Jinjer - perenial live 2019 or who is gonna be the one live are a must. It's always interesting to see what a vocal coach has to say, keep em coming.

“What is going on here musically?” This, to me, is what Jinjer is all about. They’re a band for music nerds. Tatiana’s growls get a lot of attention, and rightfully so, but the stuff that’s going on underneath is crazy. They’re each phenomenally skilled at their instrument, and they’re constantly playing with time signatures, phrase length, dissonance/resolution, genre fusion, and so on. The more you know about how music works, the more there is in every song that’s cool and different and worth noticing. It’s similar to what I love about Voiceplay (which is how I found your channel a few months ago). Also, the comments about her using the shape of the tunnel - that’s how she creates pitch. The false folds are unpitched, so they only make one sound. She changes the shape of her resonant spaces to make it come out higher or lower, almost like how a trombone works. If she needs a higher pitch, she makes things narrow, for lower pitches, she opens things up, including dropping her jaw to make more space in her mouth. If you do more Jinjer, it would be cool to try to catch how mouth shape and jaw position and such correlate to the pitch of her growl.

@mikedanger6323

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Exactly... My first reaction to Pisces was less about Tati, as I've heard women growling before (obviously not to the same level of skill), and more about the band and the composition.

@mattr7994

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@@mikedanger6323 Yeah, Pisces is a cool song to surprise people who aren’t expecting the growls, but the things that stick with me in that song are the 7/8 time in the verses, the cool unison guitar/bass runs in the bridge (that’s one of my favorite bass lines ever), and the belted section at the end. Also, the way they make such different feels work together and feel like a cohesive song. Everything I’ve heard by them has stuff that stands out to me like that.

@mikedanger6323

Жыл бұрын

Exactly... Well said...

@gedece

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@@mattr7994 And also, what most people miss is how Tatiana synchronizes her run of the word underworld with that bass line, making for an astounding sonority.

@projectsix1984

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@@mattr7994 I assume you're a Tool fan if you're into weird time signatures

To be thoroughly gobsmacked for a live performance you next need to react to “JINJER - Perennial (Live at Wacken Open Air 2019)”

One of my favorite things in your videos, is when you break it down and sing it. You cannot help yourself. The great part is how good you are it.... Take care and ROCK ON!!!!

@JenniferGlatzhofer

Жыл бұрын

🤘🏼🤘🏼 thank you!

What is very cool to me is how Tatiana has won so many of you guys (content creators) over. You are not the first that have said something to effect of "not knowing you needed her in your life" But over and over again she seems to hook you guys. Not exactly sure what that means (if it means anything at al) I have witnessed other harsh vocalists covered on channels however few ever get past one video. Jinjer always gets at least a second look. Love the reaction/review.

@JenniferGlatzhofer

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Indeed! Thank you 😊

@jayhegener3028

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I’ve noticed that about reaction coaches too. People just LOVE the band but especially that demonic little pixie. Personally, it was the same for me. HATED growling until I stumbled upon Pisces. I’m still fairly "meh" about it. Unless, of course, it’s Tati. 😉

@mattr7994

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It seems like a lot of them end up really liking Spiritbox, too. I’d bet it has to do with both bands being seriously musically interesting even without the vocals. A lot of bands with harsh vocals are fairly straightforward metal, but Jinjer and Spiritbox are both super creative from a music theory standpoint as well. They’re the whole package and not just a crazy voice.

@jayhegener3028

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@@mattr7994 You could be onto something there…

@cooltechnician

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@@mattr7994 Jinjer and Spiritbox are my favorite bands,, both in my number one spot,, they are so good

9:07 - In that part she's "emulating" jamaican Reggae singers. Reggae was one of her musical influences growing up, she's a big Bob Marley fan and when she joined Jinjer she had big, long dreads. 🙂 17:35 - Her relative stillness is easy to explain: the mic was in a stand and she was recording in an improvised vocal booth (basically just a black cloth hanging from somewhere in her then boyfriend's, now husband's, house in LA). One other vocal coach who reacted to this one-take mentioned that posture is very important when doing harsh vocals, blah blah blah, but don't let it fool you, when you react to Perennial Live at Wacken 2019 (I'm pretty certain you will 😉) you'll see that she can do everything she did here (and more) in all sorts of positions and still sound amazing.

