Y’all really gonna sit here and say watch the throne only had 3 good songs? I’m sick

@earlstarks4930

10 ай бұрын

Yes

@colepitt2184

10 ай бұрын

Yes we are. Get well soon 🙏🏾

@thatraspyshxt

10 ай бұрын

The whole album has crazy replay value. Far from my opinion. It is a fact.

@dominicthomas1927

10 ай бұрын

Facts. My favourite rap album ever

@Bobsagget144

10 ай бұрын

@@earlstarks4930prime time, the joy, ham, no church in the wild, Otis, gotta have it, illest mfs alive..??? You niggas are idiots

Watch The Throne is absolutely a classic. I know all the lyrics front to back. It’s an album for winners.

@velvetblue2285

10 ай бұрын

Big facts!!

Otis, New Day, Niggas in Paris, Murder to Excellence, That my Bitch, H.A.M, Nah ICESPICE is bugging that album is a classic by now. Especially since we're NEVER getting a Yeezy and Hov collab album again. Classic Moment AND classic album in HipHop.

@jasongrace4005

2 күн бұрын

Classic moment not a classic album. And That's My Bitch is thrash

@2w0nGranTurismo

2 күн бұрын

@@jasongrace4005 ur opinion dont speak for me

Saying watch the throne isn’t a classic is proving people didn’t listen to it

@greg20423

10 ай бұрын

People did they just didn’t like it bro it’s not that hard to believe

@keithnicholson1852

10 ай бұрын

@@greg20423 people not being able to explain why they didn’t like it is even harder to believe.

@greg20423

10 ай бұрын

@@keithnicholson1852 not everyone is a music aficionado, majority are casual listeners who won’t give you a deep dive on why they don’t like the song they’ll just say it didn’t sound good which is why genres exist

@dominicthomas1927

10 ай бұрын

Exactly

@kashifwill11

10 ай бұрын

An album doesn’t have to be considered a classic for it to be a good album. WTT isn’t a classic and ye and hov are 1a and 1b on my list🤷🏾‍♂️

“The Infamous!” That’s a classic hip hop album. Timeless, I was 22 when that ish dropped, now at 50 I’m still bumping it!

@jaybee1341

9 ай бұрын

Facts...& 'HELL ON EARTH' gets played straight after 🔥 🔥 🔥

Ice might be the most honest person on the pod when he's giving you his opinion about something!

@Steven-sd2zi

10 ай бұрын

Flip?

@izzy_bozay

10 ай бұрын

@@Steven-sd2zi Flip is Parks 3.0! Don't get it twisted tho I love mfn Parks! That's my guy! 💯

Of course Parks had to find a way to agree with joe

@ViolenceCity

10 ай бұрын

Parks been said that.

@Banger_Fire

10 ай бұрын

"he's paid well."

@jaminhodges3123

10 ай бұрын

@@Banger_Fire lol

@dylonvr9595

10 ай бұрын

Parks has to find a way to say a classic album is a classic? That’s crazy.

Shout out to Ice for always standing on his square!

@oumardiallo7701

10 ай бұрын

Standing on dumb square is hardly a flex

@TwoH.Q

10 ай бұрын

@@oumardiallo7701Exactly! Ice and Rashad McCants have the worst takes on the internet.

@Steven-sd2zi

10 ай бұрын

The problem I have with his takes is that he never gives a real reason. He just says that's how I feel and it makes me think he doesn't think things through

@j3ts0n86

10 ай бұрын

@@Steven-sd2zi his explanation definitely wasn’t a good one 😂. He said it can be classic for everyone else, just not him. 💀

@izzy_bozay

10 ай бұрын

@@TwoH.Q RM be so fvckin emotional! 🤦🏾‍♂️

Watch the Throne was pretty mid…the hype of them two collaborating fell super flat wit subpar bars and minimal effort. The names made the project better than it actually was.

“Name 6 songs from the album”… Is a great way to test an album.

