This game is relative. What was Denver’s record against the top 4 team in the west….Denver was 1-3 v okc alone. N nuggets are the only team that beat cs twice all yr

@taylor7264

20 күн бұрын

Reg szn losses are inevitable. Good teams lose to good teams only. That’s the Celtics

Last game Dallas beat Denver ...

keep hating joel lol ❤

lol looks like we made the Finals because any ritual or something. So Minnesota defense dont matter casuse regular season but celtics matter beacuse yeah

Here after Bos up 2-0 and beating Luka's ass 😊

Yeee P make him stand on it!!

P cooked the shit out of Joel

@renanlucas8

23 күн бұрын

When does Joel Not got cooked ?

@killshot10001

23 күн бұрын

@@renanlucas8 big fax but still his worst one

@Crundmama

23 күн бұрын

Yeah no. Pierre was talking out his backside and getting mad when called out on his contradictions. This entire pod was one of P's weakest performances.

@juniormazariego9701

23 күн бұрын

I think Pierre lost it with all the contradictions

@killshot10001

23 күн бұрын

@@Crundmama example cause I’m dead ass curious

new listener, Joel is bad teammate of the pod, doesnt let people talk and gets louder / cuts off while they're talking, repeats everything, contradicts himself and says "ultimately" waaaay too much lmao

I picked mavs to beat the wolves too

@taylor7264

20 күн бұрын

N I picked wolves to beat nuggets

Boston is clearly the better team, but pretending picking Dallas is wild makes no sense. It wasn’t wild to pick the wolves over Dallas even tho the Mavs won in 5 because we know how dangerous the wolves are and they were peaking at the right time. I think Boston will win but I think Dallas has a chance. Even if Dallas gets swept I won’t feel foolish for saying Dallas has a chance. They have the clear best player in the series and have a roster that’s capable of beating anyone. Whether or not they do beat anyone is still to be seen but they certainly can. Whereas teams like the Pacers were never gonna win a 7 game series against a healthy Boston team. KP on any given night could be their best player (he was game 1 along with JB) and they still got swept. Obv Hali was hurt too but they were down 2-0 with him and without KP

Thunder and Twolves are taking the Celtics to 6 easily. Dude is buggin

@Chrisd0ntmiss

23 күн бұрын

The thunder would get washed bro be serious

@wayneverhoff2790

22 күн бұрын

@@Chrisd0ntmiss no ball knowledge

@Chrisd0ntmiss

22 күн бұрын

@@wayneverhoff2790 yeah bro the team that took Luka at his absolute worst to 6 is taking a healthy Celtics to 6😭😭 stfu

@wayneverhoff2790

22 күн бұрын

@@Chrisd0ntmiss yall get too caught up 6 games. 7 games. 5 games. Like actually watch the games and how close it they are. Luka was still hurt against the Twolves how’d he look there?? I’m not going to say that the injury didn’t impact him at all but we can’t see that. What we can see is that Dort is prolly the best player in the league to guard Luka cause he can actually matchup pound for pound with his physicality. SGA is torching anyone in front of them just like Luka. No is beating the Celtics when they play that well in game 1 but I reckon that’s gonna be the best game they play all series before adjustments. So yeah OKC is is not getting swept by the Celtics. They’re playing it close and winning 2-3 games

Joel ruins the podcast because he’s so bias

@kendellbrown

23 күн бұрын

Cap

@austindowney5581

23 күн бұрын

He’s literally the least biased on the entire pod. Everybody else on the pod been hating on the mavericks and picking against them the entire playoffs and trying to use the same reasoning over and over again.

@thinkoutloud2144

23 күн бұрын

He the only one who challenged Pierre on his bullshit

@kendellbrown

23 күн бұрын

He’s intelligent. It’s fine to be a bit bias. But he understands information. He’s going to evolve into a great analyst

@austindowney5581

23 күн бұрын

@@Justin683 didn’t say he wasn’t biased. I said least biased.

You guys are bums

Super disrespectful to the guys. Pierre should issue an apology for how arrogant and disrespectful he was. Talking over these guys on their own show. Trying to make it impossible for others to have an opinion. It’s ok to disagree. Mavs clearly got bodied game 1. But this is not the way to have a discussion. Look how dead silent everyone was when Pierre said they only worried about clickbait. That’s odee disrespectful to the grind these boys have put in. This kid is a fkn nuisance on Theoigh the wire and now he doing it on someone else’s show. SMH man

@bkelly625

22 күн бұрын

Nah he just knows ball more than these guys… Pierre in past years was a total casual and annoying but he’s progressed a lot and is just frustrated by these guys biased and casual takes. Joel has hated on Tatum and Celtics so much he doesn’t deserve a cordial conversation

@aamirkhuller6277

22 күн бұрын

Dawg wtf 😂😂 Joel burner we found youuu

Here to say Tatum is the most overrated star ever