Ty. More Jinjer.

I think you've noticed it for a long time, the whole band is just world class > the time signatures, the lyrics, the harmonies, IMO everything!!!!!!!!!!!! I've been a musician myself for decades and have been interested in music since I was 11 years old, but a few years ago when I first heard Jinjer... I thought and felt > this band is something unique!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! many thanx for your professional reaction on a great band. lovely greetings from germany

PLEASE keep doing Jinjer videos! I'm loving your channel and you've only just begun hearing what this amazing band can do! I would recommend "Perinneal" live at Wacken Open Air to see a true live performance and also "Teacher Teacher" official music video next. I would LOVE to see you do some double features too (watching the official music video first, then the live version. "Pit of consciousness" and "On the Top" are both great songs for that! The official videos for both and then Live in Kiev for both. You will love all of these suggestions, I promise!

Time signature is pretty stable throughout though accents are played with :)

MORE JINJER!!!

If you're enjoying Jinjer you should definitely check the live one take performance of "Circle with me" by Spiritbox, you won't be disappointed.

Much better! You're getting used to Tatiana. You might try "Perennial" (Live at Wacken) as your next Jinjer reaction.

Great reaction and analysis! It's awesome to see your increasing appreciation for the ways in which (safely produced) harsh vocals can be used for storytelling. One thing I think vocalists like Tatiana, Floor, and other great metal vocalists today share with musical theatre is the use of a wide variety of tone qualities and dynamics for storytelling purposes. Another musician who makes excellent use of a variety of clean and harsh vocals for storytelling that you might enjoy reacting to and analyzing could be Devin Townsend. I'd start with his performance of Kingdom for EMGtv. I'll also throw in a request for you to check out Unleash the Archers, and their beast of a lead vocalist Brittney Slayes. She's a mind blowing alto power belter with insane range and stamina. I'd start with Awakening if you're interested in checking them out.

@Babewatcherbob

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Devin is out of control. %100 support this suggestion. Kingdom is so dang good. Edit: Brittany Slayes is also a must!

@RolandTumble23

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UtA: yes, Yes YES!!

Enjoyed your reaction/analysis. I would recommend reacting Perennial live at Wacken 2019. It could be considered a bit heavier than this video, but Tati shows off her chops as it is the last song of the set…and Tati does not stand still live. More Jinjer please and thank you! 🍻🤘

Another great reaction! Hope you decide to do at least one more song with Jinjer and the next one should really be "Perennial (live at wacken open air 2019)" To see how she actually sounds live. It's also important to take in consideration that it's the last song of an entire set. Love your energy! Looking forward to more reaction content ❤️

Frog Leap Studios - Carry On My Wayward Son (metal cover). Leo opens his mouth so wide it becomes a rectangle, and Truls sounds like the lead singer from Kansas.

Loving how you're entering this world little by little. Whereas I'm not a consumer of this type of music, I do enjoy the occasional metal, especially when the vocalist is so very talented as Tatiana. Great video once more.

Great reaction Jen! Your Pisces reaction was the reason I subscribed. Jinjer makes metalheads out of non metal listeners. The guys are fantastic musicians and Tati is absolutely one of our best vocalists. Please do "Perennial" live at Wacken next to hear her live. Also she does an interview with Loudwire called "How I learned to scream" that's a great watch too.

@JenniferGlatzhofer

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Ooh thank you!

I love how she moves as she sings....!!!! As always your reactions are wonderful & insightful.. Thank you!!!

Great reaction. It makes me so happy how many people love this band, even if they are not metal fans.

i see you turning!!! haha. I was the same..never was into metal/growling or even the "sound", but Jinjer is just SO damn talented that it transcends and hits me. DEFINITELY watch "Perennial Live at Wacken" as well..they are so talented, and yet, Tati still shines brightest

Jen, In your intro you said you are a performer. Well so is Tatiana.!!!! Boo-ya!!! I really enjoy this group! I also watched her speaking to Elizabeth of the Charismatic Voice. I wanted to hear her speaking voice. I did the same thing for the same reason when I watched her Stage makeup tutorial. The lady has range!! So impressive!!! I love your channel, Thank YOU!

lovely reaction as always )

If you like watching vocal folds do their thing the Charismatic Voice scopes Will Ramos while he does harsh vocals and it's super super cool

I'm really enjoying the new metal head Jen!