@101PointBlank101

10 ай бұрын

Not really. It's a great way to test memories. Get Rich Or Die Tryin is a certified classic - and I know the songs but I wouldn't be able to name/list "song titles"

@izzy_bozay

10 ай бұрын

Not always. I might not be able to name 6 songs on whatever album I consider classic. But once you start playing album I'm rapping damn near word for word the majority of that album. Example: Juvenile - 400 Degrees

@ryanhumor

10 ай бұрын

@@101PointBlank101 I obviously don’t know you and somehow I’m pretty sure you can name 6 songs from that album.

@ryanhumor

10 ай бұрын

@@izzy_bozay True. 400🔥. Damn. Thats a great example and I think it emphasizes the point Ice is trying to make. Is 400 degrees a classic because the “culture” says it’s a classic OR is it a classic because YOU actually consider it a classic. I think if YOU consider it a classic in your personal archive - you could name six songs. IMO.

@izzy_bozay

10 ай бұрын

@@ryanhumor Glad you caught my main point! And 400 Degrees is a classic to me because of me, not the culture! 👍🏾💯

Watch the Throne is absolutely a classic.

@iamhim5635

10 ай бұрын

Stop it! Nobody ever put that album when they name good Jay or Ye albums.

@qthe6thman

10 ай бұрын

It wasn't and it's not lmao

@YoungRelay

10 ай бұрын

Naw. A great album

@yoninja9164

10 ай бұрын

Its a great album but no classic. I consider an album a classic 10 to 20 years from now we still might bump it. I doubt 10 to 20 years from now anybody is going to be listening to that.

@whyareyoureadingthiis886

10 ай бұрын

Niggas call anything classics

ice be making the most valid points and joe just trys to change the topic

@devingibson4

10 ай бұрын

I can’t hear nobody talk music that says the chronic not a classic.

Damn Shame we gotta Watch this Twice 😂😂😂

@CodeRed1991

10 ай бұрын

We ?!?!? Maybe you shouldn't be so addicted to his show.

I kinda agreed with ICE and felt the same when the album dropped. It’s a lot more of a classic moment that a classic sonically

@cameronwilson472

10 ай бұрын

I just wrote a speech in the comments but I think you changed my mind when you said sonically. But then, I remembered the song Lift Off, bout to listen to it now lol

@HandMeDeals

10 ай бұрын

It aint common how I got to fight in pieces, when niggas in the comment writin speeches - Jay Z

@ethermac9015

10 ай бұрын

@@HandMeDeals 🚮

@ocampbell1954

10 ай бұрын

If you went to the show your opinion would change. It's an album made to be seen in concert. It has a epic feel to it.

@ethermac9015

10 ай бұрын

@@ocampbell1954 never seen them perform it in concert. Just going off the music sonically.

WTT is an absolute CLASSIC !!! Jay & Ye went hard, and the beats were fire

What Ice said at 5:00 is what’s happening with a lot of Drake latest albums. He be having 4/5 commercial hits out of 15-20 songs and they call it a classic

@raymon2319

10 ай бұрын

how many commercial hits do you need on an album? lmao

@bondbarrybonds5774

10 ай бұрын

There’s a lot of classic albums that don’t have 4-5 commercial hits

@MapleGlazedDonuts

10 ай бұрын

​@@raymon2319the problem is when the remaining 10-15 songs are 🗑️

@mmbeas

10 ай бұрын

@@MapleGlazedDonuts Exactly, you get it.

@mmbeas

10 ай бұрын

@@bondbarrybonds5774 I understand that. My point is that they claim Drake albums classic because of the commercial hit, and not the album as a whole.

Unpopular opinion: Ice gotta point

@blackspiderman4766

10 ай бұрын

Lol cap

@izzy_bozay

10 ай бұрын

​@@blackspiderman4766No it's not!

@izzy_bozay

10 ай бұрын

That's a fact!

