Joe Brown - London Railway Atlas ( Interview Chat / No.10 )

Joe Brown is the creator of the superb 'London Rail Atlas', as well as the Birminham Rail Atlas, and the Manchester & Liverpool edition too! I caught up with for an interview/chat, to ask how how he designs something so incredibly detailed, and also his work with 'Journey', an organisation for LGBTQ+ professionals working in the transport sector.
Joe's Rail Atlas is : www.crecy.co.uk/joe-brown
The 'Journey' LGBTQ website : journeylgbtq.wixsite.com/jour...
The S.K.Baker Rail Atlas is also available here: www.amazon.co.uk/Rail-Atlas-G...

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  • @geofftech2
    @geofftech23 күн бұрын

    Altogether now …. “Droftarts” 😊

  • @andyt2510

    @andyt2510

    3 күн бұрын

    Notsue!

  • @fussyboy2000

    @fussyboy2000

    3 күн бұрын

    krapy rub snif

  • @Eddyspeeder

    @Eddyspeeder

    2 күн бұрын

    Ward leroc

  • @T_C_C_C

    @T_C_C_C

    2 күн бұрын

    Are you gonna ride the 759 bus?

  • @grantwest656
    @grantwest6563 күн бұрын

    Joe was my manager on the Bakerloo and he's a really, really nice guy. Never heard a bad word said about him.

  • @PamelaBane
    @PamelaBane3 күн бұрын

    This was such an interesting conversation, I love maps and have a Baker book on the shelf cannot beat a physical handling of an atlas, proud to be a cartophile!. Thanks Geoff.

  • @WordNerd1971
    @WordNerd19713 күн бұрын

    Great interview. Joe is so interesting. I could listen to hours of you chatting together!

  • @martynbrailsford3943
    @martynbrailsford39433 күн бұрын

    Excellent Interview! Thanks Geoff & Joe for the plug! Martyn - editor of the "Quail" maps.

  • @JP_TaVeryMuch

    @JP_TaVeryMuch

    3 күн бұрын

    Perhaps you could ask Geoff to correct the omission of a link to your site in the description section. Usually fastidious to a fault, other links are listed but I looked for Quail to no avail.

  • @robertbutlin3708

    @robertbutlin3708

    3 күн бұрын

    I do enjoy an occasional bit of micro-gricing at the Quail level.

  • @joc6516
    @joc65163 күн бұрын

    Fantastic interview. I have all of the atlas regions, several from London, the Birmingham one and Liverpool/Manchester. My favourite is the Liverpool/Manchester one as it includes all the crazy old tram lines which made up the largest combined network in the UK. It's amazing to see what we lost up there. London also got rid of theirs, but at least they had the tube to fall back on. It's also sad to see how many railway lines existed compared to today. My hope is for a Leeds/Bradford/Sheffield one as well. That would be incredible, then a Glasgow/Edinburgh. These are easily the best rail maps of any cities in the world. Never seen anything close anywhere else. Joe Brown has done a magnificent job here.

  • @patbyers9662
    @patbyers96623 күн бұрын

    Making being a nerd, cool. Great interview. Thank you Geoff and Joe :)

  • @70goldie24
    @70goldie243 күн бұрын

    Can’t wait to ‘pink’ up my new Baker (hopefully at Christmas). Joe you are a star and your work is outstanding.

  • @rikufryderyk
    @rikufryderyk3 күн бұрын

    I visited the palestra building recently, how lucky you had the occasion to go quite high upstairs! Will listen to the 'podcast' this evening :)

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy.3 күн бұрын

    Geoff sure knows how to set up a good podcast/chatty interview episode. Also, he’s at TfL HQ so new Achievement Unlocked.

  • @marksaddler
    @marksaddler3 күн бұрын

    We need the unedited backwards tube stations as a series of shorts 👍

  • @a11oge
    @a11oge2 күн бұрын

    My, what fun you had. Thanks for sharing. 🖖

  • @DistrictDriver
    @DistrictDriver3 күн бұрын

    Ah, it's nice to see Joe again! He was one of my DMT's at Earl's Court!

