Joe's Seafood Prime Steak & Stone Crab at Caesar's Palace Las Vegas
Joe's Seafood Prime Steak and Stone Crab at the Forum Shops inside Caesar's Palace Las Vegas is one of the highest grossing restaurants in the Vegas valley. I've dined at Joe's a couple of times in the past but it's been several years since I've returned and certainly the first time I'm putting it on video. I hope you're ready for a lot of food in the video because
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Joe's Seafood Prime Steak and Stone Crab
(A): 3500 Las Vegas Blvd S, Las Vegas, NV 89109
(P): (702) 792-9222
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Love how unbiased your review's are… so refreshing in a space where everyone seems to be bought and paid for when it comes to Vegas reviews.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I try to just call it like I taste it though admittedly, I'm not that picky of an eater lol. Thanks for watching!
I agree that you are a very good food reviewer, one of the best actually on KZread. Your ability to bring such eloquent descriptions that are accurate deserves to have a massive audience. It will happen.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Thank you! I'm having a good time doing this so whether it's for a large audience or a small one, I'm enjoying the journey. Thanks for watching!
Love how you go over the entire menu!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy my style. Thanks for watching!
One of the best YOU TUBERS for foodies! I appreciate the vast assortment of food and appetizers. Money is not the issue just a buffet of food and honest review!!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I appreciate that thank you!
Glad you had some peeps to share that outstanding grub with.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
My sister and bro-in-law definitely enjoyed themselves. Thanks for watching!
Happy that you’re no longer ill. Glad you’re able to enjoy. Giving me ideas of where to go at Caesars
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I'm also happy that I'm no longer ill! Thanks for watching!
I'm so glad you got to try stone crabs!!!! They are brilliant, in my opinion, because they are SO tasty and also sustainable! Another great video!!!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Yes! I love that they only take the claw and throw them back in the water. Thanks for watching!
I’m really glad to have you back
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Me too! Thanks for watching!
Shin man your the best bro. My wife and I are going to Vegas soon and thanks to you, we know where NOT to eat which will save us money in the long run. Your honesty about the food you have tried has helped so many people.
@milfordcumber3967
8 күн бұрын
Take it from me. Joe's is my go to spot. I am like you, everywhere is expensive and one bad meal $$$$ and that will be your memory. i just in LV for 5 days, joe's twice
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Thanks Ryan, I'm glad you're both enjoying the videos and I can help you out! Thanks for watching!
I have been there a few times and also in Chicago. I was there last month and your review is spot on. The shrimp is dry and not tender. Even the shrimp cocktail is dry. The fried chicken is dry and not well seasoned. Best bet is the crab, steaks and fish. The service is nice and the prices reasonable for Vegas. Thx for your honesty.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Crab, steak and fish happen to be some of my favorites so that works out for me! Thanks for watching!
THE FOOD REALLY LOOKS SO DELICIOUS 😋. THANKS FOR SHARING ANOTHER EXCITING TO WATCH VIDEO. KEEP UP THE MAGNIFICENT JOB SHIN. HAVE A FANTASTIC WEEKEND 👏🏼👏🏼😁👍🏼
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Thank you Tracey! Glad you enjoyed!
Great review. Been to Joe's a number of times and we always get the Jumbo Stone Crab Claws (very pricey but worth it) along with a nice medium rare Ribeye. Note: NO Chicken at a Steakhouse!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Good choices! The claws and mid-rare ribeye would probably be my order off camera as well. Thanks for watching!
We LOVE Joe’s. There’s one near us in DC, so while it’s on our Vegas steakhouse list (of over 70 steakhouses!), we will try others before we head to the Vegas location. My husband loves pies the most, so you can imagine how much he enjoyed desert. Thanks for continuing to ‘go beast’ in Vegas! Great video.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised with the pie. It was so good! Yeah, if you have a Joe's near you, other steakhouses are probably the ones to visit first. Thanks for watching!
Shin, I really look forward to seeing you on Tuesday and Saturday! 😊
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Thank you very much! I appreciate that!
Great video! You really bring the food alive with your commentary and videoing. Thanks.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I'm glad to hear it! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for another great strip location honest review.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
You got it! Thanks for watching!
ive had king crab legs there with my parents back in 2013, excellent! they were out of stone crab legs but now king crab legs are my fav.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I love king crab legs as well. Tasted so good in the sandwich. Thanks for watching!