@JenniferGlatzhofer

Жыл бұрын

Hah thanks!

one thing ive noticed with Tati especially in this video is that her positioning to the microphone varies very little even though there is body movement. Im looking forward to seeing Jinjer live next February ;)

@nothingTVatYT

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Given how much energy she has on the stage I assume she has to hold back when the microphone is mounted. I feel like she loves running around the stage and perform. I might be wrong but I think this is very natural to her so keeping an optimal distance to a fixed mic may feel so different to a live show on stage.

@andycross5801

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@@nothingTVatYT ill have a good idea of that after february 23 after watching them live :)

Quality live show is Perennial at Wacken as others mentioned, best song in my opinion is Teacher, Teacher and one you may actually like is called Beggars Dance, its more jazzy.

Hi there Jen, We are in for a treat in this one. There is a cat in the beginning. meow!! LOVE your channel, thanks lady................

I will be here for the duration. Thank you Jen... As always thank you for this breakdown. You are wonderful!!!!!

Hi Jen, I’m so glad you decided to try reacting to Jinjer again. I love this song and Tatiana does a great job with the vocals (better than on the recorded version, IMO), but if you decide to listen to one more Jinjer song, I would highly recommend the song Wallflower, which has a totally different groove then this song and Tatiana’s vocals are beautiful (with only about 20% harsh vocals). Plus, the video is very cool.

Im enjoying your reaction. Love the reaction to the time signatures too😊

This lady is such a monster of a performer. She just rips you open and ROCKS your brains out!!! What a way to go.!!! Thank you for this..............

I agree definitely listen to perennial live. The song that got me to fall in love with this band is Just Another which came out 2016 😊

She sounds just as great live. The whole band is absolutely super talented. Eugene is a monster on bass.

A bit of backstory that I don't remember how much she talked about in that interview, she's always loved singing and had a few months of lessons as a kid but didn't get serious about it until she was 15 in roughly 2002 or so. Between then and joining Jinjer in 2010 she'd sung cleans in 7 bands (Jinjer was #8) and added growls in the last of those called Prophecy starting in about 2008. After Jinjer she also did a side project with a latin band whose name is usually romanized Kodry (if you look up "vidcerts tatiana nirvana" you'll find 22 minutes of Tati singing latin-infused Nirvana with them which is just awesome). All of that experience until 2012 when they got their first indie label was amateur and local with lots of performances at parties and local clubs so at this point she's been performing for more of her life than not. Without much formal training, she's been growing a lot during that time and the technical sophistication of especially her cleans has grown a lot over that time.

I mean this with the utmost respect to Tattiana,her dark parts seems like she is devouring the air whilst simultaneously projecting it out,I've no vocalist talent like yourself,I like what I like,great reaction from you and the pauses are what music n your reactions great,,, respect fae Scotland x

Jen, Boo-ya!!!! This girl is a BAD-ASS!!!! And I think she is as cute as a button.......... She has so many favors in her singing!!!!! I love your channel......

Booya! Great analysis, as always, pure joy to see it and hear it! And I hope you know it is one take audio/video. Nice to see you enjoy this performance :) @13:29 @14:00 Great moment of Tetiana: @12:02 Anyway... Let's go to another subject! Great output here @3:40 - loving it! ❤ And I see that your lipstick matches your earrings and headphones 😀 Loving the colour of your fingernails 😀@10:30 @12:32 Loving the colour and shine of your eyes, they match my soul ❤ Stop. Can't say more 😊 Keep reacting please, and keep singing. Cheers!

@JenniferGlatzhofer

Жыл бұрын

Ah thank you!!

One of the many things I love about jinjer is their ability to make simple time signatures sound crazy complicated lol This is mostly 4/4 and 3/4, but the changes are clever as hell and hard to find in all that texture. With 4 people, mind you! If you want to hear them pop into a 7/8 jazz section like it's nothing, check out Home Back 👌

Standing still was probably very difficult for Tati since dancing and moving around a lot on stage is where she´s in her elements and it´s just wonderful to witness. Absolutely amazing live band!!