  • @JP_TaVeryMuch
    @JP_TaVeryMuch3 күн бұрын

    Now there's a surprise. I had assumed that the author (?) of my favourite Atlas (after the Times one of the world) would be a man of a certain age, crackling with dusty experience, seeing how engaging and deftly detailed it is. Not a bit of it. Merci Monsieur and here's to future fantastic feats of fact furnishing. One more bit of sunshine blowing where the sun don't shine: Only once in my life have I had the thrill of having so many answers all at once to questions I've had poking around in my head for decades. Where does that go? type of thing. Thank you, thank you JB.

  • @GaryJohnWalker1
    @GaryJohnWalker13 күн бұрын

    I have a copy of the London Atlas - a wonderful browse from time to time. Well worth a real paper edition on the proverbial coffee table

  • @gustavomonteiro302
    @gustavomonteiro3023 күн бұрын

    Bought his book in my trip to London last march at the Transport Museum. Glad to see him on Geoff's channel.

  • @guillaumemaurice3503
    @guillaumemaurice35033 күн бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this Geoff; it was a very interesting and fascinating video. ❤

  • @RallyingSightsSounds
    @RallyingSightsSounds3 күн бұрын

    I've got the three latest books and the two posters (London and Birmingham) from Modern Railways mag, they're awesome. I look forward to the Yorkshire atlas that is supposedly coming next, but I'd love to see South Wales and the Scottish Central belt in future. Also, it'd be great if you could purchase them in poster format of different sizes, then I could get them without the fold from the magazines!

  • @PaulInPorirua
    @PaulInPorirua3 күн бұрын

    That door slam at 4:00 is every overheard conversation about trains I have ever had.

  • @elainemulberryrat5300
    @elainemulberryrat53003 күн бұрын

    Funny interview Geoff. Joe comes across as a really nice guy and the camera obviously loves him😅 nice informal chatty style info.

  • @BarneyLeith
    @BarneyLeith3 күн бұрын

    I love Joe's London atlas! And I have a rather ancient copy of the Baker atlas.

  • @GreatWesternTransportation
    @GreatWesternTransportation3 күн бұрын

    Excellent interview Geoff, keep it up

  • @user-lw5qj9hd4w
    @user-lw5qj9hd4w3 күн бұрын

    So I've bookmarked the crecy page to buy in August, thanks guys! 😊

  • @marksaddler
    @marksaddler3 күн бұрын

    Geoffs Rode Wireless mic is giving me the fear, I hope it holds on for the whole episode

  • @tardismole
    @tardismoleКүн бұрын

    I've not heard of that drawing programme. Would have been very useful back when I was writing my book in 2015. I hand drew my map in paint (really don't do that at home). Incidentally, that brought me to Geoff Marshall's channel and I've been here ever since.

  • @tremensdelirious
    @tremensdelirious3 күн бұрын

    A little inpatient when he was trying to tell you his history. Interruptions when he’s talking about tracing from books. I wanted to listen 😮

  • @tonyjones9442

    @tonyjones9442

    3 күн бұрын

    Yes. I thought too. It was an interesting insight and it got cut short. A bit rude of Geoff really.

  • @JP_TaVeryMuch

    @JP_TaVeryMuch

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@tonyjones9442 Hear hear. You could say that that's why we love him. Geoff's head is so full of information that he seemingly can't stop it spilling over; common sense, decency, respect and politesse be damned! No situation or subject, no seniority of interviewee, nor really enlightening answer to the question we've all been waiting for... can stop the tsunami. Your very point is a constant in the comment threads of his videos, albeit quietly bubbling under. The exact opposite of this unfortunate habit. Imagine what heights of UndergrounD understanding could be reached if our over enthusiastic host had a word with himself about it!

  • @Nooticus

    @Nooticus

    3 күн бұрын

    Chill out

  • @paulgodwin604
    @paulgodwin604Күн бұрын

    What a fun and informative video. You two make a good double act. Geoff, you asked Joe if people at work us3 his maps. For me, yes I did - when working for TfL I used it extensively to work out where to build new stabling sidings for LUL S Stock to facilitate removal from Lillie Bridge to enable the redevelopment of the site.

  • @andyt2510
    @andyt25103 күн бұрын

    I've got his West Midlands version of this atlas - got it as a Christmas present. It's a good read!

  • @andyt2510

    @andyt2510

    3 күн бұрын

    PS - those West Midlands Metro extensions are correct

  • @mrowl-the-dsm1304
    @mrowl-the-dsm13043 күн бұрын

    Really good this, very impressed and very much enjoyed it

  • @rayhenwood3833
    @rayhenwood38333 күн бұрын

    I invested in a copy Dec 23. Love the detail.