Thanks Shin, you really describe food great!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed and liked my style. Thanks for watching!
I forgot, Joe's does have the best key lime pie ever!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Yes! I was so surprised with it. It was excellent! Thanks for watching!
I've walked past this restaurant a hundred times, but because of your review, we'll be eating there soon!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Nice! I hope you enjoy when you make your visit! Thanks for watching!
You always outdo yourself Shin! Great video on Joes!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Thanks Jay! Glad you enjoyed!
Great review. Glad you had some company along. Love your reviews. Detailed, but to the point. Not long drawn out. Also love that you go over the menu at a nice pace, so that I can pause and look at the discription. Some food reviewers just fly that part so quickly, not giving me time to pause it, and not telling what's on the menu. This is very much appreciated. Enjoy your leftovers, especially those potatoes and spinach. Those looked so good. Looking forward to next time.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Happy to hear you're enjoying the style of my videos. I want to have the best food videos in Vegas on KZread so I've been trying to take as much feedback as possible to incorporate into my videos. I too used to zoom through the menu until I got comments that it was not working for some viewers so I slowed it down. I ate all the leftovers already from this meal and it was great ! Thanks for watching!
Lots of good options. So happy you are back. Great review as usual 👍
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I'm happy to be back also! Thanks for watching Allie!
Whooooooooooooaaa super Delish!!! I was just there love it!!!❤
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Nice! I'm glad you liked it too! Thanks for watching!
To be honest, this channel needs to go UP. You covered the whole menu, lord knows this was $$$$$. Appreciate you bruh, i’m going there soon!
@VegaswithShin
Күн бұрын
Happy to be of help! I hope you have a great trip when you make it out. Thanks for watching!
Great video and great food shin thanks 👍👍👍❤️😃
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching!
Glad you are feeling better, Shin!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I'm also happy to be feeling better! Thanks for watching!
Nice upgrade on the equipment, Shin! Perfect choice for your videos.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I like my new setup too! It's great. Thanks for watching!
Joe's Seafood Prime Steak & Stone Crab at Caesar's Palace looks amazing! Thanks for sharing this mouthwatering experience!
@VegaswithShin
4 күн бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching!
Always had stone crab 🦀 and mustard with my Dad in Florida his favorite combo glad to see you enjoying it here with your family 😊yum!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
What a great combo! So good! Thanks for watching!
Glad you feel better 🎉
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
Love Joes .The King Crab is the best I ever had.Another great review
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
The king crab inside the crab roll was so sweet and delicious! Love king crab. Thanks for watching!
looks great ty for sharing
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching Claire!
I’m so happy that you went to Joe’s! It’s my go to on my last day In Vegas. The service is always great. Kind of old school style. The food is always great. I, too, love the Key Lime Pie but all their pies are house made and delicious.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed myself here and the key lime pie was incredible. I was blown away. Thanks for watching!
that was a good looking steak
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Really good steak! Thanks panjo!
And yet another great video the steak and the spinach looked amazing Happy Father's Day to you and your brother in law love you ❤
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Thank you Lori!
@lorifreeman1746
7 күн бұрын
Your welcome
Great Review Shin! I Love Stone Crabs! Looks like they offer a lot of Seafood options! Thank you for sharing your experience with us! ❤
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Lots of great seafood options at Joe's. I liked it here. Thanks for watching!
Back on the saddle again Shin! After seeing numerous videos of yours, I can predict how good or bad the dish is based on your eyes expression! Take care.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Yes, feels really good to be back. Being sick sucks. Thanks for watching!
Ohhhh I went there about 10 years ago and loved it!! I should check it out again...thank you!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Yes! Hopefully you enjoy your return trip! Thanks for watching!
Happy you are back and doing better. Great review! Keep up the excellent review. Be safe. 👍🇺🇸
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Thank you! Feels good to be back. Plenty more on the way! Thanks for watching!
Thanks Shin! The steak and crab roll looked like what I’m gonna do in September . Thanks my man wife’s an I can’t wait lol Good job Sir !
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
You got it Kyle! I hope you have a blast this September! Thanks for watching!
Best looking cheeseburger ever. Have to get it on next trip out
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Really good cheeseburger! I liked that one. Thanks for watching!
