Meek was beginning to approach that upper echelon when Dreams Worth More than Money went number#1, sold like 250K first week, he was dating Nicki. Bro had it all goin. Then he tweeted...

@therealgunner5488

Жыл бұрын

That's a part of the beef that is overlooked. Meek was on the ascension by the time he made those tweets. Drake was pretty much forced to engage in a battle, eliminating competition as an incentive while also establishing his street credibility. It was also marketing not just a beef.

@Stonecoldalston

Жыл бұрын

Some People are just self destructive this ain't his first time neither like when He went off on wale for not posting about his album

@christianbuissereth6608

Жыл бұрын

Exactly and since than it’s still his best album to date- Sonically that album was put well together and mastered. Just after the beef he left sour taste behind smh till this day I still remember telling people DO YOU NOT HEAR THIS ALBUM!?!?! But because of that beef people didn’t even want to give meek a chance

@mrbigzz3985

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and the powers that be in the machine happened not drake drake was a tool to use Drake didn’t even write back to back is it a world Tour or ya girls tour that’s what they say was the point that standed out garbage rubbish Drake has a League of riders a whole F in team of riders but that’s not even the sad part drink don’t read lyrics off of a paper no he learned songs that were previously recorded for him and then re-record them that’s even sadder and all he do is have the best production the best everything sound wise And the sheep dick riding fans run with it do they put fake numbers out on this guy saying he saw more than what it was these days absolutely he’s trash watch a Drake freestyle versus a Meek freestyle meek shit be way hotter All my Niggas in Toronto don’t fuck with that dude it’s crazy and America sucks drink dick Canada don’t even fuck with him unless they are industry people who are afraid to speak up or you’ll end up like X

@StunnaShowtime

Жыл бұрын

Yep, this the one

Drake doesn't see Meek as his equal, and that's the only reason they "made up." Drake doesn't see him as a threat.

@backends1749

Жыл бұрын

Neither does meek

@fredericksumner3499

Жыл бұрын

Good point cuz he still can’t stand kendrick and kendrick can’t stand him

They only equal in terms on time in the rap game I think drake respects meek but we all know drake On his own planet

@damienhawkes5001

Жыл бұрын

Why is drake on his own planet simply because of sales because if you look at the landscape of rap…all of the younger rappers look up to meek you can clearly see it and what is the focal point bars wise in rap now not living your ex and bringing your first girlfriend on the stage 🤷🏽‍♂️ he’s influencing who….streaming giant but influencing who exactly

@lulanokonwo6274

Жыл бұрын

@@damienhawkes5001 bro meek is not better then drake sdfu you sound slow Ngga 😂😂😂😂😂 on no planet not on a Monday or Tuesday.

@damienhawkes5001

Жыл бұрын

@@lulanokonwo6274 meek is a better RAPPER COLE IS KENDRICK IS FAB IS I can go on but I won’t drake sells the most Goofy ass 🤨 skills wise he is not better put them both in the booth put a beat on he will smoke Aubrey fuck you talking

@kikoferras7369

Жыл бұрын

@@damienhawkes5001 "all of the younger rappers look up to meek" Did you actually do a survey? Did you decide to live out all of the rappers who have said that they were influenced by Drake? lol dummy

Meek is like I got a billionaire friend Drake is like I am a billionaire

Drake & meek were never competition, drake was always a bigger artist than meek

@toolegit7668

Жыл бұрын

In fairness Drake had a head start. I mean Ima Boss video dropped in 2011, Drake was on Take Care by then. And at one point Drake became more of a pop act so it's hard to just compare them rapper to rapper

@travisantoine248

Жыл бұрын

Wtf bro drake was always bigger than meek...fuck you tlkin abt....

@thel.akhalil1249

Жыл бұрын

@@toolegit7668 a pop act out rapped a street battle rapper

@toolegit7668

Жыл бұрын

@@thel.akhalil1249 not the point bro. Drake was already a legendary mixtape, the YM album, and 2 solos albums in by the time Meek's first hit single broke. Meek was a class or 2 after Drake's. And once Drake became a pop star it would be hard to compare him to a rapper. That rapper would have to attain J Cole or Kendrick type popularity.