Excellent and very interesting video. Eagerly awaiting a video of you doing some harsh vocal growls! 😵‍💫😂

@JenniferGlatzhofer

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Haha thanks!

Girl, You have excellent pitch...!!!!! Take care.. And rock ON.......

Jinjer really has carved a rather unique segment for themselves in the modern music scene. You noted a few times the time signature and they really like the changes as rhythmically it keeps you guessing as to what is next. Then Tatiana unleashes her unique style on top of that and you realize this band is one of those that you just have to listen to multiple times before you really get the way the composition flows and how you can follow it. Unique riffs (guitar AND bass) coupled with Vlad laying down just outright odd timings but keeping everything cohesive and closed out with Tatiana shocking you with 3 different (guttural, fry, and clean) vocal flavors. Jinjer doing Jinjer things. Perennial live at Whacken next please - this song closes out their set so you get to see them all a bit winded and just continue to kill it. 🤘

Hey Jen, great reaction! I’m thrilled you’re really getting into the harsh vocals :) Tati’s different mouth shapes are to create different resonance chambers to pitch her growls. And as for the time signatures… multiple crazy beats are a signatory of progressive rock and metal. Tatiana counts reggae and jazz as heavy influences. She also adores Gwen Stefani, which really shows in some of her music video outfits. You’ve gotta check out an actual live performance though! Seeing the band perform for a crowd is a whole new dimension.

Only Tatiana can make the word "Deficiency" sound sexy. Very good analysis. I agree with a number of your commentators "Perennial" live at Wacken would would be an excellent next reaction. (Subbed)

Methinks the word ye are searching is projection. Tatiana's ability to project with such clarity and power is something to be in awe over. The other word methinks yer looking for is that she's, while actively participating in the performance, is totally relaxed with no signs of tensions in both her voice and body.

To hear other female screamers. The Agonist - In Vertigo Arch Enemy - Nemesis (live from Tokyo) Nightwish - Yours is an Empty Hope

Love this video Tatiana is so captivating. Please react to Perennial live at Wacken and Teacher Teacher official video. Maybe you already do this but I suggest having a copy of Jinjer's lyrics to review before, your reactions. The songs are even better once you understand the meaning.

Nice one Jen! Now this is absolutely the right video for a vocal coach to react to, but just for your own fun, go and watch the official music video for this track, where Tati's having WAAAY too much fun as a witch...😈🤣

@JenniferGlatzhofer

Жыл бұрын

Ooh love it hahah! Shall do 😁

During that growl her entire throat is completely relaxed. Ehich you can see very well in this video. 5:48

The lyrics are very important to Tatiana, she wants/needs you to be able to understand them, even is the distorted voice parts, so she works very hard at it. Tatiana is a huge Gwen Stefani fan and it is not uncommon to see her wearing a Tragic Kingdom t-shirt (an album by No Doubt which is Gwen's band), and when you listen you can hear that influence. The Charismatic voice has done a video where they stuck a camera down the throat of Will Ramos, the singer for Lorna Shore, to see what goes on when he sings distorted, it is really worth watching. That said his ability with distorted voice is almost unequalled and is shocking to even people who are used to the use of distorted voice. When (if) you are ready he has several excellent One Take Performances (my recommendation is his cover of Sleep Token - Hypnosis so you can hear him sing clean before you experience the total distortion he is capable of) which are very similar to this one by Tatiana (the camera angle is probably a bit better).

Tatiana is the greatest front lady for any band,the guys obviously are highly talented musicians 🌹🌹

“Perennial” (live at Wacken) and “Pit of consciousness” (live in Kiev) are some of their best live performances.

You've stumbled on the secret... it's actually the cat making those sounds!

"First of all, there was a CAT". Best vocal coach comment on this video ever XD

Golden tip when listening to and analyzing Jinjer: if you're lost in the time signatures, focus on the bass, not on the drummer.

The reggae and then the black metal combo in some ways reminds me of Bad Brains

If anyone wants to know how she makes that low growling sound watch the charismatic voice , Elizabeth interviewed her on her channel

Also, I think you would like Teacher, Teacher by Jinjer.

@JenniferGlatzhofer

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion!