  • @Anonymoususer_2023
    @Anonymoususer_2023Күн бұрын

    I do like interviews like this one. Very good interview. Please do more of these if you could. 😁

  • @Bsavery17
    @Bsavery173 күн бұрын

    Two legends from the tube, thought I knew joe from somewhere

  • @apc108
    @apc108Күн бұрын

    What a nice guy. He's cool and un-flappable. I guess you have to be when taking on such enormous tasks. Lovely conversation.

  • @roundhouses
    @roundhouses3 күн бұрын

    I remember going into the school library and tracing out all the railways in the UK. That got me into travelling by train around the country once I left school and had an income. I have a friend who since retirement has been drawing up the track similar (but more diagamatic) to Joes book but for the whole of the country showing all tracks up to the mid 1960's including closed lines.

  • @JP_TaVeryMuch

    @JP_TaVeryMuch

    3 күн бұрын

    A friend..? Go on admit it, it's you isn't it‽ No matter, I rejoice in the knowledge that someone's taken on this task. Don't forget to save it at the end of each monk~like draughting and more power to thine elbow!

  • @roundhouses

    @roundhouses

    3 күн бұрын

    @@JP_TaVeryMuch I wish it was me but just dont have the time with all my other interests. He is a civil engineer so is very used to drawing.

  • @JP_TaVeryMuch

    @JP_TaVeryMuch

    3 күн бұрын

    @@roundhouses Well the very best of luck to him. What a project!

  • @user-mf2dj8rn9f
    @user-mf2dj8rn9f2 күн бұрын

    Great video and interview. I purchased the book before the video ended.

  • @iandraper8554
    @iandraper85543 күн бұрын

    In the 70's I picked up a fold out map of all the London Bus routes. Love atlases if you don't have one try and track one down

  • @michaelmiller641
    @michaelmiller6412 күн бұрын

    Fantastic! Thanks for that!

  • @teecefamilykent
    @teecefamilykent3 күн бұрын

    Brilliant video sir.

  • @johnstilljohn3181
    @johnstilljohn31813 күн бұрын

    Ooooh i just love maps...! Off to buy the book......

  • @JP_TaVeryMuch

    @JP_TaVeryMuch

    3 күн бұрын

    You won't be able to put it down!

  • @michaelvoyzey1099
    @michaelvoyzey10992 күн бұрын

    Hi Geoff, Great video as always I have just ordered a copy of his London Atlas really interesting insight as always

  • @Sim0nTrains
    @Sim0nTrains3 күн бұрын

    Great video Geoff, I do love Joe Brown's books. Do have a copy of London, Birmingham & West Midlands and Liverpool and Manchester books

  • @robinjones6999
    @robinjones69993 күн бұрын

    Brilliant, superb, wonderful _ ive got to order one

  • @RandomHuman4022
    @RandomHuman40223 күн бұрын

    I'll be working at the Palestra when I start my graduate role this September, I'm hoping to get a peak inside the control room!

  • @hughacollins1

    @hughacollins1

    3 күн бұрын

    peek (shome mishtake shurely - ed.)

  • @RandomHuman4022

    @RandomHuman4022

    3 күн бұрын

    @@hughacollins1 You're the 94th person to point this out. I imagine you'd go outside more, but you're too busy watching Geoff Marshall videos?

  • @deltic1964
    @deltic196417 сағат бұрын

    Great Interview Geoff

  • @joeymandrews
    @joeymandrews3 күн бұрын

    Anybody remember when Geoff and Joe both starred in episodes of 'The Tube' back in 2002?!?!

  • @joebrown7817

    @joebrown7817

    3 күн бұрын

    Trying to keep that quiet… I’ve even grown a beard as a disguise since 😉😂

  • @mrcogginsgarage7062

    @mrcogginsgarage7062

    3 күн бұрын

    Suits you sir.

  • @kaliou6645
    @kaliou66453 күн бұрын

    🩵🚂Excellent chat Geoff, I'm hoping for a Podcast Version Launch of your future interviews

  • @philipperry1304

    @philipperry1304

    3 күн бұрын

    That be so cool. I'm a pod nerd well 1😂 Rockonteurs

  • @philipperry1304
    @philipperry13043 күн бұрын

    Bloody brilliant cheers

  • @kerryschofield7744
    @kerryschofield7744Күн бұрын

    Decades ago, the HEX trains needed wheel turning. There was some ridiculously complicated move required to get it to a wheel lathe. Joe’s maps may have been needed!!