❤❤❤❤EVERY RESTAURANT IS A BUFFET IF YOU WILLING TO PAY ❤❤❤❤❤ Thank you for all the HONEST True feedback and review !!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I'm happy that you're liking the content. I just call it like I taste it. Thanks for watching!
I guess I am a 52 year old child but when you said “it felt really good when I forked it” I cracked up. lol
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I was having this conversation with a friend's dad recently and he told me while his body felt 70, in his mind he was still 28 years old and that really hit for me. So I'll probably still be giggling at fart jokes in 30 years. Thanks for watching!
Oh wow Shin! I love this menu and the food you featured. Agree about the fried chicken. Those crab claws looked so delicious. I have heard and seen so much about them but never tried them. YUM. Also loved the vib in the restaurant. A must try. Karla in Cali.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
The stone crab claws were really tasty and that mustard sauce for it was perfection. Really good. Thanks for watching Karla!
Another one to add to my ever-growing list of restaurants to try when in Vegas. Literally everything that you ordered looked great except for that fried chicken. I’ll be there in a month and thanks to you Shin I have way too many new choices. Great review!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I hope you have a great trip! A month away will be here before you know it. Thanks for watching Diane!
FIRST!!! Go Shin, happy to have you healthy and back on these adventures
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Great to be back! Thanks for watching!
Also in Miami, FL as well.. One day, it will be a day trip hopefully soon.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
So I've heard! Miami would be nice to visit. Thanks for watching!
I love your reviews. I miss having money left for groceries. I eat my tuna and noodles watching you eat.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching!
Looked almost like a medium well steak, for that price that shouldn’t happen, great review!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
It was definitely under from medium well but it was a far throw from mid-rare, that's for sure. Thanks for watching!
Welcome back buddy 🤗...surprised to see a few misses 😮....but overall, all the choices looked amazingly delicious 👍...great pick for your dessert 😂...I love key lime pie 😋...have a great weekend and Father's Day to all your viewers...see you on Tues 😘🤗❤
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
A few misses but overall a good meal here. Thanks for watching Jade!
I hope u and your family had a good time at the restaurant. Plus did they enjoy their food that they eat so they didn't want to be on camera with u. God bless always Baltimore MD 🙏 😊😮
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
We definitely enjoyed our time. Yeah, my family doesn't want to be on camera so they just come along for the food. Thanks for watching!
🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹 Another fire video love the positivity as always
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Appreciate that! Thanks for watching!
Great review. Thanks!
@VegaswithShin
5 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching!
Nice review. I am undecided about this restaurant. Thanks, take care.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! Lots of restaurants in Vegas so not every one of them is a must try but I would probably go to Joe's just for that key lime pie again lol. Thanks for watching Karen!
Great video as always! The grilled seafood platter looked amazing!
@VegaswithShin
Күн бұрын
Thanks brother!
My coworker loves to come here. I would definitely get some of those stone crab claws and probably that king crab roll. Those looks really good.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I was really happy with both of them. Tasty stuff. Thanks Jerry!
This looks amazing. We wanted to eat here when we stayed. Just don’t have enough time. Thanks for the review!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Sounds like you need to make a return visit! Thanks for watching!
Great Vid Crazy Strip Prices
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! Yep, prices on the strip aren't going anywhere it seems. Thanks for watching!
Love all of your videos. Joe's has two signature dishes I wish you could of tried. Jumbo Alaskan king crab served chilled that are cut up tableside and the Dover Sole deboned tableside with a brown butter. Please come back for dinner and try those dishes. Keep up the great work 👍 👏
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Ah, I will have to try them the next time then! Thanks for watching!
I always love the quality of your reviews and your ability to describe its taste down to the minutiae detail! Love your work, can't wait for the next 😋
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I'm happy you're enjoying the videos and my style! Thanks for watching!
Looks amazing! I'll have to put it on my list! I'm just catching up on your videos. Our move to Nashville is complete now so I've got time to watch everything I have missed. Thank you for all that you do Shin!
@VegaswithShin
6 күн бұрын
Congrats on your move Ruth! My videos will always be here waiting! Thanks for watching!
We love Joe’s.. I love taking my family there for a great dinner when we go to Vegas! Never had a bad meal… it’s a little pricy but considering it’s Vegas pretty much what you would expect to pay at a seafood/ steak restaurant. 😊
@VegaswithShin
3 күн бұрын
Well said! About standard pricing for the strip but a very good restaurant. Thanks for watching!