@yvstla6763

Жыл бұрын

@@toolegit7668 Drake didn’t “become a pop act” rap became the new pop music and Drake being the biggest rapper by default became a pop star

Drake showed us it’s levels to this shit

Well, Meek mill is nowhere near Drake's level (records sold, hits, awards, Influence, views, streams, popularity, money, etc), so regardless of how he sees meek, Drake is simply at a much higher level and it's not even close. Only rappers competing with Drake are either retired or too old (Jay, Em, Ye, Wayne)

@cdlyricalgenius

Жыл бұрын

they’re not competing with drake 😂😂😂😂 drake would be competing with him & y’all kids are stupid if we’re in the same rooms were on the same level because at that point it’s about relationships….of course you wouldn’t comprehend that

@mrbigzz3985

Жыл бұрын

They say men lie women lie but the numbers don’t The numbers are controlled by man if you control the industry and you were against me why would I put your real selves out

@mariejane1567

Жыл бұрын

wayne too old? he's a millennial that started rapping at 10 and is dropping Carter VI soon

@kikoferras7369

Жыл бұрын

@@mariejane1567 Wayne is definitely the one that doesn't necessarily fit those descriptions (Not too old nor retired). But I'd say he's old in terms of how long he's been in the game

@kikoferras7369

Жыл бұрын

@@cdlyricalgenius If you really believe that Meek is on the same level and as Drake (in terms of stardom, money, and achievements) and if your reasoning for believing that is that they occasionally share the same rooms, you're shamelessly lying to yourself.

They don’t go to the same parties. It’s a reason why Drake always talking about Emirates. Them Saudi dudes not linking with meek. They gave him his own plane😂. It’s a difference.

Man that's one of my biggest fears having a shit ton of money and not being able to move the way I wanna move (getting into restaurants etc) that's some low vibration bullshit

Drake has reached a point where he doesn't see anybody as his equal especially his peers. This is why he is friendly with everybody these days. Soon he'll start beefing with billionaires like Elon Musk does

Are we really asking this question 😂😂😂

If we’re talking about ‘EQUALS’ in music then Meek is equal to Drake to an extent of course Drake is better overall but you can’t bring money as the winning argument. That’s like comparing Hov and Nas in bank accounts but not bars.

@lulanokonwo6274

Жыл бұрын

Oh okay okay I see what you mean I didn’t understand the statement

@tatertots0046

Жыл бұрын

Nas has Influence that is comparable to Jay. Meek's influence is not comparable to Drake.

@marlowetv2646

Жыл бұрын

:: Meek cant touch drake as as bars either

@tatertots0046

Жыл бұрын

@Double N theres probably just as many if not "corporate leader" who take Nas word as Gospel as there are for Jay

@not_da2159

Жыл бұрын

tatertots00 What’s Drakes influence meatriding the hot sound? Drake has not culturally influence when it comes to music he’s the one that rides waves lol

Smh ppl just be saying ppl are Billionaires like it’s nothing

Good catch Ice

Drake sees HOV, Wayne, Ye, Diddy as competition

@keezemojito1278

Жыл бұрын

Yup thats prEtty much that, wayne is a unicorn nigga went platinum in 99, carter 6 bout to be platinum in 2022. This some shit we’ve never seen. The influence wayne diddy jay Ye and EM have on the Game is nowhere near the other artist of this industry even lil baby we not even sure if hes gon make it to 10 years in !

We'll never see videos of Drake hopping on a tennis court

@karlwoodberry2768

Жыл бұрын

We’ve seen him do worse for money.

@jefjef601

Жыл бұрын

@@karlwoodberry2768 like what

@sosabelton2164

Жыл бұрын

@@jefjef601 black face for a acting gig I want to say

@jaylanemerson7076

Жыл бұрын

@@sosabelton2164 you mean when he was a child??

@sosabelton2164

Жыл бұрын

@@jaylanemerson7076 no he wasn’t a child lol more so teenage years or before adulthood stop

Which episode is this?

Them white Billionaires literally got Meek Mill hopping around on tennis courts like a toy or something. Haven’t seen Drake doing that. This is an irrelevant comment but yeah

@carter1013

Жыл бұрын

Drake did his when he was younger lol playing g@y characters and doing black face cmon now kid🤡

What episode this

And class have alot to do with it too, no matter how hood Jay claims to be he got class and meek is a long way from, he sticks out when he's around wealth no disrespect. I'm not saying he should change but real Gs move in silent

They are not on the same level , there is no debate.

This on patreon?

Meek is Drakes son.

according to ish, joe shouldnt have viewed Jay-z or Drake as competition

@sosabelton2164

Жыл бұрын

He shouldn’t have. There were in no way competing fam

@JustbeinFrank97

Жыл бұрын

why do think he was left there looking like he was punching the air when he was dissing those two.