@cancelledmedia

10 ай бұрын

Fr! Always thought this

@Itsthecreative

10 ай бұрын

Popular take: That's cap

TF is ICE talking about. WTT had people running around with Don C hats, Givenchy Rottweiler Shirts, we got producers like HitBoy and Singers like Frank Ocean. Culturally WTT is a classic, sound wise, style wise, lyrics wise

@mickeysmoove4562

10 ай бұрын

The Album did NOT have ppl wearing that shyt, it was already in style lol

Ice is absolutely right

You can definitely name 6 songs off that album…that was crazy

That album made me cry as a teen. WTT was a CLASSIC!

@Mic-100

9 ай бұрын

Which songs? Lol

@adaml5693

12 күн бұрын

​@@Mic-100 i also want to know

WTT is definitely a classic

@advanced8998

10 ай бұрын

No it's not lmao

I actually agree that it's a classic 'moment' because the actual album itself as a body of work surprisingly hasn't been heard by many people*

@beeg_markfitness6706

10 ай бұрын

*surprisingly...

@cookiecrumble2098

10 ай бұрын

@@beeg_markfitness6706 Autocorrect mate… 🙂

@jdro2776

10 ай бұрын

What messed it up was that Kanye didn't even produce on it like that

@deeharp

10 ай бұрын

wasn't it One of the last albums to "Real" Platinum"? You know actually sell a million records. Or are NYC people being exposed and yall dont even listen to your own Music Anymore.

Not being able to name 6 songs off watch the throne and being on a hip hop podcast don’t align

I’ll rap the entire watch the throne word for word

The irony that I just played “New Day” like three time in a row the other day. I’ve gotta chill

Where the hell do you find the full episode?

“I ain’t watching the, throne I’m sabotaging it” - Number 3

@eliminator173

10 ай бұрын

"If they're teaching how to dougie, im condoning dropping out"

*If "Think For Yourself" was a person it would 100% be Ice aka Biig Freeze!*

100 with ice on this. You don’t have to feel everything people feel is a classic and you don’t have to have a big reason for it either

Ice don’t know music 😂 he’s just playing the part. How are you not able to explain why you like or dislike something. Sometimes it’s hard for sheep’s to form their own opinion when you follow the crowd for so long

Vince stuck the landing 😂

ICE MAKES ME MAD WHEN HE DONT EXPLAIN HIS MUSIC TAKE😂

@LembeckIsStaying

10 ай бұрын

Exactly. It's not his takes/opinions. It's the fact that it's just "don't like it". 😂😂😂 That's like me saying Rhianna ain't fine, niggas gonna have questions.

@LoadedClips

10 ай бұрын

Why do he have to have an explanation? Lol. Sometimes people don’t like things, and they may or may not have a reason why. It’s just not for them.

@izzy_bozay

10 ай бұрын

He don't have to explain himself! Tf?!

@pearcemark2

10 ай бұрын

@@LembeckIsStayingI mean….maybe for a black chick.

@MYG0ODNESS

10 ай бұрын

@@izzy_bozay Baby his job is to talk 😂😂

Vince Staples with the comedy relief

Ice was spittin 🤷🏿‍♂️

This caused a huge discussion on Reddit. I can see his point. It has some classic songs but I personally rock with their individual catalogue harder. I delineate good, classic albums.

@Dizzinator2114

10 ай бұрын

Same for example I don’t think tha Carter 3 is a classic album, but I do think it’s good and people have taken issue with me saying that.

@argeecrowell2502

10 ай бұрын

I consider Dark Fantasy a classic & liked it more than WTT. I'd give WTT 🎤🎤🎤🎤 though.

Three good songs on a album don’t make it a classic

@shyne1308

10 ай бұрын

You only liked 3 songs?

@masterlong100

10 ай бұрын

4*

@greyya.k.a9761

10 ай бұрын

@@shyne1308 yes

@tommygauthier3250

10 ай бұрын

​@@shyne13082, I didn't really like Otis.

@shyne1308

10 ай бұрын

@@greyya.k.a9761 ok

I disagree with Ice, I can explain any opinion I have. If I can't explain myself, I say I don't know enough about that specific topic. I don't like when people down things for no reason, even if I don't like the thing myself.