  • @beachman8106
    @beachman81069 сағат бұрын

    Very interesting video. Definitely prefer landscape format. Video time preference is 10 to 20 minutes. For new topics maybe investigate European rail networks. 👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️ from 🇦🇺

  • @alanclarke4646
    @alanclarke46462 күн бұрын

    Hi Geoff. The link to the Baker map seems to be broken.

  • @ChrisGBusby
    @ChrisGBusby3 күн бұрын

    Ooooh - all ordered :)

  • @garydoc
    @garydoc2 күн бұрын

    Hi Geoff. Fabulous interview and loads of very useful info soaked up! The video prompted me to look out a 1935 Philips’ Map of LNER, LMS, GW & SR lines in London and district. I have managed to copy this and wondered if it would be of use to use and/or Joe. Can’t send on here, do you have a link to send stuff to you? Cheers! Gary

  • @Xoron
    @Xoron3 күн бұрын

    Geoff's mic was holding on for dear life there.

  • @michellebell5092
    @michellebell50923 күн бұрын

    I’m sure I had the first edition. I’ve already added edition 6 onto my Waterstones app wish list

  • @ellenthalianellen7043
    @ellenthalianellen70432 күн бұрын

    ,Are you from London? As a big train enthusiast I'd love to meet you and maybe you know some nice spots in the city to spot trains? Best regards, Kimi

  • @ellenthalianellen7043

    @ellenthalianellen7043

    Күн бұрын

    hiiii

  • @EngineerLewis
    @EngineerLewis3 күн бұрын

    CorelDraw was my goto software for graphics for the same reason as Joe mentioned CMYK! 🤣

  • @JP_TaVeryMuch
    @JP_TaVeryMuch3 күн бұрын

    9:49 You said it! "... and then you start to get a bit obsessive." Perfect timing mein host! I was right on the point of boiling over in frustration at the last 2½ minutes of what would be on the cutting room floor IMHO. Especially as Joe had gone down the track of explaining why & what only to be 07:07 hauled away to another line by our host. Colouring in is not ever going to be good enough to trump Joe Brown's Atlas's _raison d'être_ in anyone's book is it‽ As I'm so charged that I've paused the video to rant away here, I really hope that he's able to take us down several secret sidings sans interruption in the rest of this gem.

  • @michaelholdsworth
    @michaelholdsworth14 сағат бұрын

    I'm waiting for the day someone designs an app to mark off tracks and rail lines. Save me re-tracing a map whenever it updates!

  • @LiveInConcertUK
    @LiveInConcertUK2 күн бұрын

    You should definitely interview Viola Snow the TikTok husky next. She’ll tell you which are the most (and least) dog-friendly tube lines and share her top tips for canine travellers. 🐕

  • @TomRyanElliott
    @TomRyanElliott3 күн бұрын

    Another fantastic discussion. It will be great to see if TFL continues doing things this month with it being the Disability Pride Month. Would love to capture a time lapse from up there with the tube going past

  • @tuppb002
    @tuppb0023 күн бұрын

    been on that roof. did work experience at tfl southwark office called palestra

  • @apuldram
    @apuldram3 күн бұрын

    Will the “Lancashire” book be put on-print? I have the Modern Railways Liverpool extract but that’s all ☹️

  • @joebrown7817

    @joebrown7817

    2 күн бұрын

    Yes after ‘Baker’ I think revising Liverpool & Manchester will be next, so hopefully 2025 publication

  • @nathanwinter863
    @nathanwinter863Күн бұрын

    Does anyone know if there is a online map or a book thats like a checklist book for london stations/uk stations?

  • @FotoCatch
    @FotoCatchКүн бұрын

    Hi Geoff! Do you know how to get by local bus from Stansted airport to Oxford, i got only Arrivals, but way make me three buses and 6 hours total for the road

  • @IndaloMan
    @IndaloMan3 күн бұрын

    You would think that after all these years Geoff would have worked out that if his mic is pointing upwards the sound quality is better.... 😂

  • @jgodfrey546
    @jgodfrey5463 күн бұрын

    Most interesting, Geoff! Amazon claims the Baker atlas link is incorrect, though...