Food looked amazing❤
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Really tasty! Thanks for watching!
Love the channel!!! Keep them coming!!!!!!
@VegaswithShin
18 сағат бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
My favorite restaurant in Vegas!
@VegaswithShin
17 сағат бұрын
It's a good one!! Thanks for watching!
Great content again. Total pro reviews.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Much appreciated! Thanks for watching!
Well Happy Birthday or anniversary to whomever is celebrating ($12.95 discount on bill)! I have eaten here and of course it was delicious. I will have to try the Havana pie next time as that looked amazing. My critique would have to be presentation of the food. Very plain and not exactly too exciting. As the saying goes….We eat with our eyes and this was not the case at this restaurant. Even the Key Lime pie was just served on a plain “diner” type plate. I have eaten a zillion versions of key lime pie having lived in Florida for years, so a good Key Lime pie is always appreciated. Thank you! 😊
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I think they just used the birthday code to comp the dessert lol. I agree that presentation is not their strong suite, but the food was good. Thanks for watching!
OMG food looked sooooo good ! Burger, fried chicken, steak = food heaven!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
It was very tasty! I liked the food at Joe's. Thanks for watching!
Yes you explain everything….its as if you take us with you … can taste it xx love from uk
@VegaswithShin
18 сағат бұрын
Happy to have you along! Thanks for watching!
Stone crab claws with mustard sauce are a lovely treat!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I agree! It was so tasty! Thanks for watching Lucia!
Been there. Yum 🦀🦀
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Really tasty yes! Thanks for watching!
Here in DC, my husband and I meet at Joe’s occasionally for lunch (it’s in between both of our offices) - the herb roasted chicken is a sleeper hit - and the leftovers the next day in a sandwich are the best!
@VegaswithShin
6 күн бұрын
I was eyeing the roasted chicken but went fried instead. Maybe that was a mistake. Thanks for watching!
Dear Las Vegas, Please continue to create more restaurants so that we get neverending Shin and his superlative reviews and productions. Most sincerely, Everybody
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
By my estimates I still got another 8 years to go so plenty of time lol. Thanks for watching!
When I saw the chicken I thought looks dry. Good review Shin
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Yeah, it was unfortunate. I love a good fried chicken and it was not hitting this day. Thanks for watching!
If you order medium rare and get it served medium I think you should send it back, especially at a great high end steakhouse like Joes. They will be happy to make it right for you. Also I noticed in the video with your steak you got some of Joes special seasoning. You should put just a little bit on your steak next time you visit. Its really awesome.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
If I was off camera I would, but by then it was already 3 hours deep and I was so full that the thought of waiting for them to re-fire a steak and trying it again later is too much. We actually got a can of the seasoning to go it was very good. Thanks for watching!
I've never had a meal at Joe's in Vegas but been to the original location in Miami a few times and it's excellent. Shin, if you're ever in Miami, go get a meal there!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I'll keep an eye out if I ever find myself in Miami. Thanks for watching!
One of the BEST steak houses in vegas
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
All that food looked great. Will you adopt me for 24 hours? Hey buddy.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
LOL! Get the papers ready! Thanks mafatone!
Glad Shin is back. 😃 That fried chicken looked out of place 😅. Everything is else looked delicious. That potato leonaise is enough for a meal. I actually prefer crab over lobster.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I'm happy to be back as well. Tasty food here for sure. Thanks for watching!
Thank you, shin . Don't ever change sir , always count on you for a real thorough review. 2 take aways here; must try stonw cran and lobster roll. Maybe keylime pie and the soup if you have extra room 😅
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I'm glad you enjoy my style! I just try to call it like I taste it. The stone crab and crab rolls were really good! Thanks for watching!
Nice work Shinn
@VegaswithShin
6 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
Great video Shin. I especially like the more up scale restaurants you visit. There was a lot there i would like. Too bad they over grilled the rib eye(I think I would have sent it back).
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
If I was off camera and not already feeling really full, I would have sent it back. But for videos, I just keep it as is. Thanks for watching!
I've heard about this on espn radio for years, looking forward to see what you think!
We ate there April 30 of this year and everything was delicious that night. Oysters Rockerfella were great. Stone crab claws were delish and our filets were perfection. Loved the thin cracker bread too.