@LoadedClips

10 ай бұрын

He didn’t down the album though. He just said it wasn’t a classic to him.

Vince was like i wasn't born when the chronic came out same i wasn't born to

I’m so ready for the new podcast episode. I’ve been refreshing my shit all day lol just praying they put one out today because it’s the 7th so y’all been off on vacation for 2 days now! Lol I love the pod!

Watch The Throne is a good album I don't think it's a classic though.

Yall N'gs said the 1st through the fif...yall took a REAL vacation..looking forward to the first ep back

Ice might be the biggest 🤡 on this show for his music and sports takes. Smh.

@iinntthhuu

10 ай бұрын

why? he articulated his thought process perfectly at 5:22 and no one had any rebuttal to it

@gunnyo50

10 ай бұрын

Ice is clearly bugging. Many ppl can name classic albums without naming 6 tracks from their favourite albums, it doesn't negate that album it's classic status. Ice to me has too much recency bias even with his Lauren Hill takes and his music takes on the podcast at times is dodgy at best.

*0:02**-**0:13* Championships _is_ Meek's best album as a whole. He outdid himself with that Collins intro. 💯 (The real truth to walk away with from this video.)

I hope Joe was playing when he said it was better than The Chronic

@Raiderfred

10 ай бұрын

I thought I heard him say that he lost his damn mind ain’t no album they ever put out is better than the chronic 1 and 2

@Lkb2411

10 ай бұрын

That’s another album that’s overrated and not a classic 😴

Classic albums to me are albums that either doesn’t have skips or maybe 1-2 skips. The album also has to age well. Now some people will say it’s based on the culture at large recognizing it as a classic.

Watch The Throne is a classic album of that time it dropped for sure, but that also was a time where a lot of quality albums and mixtapes were getting dropped(Sorry 4 The Wait dropped around the same time I think). I grew up in San Bernardino CA, nowhere near NYC or Chi but me and my homies bumped that shit and everyone else in the city. You couldn't go anywhere without hearing Watch the Throne, Sorry 4 The Wait or Rich Forever

@khosta6690

10 ай бұрын

And Carter 4

It’s not a classic and I hate Ice music takes but he 100% correct on this one

American Gangster was definitely what made me look at him neutrally, but I do enjoy him now as an adult. That album was the reason.

@izzy_bozay

10 ай бұрын

I like American Gangster waaay more than WTT. Hov was in his bag & that production was top tier!

@tookacates9675

10 ай бұрын

It's kingdom come is jay best work hands down

To me it’s a top 5 most important album of the 2010’s

This is why the world seems to spin faster every second. Can’t even have your own opinion w/o muhfuckahs thinking you hating 🤦🏾‍♂️ Be you Ice‼️💯

Joe Budden adding cohost like his life depended on it. 7+ mfers in a room to make a podcast!

Ice saying “I’m not trolling” is him trolling.

You never have an album like that again unless jcole and kdot drop something ridiculous. Over 10 years. Its a classic

If you're in the business of discussing the quality of things and giving your opinion on other's work, it's nice to be able to understand a person's reasoning for liking or not liking something. Without a way to understand, even if we agree in general we can't be confident we agree for the same reasons. It's easier to do when the thing being discussed is technical, rigid. Things like music are harder to articulate, but if you're skillful you should be able to. Doesn't mean you'll change hearts and minds, but at least those that care to can understand why they do or don't agree, if they care.

Clique dropped in 2012 produced by Hit-Boy.... They did not start beefing right after WTT. lol

Naming all classics to only New York rappers is wild

100% with Ice. Watch the Throne was a memorable moment but the music they gave us was just ok.

@mroctober3583

10 ай бұрын

Exactly it was mid but Joe goes for name value over substance

@MrTim818

10 ай бұрын

Exactly!!!!