  • @traincrew5746
    @traincrew57463 күн бұрын

    There's a mysterious door in Blackfriars Station that has a lot of rather lovely mapping and video experience behind it...

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy.3 күн бұрын

    2:49 Both of you are matching your freak 🔥

  • @mikewilliamson7246
    @mikewilliamson72463 күн бұрын

    Just to say as an admiring follower. Geoff does sometimes ALMOST overwhelm his interviewee, frequently chipping in with a gushing jokey comment that he has just thought of, whilst the interviewee is trying to explain something in answer to Geoff's previous question. Perhaps just calm down a touch?

  • @RaskoAndDiscoBeerReview
    @RaskoAndDiscoBeerReview3 күн бұрын

    Hey Geoff, I'm wondering if I've got a rare(ish) unofficially official Tfl map you don't have? There's a beer over in elavrireP as a clue for you to find out. Cheers #Disco

  • @beerdo231
    @beerdo2313 күн бұрын

    What happened to calling it Choo Choo Chat? I liked that name.

  • @LasseGreiner
    @LasseGreiner3 күн бұрын

    IMHO Corel draw is much better and not ridiculously priced as Adobe 😮

  • @Jimyjames73
    @Jimyjames733 күн бұрын

    Very interesting with great Views & new words - 'Microgrissing'??? 🤔😊🚂🚂🚂

  • @LifeSizeTeddyBear

    @LifeSizeTeddyBear

    3 күн бұрын

    I believe it is "microgricing" or "micro gricing". I found some usages of it on the RailUKForums website.

  • @Jimyjames73

    @Jimyjames73

    3 күн бұрын

    @@LifeSizeTeddyBear Oh ok - Thank you 🤔🚂🚂🚂

  • @eastlancsesteem
    @eastlancsesteem3 күн бұрын

    I wish Sodor Island was real.

  • @GoranNewsum
    @GoranNewsumКүн бұрын

    Railway magazine centrefolds 😉😅

  • @natts
    @natts3 күн бұрын

    Hey Geoff, the Amazon link in the description is broken?

  • @capturedlondon
    @capturedlondon2 күн бұрын

    Sorry to be ‘that guy’ but I guessed your location based purely on the building behind you and its angle ….my wife says I’m on the scale, but I don’t care 😂

  • @eddisstreet
    @eddisstreet3 күн бұрын

    If tfl HQ is in Southwark, what's at 55 Broadway these days?

  • @marcelwiszowaty1751

    @marcelwiszowaty1751

    3 күн бұрын

    I was going to say it is being refurbished for flats... but I just double-checked. That proposal was dropped and it's now being redeveloped as a hotel.

  • @joebrown7817

    @joebrown7817

    2 күн бұрын

    Yes it’s rightly so heavily listed inside & outside that it’s a challenge to convert to a new use

  • @OstrogothRome
    @OstrogothRome2 сағат бұрын

    Wow, micro-gricing, you can't get much geekier than that. Come on Joe, how about an atlas of every bus stop that has ever existed, or maybe a new book "Walking Britain's Disused Bus Routes". Oh and what about plotting every phone box that ever existed - along with its model and type, K2, K3 etc etc, and monthly usage...... You could be busy for the next 50 years here.

  • @howardkey1639
    @howardkey16393 күн бұрын

    Ward Leroc 😊

  • @thomasedwards5700
    @thomasedwards57003 күн бұрын

    I can see Alll The Tracks on its way!😂

  • @joethebrowser2743
    @joethebrowser27433 күн бұрын

    1👍🏻🇬🇧👀...

  • @Nooticus
    @Nooticus3 күн бұрын

    INTERVIEW CHAT?!? you mean choo-choo-chat?! :(

  • @wittenbergdave

    @wittenbergdave

    Күн бұрын

    Choo Choo Chat Forever!

  • @eddisstreet
    @eddisstreet3 күн бұрын

    Krap Not Pu

  • @davidioanhedges
    @davidioanhedges3 күн бұрын

    Welcome to Central London .... where Aircraft happen ...

  • @nitehawk86
    @nitehawk863 күн бұрын

    Lol the video is 29:59

  • @Keithbarber
    @Keithbarber3 күн бұрын

    🏆🥇 erm...... no actually 😂