@Stonecoldalston

Жыл бұрын

its one thing looking at them as competition like a bar to get to & looking at them as peers

@youtubecommentrater3379

Жыл бұрын

He didn't. He said in his freestyle. Im not watching the throne/ im here to sabotage it All thrones

@JustbeinFrank97

Жыл бұрын

@@youtubecommentrater3379 Joe didn’t sabotage shit but his own rap career cut it out.

Drakes equals are artists like Bad Bunny. Let’s be real now lol

Ish said finances

Meek and drake are on different planes they both attract 2 different crowds. Both goats in their own right. Drake more popular but on the rap tip gotta give it to Meek

Truth be told. Drake is billionaire

If he didn’t he wouldn’t have responded first

Drake wayyy bigger than everybody in the game besides like a JAYZ or Ye if you wanna look at it like that

@keezemojito1278

Жыл бұрын

The BIGGEST artist the Game has Never seen are wayne kanye and hov, thats the fact, wayne was platinum in 99 hes been putting more work hes been THÉ MOST influencal artist to me hes the ultimate goat. And so if you look at the face of hip hop its Ye em wayne hov Drake kendrick

I don't think they know how net worth works.....

I'm sure Meek see Drake as a Peer tho But Of course Drake don't see Meek as a Equal & its more then just Fiances & Influence but also the Billboard Success Joe just like to play Devil Advocate

Fuck no. Why would he. He ain’t equal 😂

Drake is a billionaire or close to it… they different

Meek is a Rapper Drake is a mogul the end

Fuck no without even listening

A couple years ago maybe but tbh he not on drake level or status at all . He can think he a better rapper if he want . And influential meek is more important to the streets but overall he’s not more influential than drake . Ppl purposely try to sound like drake not meek

As far as money they not equal but as far rap circles and the who's who I believe meek and Drake are equals but by y'all logic y'all can't even speak on if meek and Drake on different level or not💯💯

2:45 perfect example of this is How Ye over took Hov

This topic was weird af ngl

Nah ain’t no comp in any way tbh I fw meek more as a rapper but drake comp is niggas like jay-z,Kanye names like tht

Drake only equals if you wanna call them that are Cole and Kendrick that’s it.

Drake is the GOAT 🐐. meek will never be in that conversation, simple.

Influence is why meek is meek stop down playing meek because somebody got more money money ain’t everything. A lot of suckers with money not speaking on drake meek and drake two of my favs stop clashing them together

@kikoferras7369

Жыл бұрын

Meek mill is nowhere near Drake's level: influence, money, hits nothing

@darrellanderson7690

11 ай бұрын

Money is everything and it’s every other thing

Drake didn't seem so powerful when Pusha had Drake on a song cover with black face talking crazy

@kikoferras7369

Жыл бұрын

what does one thing have to do with the other? That was about rap not money, fame or influence. Jay-z was also more powerful than Nas but that didn't stop Nas from hitting him with 'Ether'. Your comment has 100% no correlation with the actual topic

@DD-jx9jd

Жыл бұрын

@@kikoferras7369 It actually does because it doesn't matter how much money Drake has Pusha son'd him. You just proved my point.

@DD-jx9jd

Жыл бұрын

Pusha saw a flaw in his fame and influence and called him out and the boy didn't want to play anymore.

@kikoferras7369

Жыл бұрын

@@DD-jx9jd That's exactly what I'm saying the respect aspect has nothing to do with money. you make no sense here

@kikoferras7369

Жыл бұрын

@@DD-jx9jd "flaw in his fame and influence". what are you talking about?

I gotta say this. Drake absolutely destroyed meek in the battle. It was almost hard to watch. But if you really think about it, nobody really clowns Meek about it anymore. Drake is going to take the “ghostwriters” tag to his grave. When drake is long gone and people look back at his legacy and we start talking about who’s the best all time. No matter how many #1’s he has or money, etc… ppl will always bring up well he used ghost writers so you can’t put him at the very top. In a way, meek lost the battle but won that war.

@Stonecoldalston

Жыл бұрын

Meek still lost the war because he needed Drake to Stamp him again with Going Bad But Drake might not be in no one's top 10 as a Rapper but as a Artist he still will be

@lulanokonwo6274

Жыл бұрын

Who is we????? Tf you mean we when drake is gone nobody I guarantee I put that on my mom ain’t nobody talking about sum goofy ghostwriting accusations I promise you nobody is talkin about that. There gonna talk about the vibe the songs that he did and the songs that made them feel happy ain’t nobody caring bout da shi like so you here ya self..