@Ren-rd5xy

10 ай бұрын

Otis and niggas in Paris The music ages well

@mroctober3583

10 ай бұрын

@@Ren-rd5xy neither of them aged well

@Vipa567

10 ай бұрын

@@Ren-rd5xy Niggas in Paris has not aged well and Otis only did because of the timeless sample.

I meeeeeaaaan kinda got point...i think we first got to define a classic…for me it's for every 10 songs, 9 maybe 8 gotta be bangers 🔥 🔥 🔥.if not its just good

Could you do a podcast about Lauryn Hill being the recipient and what artist could be on a mic for a BET Awards performance name 4 songs and which R&B Women to R&B Men performers at the end of June

That’s crazy !!! The lines of songs, Ye n Jay together.

Nah it’s a classic they brought back top rappers collaborating on an album and dropped a great project

it took me 6mins to realize vince staples was even there

How you can’t verbalize that you like or dislike a song. 🙄

Murder to excellence, joy, lift off, who gone stop me, no church in the wild, Otis, niggas in Paris off the top. Hella replay value

My favourite tracks from Watch the Throne: Gotta Have It Murder to Excellence New Day No Church in the Wild Welcome to the Jungle Prime Time and The Joy if counting deluxe.

Ice music takes have him batting about .195 😂😂

I respect ice for standing by his opinion even though it be wild sometime lol

Did the math Vince staples was made when chronic can out 😅😅

Ice don’t have the voice, the face or the attitude for a podcast. Especially this one.

@Lboogs7

10 ай бұрын

I dont know about the fact part i couldn't care less but his takes are pretty lame and boring

Ice just be saying shit to troll lol

That slow moving camera technique bugged me out I'm dizzy now.

I can't even imagine relying on a lil dude for music info.💀

Watch the Throne is overrated af

*Love ice but “Watch the Throne” is a classic bro*

Can y’all address the Spectrum (Time Warner) ESPN scandal

Ice tryna be the music Skip Bayless 😂😂😂

Y’all crazy. Watch the throne is for sure a classic. The sounds they used and the flow they had with each other. Pfft. Buggin.

Bueller had a Muller, but I switched it for a Mille 'Cause I’m richer, and prior to this shit, was movin' free base

I don't know what's wrong with you people in the comments Watch the thrown is a absolute classic i can listen to every single song right now and it still bangs

@moloperams

10 ай бұрын

They are trying to be "different" I think it's one the best produced hip hop albums of all time. The production was insane.

I agree with Ice

Ice buggin Mobb depp infamous is a classic 🔥🔥 no skips on that album and I’m a west coast fan.

When ever Ice has a opinion different from Joes or Flipz then the consider it “trolling” cause they are egomaniacs…that’s all lol

You don't have to think watch the throne is not a classic but it is.

Lol i actually named six songs from WTT

Naming names of songs means nothing most people don’t remember the names the song but remember the music

Watch the thorn is a FUCK!NG CLASSIC!!!

Flip aka Greaseburger on a one year contract? What's the over under on him coming back?

That head on the album looks crazy

Ice out his mind. He also said Gucci took Cole on they new song. 🤦🏾

Na dont try to play big freeze because he kinda had a point.. it was a classic moment more than a classic album

@kaywess1738

10 ай бұрын

Ayyye! I love your channel, keep up the amazing work! 💯🤍

@ViolenceCity

10 ай бұрын

10+ years of influence is a moment?

@GoodClipsTV

10 ай бұрын

​@@kaywess1738❤ thanks

Ice is right about WTT and Frank Ocean. "Sweet mother Mary... Sweet brother Malcom" who wants to hear that more than once

Watch throne is in a classic it was a moment it had two or three memorable songs but even when I was 15 when it came out it came and went.

I'm listening to it right now.

Watch the throne ain’t no damn classic

Whose album is called Championship ?

@izzy_bozay

10 ай бұрын

They was talking bout Meek.

Albert Einstein ~ if you can’t explain it to a six year old, you don’t understand it yourself

It was ahead of it’s time

Only way I can listen to WTT front to back is chopped -n-screwed!

It’s was a great moment not a classic