@VegaswithShin
5 күн бұрын
Yes! I'm happy to hear you enjoyed your meal. I did as well! Thanks for watching +
Nice❤😊
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
I have been to Joe's several times and I absolutely love it. Not sure what happened to your grilled seafood platter and fried chicken 🤔. Have had both a few times and were delicious. Hopefully you would give them a chance again. If they have the corn as a seasonal side try it. You won't be disappointed. Thanks for the review.
@VegaswithShin
6 күн бұрын
Could have just been an issue with the day. Hard to nail perfection daily. I'll keep the corn in mind! Thanks for watching!
Joe's is our favorite restaurant in Vegas. Glad you enjoyed it as well. Interesting about the sea bass. My wife wanted to get it last time and the waiter didn't recommend it. For an off-Strip place, have you been to Dupars at Suncoast? Best pancakes I've ever had, seriously. Better than Blueberry Hill or Peppermill. Thanks for all of your great videos!
@VegaswithShin
6 күн бұрын
The glaze was a bit on the saltier side but the fish itself was great and well prepared. I liked it. I have not been to Dupars yet. I rarely make my way to that side of town but I'll check it out! Thanks for watching!
Just curious what your background is? Are you a chef by trade? To the common person (me) you are very articulate and express your experience in a way that really makes it come to life. Keep up the great work!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I have no professional culinary experience. Just a home cook. I did scoop ice cream for Haagan-Dazs in higschool and I was a server/host at Denny's through college. Thanks for watching!
@austin5640
7 күн бұрын
Wow! Well you are a natural then!
When Joes Stone Crab opened in Miami it was considered an affordable bar/restaurant. Stone crab is more expensive than lobster today.
@VegaswithShin
4 күн бұрын
It is certainly not an affordable restaurant in Vegas. Some top tier pricing here on the strip. Thanks for watching!
ok that is the best dessert menu I have seen yet.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Can't go wrong with good homemade pies! Thanks for watching!
I wish they would bring a Joes Prime Steak and Stone Crab to Myrtle Beach SC. We have New York Prime but I would eat at Joe's first if they were here.
@VegaswithShin
5 күн бұрын
Yeah, only a handful of locations in the United States. Sounds like it's time for another visit to Vegas!
Thanks Shin! I appreciate you got a cheeseburger & fried chicken! I also like how you usually try the fish and in the last couple videos it seems to be a winner! Any thoughts of trying fancy salads? I saw on this menu they had one almost $40! #intrigued Thank you for all your content! 🎉
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I've just never been a salad person so I feel like every review would be mediocre at best lol. Thanks for watching!
@independencestnola
7 күн бұрын
@@VegaswithShin always good to know thy self!
Grew up in Miami Beach five minutes from the original Joe's stone crab restaurant loved to go in after the dinner rush and just pig out on the stoners.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
That sounds awesome! I would go nuts on those stone crab claws. Thanks for watching!
hey shin, I think i'm gonna see you at the corner of eastern and the 95 with a sign in your hand after this review. lol get that OT at work!!!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
LOL! Thankfully I was still able to keep my wallet after this meal. Thanks for watching!
Food looked great, though the portions sizes were a bit small for the price. That king crab roll looked yums.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
The king crab roll was so good. Portions could be a bit bigger though I agree. Thanks for watching!
Happy to see you returning to the world of the living. Hope you made a full recovery. Of course when you get the bill for this meal you may need to sell a kidney, be sure to keep us updated on how that goes.
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
Thank you! So far, so good. Taste buds seem to be working and I have a mild latent cough from time to time but I think I've made more or less a full recovery. Thanks for watching!
Hi Shin I hope you're Better now I Have had the Crab Bisque Before there it is good!
@VegaswithShin
17 сағат бұрын
Yes feeling much better thank you!
Great content like usual Shin. I've binge watched about 40 episodes today,starting with the oldest content. Keep it up and SUBSCRIBE TO THIS FELLA!!
@VegaswithShin
7 күн бұрын
I'm happy to hear you're enjoying the videos! Many more on the way. Thanks for watching!
Stone Crab was one of my favorite seafood options when I lived in Florida for 9 years. How do they have Stone Crab now? Stone Crab season in Florida is from Oct 15 to May 1 so those must have been frozen so they can't be fresh?
@VegaswithShin
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That's a good question. I couldn't tell you as I have no idea. Thanks for watching!