I will call you Jen, You should not be afraid. You may like the cat....???? It is a good song & video...... There is a lot going on in ALL of Jinjers music.. This lady is showing off her skill set... I think she touches her headphones to keep them from blowing off. Because she is getting ready to do her thing..... I am still amazed that she can do this and not hurt herself. Great vocal range & skill...

You're going to love Teacher, Teacher! and I Speak Astronomy.. her higher register hits.. especially I Speak Astronomy

Has anyone pointed this adorable person towards Spiritbox yet? I would love to see Jen break down Courtney's vocals.

Gonna throw a curve at you... My favorite groups are Jinjer, Spiritbox and a family band called Liliac. I challenge you to react to Liliac and their singer Melody. They got millions of views with their Metallica covers. They have a good selection of originals and I would check them out live - Vertigo live is a great place to start. A cover of Dio's The Last in Line is amazing. For some insane vocals, try "Not Afraid". Watching them do "Enter Sandman" when they ranged from 11 to 19 years is quite amazing. Until you see it, you won't understand the shock value of the talent of the band and Melody's voice as a young teen. First day seeing your videos - I'm hooked on your takes and I love your facial expressions - especially when you react to Jinjer! Keep it going!

Please watch Perennial live at Wacken, last song of their set which truly shows off her talent to maintain her singing voice.

I don't think that comparing to theater is a misstep at all, I think of vocalists like Tatiana who can do it all as alike to voice actors for animated or video game characters who can really transform their voices. I think of the different vocal styles as different characters in a song sometimes, that was partially how I was able to learn to appreciate harsh vocals at first (by making that comparison in my head). most of the song is in 4/4 btw, the drummer rarely plays on the beats you expect

Will Ramos's throat cam video is seriously a must react lol throat science (can't remember what the actual field ia called lol) has had a major breakthrough with Will's examination.

its only four of them is amazing as well.

This was an excellent reaction and analysis, Jen. Tatiana is an superb all round vocalist, please may I suggest that you do a reaction to, 'Perennial' live at Wacken open air festival from 2019 by them, you won't be disappointed, I promise you. I've subscribed too.

@JenniferGlatzhofer

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊

Hi Jennifer hope you are having an great and awesome weekend ❤

Thanks for the reaction. You should check out some live performances of them too :)

👏👏👏 next "Perennial" (Wacken) please!! 😘💜💕

You have a great metal face. Lol. Awesome reaction.

you need to check out their masterpiece vortex , vocally and musically it is extraordinary .

@6:30 Have you seen The Charismatic Voice's video, when she had a camera put down Will Ramo's throat (singer for the deathcore band Lorna Shore) while he does gutterals and fry screams?

Shooketh!

Jen, Tatiana is a rock & roll goddess. She rules, so very good. Plus she is easy on the eye. She has so many styles and a great vocal range. She owns the stage, it is hers! At 4:something she holds her headphones on, to keep them from blowing off of her head.? This song does go reggae at times... Such vocal power and projection I would so love to see them in concert. Reaching for notes, no need for her because those notes are just there. Yes she is still and calm. Epic...

You NEED to react to Tool a progressive metal band that’s known for having odd time signatures in their songs with many of their songs being longer than most songs. Tool has a huge fan base so it will definitely get you the views when you react to Tool. Tool songs are so incredible that fans often can’t pick a single favorite song from the band. Songs to start with are 46&2 (think chromosomes) The Pot, Lateralus (Fibonacci sequence based song) Schism, Sober live performance, Pneuma, The Grudge. I would avoid official videos except for Sober live and Pneuma drum cam video as the official videos for other songs can distract you from the complexity of the music. Tool is a band of true musicians and their skill is incredible and unparalleled. For Lareralus I do recommend a lyric video.

Perennial (live at wacken 2019) needs to be next!!

Please check "Home back", it's about war in their country. It's full of emotion.

I love how much you are expanding (I’ve been following you since Dimash). I hope someday you would delve into the more vocal-oriented KPop groups…I’d love to hear your thoughts.

They are from Donetsk.