@thegreat195

Жыл бұрын

@@lulanokonwo6274 the Stans like yourself won’t. Drake can fart on a track and you’re gonna say it’s a vibe. But for objective ppl, if you wanna call yourself the greatest rapper. Proven ghostwriters (it’s not an accusation, it’s proven) is a no no. Plain and simple

@lulanokonwo6274

Жыл бұрын

@@thegreat195 it is an accusation because nobody that has a brain believes drake doesn’t write his music unless they hatin as nggas(like yourself ). Plain an simple and drake ain’t lose shit tf.

@kikoferras7369

Жыл бұрын

I don't know about winning no war when you have to ask the same guy who destroyed you for a hit that will revive your career Drake is only a poster child for that because of his stardom, when a lot of other rappers have had help with their writing at some point in their careers. I'm talking about lyrical spiritual rappers and all. Hiphop fans are just to ignorant to this reality or choose to believe in the fairy-tale that every great MC has written every single bar that he (or she) has every spitted. Not to mention that Drake himself wrote for Wayne, Diddy and Ye before. And even for R&B singers: Alicia keys, Jamie Foxx, Beyonce

Homie a fan girl for drake lol.

@kikoferras7369

Жыл бұрын

saying the truth is fan girling now?

Meek is late to the game. Drake was pushing for that upper echelon status. Meek was just a dude putting out music and riding dirt bikes. Drake was doing snl and tv show appearances. When was the last time you seen meek make a guest appearance on anything? Never. 😂😂😂when was the last time you seen meek do a commercial? Never. Drake was in sprite. Mcdonalds. All state commercial. Didn’t he do a nike commercial?

@mrbigzz3985

Жыл бұрын

Meek was on snl look it up stain

@bkskid

Жыл бұрын

@@mrbigzz3985 yeah but meek was a performer. He didn’t do any skits. And that was three years ago. Meek been in the game how long? And it took him hanging out with billionaires for it to happen

@bkskid

Жыл бұрын

@Double N my point exactly. So its no surprise that meeks not drakes level. All meek wanted was to make his money, have fun and ride dirt bikes.

U guys are friggin hilarious. No drake can tell there prime Minister and say naaaa dog let him in he cool. They don't look to hear from friggin drake the rapper for shhh like that. Yall seriously crazy he is rapper flexing! Just like they all talk crazy shhhh. Its literally nutz for yall to think that's not cap. Like I thought yall were smarter than that

Ish is legit the worst podcaster out there

Meek still standing after all the bullshit if your being honest with yourself back to back was made only for the internet to clown meek only on the internet! I love how ya talk about meek like he dosent exsist in the rap game !! He been in the game 12 plus years sumthing right he has done to be in the game 12 years just say u hate meek ! U wish he wasn’t in the game it’s easier because ya all know Meek still standing thru all the bulshit

When it comes to rapping Meek is way better than Drake. Drake is definitely the bigger artist though

@larrydavid3114

Жыл бұрын

Stop it!!! 🤣🤣🤣.. oh you from Philly so I see why you say that

@not_da2159

Жыл бұрын

Larry David You saw what happened when Drake was told to Freestyle lol that shit was trash. Any hip hop fan knows what I’m saying isn’t outrageous Drake a singer not a rapper

@kikoferras7369

Жыл бұрын

@@not_da2159 Not every rapper can freestyle well, just like not every guy who can freestyle is able to make a dope record. Those are two separate abilities. Two say that Drake is only a singer and not a rapper is stupid when most of his songs and albums are rap and when he has tracks like '5am in Toronto', 'Say What's Real', 'Too Much', 'Asthma Team', 'Survival', '0 to a 100', 7am in Bridle Path, etc You're lying to yourself

Drake is a industry creation like Nicki Minaj and pusha t beefed with Drake and won his influence couldn't help or save him unless meek is willing to be a creation he'll never reach that level

@jfraz1992

Жыл бұрын

The beef did nothing for pusha t, drake still remained big

@NORTH_CAROLINA

Жыл бұрын

@@jfraz1992 yes it did it separated the fake MC's from real MC's pusha t isn't a person that ever cared about being a mega star you don't get to that level off pure talent you have to be industry created an be willing and he wasn't now go sit down you AubreySexual

@keezkeezkeez

Жыл бұрын

@@jfraz1992 that beef got pusha his highest selling album

@MrClevelandMade

Жыл бұрын

@@keezkeezkeez exactly. If he wouldn’t have dissed drake he would have never gotten all that publicly

@user-qd6im2hp2e

Жыл бұрын

meek was signed to ross and managed by roc nation

What episode is this?