She doesn't get enough respect for her compositional skills- the lads create their often very complex, angular, brain-engaging-with-uncommon-timings-&-heavy-syncopation music (which I adore btw).... then a final demo is handed to Tatiana, who has to figure out, from scratch, melodic vocal lines which can flow over the usually very cerebral score from the boys. She invariably comes up with very *human* ,emotional, clean passages which lend balancing heart to the lads' music which is quite heady.... & obviously when things require intensity, we all know she does the extreme stuff better than anyone else. Also, the fact that she writes cleverly for the extreme passages- never trying to fit too many syllables in any measure, which allows you to make out most of what she's saying without having to immediately reach for a lyric sheet. I'd very much enjoy seeing what you make of their thru-composed song "Vortex" from the most recent album sometime, if you can handle a no verses, no choruses, kinda thang?! Go on, you know you wanna!! ;)

Brilliant spoof - I almost believed.

Good analysis. I watched her interview on The Charismatic Voice also. Tetiana seems to be more of a fan of pop music, and Reggae. It’s the other band members who seem to be into the metal core scene with the time signatures and progressive nature of their music. She seems a little bit frustrated with the proggy nature of their music, but that’s why I like it!

I wondered how you would react to this one!

Check out how to sing subharmonics for an explanation of how the harsh vocals are produced in a healthy way, this technique uses much of the same technique if it's done healthily.

You definitely should react to teacher teacher by jinjer you'll love it

She is ABSOLUTELY amazing, her and her skills are breathtaking. I would love to see you react to a song by another female lead metal band, “spiritbox”. More specifically the lead singer doing a one take vocal performance of their song “circle with me”. It’s just as impressive and Jinjer and Tatiana.

To appreciate more of tatianas talent or jinjer in general. Try to react on tatianas first live recording to the band. The song is called WALTZ(live beastiarium) and DESTROY(live beastiarium).

Would definitely love to see your reaction to Will Ramos’ one take vocal play throughs. Super talented vocalist in deathcore. His laryngoscopy on the Charismatic Voice’s channel was really interesting.

You have to check out Tool Sober Live (Pro Shot). It is an amazing display of terrible posture by a singer while still achieving incredible sound and becoming the embodiment of the lyrics. You will not be disappointed.

Tati got her start in a ska band so this is up her alley

better listen "Teacher Teacher" that's a bangger 🔥

Priceless entertainment watching your face :)

Perennial live wacken 2019

Again, one of the best reaction/analysis versions of this song. Also, a master class in video editing, other channels should take notes, no ummms, no ahhhhhs, no dead air, just what we want & need to hear. If you watch enough of Jinjer's interviews, you learn that the music is written separately by the musicians in the band, & then is handed off to Tatiana, who interprets the music & writes the lyrics in her 3rd language of English, behind Russian & Ukrainian?!? The Band was forced to flee their home town in the Donbas Region of the Ukraine, when the Russians invaded that area & the Crimea, before the more current invasion. This inspired the song Home Back. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YqiTq8GgmNC-ebQ.html Like many of their official music videos, which boarder on musical theatre, this one is a particularly poignant, in light of the current #UkraineConflict. I recommend downloading the lyrics ahead of time. I still can't get through watching this video without crying. Tatiana also shows yet another somewhat surprisingly sweet & jazzy side of her vocal repertoire.

@j.f.fisher5318

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Home Back is incredibly powerful and even before the invasion I felt it was perhaps their most important song, as we don't often get to see art by ordinary people caught in a war. Usually if we get an authentic work from those who were there it is soldiers' stories which are important in theor own way but the reality of every war's devastating impact on the ordinary citizens caught in it often gets missed.

@JenniferGlatzhofer

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Thank you!!!! Means a lot 😁

@crhu319

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Yes the situation in Donbas is a tragedy the world let fester for eight years. The Minsk Accords should have been the end of it. As late as March of this year it was possible to get to that state. No more. Now it's like India where a 22-25% minority will be carving off because of irreconcilable conflict. Didn't have to happen. But it did. I just hope the ceasefire is soon.

Tatiana is channeling Gwen Stefani!

The music video to this is an interesting watch, others I liked I speak astronomy and teacher teacher.

Actually, this is a rare Jinjer track which is completely in 4 time, it's just that the syncopation within the 4/4 structure is all over the shop. Great reaction, but can you try to get rid of those micro-glitches in the audio playback of the video.